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We are saved not by the law works but by the grace that Jesus by his blood has given to us therefore we are the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus

Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh The holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and these three are one For there are three that bear record in heaven the Father the Word In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the Word was God and The Holy Ghost and these Three are one

This very verse of the Scripture Romans 3 23 is actualy refering to that man woman who has not accepted Jesus as Lord and Saviour according to Romans10 9 and 10 Why do we need to come to God through Christ Jesus Because every man born of a Woman is born into the world of sin and he has Adamic Nature nature of sin When Adam committed high treason sinned he died a spiritual death which means he was totally seperated from his creator God he lost the glory position fellowship and communion he had with God before the fall It s only in Christ we can be made one with God and have this glory restored back to us JOHN 17vs22 Colorsian1vs27

HEBREWS 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgression that was under the first testament. They that which was called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. The old testament sacrifice could not take away sins, the old testament sacrifices might be compared to the writing of checks that was in the bank. Christ death was deposit from the foundation of the world, with Christ death on the cross, the deposit it was released and all checks was honored and paid.
Romans 3:25 THROUGH FAITH Christ's death satisfy the fathers righteous the man, it's benefits are appropriate only through faith in his finish work. In his blood through Jesus shed blood for our sins, this is how propitiation was accomplished. Just and justifier Jesus is both the Apostal and high priest of Christian faith. Jesus is sent directly from God as a messenger as high priest he is man direct and assessor with God. For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the tester. Testament (a will) require the deaths of it's maker before it can be set enforce. Christ life alone in the flesh could not establish the new testament his death in the fleshly form, his shed blood had to drain from the flesh of life existence was necessary. For a testament is a force after men are dead other wise it is of no strength at all why the tester live.

I believe that His righteousness became mine because of Christ, that He is the source of it. My only part and response would just be believing in Him. When I am thinking of His salvation on me, Oh it's all from Him, It's all because of Him. He gave me this salvation and I thank Him,I believed on Him and I am believing in Him.

I think what you was tell me ,is the true of GOD word for my soul of life this day.

To Oracle's comment:
For alll have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. ( Romans 3:23) God had a purpose for His creation. It was perfect. Mankind was tempted by Satan, manifested in the form of a serpent. We knew the will of God, but chose to disobey it and thus sinned. We were no longer perfect as God is perfect. One flaw causes something to be imperfect. That imperfection doesn't go away, but worsens( Genesis 8:21). That is why we needed a Savior who was man yet perfect. God sent His Son, Jesus to die for our sins so that if we place our sins on Him, He will forgive us. Acknowledge sinful condition, humble yourself, repent, and ask forgiveness through Jesus Christ and you will receive everlasting life with Him in Heaven.

to come short mean that we've taken on another position and condition a fallen one. we are different then what God's original creative picture of us was prior to the fall. therefore we cannot represent His glory, His image, and His character because we are able to reflect who his is because of what we have become. we are a fallen creature, it's like having a hunch back that can never be corrected unless the potter God makes us over again.

Who is this Jesus you ask? Is this Bible a storybook? Answer: First the Bible is not a storybook but rather a living breathing book that once you have accepted Christ as your Savior the Holy Spirit resides within you (the Comforter Jesus promised to send after His resurrection and acension to heaven)and guides you and reveals the scriptures to you. It is the only book that the author is present each time you read it and reveals more and more to you as you grow in your daily life with Jesus who is the Christ. Second: Jesus is the only begotten Son of God full of grace and truth ( John 3:16-17) who came to die for us and pay the sin debt He did not owe for us who could not pay the debt of sin we owed. How marvelous to know and understand that the Holy God of heaven and earth and all there is was willing to do such a thing! Romans 3:23 gives us the state we are born into but John 3:16 and 1 John 1:9 are two of many verses that tells us how to come to Jesus to accept the free gift of salvation. Jesus is the way the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father except through Him. Keep searching the scriptures and pray God to reveal the truth to you and you will see who this Jesus is and how wonderful it is to have Him in your heart and part of your life.

even in Jesus day there was much false doctrine,we must study the word of God,because there's just one way, the Holy Spirit does the teaching,he will reveal false doctrine, the most important teaching of all is salvation, Romans 3:23, 5:12,6:23,10:9,10,13. John 1:12, Acts2:41

who are the "we" referenced in v. 3:28 ?

Romans 3:24-26 Is the gospel of the grace of God given to all man to be saved. I believe in Jesus and have faith in his blood fully persuaded.
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Jesus did it all folks. TRUST our LORD, not yourselves. Only one way to be righteous.Go to JESUS CHRIST and be saved. He did what we could not.>>> Here we see 1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. >>>Ready for some Peace? This verse above says if you are sinning you are STILL under LAW.(easy math) If you can commit one at all it's only because you've transgressed the law. And that's due to the laws defining the sin committed told you it was one.( Romans 3:20) Which ALSO means you have not gotten saved YET ( or even tried to be!). The "Good" news for the saved? READ IT.>>> Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are NOT under the law, but under GRACE.>>> Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets>>>> Romans 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness>>>Romans10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. I HIGHLY suggest you read this, those attempting to be righteous without being saved, for you cannot do so: Galatians 2:16 and Galatians 3 (whole chapter). DO not be a foolish Galatian either and act like Gods gift was not enough. It was everything, for ALL fell short. Go Praise the LORD and rejoice! You are safe with Jesus!

Here is the essence of what free grace does for the true believer. We are never justified by works because our works are all tainted by sins. The only way a person can ever become justified, that is, declared not guilty before God, is by the free grace of Christ through which we are redeemed. This is why a true Christian can never lose their salvation. It has been divinely sealed by the free grace of Christ. Since He was the one who redeemed us, He has stated that He will never lose any of us. ( John 6:37 KJV) All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. Those who swallow and follow the free will heresy have no concept of the free grace of Christ in redeeming His children. They, in essence, declare themselves justified based upon their actions and not on the action of Christ. This is why many who believe they are saved are not because a spiritually dead person cannot enact their own salvation by their own volition. It is simply not taught in Scripture but is forced upon certain Scriptures so man can retain his pride, even in salvation. Justification not only declares us not guilty of all our sins but places the believer in a position of righteousness. Amen glory to God for saving me...

This verse teaches the very plain truth about every human being and that is that everyone has sinned without exception. The word “come short” carries with it the meaning of “inferior or failure.” Man’s sin has caused them to fail in grasping the glory of God, even though man in his pride likes to think that his track record of works bring glory to God. ( 1 Ki 8:46 KJV) If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near; Even in the Old Testament the fact was made clear that there is not one person on Earth who has not sinned.

In answer to Rosalina's Romans Chapter 3 comment on 9/14/2013, 11:52am...If we have faith in the blood of Jesus Christ--then we will BAPTIZED IN JESUS name. Then and only then can/will the blood be applied for the REMISSION OF SINS. Peter said on the day of Pentecost--BAPTISM WAS FOR THE remission of SINS.

Matthew 26:28 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Acts 2:38 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Just believing is no good--we must FOLLOW the INSTRUCTIONS found in the word of GOD>

In the beginning of the unknown beginning God Almighty created the visible and invisible universe. Gen 1:1. Job 38:4. He alone knit me together in the womb of my mother (same to everybody) Psalm 139:13-15. Deception from satan stole me from the LOVE of God. (Same to every mortal being) John 10:10. We believed untested ideology of man rather than the WORD of God. We are lost. Luke 19:10. Yes "Let God be true and every man be a liar" Rom, 3:4. The Son of man came to seek and save a wretched man like you and I. I need Jesus Christ for my salvation (same to you as well).

(This is my response to "NOT TRUE" comments. The issue is not whether the law is good or not. The issure is in our inability to keep the law. As Paul said in Romans 7: "I don't understand myself at all, for I really want to do what is right, but I don't do it. Instead, I do the very thing I hate." Then he says, "But I can't help myself, because it is sin inside me that makes me do these evil things."

So how can we "be perfect" as Matthew 5:48 tells us to? We do this by letting Jesus take away our sins. This happens when we place our faith in him. This washes away all our sins, present or past. Anyway, all sins are "past" once we have committed them.

By not "making void the law" Paul is simply saying what we all understand. That is, it the law's purpose to expose our sins. It does this by always being a part of the Bible. And it has done its job well. It did it so well it killed Jesus for our sins. But once it had done its job, its administration over us ended. Because as Paul said, "We died with Christ on the cross." And as any legal student knows, the law has no power over someone who is dead to its effects.

Paul summarizes it like this. "So this is the point. The law no longer holds you in its power, because you died to its power when you died with Christ on the cross. ... Now we can really serve God. not in the old way by obeying the letter of the law, but in the new way by the Spirit."

I hope this clears up this matter!

(Verse 23) "For all have sinned ..." This means that because of our sinful nature we are going to commit sins. This applies to all people, whether we live under the law or grace. The issue is then, how do we get rid of these sins. Or stated more plainly, how do we make ourselves righteous.

Paul states plainly that we do this by letting Jesus take away our sins. "He has done this through Christ Jesus, who has freed us by taking away our sins. For God sent Jesus to take the punishment for our sins and to satisfy God's anger against us." He goes on to say, "We are made right with God when we believe that Jesus shed his blood, sacrificing his life for us."

In other words, the death of Jesus was a subsutitute for our deaths. That is, it was supposed to be us dying on that cross, but Jesus took our place. This is what it means to say that we are saved by grace. Because in his gracious mercy, God did not punish us, but instead placed the punishment for our sins on Jesus.

I use the terms "God" and "Jesus" to mean the same because as it is expressed in John 1:1, "... and the Word (Jesus) was God." That's why Paul in 1 Timothy 2:3 calls Jesus "God our Savior."

(This is my response to Rev. Autrey's comment dated 8/14/2013 at 1:19pm on Romans Chapter 3):

It is "NOT TRUE" that God saves us by faith "EVEN" we didn't keep the law.. It is "NOT TRUE" that trusting in Jesus Christ makes us righteous in the sight of God "EVEN" by not obeying the law.. LET ME CLEAR THIS.. Our Lord Jesus Christ himself said be ye therefore "PERFECT" even as your "FATHER" which is in heaven is "PERFECT" ( Matthew 5:48).. The book of Romans Chapter 3 was telling us that because of the LAW our SINS were revealed.. Therefore, there is NONE RIGHTEOUS.. If we come to the KNOWLEDGE OF GOD.. then we shall have faith in the BLOOD of our Lord Jesus Christ for the REMISSION of SINS that are PAST.. Meaning they our SINS shall NOT be REMEMBERED on the day of JUDGEMENT.. That made us be found PERFECT in the sight of God.. But that doesn't mean we shall make VOID the LAW through FAITH.. YES.. We ESTABLISH the LAW ( Romans 3:31).

It is true. I gave the Lord 1% and the Lord
reduced my income to 10% of His original plan
and told me "now that makes your 1% a tythe.
Continue to give me 'that 10$ o f my 10% and
I will increase it to my original 100%'

As the Lord says:

"let God be true, but every man a liar"
Romans 3:4

Julio C. Banks

(Verse 10) "No one is good, not even one." "... for there is no man that sinneth not" ( 1 Kings 8:46)." Man is a sinner by nature. He cannot keep God's laws, nor does he want to. That is, when man sinned in the garden, God locked his mind into the sinful mode that he told God he wanted. This means that we are naturally evil, and we cannot make ourselves un-evil, no matter how hard we try.

Let's say it this way. By trying to do good we still remain evil. This is true, even when we try to keep God's law. "... For the more we know God's law, the clearer it becomes that we are not obeying it" ( Romans 3:20)

That's why God saves us by faith. Meaning, because of our belief in him, he gives us credit for keeping the law, even though we didn't keep it. It like a teacher erasing an "F" from a students report card and writing in an "A." The teacher does this because the student believes or has faith that the teacher will. Paul says it this way. "But now God has shown us a different way of being right in his sight, not by obeying the law but by the way promised in the Scriptures long ago. We are made right in God's sight when we trust in Jesus Christ to take away our sins. ..."( Romans 3:21-22)

Isn't our God Good?

What a gloriously freeing Word from the Spirit of God through the infallible pen of Paul.. No one has excuse and need not make any!! Paul is identifying the obvious condition of all humanity including those who think they follow the minutest tennants of the Law and prescribes the only healing option for mankind.. Jesus Christ!!! paying it forward by taking the emotional anger of God for every sin down through His Story. And providing the way of continual communion in the Spirit of Christ through dwelling within the heart of evil man!!! wow, ****s my mind, especially in a day of SELF improvement and SELF effort.. In a day when we say "I am rich, and have need of nothing" the resetting of the human comp*** back to , "you are poor, miserable, blind and naked." Thank you Lord God for your Word.. Judge us by your Truth, Your Word is Truth

Many other believers say that with this p***age that we are no longer bound with the law and with it the sabbath is abolished... you are absolutely wrong. Romans 3:31 clearly states that we do not abolish the law, we stablish it. therefore, we must make the sabbath holy....

We have to keep in mind this Epistle was written by Paul. Peter warns us in 2 Peter 3 15-16, that we are to be careful in interpreting Paul's letters. Through this p***age we can plainly see that Christ abolished the "Enmity" or hostility between the House of Israel and the House of Judah. I think that to correctly interpret this p***age we need to remember that Israel became a divided nation. They split into Northern (House of Israel) and Southern (House of Judah) kingdoms. Many interpret the next part of the verse to mean that the Law has been abolished. This interpretation is in direct conflict with many other scriptures such as Romans 3:31, and can lead to the error of lawlessness as Peter said (referenced above). The King James bible says "Having abolished in His flesh the enmity, even the Law of commandments contained in ordinances.....". I believe what Paul is trying to get across is that Christ has brought peace. He has brought and end to enmity, or hostility or any dispute even regarding the Law of Commandments contained in ordinances.

Grace does not give you a license to sin according to 1 John 3:4 Sin is the transgession of Gods Law the blood of Christ forgives you of your past sins Romans 3:24 and allows you yo be reconciled back to God youre saved by grace because you did nothing to earn this however dont take advantage of Gods grace by disobying his law.

Grace is too Marvellous for words, by Grace I have recently discovered that less than 500 years ago no one knew the name Jesus. After Seth was born to Adam and Eve it says then men began to call upon the name of YAH, people knew His name and called upon Him, but then came those who thought His name was too holy so they took His name YAH out and inserted, God, Lord, Jehovah, Adonai. Our saviour the son of YAH has His father's name in him and His purpose. And His name is YAHoshua meaning YAH is salvation or salvation of YAH. We are commanded not to add or take away from scripture. Many of the prophets had the name of YAH in their names like JeremYAH.

All humans are guilty of this 1 Kings 8:46a (for there is no man that sinneth not). Job 15:14, 'what is man, that he should be clean?’; and he which is born of a WOMAN (Adamic nature) that he should be righteous? So until you allow Jesus into your life Today, that glory is absent. Colossians 1:27 says Christ in me the hope of Glory. Receive your glory now by saying after me 'LORD JESUS, I believe in you now, all that sacrifice was for me, I accept you today, come into my life an restore the Glory. AMEN. GOD bless you.

I believe every sin can be forgiven, except blasphemy of the Holy Spirit which is the power of God of that saves us. In Mathew 12:31, Jesus says every sin and blasphemy can be forgiven, except blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Hebrews 10:29 says that people have trampled the son of God (by rejecting the Son of God and blood that was offered through the power of the Holy Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead). Many Jewish Christian (who were grounded in Christ) of the first century, thought about returning to the Jewish faith. Some of Jesus teachings didn’t line up with the teaching of the rabbis. They questioned if Jesus was really was the Messiah. These Jewish converts were being persecuted. They did not want give up old Jewish traditions and forms of worship. And they thought that keeping the law would save them. They continued to sin by offering sacrifices in the Law of Moses instead of believing the sacrifice that Christ made at cross. The scriptures cannot say that we commit sins. We are saved because he died for all our sins, past, present, and future. Romans 3:23, for everyone has sinned and is fallen short of the Glory of God. 1 John 1:9 says if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive our sins. Johns 3:16 says God so loved the world that gave his begotten son that whoever believes will not perish. So the sin that the writer is dealing with in this passage is unbelief in the power of God to save you. The sin of unbelief of Jesus Christ redemptive work on the cross is the sin that cannot be forgiven (unbelief of the power of the Holy Spirit). These Jewish converts witnessed many miracles of God and still did not believe in Jesus.

I think it's important to see that we're all unworthy of this marvelous Grace. We're all sinners and none of us was seeking God. Thankfully he was seeking after us and he gave us the measure of faith that we have. The object of our faith is the only thing that matters at this point. We must place it in the Lord Jesus and his substitution death. That's the faith that will see you through! Jesus is the way, the truth and the life!