Discuss Romans 3 Page 9

  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Corinthians 5 - 4 years ago
    Amen brother Carleton. Isaiah 53:6b: "and the LORD hath laid on him (Jesus) the iniquity of us all". And by faith in the crucified One, our "iniquities" are presented to the Father in His Son, Who mercifully forgives us & fully justifies us ('just if I'd' never sinned). The wonder of His Salvation - that all the praise must only go to Him. Romans 3:24; Romans 5:1.
  • Messenger - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Romans 5:12 Wherefore (as a result), as by one man sin entered into the world ( Genesis 3), and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

    all man (woman, children) on this earth are sinners . Jehovah ( Psalm 83:18) is not looking for perfection.

    he's looking for *grief (repentance) and repentance from within ( Ps. 51:4). that inner thought and mind.

    that inner regret and groaning because of bad . but what if a person keep sinning willingly? Hebrews 10:26; 1 Corinthians 6:9,10

    however, what can be done to run in a way that doesn't cause

    a big stumble or fall with self or others?

    Psalm 1:1-3; 2 Timothy 3:16,17 study and correct

    Luke 22:40 prayer

    1Corinthians 15:33 Abandon anything that is influencing bad behavior.( Proverbs 13:20)

    *Example of major sin:

    2Samuel 12:1-18; Ps. 51:4

    I hope this helps. there is more... but don't want to

    overwhelm. ( Romans 7:14-25)
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Basic Distinctions between Prophecy and the Mystery (C.R. Stam) - continued:

    8) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such ( Isaiah 2:4; Ezekiel 37:21-22)

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

    8) The Mystery Concerns individuals ( Romans 10:12-13; 2 Corinthians 5:14-17)

    9) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth ( Isaiah 2:3-4; Isaiah 11:1-9; etc.)

    RDf

    9) The Mystery Concerns "all spiritual blessings in The Heavenlies" ( Ephesians 1:3; Colossians 3:1-3)

    10) Prophecy concerns Christ's Coming to the earth ( Isaiah 59:20; Zechariah 14:4)

    RDf

    10) The Mystery Explains Christ's absence from the earth ( Ephesians 1:20-24; Colossians 3:1-3)

    11) In prophecy, salvation by Grace through faith alone is not contemplated ( Matthew 28:19-20; Matthew 23:1-3; Luke 7:29-30; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; James 2:17)

    RDf

    11) Salvation "By GRACE Through faith" Alone lies at The Very Heart Of The Mystery! ( Romans 3:21-26; Romans 4:5; Ephesians 2:8-9)

    12) The proclamation of the prophetic program committed particularly to the twelve ( Matthew 10:5-7; Acts 1:6-8; Acts 3:19-26)

    RDf

    12) The proclamation of The Mystery program committed particularly to Paul ( Ephesians 3:1-3; Ephesians 3:8-9; Colossians 1:24-27)

    13) The prophetic program revealed through many of God's servants Luke 1:70; 2 Peter 1:21)

    RDf

    13) The Mystery revealed through one man: Paul! ( Galatians 1:1; Galatians 1:11-12; Galatians 2:2; Galatians 2:7; Galatians 2:9; Ephesians 3:2-3)

    14) Old Testament writers frequently did not understand the prophecies made through them ( Daniel 12:8-10; 1 Peter 1:10-12)

    RDf

    14) Paul Both understood And longed that others might understand The Mystery revealed through him ( Ephesians 1:15-23; Ephesians 3:14-21; Colossians 1:9-10; Colossians 2:1-3)

    {borrowed from "Things That Differ" by C.R. Stam}
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Isaiah 66 - 4 years ago
    Lindsey carter,

    The Sabbath is and has always been the seventh day of the week, Constantine made a Sunday law in 321 A.D. The Roman Catholic Church at the Council of Laodicea - 364 A.D, this council was held to stop the Sabbath-keeping tendencies in the Eastern Roman Empire. The Council of Laodicea (Nicolaitans), produced sixty rulings, or canons, covering a broad range of topics. Doctrines other than Sunday were written by them and the penalties for not obeying them that has continued until today.

    The New Testament tells us that trying to seek justification before God by keeping any part of the law automatically makes us responsible to keep the entire law. You will either stand before God and be judged by the law, or you will be established in the righteousness that comes by faith in Jesus Christ. Consider the following verses.

    Read these and show your brother-in-law, ( Romans 3:20-24) ( Romans 14:2-6,13) ( Galatians 3:11-13) ( Colossians 2:11-16) There are more scripture you can find.

    Regardless of what you may believe, man does not have the authority to change any law that God made and Jesus Christ fulfilled, especially how they changed it and the reason it was changed, but you cannot call Sunday the Sabbath. We are not to judge anyone for going to a church on Sunday or any day of the week. We are to worship in spirit regardless of where or what day, hopefully, every day. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law".

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Adam - In Reply on Revelation 20 - 4 years ago
    Hello, keep in mind that all sin leads to death. Only through Jesus do we have hope for eternal life in heaven. And that doesn't mean it's a pass to commit sin as some assume, but we are to put away the old sinful self and become slaves to righteousness. Doing good is good. Some people falsely claim that doing bad is better than doing good and we know where that comes from. God bless.

    1 Corinthians 6:9-11

    Leviticus 20:13

    Romans 3:23

    Acts 2:38
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} on Galatians 2:7 - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Part II (Previous) Gospel of the kingdom

    Rightly Divided From ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

    Gospel Of The GRACE Of God =

    Gospel of the Uncircumcision ( Galatians 2:7; Galatians 6:15; Romans 4:9-11)

    Preached first by Paul, then his companions ( Acts 13:38-39; Acts 20:24; Acts 16:31; Romans 3:24)

    The Mystery Program for The Gentiles ( Ephesians 3:1-3; Colossians 1:25-27; Romans 16:25)

    The preaching of The Cross as Good News ( 1 Corinthians 1:18; 1 Corinthians 2:2; 1 Corinthians 15:3,4)

    Gospel to be believed = Christ's Work ( Romans 5:6 Romans 5:8 Romans 5:10; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

    Salvation By GRACE Through faith plus nothing ( Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 4:5; Titus 3:5)

    Justification by faith without works emphasized ( Romans 3:28; Romans 4:5,16; Galatians 2:16)

    Repentance as a synonym for faith ( Acts 17:30; Acts 20:21; Acts 26:20; Romans 2:4)

    Involves reconciliation to God and man ( Romans 5:10-11; Romans 11:15; 2 Corinthians 5:18-20; Ephesians 2:16; Colossians 1:21)

    Covers Paul's letters Romans - Philemon (Also Acts 9-28)

    Not under the law ( Romans 5:20-21; Romans 6:14; Galatians 5:6)

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    IMKane, hope this was helpful answering your Great questions.

    Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified!
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply on Numbers 15 - 4 years ago
    Jesse said: "a non-believer can become a believer and still not be forgiven. A person has to be born of God's Spirit in order to be forgiven and saved. Belief is important, but belief itself does not bring salvation. Receiving Jesus Christ and being born of His Spirit is what saves a person. With that salvation comes forgiveness."? According To Plain/Clear Scriptures?:

    Precious friend, then I must Misunderstand: "Repent, and Believe The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God"? = "Believe On CHRIST, His Death, Burial, and Resurrection, by GRACE Through faith {BELIEF, trust}." ( 1 Corinthians 15:3-4) ( Ephesians 2:5-9)?

    I must Misunderstand "trusting CHRIST" In ( Ephesians 1:12)? Also:

    "But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of The LORD, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and BELIEF of The Truth:" ( 2 Thessalonians 2:13)?

    "Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that BELIEVE..." ( Romans 3:22)? compare ( Romans 4:11) ( Romans 4:24) ( 1 Corinthians 1:21) ( Galatians 3:22) ( Ephesians 1:19) ( Philippians 1:29) ( 1 Thessalonians 1:7) ( 1 Thessalonians 2:13) ( 1 Thessalonians 4:14) ( 2 Thessalonians 1:10)

    Finally IF I BELIEVE, "but sins are NOT forgiven," how is it that I HAVE Life Everlasting, According To ALL The above Plain And Clear Scriptures About "BELIEF"?:

    "Howbeit for this cause I obtained MERCY, that in me first JESUS CHRIST might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter BELIEVE ON HIM to Life Everlasting." ( 1 Timothy 1:16)?

    Upon my BELIEF Of Truth, did not The Holy Spirit Baptize ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) me Into The Body Of CHRIST, God "forgiving my sins," in the twinkling of an eye?

    Now, IF you are referring to "water baptism for the remission of sins" that is altogether

    Another Different Bible study we could pursue, IF you wish...

    Respectfully, ChrisE
  • Cindy Renay - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Charity,

    No one is good enough. ROMANS 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God."

    Pray that God conditions you not to worry. Matthew 6:34 "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."

    Give your troubles to Christ. 1 Peter 5:6-7 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

    God bless!
  • Chris - In Reply on Revelation 2 - 4 years ago
    Hello Estela. Yes, many people have enquired how a good God can permit so much suffering upon us. If He is so good, shouldn't He step in & put an end to sicknesses, diseases, murders, etc.?

    I think of it this way: if God did put a stop to these things, then they would only be temporary, since every man, woman & child is born a sinner ( Romans 3:23), & because of our sinful condition, all these things come upon us. When Adam & Eve were created, they were sinless, enjoying God's Presence continually, no sickness, in harmony with animal life around them, & would never see death. But once they disobeyed God & sinned, they lost all that perfection, & they had to hide from God (Genesis chapters 2 & 3).

    And ever since, their sinful nature & death was passed upon all of us ( Romans 5:12) & the proof is the way we behave before God & our fellow-man even now. Even the one who murders another is no different to the one who has hate in his heart, according to Jesus ( Matthew 5:21,22). Or the man who cheats on his wife is the same as the one who cheats on his taxes. So all these evil traits that we might have in us are a result of indwelling sin. Yes, God can stop us from doing those evil acts, but evil will always be with us & in our hearts - and this is unacceptable before God.

    What God has done, was to give us a new heart & a new spirit so that we won't do those things that come from within ( Matthew 15:19). If our heart is clean & right before God, we won't do evil & hurt one another and that was why He sent His Son to this Earth to give His Life. Jesus paid the price for our sin, which we couldn't pay, & made us acceptable before God & a clean vessel to be used by Him. So in God's Sight, stopping the murder of someone doesn't fix the problem of murder: murder will always happen, whether against someone or in our hearts. The solution to stop them is that they be changed on the inside. But most people refuse His salvation & so evil will continue with so much suffering.
  • Jess - In Reply - 5 years ago
    Being born again is very simple....First we must realize that all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God....



    Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

    Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

    Sin is anything that goes against God's standards and rules...this goes from lying to thinking bad thoughts...to murder and sexual perversions..ect... God says there is a price for these sins...and that price is death...and not just our bodies dying because our bodies are only temporal on this earth...but our SOULS are eternal...so this death God speaks of is in terms of ones soul to be eternally separated from the God that created us in His image..SO Hell is the punishment for sin...

    Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    BUT God!! Sent Jesus to pay our sin debt and it is a free gift to any that believe that Jesus died, rose, and is now at the Right Hand of the Father we also can live eternally with God..but we MUST KNOW we are sinners!! And just like a child that does something wrong seeks to be forgiven...we must seek the same from God through Jesus...with FAITH!!

    Romans 10:9-10

    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    Confess we KNOW Jesus as our Saviour!! Believe in our hearts we are sinful...but God loves us enough to have mercy on us...believe God raised Jesus up...and He WILL raise His children up as well...Jesus defeated death...God raised Him from the grave! He can give us rebirth!! IF we will just accept it! Praying God give you wisdom and understanding in this if you have never been born again!
  • Sacha - In Reply on Romans 3:22 - 5 years ago
    Darryl , I am so happy for you , I have known a few people in your situation , I'm very pleased that you have finally got this sorted , much love in Christ .
  • Darryl Turner on Romans 3:22 - 5 years ago
    God has me with great wealth and that I have been except for the Disability Claim that's been APPROVED though my Attorney that's been going on for the last year and 1/2..
  • Be on Romans 3 - 5 years ago
    be righteous and deciare righteous
  • Adam - In Reply - 5 years ago
    Ok, thanks for clarifying. I see those 2 verses as disconnected and unrelated. I don't believe only 144k will be caught in the air, but many more- all who were genuine Jesus followers. All the genuine Jesus-following Christians in the grave now far surpass that number. All are sinners on earth: Romans 3:10 needing grace. Revelation is highly symbolic and there are mysteries not yet revealed to us and I think Revelation would be completely understood until the afterlife. If salvation was only for 144k then that number would have been maxed out long ago. What then would be the point of being a Christian and spreading the gospel if no one could be saved? For those reasons and many others not stated I don't believe the symbolism in Revelation means only 144k are saved. God bless...
  • Cindy - In Reply - 5 years ago
    Being saved does not mean we will not sin. 1John 1:8 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God."

    Sin falls into different categories.

    1. Unintentional sins where we don't mean to sin, as in uttering a curse word.

    2. Deliberate sins where we willingly do something we know is a sin, such as stealing, committing adultery, and so on.

    3. Sin of Omission where we know to do something and refuse to do it. For instance, refusing to help someone in need.

    When we sin, we must confess that sin and ask Jesus to forgive us of that, and he will! 1John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
  • OSEAS - 5 years ago
    Genesis 3:v.1-4

    Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

    2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

    3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

    4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

    Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof. Proverbs 18:v.21

    When the Devil speaks, his speech is accompanied by the death, or death comes together his speech simultaneously. Why? Because the Devil's speech changes the course of the nature, as is written in James 3:v.6-8:

    6 The tongue is a FIRE, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on FIRE of HELL.

    7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:

    8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

    Romans 3:v.13-14

    13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

    14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

    2 Corinthians 11:v.13-15

    13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

    14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

    15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers (MINISTERS of Satan) also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

    NOTE:

    There will be two powerful Beasts in near future: The ancient Beast of sea-the Papacy-, and the Beast of earth(Israel) with two horns like a lamb(false lamb/false messiah), and he spake as Dragon.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - 5 years ago
    The 70 th Week

    Part 3

    Jesus confirmed the last 3.5 years through His apostles ending when Stephen was killed, Paul was converted, Peter had his dream the conformation to Judah ended and the gospel was sent to the Gentiles. This fulfills the 70=weeks 490/483 years

    We have been told to study, we are told to test the spirits, trust our teacher the Holy Spirit and pray. These are the six things that were determined on Judah and the holy city Jerusalem, a few verses that may help see if this has been fulfilled by Jesus.

    1. To finish the transgression ( Isaiah 53:5, 8) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Hebrews 9:15-18)

    2. To make an end of sins ( Matthew 1:21) ( Hebrews 10:8-11) ( John 1:29) ( 1 Corinthians 15:3)

    ( 1 John 3:5) ( Psalm 32) ( Romans 8:3)

    3. To make reconciliation for iniquity ( Colossians 1:20-22) ( Isaiah 53:6) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Ephesians 2:16) ( Titus 2:14) ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-19)

    4. To bring in everlasting righteousness ( Romans 5:17-21) ( Romans 3:21-26) ( 1Peter 2:24)

    ( 2 Corinthians 5:21) ( Isaiah 61:10-11)

    5. To seal up vision and prophecy ( Daniel 9:23) ( John 6:27) ( Mark 1:14-15) ( Acts 3:18)

    ( John 5:36-40) ( Matthew 11:11-15)

    6. To anoint the most holy ( Hebrews 8:1-12) ( Hebrews 9:6-14)

    The 70 th week has been used along with other Bible verses to paint a fantastic picture of end times. The pre, mid, or post rapture of the Church, an antichrist, 7-year tribulation, 3.5-year covenant with Israel, a third temple, abomination of desolation, 3.5 years great tribulation after breaking covenant, and more. Many of these teachings started in the late 1600s. I hope this helps, if this prophecy has been fulfilled, it will show the falsehoods of these teachings because without using part of the 70 weeks prophecy given to Daniel, these teachings will fall apart.

    Acts.3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

    RLW
  • Jesse - In Reply on 1 Peter 1 - 5 years ago
    Gigi,

    If I may add another perspective.

    James 2:10 says, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of the whole thing."

    But look what it says in Verse 11. It says "For he that said." He didn't say for the scriptures say. It says for he that says, do not commit adultery, said also, do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if you should kill, you are become a transgressor of the law.



    How does that work? The law represents the holiness of God, His complete holiness. Romans 3:20 says through the law we have the knowledge of sin.



    If I keep the whole law, and yet I violate one law, I have sinned, and I'm less than who God is. Well, that's a no-brainer, right?



    If I think I'm pretty good and I ought to get into heaven because I do pretty good things and I'm not that bad of a person, well, how do I stack-up to God?



    Am I as holy as God is? Well, I wouldn't say that. But that's what a sinner is, somebody who has fallen short of the glory of God.



    And so the commandments were representative of God's holiness. So if you broke one, you're a sinner, you've broken them all, because even one sin, you have fallen short of who God is. And that is how he shows us how sinful we are and what sin is.



    So the emphasis is on the person, not the law. The same person that says thou shalt not commit adultery, also said thou shalt not kill. And if you do one of those things, then you have violated the one who gave the law.

    When we sin, we have sinned against the law giver and that's what makes us guilty of all, no matter how big or small we in our human minds might view sin!
  • Chris - In Reply - 5 years ago
    Page 2.

    This leads me to the second feature. Since no prophet, especially one as esteemed as Jesus, could be put to death (i.e. they had to die naturally & not for reason of crime), it becomes ridiculous to believe that one could die in such manner & also for the sins of mankind. The Quran's teachings regarding salvation are inconsistent. On the one hand, the Quran teaches that salvation is based on purification by performance of good deeds (Surah 7:6-9). A Muslim can become righteous through prayer, almsgiving, fasting, and living according to the Quran. Yet the Quran also teaches that God has predetermined every person's destiny, and one's righteous acts may or may not affect God's decision (Surah 57:22). It teaches that everyone, both the "righteous and the unrighteous", will be led into hell by God, before the righteous will finally enter Heaven (Surah 19:67-72). Therefore no Muslim can know his or her eternal destiny in this life. Even Muhammad himself was unsure of his salvation (Surah 31:34; 46:9).

    Therefore according to the Quran, if men have to account & deal with their own sins, hoping to measure up to God's Standards in the Day of Reckoning, then there is certainly no need for a Saviour to give up His Life for the lives of others. So how does the Bible respond to this? Romans 3:9,10: "for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one." If none are righteous before God, stained with sin, can the guilty sinner do any works that could impress God to remove his sin? If so, how much needs to be done? Will he ever find complete justification before God depending entirely on his efforts? The Muslim would say, "That he has to keep doing whatever God requires of him & he may or may not find salvation at the last day". God tells us that there is nothing a sinner can ever do that will justify himself before God as the one who is inwardly dirty cannot cleanse himself: (see page 3)
  • Adam - In Reply - 5 years ago
    Hi Norman,

    I would just read what God says and ignore what man says. If you click on these or hover over them you'll see what each Bible verse says. It's clear to me what it says and means and is interesting how some others word hard to try to make it mean something else. 1 Peter 5:8

    Matthew 7:14

    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

    James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

    1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    Romans 11

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Matthew 12:31-32

    Romans 14:12

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    People have freewill to choose good or evil:

    Psalms 25:12

    Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

    Psalm 119:30

    Luke 16:13

    Proverbs 3:31

    Fear God:

    Joshua 24:14

    Psalms 25:12

    Proverbs 1:29

    Seek God:

    Psalms 63:1

    "I'm not a bad person". Everyone thinks they're good, including the wicked.

    Romans 3:23

    Mark 10:18
  • Adam - In Reply - 5 years ago
    Hi Perry, are you sure about that? Do you believe that's God's standard- if so, where is your Bible references to back that up- or is that just your own arbitrary standard?

    Jesus said no one is good Mark 10:18, so should I believe your standards over Jesus's?

    Romans 3:12 is another worth considering.

    One of the tactics from satan is to get people to assume they're already good and moral as they are and don't need to make any effort to obey God or Jesus, in fact, many claim they don't need Jesus and certainly don't need to be 'saved'. That is a classic fallacy, which the Bible predicted in advance and already has a clear answer for. It's all in the scripture ready to be read. I believe what God says over what men say.

    God bless...
  • Ronald L Whittemore on Exodus 20 - 5 years ago
    For any who are looking at theories on how it ends. There is a fantastic picture that has been painted and taught since the early 1800s and is taken from Daniel 9:27 to create the last week (7 years). The entire theory and all that is taught that will happen hinges on taking the last week/7 years from this 70-week prophecy.

    This prophecy was determined on Daniel's people (house of Israel) and the holy city (Jerusalem).

    Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    If Jesus fulfilled what was determined in this prophecy, does that make this entire theory and all that is taught in this theory untrue?

    How will it change the picture if the 70th week in the book of Daniel has been fulfilled?

    What is our blessed hope?

    We have been told to study, trust our teacher the Holy Spirit and pray.

    These are the six things that were determined, and a few verses that may help your study.

    1. To finish the transgression ( Isaiah 53:5, 8) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Hebrews 9:15-18)

    2. To make an end of sins ( Matthew 1:21) ( Hebrews 10:8-11) ( John 1:29) ( 1 Corinthians 15:3)

    ( 1 John 3:5) ( Psalm 32) ( Romans 8:3)

    3. To make reconciliation for iniquity ( Colossians 1:20-22) ( Isaiah 53:6) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Ephesians 2:16) ( Titus 2:14) ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-19)

    4. To bring in everlasting righteousness ( Romans 5:17-21) ( Romans 3:21-26) ( 1Peter 2:24)

    ( 2 Corinthians 5:21) ( Isaiah 61:10-11)

    5. To seal up vision and prophecy ( Daniel 9:23) ( John 6:27) ( Mark 1:14-15) ( Acts 3:18)

    ( John 5:36-40) ( Matthew 11:11-15)

    6. To anoint the most holy ( Hebrews 8:1-12) ( Hebrews 9:6-14)

    RLW
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Romans 3:30 - 5 years ago
    Thanks Brother Chris,

    It is amazing that you have the gospel layed out through out the all 66 books.

    John 5:39-40.

    Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

    And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

    HEBREWS 10:7-10.

    Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

    Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

    Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

    By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

    God bless.
  • Chris - In Reply on Romans 3:30 - 5 years ago
    I liked what you wrote brother: "The Jews faith looked ahead. The Gentiles faith looks behind."

    And yet, the faith that they (the Jews) should have had 'looking ahead' was lacking in so many of them. So the Hebrews writer could say "For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them (the Israel under Moses: Hebrews 3 & by extension to the unbelieving Jew of the NT): but the word preached did not profit them, not being MIXED WITH FAITH in them that heard it. ( Hebrews 4:2).

    And that Gospel, even though unknown at that time under Moses as we know it now, was indeed the Gospel, since it had its roots in the sacrificial performances that pointed to Christ Who fulfilled them as God's appointed sacrificial Lamb. Yet those sacrifices (& God's Word) did not profit them because of their lack of faith, just as the Sacrifice of Jesus has no profit to anyone who comes to Him without faith.

    Thank you for those added thoughts, brother.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Romans 3:30 - 5 years ago
    Hi Douglas.

    To add to what Brother Chris has given,

    Romans 3:30. Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the "CIRCUMCISION BY FAITH," and "UNCIRCUMCISION THROUGH FAITH."

    Romans 3:19-20. Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

    Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

    I believe the Jews "BY FAITH " placed there faith in their offerings which pointed towards The Lord, "The sacrifices itself shows you couldn't keep the law."

    The Gentiles place their faith on what has taken place, CRUCIFIXION. Jesus came to fulfill all those sacrifices.

    The Jews faith looked ahead.

    The Gentiles faith looks behind.

    Romans 3:24-25. Being justified freely by his grace "THROUGH" THE REDEMPTION THAT IS IN CHRIST JESUS:

    Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation "THROUGH" FAITH IN HIS BLOOD, TO DECLARE HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS THAT ARE PAST, through the forbearance of God;

    Ephesians 2:8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

    GOD BLESS
  • Chris - In Reply on Romans 3:30 - 5 years ago
    Hello Douglas. I agree, this is an intriguing verse, which seems to show very little difference since justification by God can only be by faith ( Galatians 2:16).

    I think that here, the apostle is showing that what is normally considered a distinction between the Jew & Gentile (the circumcision & the uncircumcision), when the matter of faith in God through Jesus Christ is brought in, both stand before God on equal terms ( Romans 3:22); one has no superiority over the other.

    However, the Jew was given the Law which not only showed him God's holy requirements but also exposed to him his sinfulness because he couldn't keep the Law & please God. That missing attribute - Faith - which justifies ALL men (v28 and Hebrews chapter 11), is needed by the Jew which shows him that it's only BY FAITH & not by the "deeds of the Law" can he be saved. Likewise, to the Gentile who had not the Law, that it is only THROUGH FAITH in the Cross can he be saved. I realize this is a very small distinction between those words and even though I may be wrong, I'm afraid that's the only way I can understand why the apostle expressed it this way.
  • Circumcision in the New Testament Church - In Reply on Romans 3:30 - 5 years ago
    Colossians Chapter 3

    9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

    10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

    11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

    12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

    You are not a Christian because you are or, are not circumcised. You are because you have received Christ. This was an issue in the first century Church; but it should not be an issue now in this day and age.

    To read more verses on just circumcision, go to the SEARCH box on the link page,

    Type in circumcision and hit the arrow.

    The search engine will fetch ALL scriptures about it. That's a lot of reading my friend.

    It was initiated by God to separate Jews from Non-Jews in the Old Testament. In the New Testament the circumcising of the Heart was introduced. It's a heart decision to become a Christian.
  • Douglas hewett on Romans 3:30 - 5 years ago
    why does say ,the circumsion by faith but the uncirmsiom through faith?
  • Lauren - In Reply on Romans 3 - 5 years ago
    Wow, this really blessed me, thank you Chris. I will read the chapters again carefully,

    taking note of what you've said. Thank you!
  • Curley Manning - In Reply on Psalms 70 - 5 years ago
    Dear Sir,

    My heart aches with you at this time. I am so sorry that you have lost the love of your life.

    God promises to comfort and help you, if you know Christ Jesus as your Lord and Savior and he always keeps his promises.

    *Nothing or no one can separate you from His love ( Romans 31:39).

    He is the God of all comfort ( 2 Corinthians 1:3-4).

    He heals the brokenhearted ( Psalm 147:3).

    He promises to help you & uphold you by his mighty power ( Isaiah 41:10, 13).

    His help is present & abundantly available and He will never leave nor abandon you ( Psalm 46:1; Hebrews 13:5-6).

    He gives extra strength when we are weary ( Isaiah 40:26-31).

    May you trust in Him and rely upon his promises.

    Love in Christ,

    Mrs. Curley Manning

    Salvation Scriptures:

    there is none righteous, no not one ( Romans 3:10).



    all have sinned and fall short of God's glory ( Romans 3:23).

    the wages of sin is death, but God's gift is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. ( Romans 6:23).

    whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved ( Romans 10:13).


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