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The text mentioned here Ro.3:10 is misquoting the Hebrew scriptures. In fact paul is removing words from the Hebrew scriptures and adding his own words.

Ro. 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 13Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

Psa 14:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

there is no mention of a "righteous" person in the first 3 verses of Psa. 14. IF you were to read this in its CONTEXT you will see that this chapter is talking about "FOOLISH PEOPLE". Its NOT stating that there are no righteous people on earth, for I can give you close to 100 passages that show there are, but that there is no good in the FOOL that has said in his heart, "There is no GOD".

read it like this,

Psa 14:1 "The fool" hath said in his heart, There is no God. They "The fool" are corrupt, they "The fool" have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."The fool"

2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men "The fool", to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They "The fool" are all gone aside, they "The fool" are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. "The fool"

IF there were no righteous men why did the writer write the words of verse 5?

Psa 14:5 There were they "the fool" in great fear: for God is in >>>the generation of the righteous.

I believe that many Christians truly love God. What I don't understand is why most Christians believe that the Sabbath is done away with or that it is Sunday. The other nine commandments are fine, so why omit this one that identifies God as creator, Lord and owner of the universe? The idea that we are no longer under law just does not cut it. No society, nothing in nature, nothing mechanic can operate without laws.Without law there would be no grace . Therefore if someone were to say we are no longer under law, how do we get grace? The Law! If you are speeding on the road and is stopped by an officer to get a ticket, it is because you have broken the law. If you beg or he decides to give you a chance this time, that's grace, based on him giving you a chance because you broke the law. Some texts to consider

Romans 3: 31

Romans 6:15

Romans 7:7

Exudos 20: 8-11

James 2:10

Revelations 22:14

For more information about how Sabbath worship was changed to Sunday, visit the Roman Catholic website. God bless you dear reader.

To ADAM

Must have been too busy and corrected a few typos. Sorry about that!

He that committeth sin of the devil; for the devil (your natural spirit) sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God, doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God ( 1 John 3:8,9).

The following is an excerpt from the Article 'What is Sin of the book 'A World Deceived'.

'Sin is not just an act such as prostitution , alcoholism, adultery or a drug addiction, as the spirit of this world has made you believe but is the fruit of every man, woman and child ( Romans 3:9; Galatians 3:22).

For the purpose of this article and to give mankind a better understanding of the title of this article, we would like to add the words 'abortion' and 'homosexuality' as another act.

Sin is often referred to in the Bible in the same context as Satan, and his servants are therefore also described as the servants of sin ( John 8:34). Sin is the natural state a person is born in and his/her whole being is sinful. It is the fruit of the natural body.

As such, every person is separated from the true and living God and under the power of Satan. Religion or any form of Baptism does not change that and is a form of self-transformation of the natural body. This is how Satan has transformed himself into an angel of light ( 2 Corinthians 11:14).

He (Christ) also informed them that they were not of God ( John 8:43-47). Remember now that they truly thought that they knew God and that they worshipped him in truth, but when He dwelt amongst them they crucified Him, as they could not believe His message of repentance ( 1 Corinthians 2:14) and did not like it that He convinced them that they were sinners and that they lived under the power of sin (Satan).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

To ADAM

He that committeth sin of the devil; for the devil (your natural spirit) sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God, doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God (1:3:8,9).

The following is an excerpt from the Article 'What is Sin of the book 'A World Deceived'.

'Sin is not just an act such as prostitution , alcoholism, adultery or a drug addiction, as the spirit of this world has made you believe but is the fruit of every man, woman and child ( Romans 3:9; Gal. 3:22).

For the purpose of this article and to give mankind a better understanding of the title of this article, we would like to add the words 'abortion' and 'homosexuality' as another act.

Sin is often referred to in the Bible in the same context as Satan, and his servants are therefore also described as the servants of sin ( John 8:34). Sin is the natural state a person is born in and his/her whole being is sinful. It is the fruit of the natural body.

As such, every person is separated from the true and living God and under the power of Satan. Religion or any form of Baptism does not change that and is a form of self-transformation of the natural body. This is how Satan has transformed himself into an angel of light ( 2 Cor. 11:14).

He also informed them that they were not of God ( John 8:43-47). Remember now that they truly thought that they knew God and that they worshipped him in truth, but when He dwelt amongst them they crucified Him, as they could not believe His message of repentance ( 1 Cor. 2:14) and did not like it that He convinced them that they were sinners and that they lived under the power of sin (Satan).

Seek, and ye shall find 9Matthew 7:7)

In His Seed.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

Romans 3:23

1 John 1:8

Matthew 5:28

MATTHEW 18:21-22

This is a common point of confusion among believers. The scriptures above say everyone sins. This includes Christians. Paul himself struggled with sin, not his past, but sins of present and temptations: Romans 7:15-20. If Paul, one of the pioneers of Christianity admits to that, what are the odds someone else is without sin. Zero. Jesus was the only perfect being who never sinned on Earth. If you're following Jesus your sins are forgiven by the debt He paid on the cross (grace), but that doesn't mean you're not sinning. Some people think a miracle happens or history is rewritten, no, you can even continue to suffer the consequences of that sin but still be forgiven. There are lots of ways to sin and Christians probably unknowingly sin every day, whether impure thoughts, lust, dishonesty, bad thoughts towards someone. But Jesus challenges us to be perfect, to strive to be pure, to not follow the world. This differs from a new teaching from satan which is spreading around Christians that claims that it's impossible for Christians to sin, therefore enjoy yourself, follow the world if you want, because it doesn't matter. That talk is contrary to what Jesus said and is straight from the devil. We're supposed to strive to avoid sin just like Paul, and when we mess up , confess and ask for forgiveness, but don't beat ourselves up about it either as long as we're following and pursuing Jesus our sins are forgiven. God bless...

I very much agree with what you are portraying brother. What I feel is that the Ten Commandments are good a, simple, guideline for us. Of coarse we have all already sinned and come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23. Jesus Christ is our one and only saviour sent by our Father. Even though we will still probably all make mistakes it seems good to me to have some good guidelines to at least go by in the evil world we live in. To make our Father happy as surely none of them are bad things or that we can't easily fulfill by just using a bit of self control. Still as I can say a parable where one would have to choose between disobeying a Commandment or following the Will of God. How we need the Holy Spirit gifted to us as our teacher. Just as you said though. Our Fathers love is so great in that He has already given the perfect sacrifice for all sins. Also as said it is all of a power not of my own. Something else that makes our Father happy is producing good fruit of the Holy Spirit. As I'm sure there are much better people in the world, than me, that have done many more good things. I take no credit for anything good I've ever done. I am forever thankful. Glory be to our Father.

As praying for everyone feels right. The people who do right and them that do wrong. As the Lord has taught me to love all. As in Luke 6:35 :"for He(our Father) is kind unto the unthankful and the evil." Praise the Lord Jesus Christ and our Perfect Father! God Bless you brother.

I know that feeling of reluctance. It happens when you feel you do not know enough scripture to give it out with confidence. That's why it says "study to show yourself approved.." 1,2,3, John are a good place to start; then in The Book of John 3. All of the Gospels.

A lot of people set aside a certain time every day to spend 1 hour reading. Sometimes it helps to turn off tv. Ask the Holy Spirit to help you hide the Word in your heart and to help you understand what you are reading. He is your Helper. If you are born again; you were baptized in the Holy Spirit. He's with you. Try talking to Him more.

If people want to confess their sins to you, just steer them to 1 John 1:9. Jesus is their Priest.

We do this because Jesus loved us first; before we found Him and learned how to show him our love.

People see the Light and Love of Jesus, shining in your face. They may want that too.

I began to evangelize a few months after being saved. (Real rough around the edges) I was outside a bar I used to go to. Friends stumbled out the door: I had my Bible and said repent, you're all going to hell. They laughed and said...we know!! And continued to their cars. I went home dejected. Laid my head on the Bible. Jesus softly, Are you done doing it your way? I said YES SIR!!! LORD.

He showed me how to consume scripture and then how to pray. Honestly, the Holy Spirit will help you. I have had so much fun! Nobody wants to be hollered at. Jesus brings those who are ready, to us.

Jesus prayed for us in John 17. If you pray to the Lord of the Harvest, He wii lead you to those who are ready to hear.

First things first, my sister. You have a lot on your mind. Let's pray for order to be restored. Everything else will fall into place.

Put the Lord first, and the favor will follow.

It means return to your first love when you First met Jesus. The scripture is in Revelation 2:4

Just compare your life today to those first days when you asked Jesus to come in your heart. You read your Bible. You asked the Holy Spirit to help you understand what you have read. He's your Teacher, and the Spirit of Jesus; your Comforter; your Convictor when you make mistakes, your Helper. He's here for you. Just pray this prayer to return to your first Love:

Lord, after what I've read today, I don't want to allow any spirit of compromise in my life! I now understand that the doctrine of the Nicolaitans is compromise with the world. Lord, I don't want to live with one foot in the church and another foot in the world. I want to break free completely from the world and its influence so I can give myself completely to Your cause! I want to be holy, to live in a way that pleases You, and to experience Your power in my life. Today I am renewing my commitment to You all over again! I turn from the world, and I am running to You!

I pray this in Jesus' name! Amen :)

People who love each other, talk to one another every day. Open up and ask for your needs (not wants). If money, figure it down to the penny. If ideas come into your mind...it might be Jesus. Talk to Him. He listens to speech of faith. I happen to know that He likes to hear us sing and hum gospel tunes. Put him first and everything else will fall in behind him.

Mishael

Laurie, this is the way to be released from things which trouble your peace:

Mark 11:25

And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

How many times? Until that memory loses its power to trouble you.

I pray, that as you pray, that you will once again find your peace of mind and spirit.

Ecclesiastes 3:1 says: to every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven. Read verses 2-8. This season will come to a close if you will trust in what God says here.

It's the forgiving that makes this whole thing work. You'll not feel like doing this. It's an act of obedience and faith in Gods Word to us. Just like me, you'll wake up one day, and all that hate and discomfort of mind...will be peaceful.

God's love will point you in the right direction but it's your choice ask God for help pray and pray remember you are God's servant. bless you.

My dear friend pray to your father Jesus. Many Christians don't receive because they don't ask stand in you faith repent you sins he will answer you.trust in him don't stop praising him amen. God bless.

Prayer for divine closure on the abuse, oppression and everything that depleted and drained me. No more suffering and exhaustion! Divine Rejuvenation, retribution, Deliverance, freedom and lacking nothing by The Spirit of God- In the name of Jesus!

Wanda

Please pray for the well being of America. Our nation needs healing and revival. Pray that God looks beyond our faults and see our need. Praise God for the manisfestation!

I need a breakthrough in my finances, I have a lot bills to pay and not enough income. Find a safe place to live with my dog, something I can afford. Be able to sell all my items from my EBay store in order to pay bills (gas utility etc) Healing in my emotions.

I need help looking to God through Christ with my heart, loving him, obeying---surrendering thus help others. Please pray for me, many have asked me for help and I have not given them.

Romans 3:31 is a great verse but looking at what Paul said earlier, i.e. "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference" (3:20-22).

A few things here: Paul was speaking to all there (both Jew & Gentile converts) yet some stumbled on this matter, particularly from Jewry who were once under the Law & were circumcised, which marked them as God's chosen. To those still applying the Law to their lives & putting themselves under it, are obliged to keep all the Law ( Galatians 5:3). And "whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." ( James 2:10). But the Law was given to Israel, not only as God's Standard of living for them, but to show them that they couldn't keep the Law, rather they fell far short of it. Hence, each year animal sacrifice was made to cover those sins. But after Jesus' death & resurrection, those who come by faith to Him are no longer bound to the Law, as God's Gift to us was the only One to have fully kept (& fulfilled) its Holy demands.

So Paul makes a clear distinction: either you keep the whole Law & by it you will be judged: "as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law" ( Romans 2:12), or you take hold of God's Righteousness which comes by faith in Christ. There's no possibility of fusing the two together for they oppose each other. "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace" ( Galatians 5:4). So the observance of the Sabbath day was a hallmark of Israel & they faithfully observed it. To make the Sabbath observance mandatory now means that we are no longer in the liberty of Christ but in bondage ( Galatians 5:1).

Hi Sandra,

The best possible way to have a better understanding about which day is the right one and why most people go to church on Sunday, is to go back to the book of Daniel. Understand the kingdoms of Babylon, Medo Persia, Greece, Rome and how the activities of the "little horn" that has a mouth and eyes and speaking blasphemy against the Most High.

What is blasphemy? Mark 2:7 "Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?"

The little horn according to Daniel 7:25 - "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."

According to Exodus 20, the 4 commandment "Remember to keep the seventh day holy..." Exodus 20:8-11. The commandment has not changed, even Paul solidifies the same in the new testament, "we establish the law" Romans 3:31.

The little horn has usurped the prerogatives of God and in doing so he established his day, Sunday, as the day of his authority. The last day deception will be about the day of worship. Those who love God, & His law, will choose Saturday Sabbath as the day of His authority, but those who choose the devil's representative here on earth (the anti Christ) will choose Sunday sabbath (as they call it) as the day of his authority. It all boils down to in whom we rest (sabatismos), come what may. Even at the risk of losing our lives we trust the One who is able to resurrect us from death, Matthew 10:39

My adult daughter keeps calling me a liar when I am not lying..My husband and grand daughter know I am not lying..Because my adult daughter wishes to control everyone she says I lie..We have given her proof she still won't believe..I am beside myself. We used to be close but not sadly we have this thing ( really not sure) between us..I am baffled :(

Shalom,Carmelo,

We repent to be saved from our sins since we are all sinners ie born into sinful World

Romans 3:23.

First you must agree with God about your sin:

Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool ( Isaiah 1:18).

Then your sin must be paid for.

You have no way to pay the penalty.

The Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ , willingly submitted his sinless body and blood to die on the cross to pay the price to deliver sinners from sin, death, and Hell (see Romans 3:24-28).

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved ( Acts 16:31).

He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy ( Proverbs 28:13)

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness ( 1 John 1:9).

Romans 3:25

Says Christ died for sins Past

So we avoid sins future by living in obedience and confession of sins if needed .

Otherwise we could be living a life of sanctioned sin and that will never be approved of God .

We can also help those in error and cover a multitude of sins by loving them and helping them rather than judging them alone . Not easily done . People can go into apostasy , by ignoring obedience and continuing in sin .

The mark of a Christian is obedience, but false teaching can cause some to go astray into sin .

We believers still bear the corrupt heart and mind of our old fleshly nature. As Paul said in Romans 7:24, "O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?"

But then in verse 25, "I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."

It is Jesus Christ which delivers us from our own self. If we are sorely tempted, doubting ourselves, we must remember that our assurance of salvation is based on the pure righteousness of Jesus, freely bestowed on us that believe. We don't deserve it, never did, never could. That is the wonder of grace. His grace and mercy is boundlessly greater than all our sin.

We have the power and authority by the Holy Ghost to cast down imaginations and bring thoughts into captivity to the obedience of Jesus Christ ( 2 Corinthians 10:3-5). We may not always prevent vile thoughts, but we can refuse to entertain them.

One necessary step to gain a victory here is found in Romans 12:1-2, "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."

The LORD wants us to be filled with the Spirit ( Ephesians 5:17-21).

Philippians chapter 4 has much to set our hearts and minds aright. In particular, verse 8 gives us the whatsoevers we should resolve to think about: things true, things honest, things just, things pure, things lovely, things of good report, any virtue, any praise.

Also the book of Psalms is commendable for promoting right thinking and can be read one a day to good benefit.

@ Joyce B. Many are going through varied pains and suffering, both mental and physical, from sinful thoughts to losing faith and having to struggle to regain who we want to be in having a close or closer relationship with God. The great upheaval in the world right now is causing fear and confusion among so many. Sometimes, as humans it is easier to run away from reality into dark corners to seek solace, only to fail and fall.

Sincere advice. Seek council of a trusted 'bible based' pastor. (they can talk on the phone or email, if you can not leave your house) Be honest about what you are dealing with, so they can pray with you and give firm council. Rid yourself of anything in your house that is causing this trouble/temptaion and do not turn it on again, buy it again, etc. Once it's gone, let it be gone. If your health is good, consider fasting for a few days and stay in prayer. Talk with God, so you are not alone when these thoughts come to trouble your heart. Walk, exercise, clean.

God Bless and prayers are with you.

I have been having very intrusive sinful thoughts. I have prayed and prayed. Sometimes I wonder where is GOD for me! I don't even have assurance of salvation or heaven anymore. Can someone pray for me or help me to understand?

When the sermons make you feel that you are a bad person, that is the Holy Spirit convicting you of your need for Jesus Christ as your Savior. The Bible says plainly that we are all sinners. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us in that while we were yet sinners, Jesus Christ died for us. Admit to God your sinful state, believe in your heart that Jesus, God's son, sacrificed himself for you on the cross, and ask Jesus to come into your life as Savior and Lord. I will be praying for you.

Chris,

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e / f / g) Again, I agree with you that Christ came to fulfill the Law.

However, I believe that the "Law" was the blood (and certain ceremonial) "ordinances" Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:20, that His blood on the cross made acceptable "once for all" Hebrews 10:10. As Matthew 5:18 states; "till ALL be fulfilled."

ALL has not been fulfilled yet. The rest of the Law stands.

I try my best to follow the Law. However I look at Romans 3:28 and Romans 7:5-6 in this way:

What sets us apart from the Law is our ability to be forgiven (no longer through blood sacrifice by a priest on an altar) but through Jesus. Forgiveness has to do with sin. I don't need forgiveness if I have not sinned. Sin has to do with BREAKING THE LAW. Forgiveness is what leads to redemption, and EVERYONE needs forgiveness EVERYDAY. When we sin we put ourselves under the Law; I don't see how we can't.

The following of the LAW and the doing of good WORKS will lead us straight into the GRACE of God and His only Begotten.

I will send you the Enoch calendar info. on another page

Exit Questions and go to the Community Area and click on steps to become a Christian. If you want to be sure...this the way we all had to go. Taking communion without being a Christian and not forgiving people who've hurt you, can heap condemnation on you.

Just follow the steps. This website actually has a brown box out on the entry page you can click on(today)

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If you feel compelled to take your first step towards God, you can do that right now wherever you are.

1. Acknowledge the Problem: We have all sinned, and that sin separates us from God

No matter how good you think you are, no matter how many good things you try to do, it is still not good enough to get into heaven; it can't be earned but is a gift.

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23

"And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness; all these evil things come from within, and defile the man." Mark 7:20-23

2. Discover the Solution: Jesus

The only way for God to bridge the gap between Himself and us is through His Son, Jesus Christ. His death was a substitute for us; He paid the penalty for our sins.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

"For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God." I Peter 3:18

"Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is no other name under Heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12

You need to get another Bible with center of the page reference columns. Each alphabet or number refers to another scripture that adds more illumination to the first. Some are current to that time or they are prophetic (future). You have to get what you need to study these things deeper. Sometimes you have to buy reference books. I highly recommend a large print encyclopedia with a full concordance. Try AbeBooks to get previously owned. Google them.

Here is a few on Leviticus

16:5 see Lev 4:14, Numbers 29:11, 2 Chron. 29:21, Ezra 6:17, Ezekiel 45:22

16:8. See chapter 9:7, Hebrews 7:27-28

16:9 see Proverbs 16:33

16:10 see Isaiah 53:4-10, Romans 3:25,

2 Corinthians 5:21, 1 John 2:2

At the end of all that you will see that Jesus was the Scapegoat for us. He has already made atonement for us.

You're going to have to look this all up and then ask THE HOLY SPIRIT to teach you what it means today. He's your Teacher.

It means prayer on your part, and turning off all racket to sit quietly before the Lord for answers. You will be amazed at what you learn. Psalm 63:6 and Proverbs 8:34

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 10: 9-10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and thy shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Verse 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. I pray the Lord will reveal Himself in a mighty way. Holy Spirit please bless. In Jesus name. Amen

The Bible says the opposite. All have sinned, except Jesus. Romans 3:23.