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Alex God called paul out because Paul in his heart believed he was doing the right act out of IGNORANCE

because who are you to say you can Go against the LAWS SET UP BY GOD. It wasn't because Saul absolutely

did not believe. There are many who absolutely do not believe period and have heard he good news and will

not believe! You are blind if you don't get that! IT IS WRITTEN I.E. ROTTEN TO THE CORE NIMROD GREAT

EXAMPLE

Delores - That makes some feel good but it won't stand in judgement.

Revelation 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

John 15:2 Every branch (in me) that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Matthew 25:14-30 And cast ye the (unprofitable servant) into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.



Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou (faithful unto death), and I will give thee a crown of life.

Alex. I think you're seeing our sinful nature & our sinful hearts as the one & the same. Our hearts are sinful because of our sinful nature that we're born with. Jesus' Sacrifice was to forgive sinful man of his sins & open the way for His Spirit to enter in & renew him, making him a child of God. Our sinful nature will always be with us till our redemption is completed.

My Bible obviously reads differently to yours in respect to Malachi 3:1-4, or else, I don't spiritualize everything I read. Yes, there are lessons & types in the Old that must be carried over to the New, but many, many things are purely historical accounts for our learning & growth in faith & do not find fulfillment in the NT.

I did not say that Christ-rejectors cannot be saved, I said that "you believe, that all sinners (even Christ-rejecters) will one day be saved". A person may reject Christ & His Gospel now, but while there is breath in his body, that soul still has opportunity to repent & be saved, if he comes in faith. Your belief is that all people, even those who reject Christ now & into the next life, will yet be saved because that is how you understand the Gospel. You have it in your mind that all will be saved one day, which I believe goes against the message of the Gospel & its urgency to proclaim it. I ask again, if that is the case, why preach the Gospel - why should any man or woman be moved towards God now, if God is going to save everyone in the end? "If the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?" 1 Peter 4:18.

Cee you must be born again ( John 3) Repent to God in Jesus name, when you mean you are sorry and willing to follow him you will know. If you love the truth - his word the light will shine.

Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

When you get these two in your heart the rest will follow.

1 Timothy 5:4, but also in consideration : 2 Corinthians 12:14,

Beware of John Hagee, he is a false teacher. And that statement is really mad, only God decides

what happens with prayers from this or that person.

Dont quit sister ! Pray to the Lord he gives you much faith if you ask him !

You dont need alot of faith to believe- you only need a mustard seed of faith :)

Thank you for taking time to respond to me. The chronological references offer another dimension which makes me to think if the scriptures are talking about multiple kings with respect to the events of the test and dream respectively. Although I have had to read again and it appears the King remains Nebuchadnezzar; is it possible that the king in chapter 2 bears the same name as his father in chapter 1? Still curious.

God bless you.

Thank you foe taking time to respond to me. I have gained more by reading the additional references although my main curiosity is not totally cleared.

God bless you.

Gerard Always be carefully studying the scriptures verses false doctrinal traditions of men which are

changes from truth to belief systems outside of scripture, sometimes not unintentional. Remember man

hall not live by bread alone but by Every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. 2 Timothy 2:15

2 Timothy 3:16,

Interestingly this is the Scripture used to tempt Jesus. Psalms 91:11-12, Luke 4:11, Matthew 4:6,

Continued : Matthew 15,

Absence of words do not set an agreement to a matter.

Where did HE say that? About washing? HE said Matthew 15:3, Matthew 15:7-11, Matthew 16:20,

These were leaders, teachers, transcribers of GOD's Laws, "the Holy Scriptures" in the Jewish religion. HE, Jesus "Jewish" Messiah, was pointing out to them the importance of the Laws they were supposed to know, transcribe & teach.

Matthew 15:7-9, HE, Jesus brings of prophetic Words from the very Books they were supposed to know. Then HE addresses the people. Matthew 15:10-12,13,14

Then Matthew 15:15-20 Jesus points out the true defilement Matthew 15:18,19,20,

Matthew 15:22-28, Romans 1:16-24,

interestingly we feel offended for her, yet she persisted, then was granted a miracle & an edification for her "great faith" .

Hopefully these are helpful.

Shalom brother Stanley. There is only one account of Creation where all were made into being. that is in the 2nd chapter of the book of Genesis. in the 1st chapter of Genesis, God made everything in the spirit and saw that all he had made was good. the He implemented into physical.

Matthew 5, Jesus explains: Matthew 5:7,8,9,10,11,16,

Matthew 5:17-19,

Matthew 5:20-48,

John 11:55, Mark 14:12, John 6:4, Luke 22:1,

John 12:1,12,13, John 13:1-2,

Matthew 27:15,

1st Sabbath being the Passover feast.

Exodus 12,

2nd Sabbath Matthew 28:1,

Psalms 81:3, also significant Mark 15:33, total solar Eclipse, New moon?

We should be careful not to follow after traditions set up by men, but Study to understand. Colossians 2:8, Matthew 15:3, Mark 7:9

Why would Jesus rebuke them over tradition? Because even today it causes doubt, & confusion amongst the church.

Hopefully these scriptures are helpful. GOD's WORD is truth.

Tradition is not 100% reliable.

Jesse To me whats remarkable about Paul before he became Paul in His heart he always wanted Gods

best and that is why Jesus Christ hand picked Him so to speak because He knew his heart was right just

he just needed a Holy Adjustment figuratively speaking.

Hello Gerard The study I've understood in the week he was crucified timeline, according to the Judean

calendar at that time Jesus Christ was crucified wednesday afternoon between 3pm and before sunset

wednesday so it didn't interrupt the Passover feast[Ironic because He was Gods Passover for mankind and

Saturday before sunset which would make for 72 hours, also according to the law again fulfilling all the

law He had to be legally declared dead 72 Hours. My understanding from scriptures in chronological order.

Chris Jesse and Gigi In regard to what you shared I know that Satan cannot create all he had to do was duplicate

and corrupt that which was already in existence, knowing that His target was Adam and Eve. At any rate

interesting input moving onward and upward.

Hello Brother Spencer,

I'm not sure how this would tie in to the lesson you studied, but I'll share this with you. I'm looking at those Greek words both in Matthew and Luke. In Matthew 4:1, the word tempted is PEIRASTHENAI which means to be tried. In verse 7, the word tempt is EKPEIRASEIS which means to put on trial. What's interesting about Matthew Chapter 4 is that in James 1:13, it tells us first of all that God cannot be tempted, nor does He tempt anyone. You can't tempt Him and God Himself is not responsible for temptation.

As far as Jesus having to prove Himself, here is what I find interesting. In Matthew 4:3, it sounds like the tempter is asking Jesus to prove who He is. The tempter says "If thou be the Son of God, command these stones be made bread. That word "if" makes it sound like he's asking Jesus to prove who He is. That's what we get from the English text.

But here's why I love the Greek so much. The word "if" in the Greek text is what is called the first class condition assumed to be true. It can be translated "since." The devil, in tempting Jesus, was not tempting Him to prove that He was the Son of God. Satan is saying (since) you are the Son of God, then do this. Misuse your authority. Misuse your position. Be disobedient to your heavenly Father. But please note that Satan is not asking Jesus to prove Himself to be the Son of God, but actually questioning Him, baiting Him to disobey the commandments of God.

In Luke 14:19 the word prove is DOKIMASAI which means to test.

I'll share this with you, something I learned. A farmer in those days, if he had one pair of oxen, he would be considered fortunate. This is obviously a rich farmer. He just purchased five pairs of oxen. He's says, and I have to go and prove (DOKIMASAI/Test) them: so have me excused.

This is equivalent in our day to "I just bought a new car. I got to go test drive it and break it in, so have me excused."

Well, I'm off to bed. Hope to chat with you again soon. God Bless

Challenge: go on Google and type

Do all colors come from black?

Or the reverse: do all colors come from white ?

Comment= artists' know of these things. It takes skill to find the elements on earth (Creation) to produce colors for painting.

Do you ever stand in your closet and look at what colors your clothes are? Mine are black, gray, dark greens, purple, taupe. I don't care zip what analysts say either. :D

I leave you to ponder and ask God why humans are the colors that they are?

Get a large coffee, there's a hundred links on that Google query.

Thanks Spencer,

I am enjoying studying Genesis once again. I am picking up so much more than I have in prior studies. But hey, God knew that would happen, right!

God's sovereignty is tied to His omniscience. He knows everything that anyone will think, say or do throughout time. He knows everything that will happen in the natural world. He knows everything that will happen in the spiritual world. So, nothing can take Him by surprise or out maneuver Him. His sovereignty is not challenged by the free agency He gave to spiritual and corporeal beings. He does not force anyone to do anything, like what the brothers did to Joseph. He already decided before time began to bring good out what was intended for evil for Joseph, just like He decided before time began to bring good out of the evil of sin, and the crucifixion of His Son. Only God is able to do this, because He alone is sovereign, omniscient, and good.

Thanks Jesse,

That is interesting information.

Rick,

I have never considered your idea before. I know that in the New Jerusalem there is the Tree of Life, but the Tree of knowledge of Good and Evil is not mentioned to be there.

I think like Chris, that God created both trees because Satan is not able to created something living. He uses what God as made, said, or does to pervert it and reshape it into something wicked.

I believe that God knew all along what would happen in the Garden with Adam and Eve, the tree and Satan. I think He designed it all to happen as part of His plan to redeem creation from the wicked one. Satan thought he had won in the Garden, but he really didn't, because mankind's fall necessitated a Redeemer in order for God to prove to be the Victor over the evil Satan brought into creation.

We may never truly understand God's mind in this, because He absolutely does not tempt anyone, but He does know that if He gives a command, temptation to disobey will be right on the heels of the command. Who knows, maybe He had given Lucifer and the other angels a command, and Lucifer decided to disobey this one command. Then corruption followed, just like with man. The difference is that Lucifer was created immortal, man was not. The reason God did not want Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of life because He knew that should mankind become immortal e would send all of eternity becoming more and more corrupt and evil, just like Lucifer. God had a different plan and end for mankind and ensuring that man remained mortal was part of that for our sake and for His glory.

Yes, Chris,

Each of us walk as Christ calls us to walk. We are individuals, and God is able to work individually in the billions of people in existence on earth today.

2Corinthians:4:6-7

"For it is God who commanded light to shine out of darkness,, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us."

May we let His light shine out of each of us so those in darkness can see the desirableness of Christ in us.

Sister GiGi, Brothers Chris and David,

I've read that Paul was a member of the Sanhedrin when persecution broke out against the early church, and one of the requirements for being in the Sanhedrin is that the person be married. GiGi, I also believe that either Paul's wife had either passed away or she divorced him because of his conversion. Whatever the case may be, we don't know. But he says I'm single, and I wished, not commanding, but I wished that everybody was as I myself.

Brothers Chris and David, you make some excellent points. Paul spoke about how a married man or married woman might be distracted because their focus would be on how they might please one another instead of on Christ. It seems as though this would be a natural thing for one who's married. So Paul may have experienced this both ways, being married, and then later on being single.

Paul says in Acts 26:10 "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of the saints did I shut up in prison." He goes on to say that many of the saints that believed in Jesus of Nazareth, I shut them up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests;

And then it's interesting where he says that when they were put to death, "I gave my voice against them." This means that Paul was a member of the Sanhedrin. He voted for the death penalty against Christians. Only the Sanhedrin could cast a vote for the death penalty.

We know back in Acts Chapter 7, especially with Stephen, that Paul was there to oversee it. And what the witnesses would do, the witnesses had to do the stoning, but they would take their overcoats off and lay them at the feet of the man that is in charge of overseeing the execution, and so they laid them at the feet of a man named Saul.

And here he's telling them "I was active in shutting them up in prison having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I was voting, I gave my voice against them.

Brother Rick. Even after considering what you proffered, I still believe that God, Who created all things, living & non- living, placed both those trees in the garden. The very tenor of that Scripture ( Genesis 2:16,17), compels me to understand that God knew all about that tree, why it was placed there (was it for a test to mankind or have some other implication?), & it's possible future impact.

If Satan could even do something as creating an object from nothing, it seems that God was quite accepting of the tree's presence & His seemingly casual reference to it being there. I understand the question you posed but I still feel that it was something from God that Satan used to cause Adam & Eve to question God's Word & infinite Mercy. Had that tree not been there, or that A & E were not given instruction by God about it, Satan would have surely found another way to get them to doubt, disobey, or depart from their Creator. As brother Jesse shared in another thread, that Jesus Himself was tested by Satan on all points (i.e. the appeal to the flesh, to the eyes, or to one's pride/loftiness), & still Jesus refused to buy into Satan's useless tactics/tests - because the Word of God stands sure & our resilience & joy comes when Satan is rebuffed with the Word & flees. Maybe (& just a thought if there was no Tree), Satan could have convinced A & E to start hunting & killing animals for the sport of it - I would think that that would have come before God as sin - he would have got to us in some way or the other.

Is there two creation?

Amen Sister. As the apostle said of the Lord, "My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness." Sufficient Grace for every need, even a life of singleness; finding even greater delight in the Lord's closeness, comfort & counsel.

Thanks Rick!

I'll definitely study that.

Goodnight.

God bless.

Hi GiGi.

The Lord deliverance of Israel out of Egypt was well planned out and his glory was on display Exodus 14:4. and Romans 9:17.

And them entering Egypt was impressive as well with the Lord in total control of this from the selling of Joseph

( Genesis 50:20.) through out the blessings of Joseph. I like to view it as the Lords sovereign plan being exercised

( Genesis 15:13) rather than the brothers doing evil. God was in total control, and even over the famine.

Because all this contributed to the promise he made Abraham.

Great read.

God bless and Goodnight.

It is said that Jesus our Lord would rise after three days and nights. Friday evening to Sunday doesn't fit. Can you explain it?