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Without the spirit of God in us, we will be living naked without worrying about our nakedness and without any worry as if we were not short of glory.

I am not less of a sinner than anyone else, I am the biggest sinner that I know, and so is every sinner. We all need to accept Jesus Christ as our Saviour, and have faith in Jesus Christ alone (thereby forsaking all hopeless attempts at our own self-righteousness to gain entrance into Heaven). This verse goes well together with Romans 3:10 which reads "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:".

We have all sins from the very beginning through Adam but we are justified by faith through Christ Jesus.

I would like to focus on verses 23 and 24; Saying But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. Precisely God is looking for a true worshipper in this scenario, who will worship him in Spirit and Truth. So many people believed and worship God, Praising God but they don't know if whom they are worshipping. Here God stated that we must have the qualifications that God wants to see. Verse 24; God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. It is true that God is Spirit that is a fact 1+1=11. Being Spirit, He doesn't have a body, doesn't have a blood, a bone, even flesh meaning God is invisible, we cannot see him but we can feel him. Being He is the TRUTH this is the power of God to forgive on our sins, to save us from our sins without accepting the process of God for salvation then we cannot enter into the Kingdom of God which John 3:5 stated. Unless a man is born of water & of Spirit he cannot enter into God's Kingdom. Because our destiny actually is for damnation in hell, once you died you are already judged ( Hebrews 9:27). And there is NO MORE HOPE for salvation to our SOUL, because we are all BORN SINNERS according to ( Psalms 55:1, Romans 3: 10,23) and the wages of sins is death. We will all die in flesh and some of will all die Spiritually in hell if they don’t repent. The only remedy is to accept Jesus Christ in Baptism bacause this is His command before ascending in heaven that he commanded his disciples to baptize all nation in his name ( Acts 2:38-39). That is the reason that God seeketh a TRUE WORSHIPPER WHO WILL WORSHIP HIM WITHOUT SEEING ANYTHING because God is Spirit. God bless you all. Jesus loves us!

Paul always writes like I think is sound.

@Bell,
On Luke 7:36-50:
1. Speaking of the difference between a self righteous religious leader who is mostly interested in proselyting good decent people that do not realize they are sinners in need of a saviour and a person that realizes that they are unrighteous sinner that knows they cannot cleanse themselves from being a sinner without a saviour;
2. The anointing with alabaster box of ointment is a picture of a sacrifice of repentance ( 1 John 1:9);
3. The women here being called a sinner ( John 9:31) by the Pharisee is most likely a reference to her actions, not just a person born into sin (as all humans are Romans 3:10,23), she is most likely a prostitute;
4. The parable of the creditor and two debtors validate this event between the Pharisee and the woman of low reputation;
5. Most people who get saved from a life of being a decent person do not seem to appreciate what they received through salvation as persons who get saved from a life of unlawful activity;
6. John 18:9-14, the Pharisee and the publican are on the same moral fortitude.

I "DO" know this: JEHOVAH GOD spoke "verbally" three things to me during the trial. In 1 John 4:1, I found it to be a spiritual warfare. I was "not" prepared. It took me to the edge of sanity, a battle in the mind that produced visible revelation.
1. Louvenia, who comes to ME and reasons with ME or persuade ME that I may change my mind;
2. Louvenia, who decides between you (man) and ME (GOD HIMSELF) who is right or who is wrong;
3. HE said to me: you go to your director and he tells you something, then your co-worker tells you something else, now you change your mind with new information. JEHOVAH GOD said, look I know "all" things. I AM ALMIGHTY GOD, no one can come to ME and tell ME anything I do not already know. This is why I do not change my mind/break a promise. The spiritual warfare left me undecided toward life, knowing that ALL things are in subjections to ALMIGHTY GOD approval. So NO, NO, NO, if men believe or do not believe, I believe this does not move GOD to break HIS promise or HIS will. Trust me, By faith! I requested death (cursed! myself), in order to separate myself from the very thing I was in the midst of. Only to awake! And find myself instructed and repositioned, in that very thing! I was in the midst of 1 John 4:1 Spiritual warfare. I personally found that death did not separate me from ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH GOD, because I knew what death is.

Verse 32 reminds me of the day we all stand before the Lord Jesus Christ and if we didn't accept Him as our Saviour, then we will say bless me too Lord Jesus and He will depart from us as God departed from Egypt in verse 41. So the Lord lay on my heart to any that don't know that you are going to Heaven when you die to read Romans 3:10; 3:23; 5:8; 5:12; 6:23, and 10:9-13. Ask the Lord Jesus into your heart and tell someone what you did. Put God first in your life and ask God for wisdom, to grow from reading the Word of God . Find a faithful Church that serves the Lord Jesus Christ with all their heart.

When you’re born again Romans 10:9-10, you have the faith of Jesus Christ, after that it is by believing, the word faith is Greek word Pistis, in the grace administration which covers Romans through to Thessalonians, most of usages of faith should be translated believing, 2 Timothy 2:15.

In response to Kenneth on verse 30. By faith is one acting upon and through faith is believing. Look at Hebrews 11. All of them acted by faith, then in verse 11 Sara just believed through faith.

Faith in Jesus Christ Who Is God; many say they have faith in God but not in Jesus as Savior. When asked whom I believe in I always say in Christ alone. Yes I believe in the Trinity and almighty God, Son and Holy Spirit. Ask someone sometime when they say they believe in God. You may find they do not believe in Jesus and God's Holy word. Romans 3 spells out very clearly who we are before we get saved and who we are after we get saved. I pray for all true bible believing Christians especially as we see the end approaching.

To Kenneth on 9/23/2011, the words 'by' and 'through' are prepositions used synonymously in Romans 3:30. It doesn't matter if we are Jew or Gentile, faith in God is what ultimately counts.

Read Frenz's Comment on Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 10:9-10, 13, Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:3 Acts 4:12, Acts 16:16-40 (v31).

Matthew, let me share something with you. We've all made mistakes in life and we all experience some level of guilt and fear of judgment. But let me tell you that Jesus Christ shed his blood on the cross to pay for all your sins. We can never have joy and fulfillment in life just by having good morals and following rules, because we still fall short of God's perfect standard ( Romans 3:23). The peace that we all seek is found in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary ( Romans 5:8). Place your faith fully in Him to forgive you of your past, present, and future sins. Salvation from Hell can only be found when we come to the realization that we are hopeless and helpless apart from God's saving grace. Call on him for Salvation as Romans 10:13 admonishes - "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved". Then you can have freedom from sin and condemnation as Romans 8:1 tells us - "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus". If you have any questions about these comments, please ask. I want everyone to know the peace that Christ brings. "Matthew's Matthew Chapter 19 comment on 6/29/2012, 1:26am... I will admit I am afraid of judgment because I've made mistakes in my life. I can't remember everything but I wish I could take back many of the hurtful things I've said. I have accepted God into my life but my family does not know I have. I have good morals and follow rules and I do not want to go to Hell but I am still afraid..."

i thank God for the book of romans i say that because it let me know who i am and if it wasnt for hes grace and redemption that is in Christ Jesus that i would be on my way to hell God is so great i share this words because God is so real everything about him !!!!!!!!!!

I can't express myself well because of language barrier. However, I knew our sin was washed by Jesus when we believed him as he was died on the cross with bleeding himself. Therefore, we have no more sin with his blood when we agree him as our savor. We have throw all of our self esteem, our will or concentration of the life of flesh and the present life in order to belive him at once. As soon as throw our self conconsciousness to be a good believer or perfect believer, we would be easy to get into Jesus. I think myself always was interrupted to be a good believer. Also Satan never allow us to close to the cross and believing Jesus. He may allow all of other things except this issue. I recognized after I read Romans 1-3, believing is simple and God will take away our sin --not by our effort, we will be clean after I agree to him as he died for us. The Jesus came and we, foreigners were saved. He completed his work for us. We only believe him frist and study more about Bible and obey what he said, I think. Hope my English was understandble to you. As long as we believe in Jesus, he took our sin away, we would save and we would be brothers and sisters in him through him. God bless you. Thanks.

I'm a practising Christian. I regard myself as having 'signed up' at some point in my past, and attend a boisterous CofE church. But in my darkest moments of doubt it occurs to me how absolute is the vision of Man in these words. Christians want nothing short of perfection (for themselves and unfortunately sometimes of others). How can we, human-all-too-human beings use that vision in our daily lives without an huge subconcious arrogance. Sometimes it seems I become aware of that secret arrogance and flip over into the most morbid thoughts of isolation and worthlessness in immense cold Universe. In that state I watch myself gradually return to a smug forgetfulness of the intuition. Yes, I have sinned/do sin. Yes, I ask forgiveness. But what rings most true to me is Jeremiah 17:9.

I disagree with the people who says we all siners because we are living in sinfull world. Romans 3:24 it says we are being justified freely from sin by his grace through the redemption that is in christ jesus.We have sin because Adam and Eve,but bible says if we confirs our sins he is faithful and just to forgive our sins.God have mercy and his mercy,The reason he sent his only son is that we must repent,Jesus came for us to be saved.may God help us. from sidwell

Who can claim to be a sinless person while still living in this sinful world? God's eternal word declares that we have all (including Pastor, Bishop, Clerg, Papa,Elder, Reverand & church member) have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23

in rom.3:30. what is the difference between being justifide by faith and justifide through faith

Belief isn't necessary to Receive Grace. Nor is a man's unbelief enough to slacken the promise and faith of God.

The Bible is not a Law Book for the purpose of beating people over their heads.

Ye must be perfect. Nothing less. Perfection is a judicial imputation from God the Father to anyone who believes or agrees with the Gospel. There's nothing mystical about faith. In regard to salvation, it is to simply agree with God's report. Of course the stakes are high. We should understand our destiny beyond time is the issue.

Why do so many complicate "faith". Again, it is nothing more than agreement with information that you cannot prove empirically.

Once we believe or agree with the Gospel, God imputes judicial righteousness to us. We are the equivalent of someone who never broker the law. It is an oxymoron of grace. We are judicially perfect, yet still a sinner.

Lay aside the lies of "election" according to Calvin. Lay aside the lie that salvation is an ongoing process involving our works and sacrifices.

The work is done. It is finished. Sin is dead to the extent of penalty, spiritual death. Certainly, we don't have the license to sin, to take advantage of God's grace. But, when we do sin, by acknowledging our sins, God the Father is faithful and just to forgive us and to restore fellowship.

The faith of Jesus is the righteousness of God. If we believe God, through Jesus Christ, that the Word of God is true, then we are given the power by way of His Spirit to become children of God. The heart has to be converted. Remember, we are saved by Grace through Faith (I believe this is the Faith of Jesus). My faith has no power to save anyone, much less myself. I have to believe God and it will show by what I do. Faith is in Jesus. Christ is everything!! To receive Jesus is to receive His Word because He is the Word. If we don't feed on Jesus, there is no life (eternal). We feed on Jesus by reading and studying His Word and then by putting it into practice, which shows we believe. We pray to God, by way of Jesus with faith, believing that we receive Grace by what we believe. The two main requirements for salvation is to believe and repent. If we don't turn away from sin, then we don't believe and we know what happens to those who continue in sin or those who turn back to sin.
Gotta go!

Romans is the dynamite of God. It tells us what we were, what we are, and what we shall be. If you have a strong knowledge of Romans, you WILL stay strong in the LORD. Read it, mediate upon it, believe it, and REMEMBER what it says. Use it to lead others to Christ. Rom. 10:17

This is where God commanded Adam And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Before I begin let me say that God hath made 7 dispensation meaning God made different time of salvation and for every time, there was salavtion as I explain thru the knowledge of God wherein God commanded Adam to freely eat all the fruits in the garden, but the tree of knowledge of good and evil thou shalt not eat of it, for in the day you eat of it, you will surely die.

So man disobeyed God when they eat the fruit of good and evil they died on that day because 1,000 years is ONE DAY FOR THE LORD. But before God remove them from the garden, He didn't let them go out without changing their dress, God put them with a SKIN OF ANIMALS which is the SKIN of the LAMB, THE TYPE AND SHADOWS TO COME, meaning this is where God will take place his salvation to mankind. The SKIN OF THE LAMB represent the BLOOD OF CHRIST to be SHED UPON (Heb.9:22) Without shedding of blood there is no remission of sin.

The Skin covering of Adam & Eve representing what God will do to remove the CURSE (DEATH) which came into the world by ONE MAN, and so SIN entered the world, and DEATH passeth to ALL MEN, for ALL HAVE SIN. ( Romans 5:12) We are all BORN SINNERS IN THE SIGHT OF GOD ( Psalms 51:5) There is none righteous, no not anyone in the sight of God. ( Romans 3:10)

The only solution for this CURSE that we INHERITED IS THRU RECONCILIATION BY OBEDIENCE THRU GOD'S WORD, THRU IMMERSION BY BAPTISM IN WATER IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF OUR SINS, AND YOU SHALL RECEIEVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. ( Acts 2:38-39), wherein you will clothed with Christ, and we will be buried thru his death thru baptism, that is why Galacians 3:27= All have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Because there is only ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, and ONE BAPTISM (Ephessians 4:5) There is only ONE GOD and he is the ALPHA, the OMEGA the BEGINNING and END ( Revelation 1:8)
He is the IMAGE OF THE INVICIBLE GOD ( Colossians 1:15) He is the ONE True GOD that was manifest in the FLESH ( 1 Timothy 3;16) He is the True God and eternal LIFE ( 1 John 5:20) And He will be SOON COMING IN THE CLOUDS FOR HIS BRIDE (The Church) Titus 2:13) ( Matthew 16:18-19) For there is no other name in heaven whereby we must be saved ( Acts 4:12) He is the messiah that the Israelites until now still waiting for Him to come, but doesnt understand this Messiah is already came back to heaven in His throne as God Spirit ( John 4:24) To God be the glory in Jesus Christ name, amen.

Godbless you all

In response to Doug.
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Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Romans 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

good place(but obviously not the only place) to get the fundamentals of the christian faith; the
faith that saves. by this understanding i was led
to know god through the blood of jesus. praise god.

My 18 years old prayer request is that the Christian believers from everywhere, some day will understand from Gal.2:16,2:20,3:22-26 as well from Romans 3:22,26 with which faith we have Salvation and in which faith we are living in righteousness in front of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ. For sure with (by) faith OF Christ, Noτ by faith in Christ, as is written in original Greek Textus Receptus, but unfortunately very wrong translated as faith in Christ in most languages. Only the King James and some other English translations are giving correct meaning of this most important bible verse together with only one correct translation from Slavic languages in Serbian Vuk-Danicic translation, and Latin Vulgata and in Spanish Rheina Vallera version. When the Christian preachers and pastors will learn much more Greek language, then they will spread in correct way the Good News of Gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus. Amen

First of all, I do not want to take away the main point of the gospel, which is to point the way to salvation through Jesus Christ, the Son of God. We should not try to alter the Bible by telling God what we think He meant. Read Acts 17:26--we are one blood. The human race is one race. Eve is the mother of all living, and through Adam we all receive our sin nature. The Bible says in Romans 3:4 that God's truth is true no matter who says otherwise. And in I Cor. 1:25 we read that God's foolishness is wiser than man's wisdom.
It is no stretch of the imagination for me to believe that Adam and Eve's children married each other. The gene pool was perfect in the beginning. You read of Abram marrying Sarai, his father's daughter. God had not yet given the laws to Moses restricting close relationship marriages.
When you get right down to it we are all related to each other, like it or not. That doesn't say we should go out and marry our siblings or cousins now. It is a bigger stretch of the imagination for me to think that God created other humans at the same time he created Adam and Eve.
And the subraces were not created as such; they developed over time through natural selection and genetic characteristics.

The bible says that the local church and his word would last FOREVER. Last time I checked, we still have his word, and we still have the local church! How could you say that the bible isn't overly religious? Have you ever read it? If you truly obeyed and followed the bible (all of it), you would be sinless. We see in the bible in romans 3:23 that we are filthy sinners. Also Derek, 12 books of the bible are devoted to history, which over and over, have been proven.
The son of Hamass went from a son of a terrorist, helping the mass murder of thousands, to a U.S. tourist touring the country spreading the good news of god's word! What happened?? He claims he was invited to a bible study right after he got let go from prison. He converted to a christian! Why? The bigger question is why would he? The muslim (no--caps!) religion rules that the family must disown him and they must never see each other again if a family member converts to Christianity. So, why? The truth you will find over and over is god's word changes lives. What did cari say? The bible was written by 44 men in the course of 1,100 years. That is impossible for men, who were all over the world when they wrote the books, to all write the same message without contradictions! What I am trying to say is that Clearly, God's word was inspired (GOD BREATHED) through the apostles. If you have proof otherwise please write and I would be glad to look at it! Make sure you don't take verses out of context though!