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I think the US originally upheld Christian morals and did mostly good for the world. I think that has changed. Evil has infiltrated nearly all areas of society through a particular political party that is manipulative and doesn't adhere to Christian values such as honesty. The result is a weak country that has done much evil and has enriched the corrupt elites that has enabled it. I used to be optimistic, but now believe it's probably God's will for the US to collapse under its own evil corruption and may not even exist a few decades from now. Satan is real. Evil is real. I personally don't believe gog or magog in Revelation 20:7-8 is the US. It might be Russia and some other superpower that rises up- maybe China or an an arab nation or some combination thereof. This is just pure speculation and personal opinion. I'm seeing massive delusions of people just spreading lies to each other and believing it as if they are under a trance or an evil curse. It might be a precursor to end time events.

Hi Brenda.

No to both your questions.

This belief comes from a serious lack of studying the Bible.

For one the plagues is from the Lord to punish the "Inhabitants" on earth or those who dwell on Earth.

The .mark of the beast is forced by the antichrist.

If God is giving the plagues and the antichrist is forcing the vaccine wouldn't that be a little odd?

Revelation 15:6. And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.

Read Revelation 13:16-17. to find the. mark of the beast.

Read Revelation Ch 15 and Ch 16:1_14..to find the plagues.

And if you noticed If the vaccine was the mark of the beast it would have came before the plagues/coronavirus.

God bless.

Is the plagues going on in the world right now, part of the last days on earth? Is the vaccines the mark of the beast? I don't understand. I have a very forgetful mind. Thank you

Hell is thought of as being a place. Hell is not a place where the wicked suffer forever. Ezekiel 18:20 KJV - The soul that sinneth, it shall die. Ezekiel 18:32"For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye."

Revelation 20:14 "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell." That hell fire is God's light, taking darkness away forever. Wicked see that light as vengeance - wrath. Hebrews 12:29 "For our God is a consuming fire." James 1:17

"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning." Malachi 4:3 "And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts." No one will see God as the fires of hell, when death is no more. Revelation 20:5 "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. They are the wicked. I am working on reducing that number. The size of the lake of fire depends on the number of lost people and souls. There will be a lake of fire. Fallen angels will be destroyed." Eternal torment, made people to make tormenting laws against people. God says fear not, don't be afraid, and don't worry through people, and in person. Ezekiel 18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the LORD God: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye. The saved will have charity, being prefect, not being offended by what is seen, being peaceful. 1 Corinthians 13: 4 - 7, KJV. Giving unto the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house has nothing to do with the giving of money.

Michael,

Revelation 20:8 says that Satan shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. So we're talking millions of people.

And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, meaning the entire earth.

Gog and Magog, we call it May-gog in English, but it is pronounced Mah-gog. Gog is the word that the Jews use for all people who are the enemies of Israel. This is all taken from imagery in Ezekiel Chapters 38 and 39. In that picture, the kings of the east will come through the dried up Euphrates River and attack God's people. Magog is the god, or idol of Gog.

Rod Biblically there are different translations of Hell one is Gehenna a place where fire never goes out and the other is sheol where the dead are. In Revelation at very end all people that ever lived just and unjust will be raised from the dead and judged either to eternal life or hell or Gehenna also where satan will be bottomless pit. We who are born again by-pass all this we are taken up with Christs return, gathering together thessalonians. 1 Corinthians 15:50-56. This is my understanding.

Rod Polk,

In the story of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke16:19-31), we see in verse 23 speaking of the rich man, it says "In Hell he lift up his eyes. That is the word Hades. There's actually only one place in the bible that it is the word Hell, and that's the lake of fire in the book of Revelation. In fact, Hades will be emptied out into the lake of fire. The word Hades means the place of unseen spirits, no physical body, just spirits. Prior to the death of Christ on the cross, when a person died, they went to a place called Hades. For the ones who will eventually be sent to Hell, they were on one side, and the saints waiting for Messiah to come for their salvation were on the other side.

Revelation 20:14 says, "And death and Hell were cast into the lake of fire." That is the compartment of Hades where the non-believers are. They will be cast into the lake of fire (Hell) and will spend eternity there. Right now, there are no believers in Hades. They were released with the Lord's message to them. After He died on the cross for them, He descended into the lower parts of the earth. And all the believers that were in that part of Hades (Abraham's Bosom), they were taken with Christ. But the non-believers were left there. And that's where the non-believers go today until the end of the thousand-year reign of Christ. And then they will be resurrected, the sea will give up its dead, the earth will give up its dead, and they'll stand before Christ and the books will be opened. And they will be judged, every man according to their works. And even death and Hell, and it's kind of like emptying out the compartments. Death and Hell were cast into the lake of fire. From my understanding, this is the other side of Hades that will be emptied out and cast into the lake of fire (Hell).

Is the term Hell the Jewish interpretation meaning the grave. I asked that because in revelations 21 God cast death and hell into hell. I see how death and the grave work together, but how can you literally cast hell into itself and maintain eternity

Adam,

I'm saying that ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17) is for the elect 144K only, no one else is worthy.

( Revelation 20:5) is all that's left. God offers everlasting life and you want to dictate your way past the saints, as if you are on their level? Everything has an order, a time and a place.

In reply to Adam's, "... I personally do not believe people go to the Lord upon death, but sleep until judgment day, based on scriptures I've read....." I wish to point out that Jesus Himself told us what happens to ALL people upon death, Luke 16:19-31 AND ESPECIALY the rich man's request to send Lazarus to his father's house to preach the Gospel BUT Abraham rebukes and responds that they would not believe a simple beggar EVEN THOUGH he knew the truth and died in it. Bible students believe the rich man was not named because the people at that time knew him before his death. Jesus would not speak these things if they were not true. He wants us to be content and with HOPE (not a wish but rather a firm belief) in death. If the rich man was able to identify Lazarus across v26: "... a great gulf fixed.." then I believe Lazarus was also able to identify friends and family on BOTH SIDES of the "gulf", ALL waiting for the final judgement, Revelation 20:11, "And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them." AND Revelation 20:15, "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." - this is the SECOND DEATH, it is eternal. For as long as we will be with Christ, so they will be with satan (his name is not worthy to qualify for the capitalization of the s). Amen.

Dianne,

There are 2 resurrections:

1st resurrection: The 144k saints are out of great tribulation, from all nations and tongues. Not all saints are killed by the beast, not all saints lay dead for 3.5 days. From the way 1 Thessalonians 4:17 is phrased, you could easily believe the first resurrection is for you, but the depictions in heaven identify the 144k only. Below describes saints in heaven, not sinners:

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

2nd resurrection: After the 1,000 years the rest lived.

( Ezekiel 37:1-14)

Earl Bowman,

Does Revelation 20:8 have a relationship with Jeremiah 15:8?

Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as THE SANDS OF THE SEA.

Jeremiah 15:7-8 And I will fan them with a fan in the gates of the land; I will bereave them of children, I will destroy my people, since they return not from their ways.

8 Their widows are increased to me above THE SANDS OF THE SEAS: I have brought upon them against the mother of the young men a spoiler at noonday: I have caused him to fall upon it suddenly, and terrors upon the city.

These two prophets are referencing the SAME LITERAL battle known as WWIII where the heavens rejoice our demise.

Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Brother S Spencer, do you believe the battle of Gog and Magog in Revelation 20:8 is a literal battle.

Brother Jesse, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are ASLEEP, that you sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

Romans 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of SLEEP: for now is our salvation nearer than when we first believed.

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For we believe that Jesus died and arose again, even so them also which SLEEP in Jesus will God bring with him.

1 Thessalonians 5:6 Therefore let us NOT SLEEP, as do others; but us watch an be sober.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are ASLEEP.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the DEAD IN CHRIST shall RISE FIRST (first resurrection)( Revelation 20:5):

Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead that DIE IN THE LORD from henceforth .....

I BELIEVE this is the FIRST DEATH and the first resurrection also describe in 1 Thessalonians 4:16.

I BELIEVE the ONLY one that hears this shout and trumpet is the one being CALLED to take part in the first resurrection. I come as a thief in the night. If everyone heard, it would no be as a thief.

Hebrews 9:27 It is appointed unto men to die..I BELIEVE this is the same death in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 and Revelation 14:13...but after this the judgement.

I BELIEVE this judgement is by God's WORD; both written and living, on those that have their part in the first resurrection. 1 Peter 4:17

I BELIEVE 1 Thessalonians 4 is about those that take part in the first resurrection and are present with Christ upon his return at the second resurrection.

What difference is there in the snatching up, whether it be one at a time or collectively.

1 Thessalonian 4 purports a seventh trumpet resurrection of both dead and surviving sealed saints, coming out of the great tribulation. Since this occurs 42 months AFTER the abomination of desolation, it nullifies such beliefs; it proves the notion and timing of a "rapture" is unsound. The saints were not taken up BEFORE the abomination of desolation, but only at the seventh trumpet, 42 months later. You would want to be "taken" before the great tribulation, not after.

Since 1 Thessalonian 4:17 occurs at the last trumpet, equivalent to Revelation 11:15, it is the first resurrection of the sealed saints only. The dead rise first before the living, therefore this is a small, treasured group of people, and not the whole group. Revelation 14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand...These sealed saints overcame the beast and his mark, they are virgins who will rule with Christ for 1K years. Who among us can be described like that, and who will make it to the end alive?

IT IS NOT Ezekiel 37:1-14 either (2nd resurrection), because here BOTH houses of Israel (Israel & Judah) are being resurrected and stand up as the WHOLE HOUSE of Israel. AND THEY'RE ALL DEAD!!!

This "lifting up" event is misinterpreted so badly, seeing that billions and billions of Christian sinners will require a new earth and new heaven to accommodate them all. Everyone involved should humble their place in line. Counting yourselves among the Revelation 14:4 saints is rather precarious, indeed. Does man immediately deserve to stand alongside the elect saints, and Jesus Christ?

Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. The second resurrection is for the rest, other than the elect, of which the majority are not. When the fast bullets fly, we will get a new perspective on Hebrews 9:27.

Sissy, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

You will get two schools of thought on what happens to us at the death of our body of flesh.

I DON'T BELIEVE in a general rapture of the church; I BELIEVE we are gathered ONE BY ONE.

Isaiah 27:12

Matthew 24:40

I BELIEVE each believer is given HIS REWARD at the death of our body of flesh.

Our REWARD is ETERNAL LIFE and a BODY LIKE CHRIST. We become the IMAGE of Christ.

Colossians 1:15

Colossians 3:10

Romans 8:29

Every believer will receive the SAME REWARD; but different GLORIES.

Matthew 20:1-16

Romans 2:11

1 Corinthians 15:41

I BELIEVE when we leave our bodies of flesh we begin ruling and judging with Christ in the Kingdom of God.

Revelation 20:4

Obadiah 1:21

GBU

Sissy,

There will be two separate future resurrections, the first one will be for believers, which will will take place when Christ comes for His church at the rapture ( 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17). The second resurrection will happen after the thousand year reign of Christ. No believers will be part of the second resurrection.

Here is what happens when a believer dies. First of all, the word death literally means separation. At the point of death, the physical body dies and goes into the grave and awaits the first resurrection (Rapture). But at the point of physical death, the soul/spirit separates from the body and goes to be with the Lord. This is for believers. For the non-believer, their soul goes to a temporary place and awaits the second resurrection.

But for the believer, we go to be with the Lord. When Christ comes to gather His church, we will come back with Him, unless of course we are still alive on this earth when He comes.

But for those who have died, they go to be with the Lord, they will come back with Him, and their bodies will be raised from the grave. And when the bodies are brought out of the grave, and this is according to 1 Corinthians 15:50-54, when the Lord calls those out of the grave, the body comes up, and in the twinkling of an eye, the body is changed into a spiritual body for that spirit to inhabit forever.

As far as judgement goes, every person will stand before God. But for the believer, our judgement is not for salvation because Christ already paid for that. Our judgement will be to determine our reward.

For the non-believers, they await the second resurrection, they will be judged as non-believers, those who have rejected Jesus Christ, and they will be cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:6 says, "Blessed and holy is he that has part in the first resurrection: (Believers) on such the second death has no power. There are two deaths for the non-believer. There's physical death, and there's spiritual death.

Countless thousands of died from this- 7000 on the low end. Check the OpenVAERS dot com stats which come from the CDC. They reported 7000 dead from the covid vaccine. That's more than double the deaths from 9/11 attacks, yet you never hear this on the lying media. They say it's "safe", but obviously if you die it's not safe- think of the thousands of grieving families. They even try to manipulate people into taking it by bribing them with free food, drinks, prizes, games, while failing to disclose that you may die or have blood clots, infertility, and who knows what other problems in the future. I can't believe that a free society forced everyone to become lab rats for an unapproved non-FDA approved experiment- which thousands are dying from. But since VAERS is voluntary for nurses and staff to use for reporting, the 7000 dead is underestimated. It could be 10x that amount! And no one cares! PC correctness is more important than people staying alive? Meanwhile the covid deaths have been grossly exaggerated- only 6% or less of the CDC reported figures are actually covid deaths- which says so on CDCs own website, and masks themselves have caused mass pneumonia deaths, besides the experimental injection. It's shocking how the media covers this up and putting a political false religion above people's lives.

2 Thessalonians 2:11-13

The only explanation for this irrational chaotic lying behavior causing mass death is that people are under satan's grip and have become entranced by a delusion. We are closer to end times than ever. Get right with God today.

And 8 times more likely to catch the Delta mutant variant (if u take the JAB)

Hello, you wrote: " You've been given clews, but still hold America a queen, head and shoulders above the rest." But if you read Mishael's comment, what you wrote doesn't sound true. Nothing suggests she holds America up- so I'm not sure where that assumption comes from.

I think the USA is failing in front of our eyes. A delusion has fallen over people where it prefers lies over truth. It's feelings based (from misinterpreting things) over facts based. Rampant immorality: they attempt to justify sodomy by using words like 'pride'. They attempt to justify mass murder of babies by the word 'choice'. They are violating the constitution of human rights by the word 'hate'- allowing them to censor, shut down any political opponents or freedom of thought. They demonized the police and make false assumptions about situations so they can put police in prison and let violent terrorists roam the city streets. Illegal aliens who commit crimes sneaking in are rewarded with money and free room and board while the citizens themselves are in poverty and homeless. The corrupt leaders of the US don't even like the country and want to give everything away (which steals from the citizens)- but they give mostly to China, and now to Russia (pipeline), and to millions illegals. Really sickening seeing this unfold.

But I'm not sure its' Babylon, which is a city. Rev. 21:11-22:5 and I'm not sure its Gog or Magog: Revelation 20:8-9. It's very possible that the USA will basically collapse and not even be on the map before the end times. It's likely that China will take it over or something.

"a little season" is the same amount of time given in two distinct events: Revelation 6:11 & Revelation 20:3. From Revelation 6:11 we discover that "a little season" is the time between the fifth seal and the seventh trumpet. This indicates that the devil in Revelation 20:3 has the same amount of time being loosed in Rev 6:11.

Revelation 6:11And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as theywere, should be fulfilled.

Revelation 20:3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Chris,

You were doing fine until you started defending what God does when God needs no defense.

Everything that exists only does so because of God.

When the three evil spirits are deposed of, evil will be history, replaced by the comfort we've strived for our entire existence.

( Revelation 20:10) And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Jesus said 'Fear not, for they can only kill your flesh and not your Soul.

But Fear the One who can kill both'...

He is saying,God,the creator of the soul is the One n only,who can Extinguish it...

This is 'The Fear of the Lord', Knowing/understanding,God can do Whatever he wants with Any person at Anytime.

He does this,because he owns us n everything.

Its the same thing as a person builds a custom car.the owner of the car can do whatever he wants with it,paint it any color,wheels engine etc.he can park it,sell it or scrap it

Because the title is in his name

OSEAS,

You didn't answer my questions. You said I was "wrong" about the 2 witnesses, but not why. You had to Google it, I recognized the script you copied. Therefore, I will answer the questions for you:

The 144K are the church, they are Christ's bride. The 2 witnesses, the two candlesticks & two olive trees, the woman from Revelation 12, are all symbolism, metaphors, and allegory describing the 144K. The 2 witnesses and the 144K have the same mission, within the same time frame. You still can't make the connection?

( Psalms 52:8) But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever.

A single nation was an olive tree. A nation divided became two olive trees, two houses, two witnesses.

Below are 5 scripture depictions of the 144K on route to or in heaven. After being called up to heaven, the firstfruits are gathered for their judgment. The 144K "witnesses" are judged and resurrected in the twinkling of an eye. Look how the Rev 7 & Rev 11 stories parallel each other.

( Revelation 11:12) And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

( Revelation 7:9) After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;



( Revelation 7:14)...These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Revelation 14:1-4

Revelation 20:4

Can it get any clearer? The 2 witnesses die, and no sooner do they appear in heaven as the coveted 144K. I have no idea where you stand, but, If you're going to dismiss my interpretation, the burden is on you to back it up with facts. Can you post your own ideas about the 2 witnesses for me to review?

When you you enter this website you will see 2 boxes. Top one says Search Box.

The 2nd one you must dial in your scripture you want more info on. Choose that one.

The chapter will appear. Touch or click your verse. It will highlight Yellow.

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You can do the same thing on Google, but you have to carefully select your Commentary. Wesley is always a good choice. I read from only the first 5 listed. Beyond that you encounter doctrines.

Compare everything to actual Scripture.

Sometimes the Commentary contains many other scriptures that under-gird thoughts. Read all those too.

Buddha is not in the KJV Bible

Hi Gaudencio. What you wrote, "We believed GOD is all knowing with infinite knowledge", is indeed the very Truth that all of life on Earth is hinged upon. Since He knows the beginning from the end, with Whom there is no beginning nor end, then He must see all of His creation (including mankind & his behaviour) in that complete perspective. So what we maybe ignorant of by asking, 'why did God allow this or that, or couldn't He have prevented something from happening', is immaterial when one already sees the complete picture. We could never see it, but God has & planned for it.

If God then created mankind to enjoy His Presence & live in a sin-free condition (as in Genesis chapters 1 & 2), it should be normal to expect God to engineer man's affairs in such a way to bring about the same sin-free, God-glorifying state which man had lost at the first (as in Revelation chapters 21 & 22). The fact that we sinned was not a surprise to God - just as the institution of the sacrificial system & finally sending His ultimate Sacrifice for mankind, was no sudden last-minute decision. God knows, that if His Love is so great & is unfathomable by us, then it has never been in His Mind to annihilate us, but to preserve us to an holy, eternal life in His Presence. What we lost to the Devil, we have now gained in Christ Jesus.

Yet, the mystery of the Gospel still has to go out, that lost, erring souls might be saved & be made new by God's Spirit. For if they still reject God's Provision & spurn His Love to be restored to a perfect state (fully at that last day), then only God's judgement & rejection awaits them ( Revelation 20:15). So why were Adam & Eve tested? That they might know that after they had disobeyed God, that there is still a God of Love in Heaven Who has the capacity to continue to love & provide for them. And that Love, as all love, requires a response to be made complete.

In reply to Glenn Gerun on Luke 5:11

With as much Love and grace of the Lord Jesus Christ that is with in me; I ask that you look into Luke 16: 22- 24. Not all will be with Christ forevermore. 2 Peter 3:9 tells us of God's desire for all, but not all will be with Christ forevermore.

May the Lord bless you in your search of God's righteousness and His wisdom not our own. 2 Peter 1:20

Revelation 20:11-15 depicts the great white throne of Christ Jesus. Not all will be with Christ forevermore.

God gave us these passages, as well as the one's you gave, to help us all to become "Christians or born again believers" in order that we are able to be with Him forevermore.

God's desire is that we be with Him forevermore as you brought forth in your discussion. But only through Scripture, His way. 1 Corinthians 15: 1- 4; Romans 10: 9, 10; 1 John 5:10-13

Pray that this discussion helps everyone on this Forum. God bless you. Love in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Greetings in Christ, Wesley Masterson

From everything you wrote in the first paragraph of your post, the most important is linked with the millennium itself, the other things although they are important too, however they are secondary.

One of the most important event to happen in the beginning of the millennium is to cast down Satan from this heavenly environment in Christ (where we still are in in the present time) to the earth. Immediately thereafter, cast him into the bottomless pit that he should deceive the nations no more - Revelation 20:v.1-3.

I think that you and all here know that the Word of GOD reveals that on God's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years ( Psalm 90:4; II Pet.3:8) so MANKIND would go through six God Days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).

You and all here know that GOD sent JESUS in the TURN of the fourth Day to the fifth Day, or around 4,000 years after Adam. GOD was still working, as JESUS said: John 5:v.17 - My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. And from JESUS until the current time passad more two days or two thousand years, if we call the Christian calendar we would say that have passad 2,021 years. Therefore, from Adam until today already passad around 6,000 years.

That said, we must discern and understand that we are already living in the beginning of the seventh and last millennium, the millennium of Christ, or seventh and last Day, the LORD's Day. In other words, we are living in the beginning of the first century of the seventh and last millennium. Honestly, in my vision, we are in the last decade of the Devil's world -2020 to 2030-, the week 70th of Daniel 9:v.27 (7 years) is within of this current decade, the times of the END arrived.

What I tell you I tell to all: Get ready

S. Spencer,

Lets establish a time frame for, before the millennium age, by the scriptures you referenced.

Revelation 16:16 -just before Christ's return Gog's army is gathered.

Joel 3:2 "I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat...."

Joel 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for (the day of the LORD is near) in the valley of decision.

Ezekiel 38:15 -day of the Lord attack on Israel.

Revelation 20:8 the post millennium battle. How is it that Gog was destroyed by Jesus at His coming, and only a thousand years later, Gog's numbers are as the sand of the sea? I suspect this is a metaphor of an allegory, wrapped in an enigma working here.

Psalm 83:2-8 David's prayer against Israel's oppressors. You have something here, great job. The mention of Edom (Russia/Esau) as the root cause gives merit to this last conflict reference.

Hi Wesley,

I errored when I said I believe the battle in Ezekiel is not the same in Revelation, I meant to say I believe the battle in Ezekiel is not the same in Revelation 20, ( after the Millennium). I believe the battle in Ezekiel is before the Millennium.

However I believe it's what you're saying also,

In Ezekiel it seems they comes from the North ( INTO ISRAEL ) to take spoil.

Ezekiel 38:15. And thou shalt come from "THY PLACE" out of the NORTH parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:

( Perhaps Russia and company.)

Also notice who's missing in Ezekiel. Israels. surrounding neighbors,

In Revelation they are gathered from the 4 corners of the earth to Armageddon.

Revelation 16:16. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

Revelation 20:8. And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in (THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH,) Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: THE NUMBER OF WHOM IS AS THE SAND OF THE SEA.

Joel 3:2. I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

Also notice the intent and the players involved here in

Psalms 83:2-8. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

They have said, Come, and LET US CUT THEM OFF FROM BEING A NATION; THAT THE NAME OF ISRAEL MAY BE NO MORE in remembrance.

For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

The tabernacles of EDOM, and the ISHMAEL IT'S; of MOAB, and the HAGARENES;

GEBAL, and AMMON, and AMALEK; the PHILISTINES with the inhabitants of TYRE;

ASSUR also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

God bless.