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Brother David, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

You referenced:

2 Peter 1:20 This verse says no one verse in and of itself give the complete answer. Other verses have to bear witness to know TRUTH. No scriptures can contradict each other. ALL have to bear witness of each other in TRUTH.

Luke 16:22-24

You said this verse and others shows that even though God DESIRES all men to be save they want be saved.

THANK GOD, he doesn't leave his DESIRES up to man.

Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the FULLNESS OF TIMES (more ages than the one we are now in) that he might gather together IN ONE ALL THINGS IN CHRIST, both which are in heaven (first resurrection), and which are on earth (second resurrection), IN HIM.

Luke 16:22-24 Is a parable referencing the judgements of the two resurrections. Lazarus is in the first resurrection and is IN CHRIST. The rich man is in the GRAVE awaiting the second resurrection. When he is resurrected he will be begging Lazarus to give him the LIVING WATER that was given to him.

Know ye not THE SAINTS SHALL JUDGE THE WORLD.

Portia, I am in a similar situation, only it was my fiance who left. I am praying for his salvation, and taking very good care of myself in the meantime, and drawing nearer to the Lord during this time. Seeking to follow the Holy Spirit in all things. Would you also pray for my fiance, that he might be saved as well? Thank you, and Bless You.....

I will agree with you now, in Jesus' Name, for his salvation, and for the restoration of your marriage.

"Where two or three are gathered in My name, there I am in the midst of them," and they shall

ask what they will, and it shall be done unto them. May you keep loving him and blessing him in

the Spirit, and setting the table for him in the physical! Take care of yourself, as a King's daughter should,

and use this time to get even more established in the Lord, and in his Word; know that nothing shall be

impossible for s/he who believes. I will continue to pray and praise God for your answered prayer......

Oh Sacha,

You are such a good example of a Christian by works and by example. I admire how adamant you are about your spiritual convictions.



I was baptized as a baby, didn't remember it, and wouldn't do it again for fear of water. I only take showers, no baths because I fell asleep in the tub and almost drown. Enjoy the summer harvest.

Jesus gives clews about the great tribulations coming. Luke describes how Jesus thief will come at the day of the Lord to lay down the land. He will not meet us as a man. It sounds like guns, thunder. Revolution.

Luke 17:24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

Please pray for me. I am very disturbed about my separation from my husband now for 3 years. I would like very much for us to be back together. Unfortunately, he is not save/a Christian believer, though he only acknowledges that he believes in God, from a general view. My prayer is that God might save him.

My question is about woman who had an issue of blood and she touch (action/ works) Jesus garment with faith, and she was healed.

Question- What was the women issue of blood? And what action/works can be used today for a man with faith to be heal with a blood issue (multiple myeloma cancer).

I have multiple myeloma cancer which I think can be considered a blood issue.

I have good if not great faith, however Jesus is not physically here to perform works and show Him my faith. I know God can see and/know our faith, but what type of work is what I don't know.

It is said you should pray in the spirit. What is the difference in just praying and praying in the spirit and how do you pray in the spirit?

Ricky L Hill, Rage against the machine was taken to court right after the towers went down because of lyrics in one of their songs would lead you to think they knew about the attack, before hand when they didn't know, they were just singing what they were led to sing. Revelation 9:1-11 goes with Sept. 11, so prophesying is still taking place today.

Lex,

If you have been born of God's Spirit, His Spirit abides in you permanently. In John 14:16, Jesus said "And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another comforter, that He may (abide) with you forever. This word abide (MENO) denotes permanency. Jesus said His Spirit will abide with you forever. How long is forever? No end! Jesus is going to send another comforter and He is going to abide in me, and I am going to be a dwelling place forever.

Ephesians 1:13-14 tells us that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit. That seal cannot be broken by anyone other the owner of the possession. Jesus Christ has purchased us. We belong to Him. He has given us His Spirit to live in us permanently until He comes to redeem His possession.

Of those who Christ has saved and placed within them His Spirit, Jesus said He will never leave them nor forsake them. This is a double negative in the Greek which denotes the strongest impossibility of something ever happening. He will never take His Spirit from a believer.

We are told in Romans Chapter 8 that if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ (Indwelling), that person does not belong to Christ. That is the indication that a person is saved, is that they have the Holy Spirit in them. John 6:37-40 is a great section of scripture that would indicate that God's Spirit will always be with the believer. If God's Spirit were to be removed from us, we would be lost. And Jesus said all that the Father has given to Him, He would not lose one, but raise them up at the last day.

Kathleen elisa,

Child of God, my your blessings return to you 10 fold.

I feel by confessing how I spiritually felt, and have felt that the the weight has lifted better than zoloft.

There's enough spirit to go around, God made plenty!!

Thankyou Little Sheba ,im honestly not angry , i often read things on here that i dont agree with , most of the time i dont say anything as i can often see why a person believes something , i can see their logic even though i may not agree with them , i am genuinely incredulous that any one can reject water baptism ,especially as Christ endorses it , i would feel naked if i hadnt been baptised , we can all be in error at times ,i know that for sure , i cant in all conscience keep quiet if i think some one is in error and is leading others down a wrong path , as far as im concerned the subject is closed for me and him ,we have agreed to disagree and i shant read his posts ,ive told him this and he seemed ok but now he is sending me posts ,im not reading them . Im sure when he realises im not reading him he will give up , thanks for listening to me , i appreciate you , love in Christ .

what is the name of mother mary husband father?

Brother Melvin, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Jesus said: Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it again. He was speaking of his body.

If we are IN CHRIST then we are in the temple of God.

John declared this:

Revelation 15:8 And the temple (CHRIST) was filled with the smoke of THE GLORY OF GOD, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the TEMPLE (into Christ), till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

The seven plagues of Revelation was poured out on Christ instead of us, WE deserved that punishment. All of mankinds judgement was ON CHRIST as he cried out to God.

That is what I am thinking about. How do I know that God hasn't withdrawn His Holy Spirit from me?

Neil,

Here is something that I take away from that presentation. It is very interesting about these three gifts, and the representation that these gifts have.

They gave Gold to deity, to kingship, and to rulers. Gold is the metal. Gold is the item for royalty. And so by bringing gold, they were worshipping Him as King.

Frankincense was one of the items used as a gift offering in the book of Leviticus and it represents the representation of man in their worship of God.

Thirdly, Myrrh was for embalming and had to do with embalming bodies.

So what you have in the representation here, whether they realized it or not, they were presenting three gifts to the Lord, representing His deity, His humanity, and His death.

JESUS came in the fourth Day, nd GOD was sitll working. John 5:v.17 - 17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

Hebrews 1:v.1-4

1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days (last two Days or two thousand years) spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

Brother Benton, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

I BELIEVE we are being conformed (created) into the exactness and perfection of Christ. We are being made Sons of God as he is; but we will NEVER have the GLORY of the FIRST BEGOTTEN.

1 Corinthians 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another of the moon, and another of the stars: for one star differeth from another in glory.

I BELIEVE this is true of the natural creation; but also represents the FATHER, the BEGOTTEN SON and those SONS created in Christ.

In reply to Glenn Gerun on Luke 5:11

With as much Love and grace of the Lord Jesus Christ that is with in me; I ask that you look into Luke 16: 22- 24. Not all will be with Christ forevermore. 2 Peter 3:9 tells us of God's desire for all, but not all will be with Christ forevermore.

May the Lord bless you in your search of God's righteousness and His wisdom not our own. 2 Peter 1:20

Revelation 20:11-15 depicts the great white throne of Christ Jesus. Not all will be with Christ forevermore.

God gave us these passages, as well as the one's you gave, to help us all to become "Christians or born again believers" in order that we are able to be with Him forevermore.

God's desire is that we be with Him forevermore as you brought forth in your discussion. But only through Scripture, His way. 1 Corinthians 15: 1- 4; Romans 10: 9, 10; 1 John 5:10-13

Pray that this discussion helps everyone on this Forum. God bless you. Love in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Lex,

A good indication of someone having the Holy Spirit would be a change in that person's life. That person has a hunger and desire for the things of the Lord and has a hunger for His word. When God's Spirit comes into a person's life, that person becomes a new creation in Christ.

There has to be a change because the Spirit of God that dwells in a believer is not dormant. It is God's Spirit (Holy Spirit) that transforms the life of a believer. God's Spirit will give you a true love for Him, and a true love for your brothers and sisters in Christ. Apart from His Spirit, we cannot produce that type of love.

Jesus' ministry is to baptize all who call on Him with His Spirit. He promises us that. Please keep in mind that you cannot "feel" the Holy Spirit. We cannot feel spirit. We can have a human emotional experience, but we can't feel spirit.

A believer knows they have the Spirit indwelling them by faith. It is God's Spirit that persuades us to believe. In fact, that's what the word faith literally means. It is the word PEITHO and it means persuasion. I cannot feel God's Spirit in me but I know He is there because He has fully persuaded me in my mind to know that He is in me and He is working in my life.

Lex, if you have God's Spirit in you, there will be a noticeable change in your life. It is a change that you know has taken place. Others might and should also notice the change.

What king was killed by a family member for worshipping other gods

Melvin,

When Jesus died on the cross, it wasn't just symbolism. It wasn't just the physical pain. He literally experienced the punishment for our sins, what it would be like to spend eternity separate from God. And it is Jesus crying out like everybody's going to be if they reject Christ. God, where are you? I'm in this darkness, in this pain. Jesus literally experienced our punishment.

Oh no, I did not say what you thought that I said. Note that I focused the generations of MANKIND, I meant from Adam until our days, I did not refer on creation of planet Earth.

Adam and his human nature did appear after the fall of the ruler of Eden and the multitude of angels which followed him- Genesis 6:v.1-12 and Jude 1:v.6-7. So God decided to destroy the man He had created from the face of the earth through a flood of waters upon the earth, and to destroy all flesh, where the breath of life was, from under heaven; and everything that was on earth should perish in the flood waters.

By the way, in the year 1.556 after Adam, Noah was five hundred years old, and GOD said for him to build the Ark. In the year 1.656 after Adam, even in the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, in this same day a flood of waters began to fall upon the earth.

For your better understand, and also for all readers, according biblical Chronology, we can number our days, beginning in Genesis chapter 5, as follow:

Adam lived .................................... 130 yrs and begat Seth

Seth lived 105 yrsand begatEnosh;

Enosh lived ........................................90yrsand begatKenan;

Kenanlived.........................................70yrsand begatMahalalel;

Mahalalellived ....................................65yrsand begatJared;

Jaredlived ........................................162yrs and begatEnoch;

Enochlived .........................................65yrsand begatMethuselah

Methuselahlived.................................187yrsand begatLamech;

Lamechlived.....................................182yrsand begatNoah;

FromNoahs birthuntilthe Flood.........600 yrs.

Total of years fromAdam tothe Flood=1,656 yrs.

I work with the Word of God.Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of God, it is not human theories or human speculations or conjectures.

What does only begotten mean to you? In your heart of hearts, what does it mean? What does sons of God mean to you? What does the glory of God mean to you? Jesus Christ is in the Father. "I and my Father are one. If you have seen the Father ,you have seen the Son"! "My kingdom is not of this world".

Baptism of The Holyspirit.

Part 3. with corrections.

We see the work of the spirit through the baptism of the Holyspirit in Ephesians.

Often people debate if baptism by water is essential for salvation as well as can you loose your salvation. if what's mentioned in Ephesians is not present in your life it's possible you never had salvation.

Everyone dipped in water wasn't internally cleaned, never was the old man crucified and no evidence of the New Man.

Fruitless , Still dead in trespass and sins!!

BECAUSE WATER BAPTISM IS JUST AN CEREMONIAL OUTWARD EXPRESSION OF WHAT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE ONCE AND IF YOU ( TRULY) BELIEVED.

Did you notice Verse 5?

Ephesians 4:4-5. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

5) "One Lord, one faith, ONE BAPTISM,"

Does that mean water baptism and Baptism of the Holyspirit is one of the same? NO!

JOHN SAYS HE BAPTIZED WITH WATER BUT CHRIST WILL BAPTIZE YOU WITH THE HOLYSPIRIT!!

Water baptism is a ceremonial profession of your faith.

And "IF" your profession was real only then you will see spiritual growth through feeding on the word.

No longer tossed to and fro by strange doctrine. Trying to understand scripture through the wisdom of the world, so called "common sense" fleshly minds, God's word will be written on your Fleshly Tables of the heart. Not a heart of stone!! This in the inner Man!! and A New life!

Not to perfection but A true heart pursuing it.

And God Judge the heart.

GOD BLESS.

Baptism of The Holyspirit.

We see the work of the spirit through the baptism of the Holyspirit in Ephesians.

Of people debate if baptism by water is essential for salvation as well as can you loose your salvation. if what's mentioned in Ephesians is not present in your life it's possible you never had salvation.

Everyone dipped in water wasn't internally cleaned, never was the old man crucified and no evidence of the New Man.

Fruitless , Still dead in trespass and sins!!

BECAUSE WATER BAPTISM IS JUST AN CEREMONIAL OUTWARD EXPRESSION OF WHAT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE ONCE AND IF YOU ( TRULY) BELIEVED.

Did you notice Verse 5?

Ephesians 4:4-5. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

5) "One Lord, one faith, ONE BAPTISM,"

Does that mean water baptism and means the same? NO!

JOHN SAYS HE BAPTIZED WITH WATER BUT CHRIST WILL BAPTIZE YOU WITH THE HOLYSPIRIT!!

Water baptism is a ceremonial profession of your faith.

And "IF" your profession was real only then you will see spiritual growth through feeding on the word.

No longer tossed to and fro by strange doctrine. Trying to understand scripture through the wisdom of the world, so called "common sense" fleshly minds, God's word will be written on your Fleshly Tables of the heart. Not a heart of stone!! This in the inner Man!! and A New life!

Not to perfection but A true heart pursuing it.

And God Judge the heart.

GOD BLESS.

The road that leads to salvation is made of gold. How you find it ,waits right in front of you!

Baptism of the Holyspirit.

Part 2.

Ephesians 4:16-32. FROM WHOM THE WHOLE BODY FITLY JOINED TOGETHER AND COMPACTED BY THAT WHICH EVERY JOINT SUPPLIETH, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, MAKETH INCREASE OF THE BODY UNTO THE EDIFYING OF ITSELF IN LOVE.

This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

But ye have not so learned Christ;

If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

THAT YE PUT OFF CONCERNING THE FORMER CONVERSATION THE OLD MAN, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

( AND BE RENEWED IN THE SPIRIT OF YOUR MIND;)

AND THAT YE PUT ON THE NEW MAN, WHICH AFTER GOD IS CREATED IN RIGHTEOUSNESS AND (TRUE HOLINESS.)

Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: (FOR WE ARE MEMBERS ONE OF ANOTHER.)

Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

Neither give place to the devil.

Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

AND GRIEVE NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD, (WHEREBY YE ARE SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION.)

Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:

And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

ALLL THIS WORK IS ACCOMPLISHED "THROUGH" THE SPIRIT BY BAPTISM OF THE HOLYSPIRIT.

SEE PART 3

There is going to be a wedding!

This wedding you are all invited!

The day has come ,He will come as he left, In the clouds ,so the whole world at one time will see Him!

The church is whom He comes for!

Which 1? How many? many?

Which one is determined by you!

His church is not made with hands, this temple of God He speaks of is within you!

The oil that shines this light is what you must have.

Your lamp must be ready and full. This oil is the faith that will provide the light to the door !You cannot enter without it, Your light must shine when He comes!

Oh virgin of faith, He comes for you! Will you be ready? My beloved do u here His word?

Part 1.

BAPTISM OF THE HOLYSPIRIT.

An ( INWARD) WORK OF GOD through the Holyspirit Identifying us with the death and resurrection of Christ.

WATER BAPTISM.

An ( OUTWARDLY) testimony expressed by you testifying you believe what's mentioned above is to be true and a work of God.

Here's the work of the baptism of the Holyspirit spirit ( IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE)

You will see the death and resurrection and newness of life in these verses!

Ephesians 4:1-15. I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

One Lord, one faith, "ONE BAPTISM,"

One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, AND IN YOU ALL.

But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

Wherefore he saith, When he ASCENDED up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also DESCENDED first into the lower parts of the earth?

He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, THAT HE MIGHT FILL ALL THINGS.)

AND HE GAVE some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, FOR THE EDIFYING OF THE BODY OF CHRIST:

Till we all come in the UNITY of the faith, and of the KNOWLEDGE of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

THAT WE HENCEFORTH BE NO MORE CHILDREN, TOSSED TO AND FRO, AND CARRIED ABOUT WITH EVERY WIND OF DOCTRINE, BY THE SLEIGHT OF MEN, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

BUT SPEAKING THE TRUTH IN LOVE, MAY GROW UP INTO HIM IN in ALL THINGS, WHICH IS THE HEAD, EVEN CHRIST:

SEE PART 2.