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Christ came as SINFUL FLESH, YOU ANDREW, SINFUL FLESH, died on that cross, You ANDREW, rose with CHRIST, the LIKENESS OF CHRIST, being in union with Christ, he is the LIFE, you are the BODY.
Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery....CHRIST IN YOU ........you are the body, Christ is the LIFE
Philippians 2:13 For it is God (the life) that WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is BORN OF GOD (born of truth, because God is truth) doth not commit sin....
TRUTH: you (the body) CANNOT sin because you ARE NOT the LIFE, but God is the LIFE, and God doth not commit sin.
Being born again by the truth of God's word.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and Holy is he that hath his part in the first resurrection (YOU and CHRIST rose as a new creation).......
Truth will set you free.
When you depart this flesh, you are instantly in the presence of Christ because YOU and CHRIST are ONE, joined TOGETHER.
God Bless You as you LIVE IN TRUTH.
Revelation 20:7 And when the 1000 years ARE EXPIRED, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the NATIONS which are in the FOUR QUARTERS of the earth, GOG and MAGOG ......
Satan has NOT YET been loosed from his prison:
The 1000 years are NOT YET EXPIRED:
GOG and MAGOG is all the earth, ALL NATIONS, not one single nation (Russia).
Keep studying God's word, the Spirit reveals as is needed by the ONE STUDYING.
God Bless You!
No. 2. Do You Think Jesus (DIDN'T KNOW) That He Was Calling (The Wrong Disciple) SATAN /A DEVIL: OR, Do You Think Jesus Decided To Go Against Scripture: And Choose "TWO" Devil's.
I think my response above, answers your question about Jesus calling both His disciples, Devil; that these men didn't turn into devils (nor can they), but allowed THE Devil to fill them & use them to work against God. Jesus was hearing devilish words/seeing a devilish act from these men, just as would be expected from THE Devil. As I mentioned, there can only be one Devil/Satan - others are either his spirit devils or those whom he fills to do his work.
Re: "Get thee behind me Satan" ( Matthew 16:23). Remember the Lord used the same words to Satan in Luke 4:8. In both accounts, Jesus was speaking to Satan - at the first time, Satan stood in Jesus' Presence; at the second time, Satan was present in Peter, in Jesus' Presence. Jesus saw the man Peter being used of Satan & Satan received Jesus' scolding. Peter suffered because of it but was forgiven - Satan will suffer into eternity never finding forgiveness ( Revelation 20:10).
"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years" ( Revelation 20:4-6, KJV).
Sequence of Events:
1. The first resurrection (this includes people who are killed during the tribulation for not worshipping the beast or
receiving his mark).
2. Those, who are resurrected, reign 1000 years with Christ.
3. The rest of the dead rise after the 1000 is finished.
4. The second death (for those who are not a part of the first resurrection).
Timing: Begins after the people are beheaded for their witness of Jesus, and for not worshipping the beast or receiving his mark, but before the thousand-year reign of Christ.
Here we can clearly see that there will be people who have been executed during the tribulation present at the first
resurrection. This can only occur if the resurrection occurs after the tribulation. These are the people who reign with Christ for a thousand years. If there is a pre-tribulation rapture, then these people are raised before the first official resurrection, they may not reign with Christ, and they may even be subject to the second death! Clearly, a pre-tribulation rapture requires that these verses must either be refuted or ignored.
"Thus ALL men will be born again of his spirit..I will pour out my Spirit on ALL FLESH...Joel..." Joel 2:28 (cf Acts 2:17). Not all men will be born again as you believe - the Spirit will be given only to those who repent & turn to the Lord. An evidence of this first outpouring was at Pentecost, to which Peter references Joel's prophecy. ALL FLESH represents not All Men, but people of ALL Nations who respond to the Lord.
"there is only 1 thing that initiates Salvation which is the New Birth...Faith can only come by 1 thing hearing his word...And Faith is the evidence of a Birth of Christ in us." Alex, you've got this all mixed up. Faith is NOT the evidence of a Birth of Christ - Faith is a gift of God ( Ephesians 2:8,9) & with God's Grace, brings salvation, hence a new birth. The New Birth doesn't initiate salvation - the New Birth is a product of salvation. ( Romans 10:9,10; 2 Corinthians 5:17).
"It wd make God a hypocrite if he applied the curse of that 1st Adam to all men no exceptions mind you...But Not apply the blood of that 2nd ADAM Christ Jesus the lamb of God to ALL MEN NO EXCEPTIONS." If that were true Alex, there really would be no need to preach the Gospel, as according to you, God is bound to forgive all mankind regardless of their sinful state & hatred of Him. I ask again Alex, as I did many months ago & getting no answer, would you share the Gospel with someone who asks you for the way of salvation? If so, why? And what would be the message?
Lastly, "God is not a torment to them in Christ Jesus but only to the DEVILS AND HIS ANGELS." Please read Revelation 20:10-15. This Lake of Fire is not for purifying nor temporary, it's for everlasting torment for both Satan & his henchmen & those not written in the Book of Life. "Behold now is the day of salvation" - no other opportunity for anyone, hence the Gospel's urgency.
Christ has from the beginning been the BODY of the Father, and all the glory that implies.
He laid down all his glory, and became (sinful) flesh, born of a woman and died on the cross.
It was this body of (sinful) flesh that died, His FATHER (LIFE AND TRUTH) did not die.
Christ said into thy hands (Father) I (the body) commend my spirit (it's the Fathers spirit that gives LIFE, to the BODY).
Christ body lay in the grave three days, then A NEW BODY AROSE, by the LIFE and POWER of the FATHER.
That new BODY is MANKIND, the dwelling place of THE FATHER, and the son at his right hand.
Colossians 1:27 ....this MYSTERY ....CHRIST IN YOU.....
1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it (his creation) a body (Christ is the BODY OF THE FATHER) as it has pleased him, and to every SEED HIS (CHRIST) own body.
YOU ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST, through the workings of CHRIST RESURRECTION.
Revelation 20:6 Bless and Holy is he that has his part in the FIRST RESURRECTION: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be Priest of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
GBU
Matthew 7:21-23
You and I and all mankind were born as sinful flesh, not knowing the truth of God.
Christ came, in the flesh, as sinful flesh.
It, SINFUL FLESH, DIED with Christ on HIS CROSS. You and I and all mankind DIED on the cross with Christ.
Three days latter Christ arose with a NEW BODY, we also shared in Christ resurrection, we now are that LIFE.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy IS HE that hath HIS PART in the first resurrection,...
It is no longer, YOU and I as sinful flesh, but that ONE LIFE of Christ in now, US ALSO.
We are just the body, Christ is THE LIFE, therefore everything we do and say and think is actually THE LIFE of Christ causing it. We are being created in the image of Christ.
Christ is also a body, and the LIFE of the Father is HIS (Christ's) LIFE, HIS (Christ's) WORDS, HIS (Christ's works) WORKS.
Christ said, it's not my words but my Father's words, it's not my works but my Father's works, Of MYSELF I CAN DO NOTHING.
Christ said, I am the vine, you are the branches, without me (MY LIFE) you can do nothing.
Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ..... (the LIFE) CHRIST IN YOU .....
Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh IN YOU (you died on the cross and became a new creation, you and Christ as ONE) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
Revelation 2:26 And he that overcomrth and keepeth MY WORKS .....
And they will say in that day, Lord did not WE, and he will say depart for it was not you but ME.
Most believe that have life of themselves, but the word says life is only in the SRIRIT.
We are just the body that does the labour of CHRIST, THE LIFE.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God (LIFE and TRUTH) doth not commit sin; for HIS SEED remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Christ's LIFE became your LIFE, and Christ cannot sin.
GBU
The seven seals were opened at the death and resurrection of Christ and pentecost, forty five days later.
Revelation 6
First seal white horse (Christ) to conquer (as Holy Ghost).
Second seal red horse (Satan to deceive the whole world)
Third seal, black horse, balances (judgement give to rightly divide the word of God)
Forth seal Death and the grave
Fifth seal Old testament saints awaiting Christ resurrection.
Hebrews 11:39 And these all (Old Saints) having obtained a good report through FAITH (given to them by the Holy Ghost), received not the promise (of Eternal life, but having to wait under the alter (the grave) for Christ resurrection).
Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us (we shall never see death), that they (Old Saints) without us (New Saints) should be made perfect (through Christ resurrection).
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that has his part in the FIRST RESURRECTION .....
Sixth seal Christ crucifixation and resurrection.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon turned to blood.
Joel 2:31 And the sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible DAY of the Lord come.
Matthew 27:51-53 earthquake, Old saints resurrected, moon (symbolic of Christ, Psalms 89:37).
Seventh seal silence in heaven one half hour (symbolic) of the forty five days between the resurrection and pentecost.
Daniel 12:11 From the time the daily sacrifice shall be taken away and the ABOMINATION THAT MAKETH DESOLATE SET UP, there shall be twelve hundred ninety days (forty two months, Christ ministry IN THE FLESH).
Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days (pentecost, Christ second coming and ministry on earth).
GBU
All flesh is appointed to die.
Every soul that sin shall die the 2nd death.
There's a new birth at conversion for those who trust in Christ. This is defined in baptism.
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Hebrews 9:27.
There is in scripture what is called the 2nd death. This has been taken care of for those who trust Christ.
Without Christ you're already dead.
1 Timothy 5:6.
Ephesians 2:5.
Revelation 3:1.
Colossians 2:13.
Romans 8:10.
Mathew 8:22.
Luke 15:24.
And here's an important one for the brethren.
1 John 3:14.
John 11:25-26. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
AND WHOSOEVER LIVETH AND BELIEVETH IN ME SHALL NEVER DIE. Believest thou this?
One of many verses on the 2nd death.
Revelation 20:13-14. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Eternal life.
If you truly trust in Christ, you have been baptized into Christ. You already have ETERNAL life. That's the only kind he's giving.
If you haven't truly trusted in Christ you're already dead while you liveth and it shows up in your living and it observed carefully you'll find it in their Doctrine.
Romans 8:9.
Romans 10:8-10. But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
God bless.
In regards to the portion of your question regarding death=sleep. We must be careful in understanding what is really meant and not fall into the belief of "Soul sleep." Soul sleep is a belief that after a person dies, his/her soul "sleeps" until the resurrection and final judgment. The concept of "soul sleep" is not biblical. When the Bible describes a person "sleeping" in relation to death ( Luke 8:52; 1 Corinthians 15:6), it does not mean literal sleep. Sleeping is just a way to describe death because a dead body appears to be asleep. The moment we die, we face the judgment of God ( Hebrews 9:27). For believers, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord ( 2 Corinthians 5:6-8; Philippians 1:23). For unbelievers, death means everlasting punishment in hell ( Luke 16:22-23).
Until the final resurrection, though, there is a temporary heaven-paradise ( Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians 12:4) and a temporary hell-Hades ( Revelation 1:18; 20:13-14). As can be clearly seen in Luke 16:19-31, neither in paradise nor in Hades are people sleeping. It could be said, though, that a person's body is "sleeping" while his soul is in paradise or Hades. At the resurrection, this body is "awakened" and transformed into the everlasting body a person will possess for eternity, whether in heaven or hell. Those who were in paradise will be sent to the new heavens and new earth ( Revelation 21:1). Those who were in Hades will be thrown into the lake of fire ( Revelation 20:11-15). These are the final, eternal destinations of all people-based entirely on whether or not a person trusted in Jesus Christ for salvation.
Main part of this answer from gotquestions.org
All flesh is appointed to die.
Every soul that sin shall die the 2nd death.
There's a new birth at conversion for those who trust in Christ. This is defined in baptism.
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Hebrews 9:27.
There is in scripture what is called the 2nd death. This has been taken care of for those who trust Christ.
John 11:25-26. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
AND WHOSOEVER LIVETH AND BELIEVETH IN ME SHALL NEVER DIE. Believest thou this?
One of many verses on the 2nd death.
Revelation 20:13-14. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
God bless.
Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Thanks for the notes, and I appreciate your passion for the Lord. I'm not going to worry about you creating a lot of sin in your local community.
Here is my interpretation of verses, and the rational I assign to them:
Revelation 20:10 After the 1,000 years, the devil is put in the lake of fire where the beast and false prophet are.
Revelation 20:15 *Here is the beauty; everybody that ever lived was written in the book of life. God does this wonderful thing, that through Christ's blood, may we all have life.
The OT saints are already in heaven, under the alter. They were given white robes at the fifth seal, and told to wait till the 144,000 are killed at the seventh trumpet, for judgment of those on EARTH, Revelation 6:9-11.
Your heart is attached to Salvation, mine to the prophets. If you have any questions, or other topics, a second opinion, let me know.
Thanks for replying.
I've moved this conversation to a new thread since the other is a week old, And off topic.
You stated:
"Spencer, Jesus said 2 commandments are most important, above all. If I follow the commandments, I will be OK at that. I don't need to dissect a butterfly to see how it flies. My impression is that everyone good and bad make it to the promised land, the tainted spirits we wear will be made whole so we haven't the capacity to sin. Even though it's dangled in our faces, the lake of fire is only for the 3 evil spirits, and no one else. Too much speculation and fuss is made over what will never be known and confirmed from the hear and now. Anything that occurs past the 7th trumpet is beyond our scope, beyond our comprehension, and out of this world. For all we know, our salvation comes from being thrown back into the universe as dust particles, into a new realm.
I don't think about my salvation, I don't worry about it, because it's not mine to entertain, but God's.
My personal salvation is rooted in selfishness that I could be good enough to make the grade.
I seek truth well before salvation. I was never a fanatic for life, so I look forward to death, the charade over. I wouldn't mind being blotted out as if I never existed, no record, that would be fine with me, too. I will have to wait and see what the Lord has in store for me.' End quote.
Roman if I had that mindset there wouldn't be any need to witness.
Roman you said you believe the lake of fire was only for the 3 evil spirits. here's their fate. Revelation 20:10.
But in this same chapter here's
mention of the lost suffering the same fate!! Revelation 20:15.
Here's a few of many scriptures I believe.
We've all sinned and come up short.
Romans 3:22-25.
The payment/Blood sacrfice.
Matthew 20:28.
Hebrews 9:26.
Conclusion.
John 6:28-29.
John 3:16-17.
Romans 10:9.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
Thanks and God bless you Roman.
Perhaps later.
God bless.
Revelation 15:8 And the TEMPLE (you) was filled with the smoke from the glory of God, and HIS POWER .....
John 2:19 Destroy this temple (Christ came as sinful flesh, that temple (sinful flesh) had to be destroyed) and in three days I will raise IT (the new TEMPLE)(the new BODY (dwelling place) OF CHRIST)(we, the body, were raise up with Christ as the new TEMPLE).
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and Holy is he that has his part in the first resurrection ....
1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the TEMPLE OF GOD (filled with his glory and HIS POWER)......
Revelation 15:8 .......and no man was able to enter into the TEMPLE (the new BODY OF CHRIST) until the seven plaques of the seven angels be fulfilled.
The Father pour out, on Christ, those seven LAST plaques (the wrath of God).
Revelation 15:1 ....seven angels having the seven LAST plaques, which are the wrath of God.
Man CAN NOW enter into the TEMPLE (the Body of Christ), because the wrath of God that we deserved, was poured out on Christ.
We are that BODY OF CHRIST where GOD dwells and Christ sits at his right hand.
GBU
Thanks for your input and God bless.
Before I take off, Just want to leave you with this. The word of God declares in Revelation 2:10
King James Version
10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
John was cast into prison and we are not told in the word what the conditions and situation in prison were. Howbeit, we later read and understood that "John the Baptists" was beheaded through the instrumentality of Herodias.
Nevertheless, the scripture again tell us in the same Book of Revelation 20:4
"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
Whatever the case concerning John the Baptists, I reckon he was Spirit filled, and endowed with the knowledge of the Word of God. HIs dilemma could not have been any pressure from the Prince of darkness (Satan) the Devil that he succumbed to.
Let me leave you with this verse from the Book of Deuteronomy.
Deuteronomy 29:29
King James Version
29 The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.
God knows why and what John the Baptists, was going through. When we meet him, we will get to know because he'll revealed everything to us. (His children).
Thanks for your reply.
I've never heard a pre-trib view taught that there is 3 comings of Christ, I always understood that there is the 1st coming and the second coming to Earth.
The rapture is called the "harpazo" in the Greek. meaning "to snatch away" or "to seize," The Lord don't come to the earth, We go to him!
1 Thessalonians 4:17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the LORD IN THE AIR: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
His second coming he comes to the Earth with judgment.
In these 2nd coming verses there's no mention of the removal of saints.
Here's just a few of many.
Zechariah 14:4.
Revelation 19:11-16,
Revelation 20:1-6.
Matthew 25:31-32.
The 2nd coming he comes with his saints.
If he raptured in his 2nd coming when he comes and make war against the nations who's going to populate the Millennium?
Here's parallel verses to
Mathew 24:31.
Isaiah 11:12.
Jeremiah 23:7-8.
Jeremiah 16:14-15.
Ezekiel 34:12-13.
Isaiah 45:4.
Goodnight Kay and God bless.
In you comment, you said Christ would raise them up the last day.
Manuel, the ones that God gave to Christ to be priest in the kingdom were resurrected with Christ.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection, on such the second death hath no power, but they shall shall be priest of God and Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
When you depart this flesh, in the twinkle of an eye you will put on immortality, and reign with Christ.
This ONE DAY (as a thousand years) began on penecost, when we could have the SEED indwell us. You WILL BE the exactness of Christ.
Luke 20:35 But they (the ones God gave to Christ) which shall be worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection of the dead .....
Luke 20:36 Neither can they die anymore (you died on the cross): for they are equal unto the angels (you become a ministering spirit); and are the children of God, BEING THE CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION.
GBU
GOD bless all those who have trusted in the Name of the SAVIOR the LORD JESUS CHRIST.
March 27, 2022
" For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains." Deuteronomy 32:22
" And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." Luke 12:47-48
" But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you." Matthew 11:22
" And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works." Revelation 20:13
Even Jesus did works: Matthew 11:2, Luke 19:37, & said greater works we shall do. John 14:20,
Matthew 16:27,
Matthew 23:3,5,23, hypocrisy not ok, you can read whole chapter & those chapters around it for context. John 8:39,
Romans 3:27-28, helps clarify, 'law of faith' Romans 4, Romans 9:30-33,
What is argued is: Romans 11:6, but in context it's the grace extended to Gentiles Romans 11:16-27, also read whole chapter Romans 11,
& Galatians 2:16, "knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.'' the works of the law are in Gen. Exodus, Deuteronomy, Leviticus. Galatians 3,
& Galatians 2:8,9, but we can't ignore Galatians 2:10,
& 2Timothy 1:9 , Titus 3, Hebrews 4, Hebrews 4:11,
However again we can't ignore 2Timothy 3:16-17, Titus 1:15,16, Titus 2, Hebrews 10:24, James 3:13, 1Peter 2:12, Revelation 2:26,
* James 2,
Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Those who die the second death will die for their own sins, not Adam's.
Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
So read the passage in Luke 16 verses 20-31. In verse 31, "Moses and the prophets" means the Law and the Prophets who preached repentance and salvation. The Bible.
Every time a person hears the gospel preached and they do not respond; their heart hardens until it's hard like granite.
It might help if you tell other family members that you are willing to pray with them. It helps me.
It's not our good behavior that opens heavens gates. It's if we made a commitment and prayed a prayer.
God writes our names in the Book of Life then.
Revelation 20:15, 21:27
I will pray that your heart be settled and that you will have courage to witness to those that you love, or don't. Miracles happen every day.
I agree with S Spencer and Noel, for those of us who have heard of Jesus and are called and have accepted Jesus as our savior the answer would be no.
I would like to give my understanding; God is a loving God Zephaniah 3:17 God will help and strengthen us Isaiah 41:10 God is just and upright Deuteronomy 32:4 and God is love and merciful Ephesians 2:4.
There are millions of people who lived and died before Jesus first came, and millions who have lived and died since who have never heard who Jesus is and what He offers. What happens to them? Everyone who is alive today and all who have lived in the past has the knowledge of good and evil thanks to the first Adam.
The white throne judgment many teach is only for the lost and unrighteous, my understanding is different. In Revelation 20:11-15 all the rest of the dead is judged, small and great and the books were open, and they were judged from the things written in the books, according to their works. In verse 15 it says this, "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire". Along with other scriptures, my understanding is there were some names in the book of life.
God only knows, some scripture gives a clue, People under the law being judged by the law and those who do by nature the things contained in the law not under the law (judged from the things written in the books) Romans 2:12-15, and if the white throne judgment is for lost only, how do we understand these verses, Daniel 12:2 Matthew 25:32-46 John 5:28-29 Acts 24:14-15.
God bless,
RLW
My understanding is, this is the deception of deceptions and will cause the great falling away, 2 Thessalonians 2:3. Part of this deception is that the great tribulation and the wrath of God are taught as being the same thing. We must understand the wrath of God comes after the second coming of Jesus not before. Matthew 24:29-31 Mark 13:24-27.
It developed in the 17th Century, and it quickly led to an understanding that the rapture of the church would be an event separate from and before the second coming of Christ. It was made popular by John Darby, and he is thought by many to be the originator but not. C.I. Scofield, with the study bible with footnotes, helped promote this doctrine of man. It started as pre-tribulation and still mostly believed in.
We as humans sometimes look for the easy way out, and many preachers oblige to fill the money plate that makes merchandise of people, 2 Peter 2:3. Scripture does not say we will be spared tribulation it says the opposite, Acts 14:22 John 16:33. It is debated that although all Christians go through some tribulation, there is yet a great tribulation to come those true believers will not have to undergo. So, who are these, Revelation 7:13-14 Revelation 20:4
Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
The mark and saving our physical life is the temptation, that so many don't believe they will be here to face, that is the great deception. Keep from does not mean we will be spared from being killed it means to spiritually guard (watch), keep intact, Hebrews 3:6. The believers in Jesus in the past were not spared being beheaded, burnt on a stake, fed to the lions, why should we.
God bless,
RLW
The rewarding of the Saint is according to the work done in the name of the Lord.
1 Corinthians 3:11-15. If any works done is deemed to be "wood, hay, stubble" or the works performed did not praise the Lord, the works will be burned, and he will suffer loss. But here's the best part- v15b "but he himself shall be saved"
However the "reward" for the unsaved, lost, or dead is entirely different. As rightly stated by many on this forum, the "wages of sin is death." Romans 6:23. That is the key.
The lost or unsaved will appear at the great white throne to be "judged every man according to their works." Revelation 20:13b
"And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:15.
The Lord God is true and just in all His dealings with us.
The key to all of this is simply the Salvation of the Lord Jesus Christ. Even if we do not understand it, God does. He does not ask for our understanding; just our obedience and trust. God bless all on this forum. March 4, 2022
2Timothy 2:1-5, Psalms 102:12, 2Thessalonians 1:4,
Hopefully these are helpful
Matthew 5:11-13
Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you for His name sake.
But you definitely planted a seed in the hearts of everyone listening. Even though you can't see it in the moment, some will end up believing later because of you. Stand for Jesus and He will stand for you! God bless and keep you Rebecca!
I think you did the right thing by speaking up to your teacher. Whether or not this teacher is open to receiving God's truth is up to the teacher, (and the other scoffers). You can now know more about this teacher and your classmates. Those who stood with you are good people to hang with.