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Romans 3:25, Ephesians 2, 1Peter 2:10, Philippians 3:13-14,

Colossians 3,

Hopefully these are helpful

Yes my Dear brother Marke. This is true, but why say this? We are all sinners in this world but when we find the Father and Jesus and try to walk in righteousness thru FAITH we are all forgiven. The Lord knows all mans (444) Hearts. Even yours.

When the adulteress women was found guilty what did Jesus say? He said let him who has never sinned cast the first stone. Now Jesus who had never sinned, did he accuse this women or put her to Death? No he forgave her of her sins and asked her to sin no more.

Jesus came into her life and if this happened to you would you Sin again or at least try to walk righteous in approval of the Lord?

Romans 3:25.

It is up to US all not to accuse or judge but to Praise the Gospel and TEACH it so all become touched by our FAITH thus trying to do no wrong anymore and walk so we and others are irreproachable (423). Blameless, Unrebukeable.

Blessed Marke Brother.

Douglas Borchard,

This prophecy gives the precise time of the first coming of the Messiah. You will receive different understandings of this, it is a study that will take much time. this is just a little information you may use to help your study.

Many put the last week of this prophecy at the end times. It is used for the 7 years of tribulation, a peace treaty with the antichrist (he in verse 27) for 3 1/2 years then 3 years of great tribulation with the taking of the church somewhere between (pre, mid, post).

"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, (70 weeks, 70 x 7 = 490 solar years or 483 prophetic years) on the house of Israel (Daniel's people) and the holy city (Jerusalem). It started from "the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem", make a note, that the rebuilding of the temple is not in this prophecy.

Here are a few verses that may help your study and if this prophecy has been fulfilled or not.

1. To finish the transgression Isaiah 53:5, 8 Isaiah 53:11 Hebrews 9:15-18

2. To make an end of sins Matthew 1:21 Hebrews 10:8-11 John 1:29 1 Corinthians 15:3

1 John 3:5 Psalm 32 Romans 8:3

3. To make reconciliation for iniquity Colossians 1:20-22 Isaiah 53:6 Isaiah 53:11 Ephesians 2:16 ( Titus 2:14 2 Corinthians 5:18-19

4. To bring in everlasting righteousness Romans 5:17-21 Romans 3:21-26 1Peter 2:24

2 Corinthians 5:21 Isaiah 61:10-11

5. To seal up vision and prophecy Daniel 9:23 John 6:27 Mark 1:14-15 Acts 3:18

John 5:36-40 Matthew 11:11-15

6. To anoint the most holy Hebrews 8:1-12 Hebrews 9:6-14

The six things that were determined on Daniel's people and the holy city in this 70-week prophecy; did the Messiah/Jesus fulfill?

God bless,

RLW

Hanna Fowler,

Sometimes we have to find out who we are not, & who we don't want to be, before we find out who we are. I've told several people at times before testings & temptation we can say "I'd never" but as Peter under the real pressure gave in, we really don't know how we handle trial & temptation until testing. (We're to pray that God deliver us & lead us not into temptation ' Matthew 6,) Luke 22:31-34, Luke 22:40-62, Matthew 26:75, John 21:17, later Peter became a bold preacher read all the book of Acts to see Peter's boldness afterward. Here's a few: Acts 2:38-47, Acts 2:14, this is in the Bible for those of us who need this encouragement. Also this scripture : Luke 7:47, in context Luke 7:37-50,

Here are a few more: Mark 1:15, Acts 2:38, John 3:15-16, Acts 3:19, Romans 3:22-25,

Romans 5:8, "But God commendeth his love towards us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

Ephesians 5,

Ephesians 5:8 "For ye were sometimes darkness, but now ye are light in the Lord: walk as children of the light."

Matthew 7, Matthew 25:31-46, 2Corinthians 1:4,

Hopefully these are all helpful

Dear Pius Joseph JD, The only thing that will send you to hell is rejecting Jesus Christ as Savior. In remorse for your sins and willing to repent of them, ask Jesus to forgive you of your sins, and He will give you a new heart.

This is what the Bible says about being born again.

"As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)



That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13

God bless you!

Brothers in Christ,

I truly understand each one's point of view. If I may share my thoughts that made me know I am saved.

I read the entire animal blood sacrifices in the Old Testament for the atonement of sins and sanctification ( cleansed or washed away sins). Then one day I realized that the greatest gift our generation could ever received was the blood of Jesus Christ, ( a parallel sacrifice for our generation) to be our propitiation ( i.e. an act of appeasing wrath). I could have been put to death for my own sins, but instead Jesus Christ took upon himself my sins and others to save me and all of us from the wrath of God and give us an eternal/ everlasting life. Then make us live in the Kingdom of God here on earth.

1 John 4:10

Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Romans 3:25

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

1 John 2:2

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Then I realized I have to keep that Holy Spirit in me. I cannot explain how I started to read the Bible like my life depends on it. This happened on 11/11/21 when I know I was saved.

Since I was young I know I have some peculiar things happenings to me. I cannot explained them, but now I understood the God given gift of discernment. That is why at such a young age I made God as my best friend. People will say or do something that I know in my heart was wrong. I cannot explain then, but now God made it clear to me.

In conclusion, Jesus Christ is in me. I know.

Galatians 2:20

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

The doctrine of election is described as the "total depravity" of man according to the "TULIP" acronym which was credited toward; but not originated with Calvin's set of beliefs on predestination as one of the elements. Simply put; Christ looked down also and saw that there was no man in Isaiah 63:3; thus he renders justice and we are only made right through His sacrifice. If anyone else could have done it; surely Christ wouldn't have to die on the cross; or have to pray that if possible the cup would be spared

( Luke 22:42). It is obvious from scripture that "all men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God". ( Romans 3:23). There are; of course many other verses in both Testaments on that subject.

We could say that since Revelation indicates the fate of ALL who are NOT written in the Book of Life is to worship Antichrist ( Rev. 13:8) we all are going to turn away as your quoted verse in Psalms indicates. Obviously; some do come to God; but since repentance is a gift according to scripture ( Acts 11:18); and faith is also mentioned as such in Ephesians 2:8; it becomes clear that all good gifts come from above ( James 1:17).

This doesn't absolve our personal responsibility; and part of this mystery of election involves man's response or lack thereof to the same evidence at least with external appearance. The sticking point comes as indicated when Christ said "why do you call me good"? ( Mark 10:18). Seeing Him as God in the flesh only comes through Divine revelation ( Matthew 16:17). Others see Him as a "good teacher; Prophet or something else as the earlier verses in that passage indicate. Those people are not "spiritually discerned" ( 1 Cor. 2:14).

Finally; going back to Noah we have the lack of salvation available for hybrid offspring of the fallen angels; as well as those angels themselves. Therefore; a universal destruction occured; except for Noah "perfect in his generations" ( Gen. 6:9). This indicates pure human seed; not sinless

Mike, I'm praying for you but I have a question. What did you mean exactly when you said " while I was still good"?

I'm just wondering because our perceived goodness doesn't win us any merit with God. Salvation isn't about how good we are. We can't earn our way into God's kingdom with our goodness or works that we do. It's about how much God loves us. I'm just gonna keep this short and give you two scriptures that come to mind. Make that three.

Jobs wife said " Do you still retain your integrity? ,why don't you just curse God and die!" Needless to say she got replaced.

#1 Read JOB 2:9

Job did not sin with his lips bringing accusation against the Lord.

#2 Read Romans 3:10

No one is righteous, nope, not me, not you. God owes us nothing. All of our righteousness is as filthy rags. Salvation is a gift. And friendship with the world is enmity with God. Prosperity is a false gospel. But if you'll seek Gods kingdom with your truest heart, He will give you the truest desires of your heart. He knows better than you what will make you happy.

I don't believe that Jesus threw you in to a pen with wolves. That doesn't sound like Jesus. But the devil is the adversary. He roams the earth seeking whom he may devour. We cannot be saved our way. We must do it the Bible way. Submit to the Lord. Repent or perish, for the kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

#3 Read John 3:16

It's all about His love for us. God sent His Son to take our sin. That's the gift. That our souls would not perish.

So much for keeping it short right?

Let me ask you this question in closing.

Do you honestly think that if you would have been blessed With houses and cars and wives and children and money raining from the heavens and friends and FB followers that you would even be seeking the Lord at all? Be honest with yourself.

Here's a bonus scripture :-)

Read Mark 8:36

All you have to do is touch the links to the scriptures I've referenced and they will open.

Dear Joy, if you have been born again, He is your Father and your Friend.

How to be born again.

"As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)



That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13

You weren't specific about what verse from James. Keep in mind James is written to the 12 tribes of Israel. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. The bible does say that God does hate certain sins above others.

Dear Victor,

If you are saved, form the habit of daily devotions--praying and reading the Bible, including studying the Gospel of John which teaches Jesus's deity, and what the Apostles Peter and Paul wrote about growing strong in our walk with Christ Hebrews 5:11-6:12, 1 Cor. 3:1-4, 10-15, Eph 4:11-16, 1 Pet. 2:1-3, 2 Pet.1:3-10. When you sin, ask forgiveness and repent from ever doing it again. Jesus's blood is sufficient to cover all your sins. 1John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." Ask Him to search your heart, know your thoughts to see if there be any wickedness in you, and show you the way to walk. Psalms 139:23, 24 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. Confess, repent, and your sins will be blotted out.

If you are not born again, that is, not saved, here is the way to salvation:

"As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)



That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13

Dear David, the Bible is clear about forgiveness of sins: 1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." This verse is to assure that our sins are forgiven when we become born again and that when we sin after being saved.

If you are saved, form the habit of daily devotions--praying and reading the Bible, including studying the Gospel of John which teaches Jesus's deity, and what the Apostles Peter and Paul wrote about growing strong in our walk with Christ Hebrews 5:11-6:12, 1 Cor. 3:1-4, 10-15, Eph 4:11-16, 1 Pet. 2:1-3, 2 Pet.1:3-10. When you sin, ask forgiveness and repent from ever doing it again.

If you are not born again, that is, not saved, here is the way to salvation:

"As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)



That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13

I've met many atheists who've come to Christ. They have more hope than we sometimes give credit for as they're searching for answers. Most naturalist atheists I've met are more than willing to sit down and talk about the word of God. Those who have no political attachment tend to be more open to listening to the Gospel. I'd let her know that if she's your friend (your sister) that you love her and there's only truth in love. Tell her that the truth is simple. If we complicated the Truth, it would be hard for anyone to accept Christ Jesus. But here's that simple Truth of Salvation:

Titus 1:2, "In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, PROMISED before the world began."

Acts 13:39, "And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses."

[Law cannot justify, you can't justify your self, philosophy and religion cannot justify you...only justification through the Blood of Christ Jesus]

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" ( Romans 3:23)

Romans 10:8-13

"But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him."

The religious of this world seek to complicate the simple Truth (Salvation) of Christ with doctrines, sacraments, laws, pre-requisites and but these verses are Truth and the Truth shall set you free.

13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Psalm 34:5-8

They looked unto him, and were lightened: and their faces were not ashamed. This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles. The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them. O taste and see that the Lord is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.

Psalm 23:5-6

Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

Mark 10:18

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Nahum 1:17

The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him.

James 1:17

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Jeremiah 29:11

For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1 Timothy 4:4-5

For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, IF it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Romans 12:2

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind (Bible), that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Note these verses on the back page of your Bible. For days that go wrong and make us doubt.

Mishael

God is good

Dear Ringo, below are verses and instructions on how to be born again.

"As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)



That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13

I'm lifting you up to God. May you be born again and live for our Mighty God.

Happy Easter 2022 everyone, remember that you are valuable as i will try and write to you in black and white. So pray for the spirit of wisdom right now.

Think so well: John 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, He purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Think of those of you who have lost loved ones in recent years, or maybe right now! These people who are in Paradise right now! (They are lifted up it says in an older edition). It means that the servant of the Lord has been given rest. And for those who are left full of sorrow and bitterness, No far from you friend! In Jesus Holy Name. The rest of us He will prune so that we can reap more souls for Him who can and said: It is finished. In Jesus name

And we take a little jump to John 16:8-11 And when He is come, He will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

Pleace read it one more time! We know that here the Lord means the Holy Spirit that He was to send after He was risen from the dead.

Of sin, because they believe not on Me;

Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see Me no more;

Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

So what is true judgmental sin? It says so.

So what does justice really mean. We are reminded of James 5:16 where it says: Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. There was one answer we have several examples of justice:

Romans 3:21-26 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: There came the answers to the other two.

Ephesians 2

Paul further explains that it was not by our own efforts, in verse 9 when he says "not the results of works, so that no one may boast".

Paul says that salvation has fallen upon them all due to God, because we are like "dead corpses" which cannot do anything unless we are revived by God's grace.

give the answers to why we are saved and who saved us, it was by God through his grace and Christ.

Overall, the Letter to the Ephesians explains what Paul believes is the reason why the people of Ephesus and Asia Minor.

Again the word dead 'nekros' is used to suggest that we cannot save "state of spiritual deadness because of our trespasses

but because God makes us alive (spiritually) through Jesus Christ. Because man does not normally seek

God, said in Romans 3:10-11, it is God who must act first to save us from our sins and trespasses

ourselves because we are like dead corpses who can only be revived by God. Paul says it is God who made

us 'alive' again.

Paul explains to us how we are raised up with Christ, just like how Jesus rose form the

dead, we are now raised up from our state of spiritual deadness. Paul writes that Christ has "seated us with

him in the heavenly places", meaning although we may be physically alive here on earth, Jesus Christ has

assigned a place spiritually at the right hand of God. Paul explains that being saved is not only a physical

thing but more importantly, we are saved spiritually

with Christ, because this spiritual state we are now in is irreversible, unless_



Paul sums up or completes his teaching of Salvation and how God saves through GRACE.

Paul says that it is by grace we have received faith.

Paul explains how and why we are saved, that is because of grace and our faith.

We need to understand that it is not by our own efforts that we have left that state of spiritual deadness but by the life in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Mishael: it is by Faith in Jesus's work, that you are saved.

The Bible is divided into a old testament (will) and the new testament (will). The new testament is God's current will. When someone makes a new will the old one is replace by, or subject to the new . Hebrews 1:1 God spoke in times past by the prophets but in these last days spoken to us by his Son. The old law came through Levi but Jacob prophesied that the lawgiver would proceed out of Judah. David prophesies Christ would be after the order of Melchisedec. In Hebrews 7 it states that the "the priesthood being changed there is made of necessity a change in the law. The law can be for a shadow of the new, but not the very image ( Hebrews 10:1) 1 Timothy 1:8 The law is good if a man use it lawfully implies that the old testament can be used if it complies with the new testament. Romans 3:31 Do we make void the law through faith? God forbid, yea, we establish the law. 2 Cor. 3 has numerous verses that the old testament was to be "done away". The new testament is referenced as the "law of liberty" and the "law of Christ" which is the true lawgiver. Christ in Mat. 7 said in several places "ye have heard that it was said by them of old time" but "I said unto you" indicating that some old testament laws were not according to the "new will".

Hi Dee,

I found a page of verses about that:

Link

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

So, the short answer is no, alcoholics nor drunkards don't deserve to enter the kingdom of heaven, nor does anyone else without Jesus, for all have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God and sin is detestable to God: Romans 3:23.

But fortunately, Jesus died to pay for our sins and we have an opportunity to accept His gift and follow Him, which involves doing away with our old sinful ways and becoming new.

How to follow Jesus:

Link

To me the question is not 'can I continue doing this sin I love and still go to heaven' but 'how can I follow Jesus and put my full faith and trust and life in Jesus'? God bless.

you do need to Believe, but it is not that simple. the word says James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. James 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, ( and by works was faith made perfect? ) James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works (a man is justified, and not by faith only. ) James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that ( faith without works is dead? ) this is the word of God and not my own opinion. Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged

Hi Roman.

Thanks for replying.

I've moved this conversation to a new thread since the other is a week old, And off topic.

You stated:

"Spencer, Jesus said 2 commandments are most important, above all. If I follow the commandments, I will be OK at that. I don't need to dissect a butterfly to see how it flies. My impression is that everyone good and bad make it to the promised land, the tainted spirits we wear will be made whole so we haven't the capacity to sin. Even though it's dangled in our faces, the lake of fire is only for the 3 evil spirits, and no one else. Too much speculation and fuss is made over what will never be known and confirmed from the hear and now. Anything that occurs past the 7th trumpet is beyond our scope, beyond our comprehension, and out of this world. For all we know, our salvation comes from being thrown back into the universe as dust particles, into a new realm.

I don't think about my salvation, I don't worry about it, because it's not mine to entertain, but God's.

My personal salvation is rooted in selfishness that I could be good enough to make the grade.

I seek truth well before salvation. I was never a fanatic for life, so I look forward to death, the charade over. I wouldn't mind being blotted out as if I never existed, no record, that would be fine with me, too. I will have to wait and see what the Lord has in store for me.' End quote.

Roman if I had that mindset there wouldn't be any need to witness.

Roman you said you believe the lake of fire was only for the 3 evil spirits. here's their fate. Revelation 20:10.

But in this same chapter here's

mention of the lost suffering the same fate!! Revelation 20:15.

Here's a few of many scriptures I believe.

We've all sinned and come up short.

Romans 3:22-25.

The payment/Blood sacrfice.

Matthew 20:28.

Hebrews 9:26.

Conclusion.

John 6:28-29.

John 3:16-17.

Romans 10:9.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

Thanks and God bless you Roman.

Perhaps later.

God bless.

Dear Marvin: if you have been born again, that is saved, allow me to suggest you study the Gospel of John which teaches the deity of Jesus, and the verses written by the Apostles Paul and Peter which show us how to grow stronger in our walk with Jesus Hebrews 5:11-6:12, 1 Cor. 3:1-4, 10-15, Eph 4:11-16, 1 Pet. 2:1-3, 2 Pet.1:3-10.

Jesus said in John 3:3 "Ye must be born again to enter the kingdom of Heaven."

What the Bible says about being saved.

"As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)



How to be born again

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13

God bless you on your journey for Christ.

I believe the differences comes from these scriptures : Matthew 5:16, Matthew 7:21-29, Revelation 2:23, Revelation 20:13, Matthew 25:31-46,

Even Jesus did works: Matthew 11:2, Luke 19:37, & said greater works we shall do. John 14:20,

Matthew 16:27,

Matthew 23:3,5,23, hypocrisy not ok, you can read whole chapter & those chapters around it for context. John 8:39,

Romans 3:27-28, helps clarify, 'law of faith' Romans 4, Romans 9:30-33,

What is argued is: Romans 11:6, but in context it's the grace extended to Gentiles Romans 11:16-27, also read whole chapter Romans 11,

& Galatians 2:16, "knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.'' the works of the law are in Gen. Exodus, Deuteronomy, Leviticus. Galatians 3,

& Galatians 2:8,9, but we can't ignore Galatians 2:10,

& 2Timothy 1:9 , Titus 3, Hebrews 4, Hebrews 4:11,

However again we can't ignore 2Timothy 3:16-17, Titus 1:15,16, Titus 2, Hebrews 10:24, James 3:13, 1Peter 2:12, Revelation 2:26,

* James 2,

That was a good question. :)

Keep coming back when you can. God loves you! And so do I.

Grace is given without expecting anything in return.

WORKS is something done in return for payment or wages.

Example: sin's wages are death

BUT THE GIFT of the Grace of God is forgiveness.

I sure have met a lot of people that don't believe there are wages for sin.

I watched this new video on Hurricane Andrew. This woman's house was rubble. Rather than be happy her husband and children survived-she wailed and railed on God for destroying her house! It was rant.

I just bowed my head because it hurt my heart when we blame God for all losses. But we barely give thanks for blessings.

Grace, un-merited favor, deserves our praise.

Why is there so much difference of opinion between grace and work's doctrine?

Dear Deborah Kuradal, You say you need God in your life right now...let me ask you this? Have you been born again? If you have, trust in Him. Here are some verses which have helped me.

1John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Romans 8:38,39 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Ps. 56:3 Whenever I am afraid, I will trust in You.

Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord

Have you been born again? If not, here is the Way.

"As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)



"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)



"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)



That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13

God bless you!

(1) His miraculous birth was prophesied 800 years before His coming: "Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Emmanuel" ( Isaiah 7:14, KJV).

(2) The prophecy was fulfilled to the letter. "Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favor with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus" ( Luke 1:30, 31, KJV).

(3) Jesus demonstrated human characteristics: He became tired ( John 4:6). He thirsted ( John 19:28), He ate food ( Luke 24:40-43), He showed feelings ( Mark 6:34), He wept ( John 11:35), He knew temptation ( Hebrews 4:15), and He died ( John 19:30).

Jesus Christ Accomplished the Works of His Father:

(1) He died on the Cross. This is the fundamental theme of the Gospel.

The fact of His death-One-fourth of the Gospels are dedicated to His Passion and Resurrection. (a) For this purpose He came into the world ( John 12:27). (b) His death was prophesied hundreds of years before He came ( Isaiah 53:3-8).

The meaning of His death. (a) It was a ransom for sin ( Matthew 20:28; Romans 3:24; 1 Peter 1:18). (b) It was to pay the penalty for sin ( Romans 3:24; 1 John 2:2; 4:10). Man is the object of God's wrath because of rebellion and sin, but God took the initiative in satisfying His wrath by sending His own Son to Calvary. (c) It is a reconciliation. The enmity between us and God has ended ( Romans 5:10), and we are restored to God ( 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19). (d) It is a substitution: He died in our place ( 1 Peter 3:18; 2 Corinthians 5:21). (e) In summary, the matter of sin has been completely dealt with ( 1 Peter 2:24; Hebrews 9:26; Hebrews 10:12).

(2) He was resurrected from the dead: This is unique and fundamental to Christianity.

The reality of the Resurrection ( John 20:1-10; 1 Corinthians 15:4).

The credibility of the Resurrection: (a) Jesus predicted it: Matthew 13:39-41; Luke 24:1-7. (b) The tomb was empty: John 20:11-13. (c) Many witnesses saw Him alive: the women ( Luke 23:55, 56); Mary Magdalene

Dear Joleen, have you been saved?

"As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)



"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)



"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)



That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13

If you have been saved...we do not walk by sight--emotions--but by faith. In other words, whether you feel God's presence or not, walk on in Him, pray, read your Bible, be a witness to others, deny yourself and lean not unto your own understanding or feelings.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

2 Corinthians 5:7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.

God bless you!