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Sissy, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

You will get two schools of thought on what happens to us at the death of our body of flesh.

I DON'T BELIEVE in a general rapture of the church; I BELIEVE we are gathered ONE BY ONE.

Isaiah 27:12

Matthew 24:40

I BELIEVE each believer is given HIS REWARD at the death of our body of flesh.

Our REWARD is ETERNAL LIFE and a BODY LIKE CHRIST. We become the IMAGE of Christ.

Colossians 1:15

Colossians 3:10

Romans 8:29

Every believer will receive the SAME REWARD; but different GLORIES.

Matthew 20:1-16

Romans 2:11

1 Corinthians 15:41

I BELIEVE when we leave our bodies of flesh we begin ruling and judging with Christ in the Kingdom of God.

Revelation 20:4

Obadiah 1:21

GBU

Sissy,

There will be two separate future resurrections, the first one will be for believers, which will will take place when Christ comes for His church at the rapture ( 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17). The second resurrection will happen after the thousand year reign of Christ. No believers will be part of the second resurrection.

Here is what happens when a believer dies. First of all, the word death literally means separation. At the point of death, the physical body dies and goes into the grave and awaits the first resurrection (Rapture). But at the point of physical death, the soul/spirit separates from the body and goes to be with the Lord. This is for believers. For the non-believer, their soul goes to a temporary place and awaits the second resurrection.

But for the believer, we go to be with the Lord. When Christ comes to gather His church, we will come back with Him, unless of course we are still alive on this earth when He comes.

But for those who have died, they go to be with the Lord, they will come back with Him, and their bodies will be raised from the grave. And when the bodies are brought out of the grave, and this is according to 1 Corinthians 15:50-54, when the Lord calls those out of the grave, the body comes up, and in the twinkling of an eye, the body is changed into a spiritual body for that spirit to inhabit forever.

As far as judgement goes, every person will stand before God. But for the believer, our judgement is not for salvation because Christ already paid for that. Our judgement will be to determine our reward.

For the non-believers, they await the second resurrection, they will be judged as non-believers, those who have rejected Jesus Christ, and they will be cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:6 says, "Blessed and holy is he that has part in the first resurrection: (Believers) on such the second death has no power. There are two deaths for the non-believer. There's physical death, and there's spiritual death.

Countless thousands of died from this- 7000 on the low end. Check the OpenVAERS dot com stats which come from the CDC. They reported 7000 dead from the covid vaccine. That's more than double the deaths from 9/11 attacks, yet you never hear this on the lying media. They say it's "safe", but obviously if you die it's not safe- think of the thousands of grieving families. They even try to manipulate people into taking it by bribing them with free food, drinks, prizes, games, while failing to disclose that you may die or have blood clots, infertility, and who knows what other problems in the future. I can't believe that a free society forced everyone to become lab rats for an unapproved non-FDA approved experiment- which thousands are dying from. But since VAERS is voluntary for nurses and staff to use for reporting, the 7000 dead is underestimated. It could be 10x that amount! And no one cares! PC correctness is more important than people staying alive? Meanwhile the covid deaths have been grossly exaggerated- only 6% or less of the CDC reported figures are actually covid deaths- which says so on CDCs own website, and masks themselves have caused mass pneumonia deaths, besides the experimental injection. It's shocking how the media covers this up and putting a political false religion above people's lives.

2 Thessalonians 2:11-13

The only explanation for this irrational chaotic lying behavior causing mass death is that people are under satan's grip and have become entranced by a delusion. We are closer to end times than ever. Get right with God today.

And 8 times more likely to catch the Delta mutant variant (if u take the JAB)

Hello, you wrote: " You've been given clews, but still hold America a queen, head and shoulders above the rest." But if you read Mishael's comment, what you wrote doesn't sound true. Nothing suggests she holds America up- so I'm not sure where that assumption comes from.

I think the USA is failing in front of our eyes. A delusion has fallen over people where it prefers lies over truth. It's feelings based (from misinterpreting things) over facts based. Rampant immorality: they attempt to justify sodomy by using words like 'pride'. They attempt to justify mass murder of babies by the word 'choice'. They are violating the constitution of human rights by the word 'hate'- allowing them to censor, shut down any political opponents or freedom of thought. They demonized the police and make false assumptions about situations so they can put police in prison and let violent terrorists roam the city streets. Illegal aliens who commit crimes sneaking in are rewarded with money and free room and board while the citizens themselves are in poverty and homeless. The corrupt leaders of the US don't even like the country and want to give everything away (which steals from the citizens)- but they give mostly to China, and now to Russia (pipeline), and to millions illegals. Really sickening seeing this unfold.

But I'm not sure its' Babylon, which is a city. Rev. 21:11-22:5 and I'm not sure its Gog or Magog: Revelation 20:8-9. It's very possible that the USA will basically collapse and not even be on the map before the end times. It's likely that China will take it over or something.

"a little season" is the same amount of time given in two distinct events: Revelation 6:11 & Revelation 20:3. From Revelation 6:11 we discover that "a little season" is the time between the fifth seal and the seventh trumpet. This indicates that the devil in Revelation 20:3 has the same amount of time being loosed in Rev 6:11.

Revelation 6:11And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as theywere, should be fulfilled.

Revelation 20:3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Chris,

You were doing fine until you started defending what God does when God needs no defense.

Everything that exists only does so because of God.

When the three evil spirits are deposed of, evil will be history, replaced by the comfort we've strived for our entire existence.

( Revelation 20:10) And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Jesus said 'Fear not, for they can only kill your flesh and not your Soul.

But Fear the One who can kill both'...

He is saying,God,the creator of the soul is the One n only,who can Extinguish it...

This is 'The Fear of the Lord', Knowing/understanding,God can do Whatever he wants with Any person at Anytime.

He does this,because he owns us n everything.

Its the same thing as a person builds a custom car.the owner of the car can do whatever he wants with it,paint it any color,wheels engine etc.he can park it,sell it or scrap it

Because the title is in his name

OSEAS,

You didn't answer my questions. You said I was "wrong" about the 2 witnesses, but not why. You had to Google it, I recognized the script you copied. Therefore, I will answer the questions for you:

The 144K are the church, they are Christ's bride. The 2 witnesses, the two candlesticks & two olive trees, the woman from Revelation 12, are all symbolism, metaphors, and allegory describing the 144K. The 2 witnesses and the 144K have the same mission, within the same time frame. You still can't make the connection?

( Psalms 52:8) But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever.

A single nation was an olive tree. A nation divided became two olive trees, two houses, two witnesses.

Below are 5 scripture depictions of the 144K on route to or in heaven. After being called up to heaven, the firstfruits are gathered for their judgment. The 144K "witnesses" are judged and resurrected in the twinkling of an eye. Look how the Rev 7 & Rev 11 stories parallel each other.

( Revelation 11:12) And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

( Revelation 7:9) After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;



( Revelation 7:14)...These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Revelation 14:1-4

Revelation 20:4

Can it get any clearer? The 2 witnesses die, and no sooner do they appear in heaven as the coveted 144K. I have no idea where you stand, but, If you're going to dismiss my interpretation, the burden is on you to back it up with facts. Can you post your own ideas about the 2 witnesses for me to review?

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Hi Gaudencio. What you wrote, "We believed GOD is all knowing with infinite knowledge", is indeed the very Truth that all of life on Earth is hinged upon. Since He knows the beginning from the end, with Whom there is no beginning nor end, then He must see all of His creation (including mankind & his behaviour) in that complete perspective. So what we maybe ignorant of by asking, 'why did God allow this or that, or couldn't He have prevented something from happening', is immaterial when one already sees the complete picture. We could never see it, but God has & planned for it.

If God then created mankind to enjoy His Presence & live in a sin-free condition (as in Genesis chapters 1 & 2), it should be normal to expect God to engineer man's affairs in such a way to bring about the same sin-free, God-glorifying state which man had lost at the first (as in Revelation chapters 21 & 22). The fact that we sinned was not a surprise to God - just as the institution of the sacrificial system & finally sending His ultimate Sacrifice for mankind, was no sudden last-minute decision. God knows, that if His Love is so great & is unfathomable by us, then it has never been in His Mind to annihilate us, but to preserve us to an holy, eternal life in His Presence. What we lost to the Devil, we have now gained in Christ Jesus.

Yet, the mystery of the Gospel still has to go out, that lost, erring souls might be saved & be made new by God's Spirit. For if they still reject God's Provision & spurn His Love to be restored to a perfect state (fully at that last day), then only God's judgement & rejection awaits them ( Revelation 20:15). So why were Adam & Eve tested? That they might know that after they had disobeyed God, that there is still a God of Love in Heaven Who has the capacity to continue to love & provide for them. And that Love, as all love, requires a response to be made complete.

In reply to Glenn Gerun on Luke 5:11

With as much Love and grace of the Lord Jesus Christ that is with in me; I ask that you look into Luke 16: 22- 24. Not all will be with Christ forevermore. 2 Peter 3:9 tells us of God's desire for all, but not all will be with Christ forevermore.

May the Lord bless you in your search of God's righteousness and His wisdom not our own. 2 Peter 1:20

Revelation 20:11-15 depicts the great white throne of Christ Jesus. Not all will be with Christ forevermore.

God gave us these passages, as well as the one's you gave, to help us all to become "Christians or born again believers" in order that we are able to be with Him forevermore.

God's desire is that we be with Him forevermore as you brought forth in your discussion. But only through Scripture, His way. 1 Corinthians 15: 1- 4; Romans 10: 9, 10; 1 John 5:10-13

Pray that this discussion helps everyone on this Forum. God bless you. Love in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Greetings in Christ, Wesley Masterson

From everything you wrote in the first paragraph of your post, the most important is linked with the millennium itself, the other things although they are important too, however they are secondary.

One of the most important event to happen in the beginning of the millennium is to cast down Satan from this heavenly environment in Christ (where we still are in in the present time) to the earth. Immediately thereafter, cast him into the bottomless pit that he should deceive the nations no more - Revelation 20:v.1-3.

I think that you and all here know that the Word of GOD reveals that on God's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years ( Psalm 90:4; II Pet.3:8) so MANKIND would go through six God Days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).

You and all here know that GOD sent JESUS in the TURN of the fourth Day to the fifth Day, or around 4,000 years after Adam. GOD was still working, as JESUS said: John 5:v.17 - My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. And from JESUS until the current time passad more two days or two thousand years, if we call the Christian calendar we would say that have passad 2,021 years. Therefore, from Adam until today already passad around 6,000 years.

That said, we must discern and understand that we are already living in the beginning of the seventh and last millennium, the millennium of Christ, or seventh and last Day, the LORD's Day. In other words, we are living in the beginning of the first century of the seventh and last millennium. Honestly, in my vision, we are in the last decade of the Devil's world -2020 to 2030-, the week 70th of Daniel 9:v.27 (7 years) is within of this current decade, the times of the END arrived.

What I tell you I tell to all: Get ready

S. Spencer,

Lets establish a time frame for, before the millennium age, by the scriptures you referenced.

Revelation 16:16 -just before Christ's return Gog's army is gathered.

Joel 3:2 "I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat...."

Joel 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for (the day of the LORD is near) in the valley of decision.

Ezekiel 38:15 -day of the Lord attack on Israel.

Revelation 20:8 the post millennium battle. How is it that Gog was destroyed by Jesus at His coming, and only a thousand years later, Gog's numbers are as the sand of the sea? I suspect this is a metaphor of an allegory, wrapped in an enigma working here.

Psalm 83:2-8 David's prayer against Israel's oppressors. You have something here, great job. The mention of Edom (Russia/Esau) as the root cause gives merit to this last conflict reference.

Hi Wesley,

I errored when I said I believe the battle in Ezekiel is not the same in Revelation, I meant to say I believe the battle in Ezekiel is not the same in Revelation 20, ( after the Millennium). I believe the battle in Ezekiel is before the Millennium.

However I believe it's what you're saying also,

In Ezekiel it seems they comes from the North ( INTO ISRAEL ) to take spoil.

Ezekiel 38:15. And thou shalt come from "THY PLACE" out of the NORTH parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:

( Perhaps Russia and company.)

Also notice who's missing in Ezekiel. Israels. surrounding neighbors,

In Revelation they are gathered from the 4 corners of the earth to Armageddon.

Revelation 16:16. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

Revelation 20:8. And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in (THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH,) Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: THE NUMBER OF WHOM IS AS THE SAND OF THE SEA.

Joel 3:2. I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

Also notice the intent and the players involved here in

Psalms 83:2-8. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

They have said, Come, and LET US CUT THEM OFF FROM BEING A NATION; THAT THE NAME OF ISRAEL MAY BE NO MORE in remembrance.

For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

The tabernacles of EDOM, and the ISHMAEL IT'S; of MOAB, and the HAGARENES;

GEBAL, and AMMON, and AMALEK; the PHILISTINES with the inhabitants of TYRE;

ASSUR also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

God bless.

Wesley.

You said the Millennium is a time of cleansing and you referenced

Ezekiel 39:12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land."

Here in Ezekiel is a clean up after Gog and Magog, It's 7 months, the Millennium will be 1000 years. It won't take neither for the Lord to cleanse the earth,

He created the heavens and Earth and all that was created in 6 days,

I believe the battle mentioned in Ezekiel and the battle in Revelation is two separate events because of location and the players involved.

Even so the Millennium wouldn't be a period of cleansing when the battle would be afterwards when Satan is released.

Joel said ALL NATIONS will be included in this battle.

I believe it will be a time of testing to show prideful man what's in his heart, where you see man is put in an ideal environment and still rebel in those conditions, it shows the heart of man, " INCURABLY WICKED "

note:

The church won't be here on earth during this period, we're already raptured up!!

Next you see the devil cast into the lake of fire, and then comes the judgment,

Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: ( AND THEY WERE JUDGED EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO THEIR WORK'S.)

( BELIEVERS WONT BE JUDGED FOR OUR WORK'S, WE HAVE BEEN IMPUTED CHRIST RIGHTEOUSNESS!! ) WE came through the narrow gate.

I believe this is where you will see

Matthew 7:22-23. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

God bless

Hey Wesley

The 1000 Year Kingdom will be on the earth, not in heaven, ( Revelation 11:15) It will be a time when Lord Jesus and those chosen to rule the nations with an iron rod ( Revelation 5:10). We know from ( Revelation 20:7-10), nations after the 1000 years.

The thousand-year reign of Jesus, will be after the great tribulation of Satan, the beast and the false prophet. The second coming of Jesus with the army of angels, ( Matthew 24: 29-31) ( Mark 13: 24-27) the first resurrected saints that meet Jesus in the air, ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17) Jesus' feet land on Mount of Olives ( Zechariah 14:4)



The beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire and the ten king's armies of the beast that came up on Jerusalem to battle are destroyed. ( Revelation 19:11-21) and Satan is chained and put in the bottomless pit.

Then the judgment seat of Christ for those that have been chosen to reign with Him in this Millennium Kingdom. ( Revelation 20: 4-6) People will live and die during this time. and when it is over, Satan will be released and bring an army for one last battle and fire comes down and Satan is cast in the lake of fire. ( Revelation 20:7-10)

White Throne Judgment of the rest of the dead. The goats and the sheep, "some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt", "they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation" Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And then ( Revelation 21) The marriage and the marriage supper. Jesus said at the last supper ( Matthew 26:29) ( Mark 14:25) ( Luke 22:18) when it is new.

The purpose of the thousand-year reign is to put this world in order and allow for the fulfillment of several promises God made with Israel, David and others.

This is a brief view of what I see from my study, I am sure some, maybe you, will disagree and that's ok, may it cause study.

RLW

Vlcki,

According to my notes, only the sealed saints (all) are transfigured (resurrected) at the final trump.

( Revelation 20:5) But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

( Revelation 20:5) but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

( Revelation 20:12-13) The second harvest takes place after the thousand years.

Hello, I appreciate what you wrote there and agree with all your points except the book of life. It's my opinion that we're not written in the book of life until we're first judged by God. I think God knows all and might even take notes in such a book.

I think many assume we're 'saved' instantly when we start following Christ. While the Bible says we can have assurance of salvation if we follow Him, but I'm not aware of any verse saying we're instantly saved and will skip judgment and are in a book of life, as if its a guest list for heaven.

I looked up the 4 verses you posted about 'book of life' and they don't say that all Christians have their names written in the book of life, it doesn't say who or when their names may be written in the book, and doesn't say this comes before judgment day. The Exodus reference suggests that Moses's name was written in a book by God. It doesn't call it the book of life. Moses was also a special person appointed by God. God also replied with this: And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. And the Bible says everyone has sinned.

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

Doesn't say you have salvation now, doesn't say you have it instantly and aren't judged, it says revealed in the last time.

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

This says grace isn't even given to us until the end at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 20:12 - indicates the book of life is used on the day of judgment to review what all have done. Either way all will be judged.

2 Corinthians 5:10

Romans 2:16

John 12:48

Hebrews 9:27

Revelation 20:12

If you have more evidence that says the moment you say respond to an altar call you're instantly in the book of life, or that the moment you decide to follow Jesus you are written in the book of life, please let me know where... Thank you.

Brother Kevin, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and His understanding.

We were predestined to become SONS OF GOD and all that that implies.

Christ was the FIRSTBORN (Son of God) of creation; Christ is now CALLING OUT the ones in the age we are presently in; to be a PREISTHOOD (Sons of God; recreated into HIS exact likeness). These are the children of the first resurrection. These are the ones that will judge the world with Christ and bring righteousness to the earth. This is one of those HARD THINGS to UNDERSTAND. At the death of your body you will be GIVEN a glorified body (you will be GIVEN the FULLNESS of Christ). You will become a consuming FIRE like Christ. You will be OMNIPRESENT; able to judge in the form of SPIRIT, just like Christ; or stand in visible form, just like Christ. Man can't comprehend this so they teach traditions of man; you go to heaven and set in you easy chair eating chocolates. This is what all the saints that have gone before us are doing RIGHT NOW. They are MINISTERING SPIRITS in glorified bodies ministering to the ones (us) that are going to be HEIRS of salvation. ( Hebrews 1:14)

Revelation 20:4 The thousand year reign is not literally one thousand years; but symbolic of the ONE DAY (day of the Lord). This one day (a day called today) has been going on for 2000 years and will continue until all of Christ's PRIESTS have been put in place.

Obadiah 1:21 And SAVIOURS (Sons of God) shall come up on mount Zion and JUDGE the mount of Esau; and the kingdom (CHRIST IN YOU) shall be the LORD'S.

Hi Cheryl,

As I'm not here to say who is going to Heaven and who isn't. Just to put my view to your question with a couple verses. First off there are no surprises with God and He knows exactly who is going to spend eternity with Him. As in Ephesians 1:4-6.

I believe us in the Lord who are His and worthy to be with Him for eternity go to be with Him when our physical body dies. A couple verses: 2 Corinthians 5:1-10, Philippians 1:21-23.

As it is written there are two resurrections. Here in Revelation 7:9-17 are all types of people in Heaven around the throne of God and Christ. Also Revelation 20:4-6 which speaks of those who are worthy of the first resurrection who live and reign with Christ and shall not see the second death. This is before the great judgement which is the end of the chapter.

As also that confirms that not all shall go to be with Christ right after our physical death. Only those worthy of the first resurrection and the rest of the dead lived not until the second resurrection before the great judgement.

God Bless.

Hi Cheryl,

The Bible says we will all first be judged. Not just non-Christians, not just "sinners."

Ecclesiastes 12:14

2 Corinthians 5:10

Matthew 12:36

We also know that some will be confident and assume they'll go to heaven, but won't get in.

Matthew 7:21

To me that means that no one is going to either of those places until after judgment day:

Revelation 20:11-15

Hebrews 9:27

1 Corinthians 4:5

And finally, if people don't go to heaven or hell when they die, where else do they go? Here's what the Bible says:

Job 14:12

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

1 Thessalonians 4:17

I believe just as 8 hours can pass in the snap of a finger will it seem like a snap of the finger for those "sleeping" will awake and rise to meet Jesus in the air then face judgment. This took time to put together and paste all these verses here for you, so I hope you likewise take a moment to hover over them and read them. I care.

Terry, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

There is only ONE LIFE, and that life is CHRIST.

Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine, the soul that sinneth (believes not that Jesus come to destroy DEATH and the GRAVE and replace it with LIFE (CHRIST), IT SHALL DIE.

In Christ; LIFE. Not in Christ; DEATH.

Good Morning. Gog is the king of his kingdom that is called Magog. In the Old Testament you will find Gog and Magog fighting against the Jews in the book of Ezekiel. Today anyone, any system, any government or church who fights against Gods people are considered enemies just like Gog was the enemy of the Jews in the past.

Good Morning. Good question. I think the fact that the last verse says that whosoever name is not in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire shows us that our souls never die.

Mishael,

The number is given:

Revelation 5:8-11

8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and ;thousands of thousands

Do the math: ten thousand x ten thousand = one hundred thousand, plus thousands of thousands = one hundred forty four thousand. Anyone that claims that they are worthy, or measure up to be selected for the firstfruits resurrection should also count themselves as the elect. Otherwise, know your place and wait till the 2nd resurrection.

Revelation 20:5

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

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20:4 And I saw thrones - Such as are promised the apostles, # Matt 19:28|; Luke 22:30. And they - Namely, the saints, whom St. John saw at the same time, # Dan 7:22|, sat upon them; and Judgment was given to them. # 1Cor 6:2|. Who, and how many, these are, is not said. But they are distinguished from the souls, or persons, mentioned immediately after; and from the saints already raised. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded - With the axe: so the original word signifies. One kind of death, which was particularly inflicted at Rome, is mentioned for all. For the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God - The martyrs were sometimes killed for the word of God in general; sometimes particularly for the testimony of Jesus: the one, while they refused to worship idols; the other, while they confessed the name of Christ. And those who had not worshipped the wild beast, nor his image

Mishael,

What elite group of people is John talking about being resurrected, standing about the throne, and reigning with Christ a thousand years?

Revelation 20:4-5

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Who is the rest of the dead?

Sister Mrs. Joanne Peters, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Ephesians 4:5 There is one body, one Spirit, even as you are called in one hope of your calling;

You are the ONE BODY (as everyone else), the SPIRIT (of God; CHRIST) lives IN YOU, and gives YOU everything he is, this one hope (in God's eyes a finished work) is that through the WORK OF CHRIST IN YOU we will be delivered from sin and death (flesh, the ways of the world) into the glorious liberty of the Sons (daughters) of God; the EXACT LIKENESS OF CHRIST. You do nothing on your part, IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD, you are just a vessel made only to hold CHRIST. You (sinful flesh) died on the cross of CHRIST; YOU were raised with Christ and Christ lives for you, gracing you with all he is; love, peace, truth, perfection, mercy, faithfulness, wisdom, understanding, knowledge, etc.

Ephesians 4:6 One Lord (Christ), one faith (and Christ GIVES you his (ONE) faith), one baptism (you were baptised into Christ death; your flesh died with his flesh and was resurrected with him in a NEW BODY (this one body; the body of Christ in us).

Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptised into JESUS CHRIST (not water) were baptised into his death.

Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he hath part in the first resurrection; on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priest of God and Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.