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  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Part 3.

    3, And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

    This is one powerful verse: "And this is life eternal." This was the primary purpose of Jesus' mission: the immortality of the Father came to earth, manifested in Jesus, and eternal life which God the Father alone possesses, 1 Timothy 6:16.

    God was revealed in the flesh of His only Son, Jesus. What is eternal was manifested in the world and is now available to us. This eternal life is given that we might know the only true God and His Son Jesus Christ, whom His Father sent, 1 John 4:7-16.

    There are 38 times in the gospels where Jesus said God sent Him, the most expressive is in John 7:16-29. When Jesus was sent, it was first for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, Matthew 15:24, at the fullness of time, for those under the law, Galatians 4:4-5. This was part of God's plan from the beginning and happened at the fullness of time.

    In 1 John 5:20, John says Jesus gave them understanding that they should know the Son of God, the Messiah has come, and that we should know the true God, and we are in Him, the true God, and in the Son of Him that is the only God from whom eternal life comes. Paul says the same in 1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. God, the Father, of whom are all things, "of whom are" Greek ek" or "ex" indicates the origin or source. "Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, Greek dia ho, he, to pas, on the account of Jesus are all things.

    See part 4.
  • Ronald Whittemore - 1 year ago
    Is our soul or spirit immortal?

    Part 2

    The Bible consistently indicates that souls can die and cease to exist. For example, Matthew 10:28, it mentions that the soul can be destroyed, implying it is not immortal. The Greek word translated as soul is psuche, which has several meanings, including the vital breath, the breath of life, the human soul, the soul as the seat of affections and will, consciousness, a human person. Essentially, it includes who we are, and is inseparable.

    This does not happen until we are resurrected, when Jesus Christ returns, it is a gift of God, Romans 2:5-7. Immortality is not given until the resurrection from the dead, only then will we be absent from this flesh and blood body and present with the Lord, Revelation 19:11-21, Revelation 20:1-6. The Bible never describes the soul of man as immortal or eternal. We die and are buried mortal, dead in corruption, and we will be raised incorruptible, 1 Corinthians 15:42-44. Every part of us is mortal, and we must put on immortality, 1 Corinthians 15:52-54.

    The spirit: The spirit is the breath of life given to us by God, in Luke 25:46 Jesus said to His Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit. In Acts 7:59, Stephen said Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. The spirit empowers us to experience God's profound love, it is through the spirit that we are empowered to live according to the ways of God, embracing righteousness and walking in His ways, in God's Spirit, the Holy Spirit, rather than walking in the ways of the world.

    Our spirit is how we communicate with God, Job 32:8, Proverbs 20:27, John 4:24, 1 Corinthians 2:10-12. God inspires or motivates us by stirring up the spirit in a person, 1 Chronicles 5:25-26. God inspired King Cyrus to issue a decree, allowing the Jews to return to Jerusalem, Ezra 1:1.

    See part 3
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I've been following this discussion Steve421, and though I have nothing substantial to offer, my own understanding as I read my KJB is: when a word is given in Italics, that word is not in the original manuscripts, but added by the translators to give the sentence/verse meaning in English. One can still assume a meaning without the italicized words, but the translators probably wanted to ensure that the reader was understanding the verse as they themselves did, and not applying our own meaning.

    Where a verse (or part thereof) is in parenthesis, again, I don't believe that was ever used in the original language. Therefore, I simply understand their use as given by the translators (in whichever KJB edition that was done), to indicate their belief that the verse in question was deemed as being complementary to the subject matter being dealt with. We see this in John 1:14, John 4:2, Romans 3:8, Ephesians 4:9.10, and others. So, the "thought within a thought" understanding could be seen in these examples, where the parenthesized portions are clearly in the original, but brackets later applied by the translators to give us understanding of what they themselves were reading & working through. So whether brackets are applied or not, it should not make one iota of a difference to the accuracy of the texts, as all of it forms the Word of God. Only the italicized words are the 'extras' that could be read with some care, if one chooses to do so for textual examination purposes.
  • Bronco wildtrak 1 - 1 year ago
    Part 3

    Apostle Paul warns us of falsely accuse of our good conversation in Christ.

    1 Peter 3:16

    Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed thatfalsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.

    Apostle Peter in the Tribulation warn his Jewish followers of false prophets.

    2 Peter 2:1

    But there werefalseprophets also among the people, even as there shall befalseteachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

    Saint John warns us in the Tribulation of false prophets.

    1 John 4:1

    Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because manyfalseprophets are gone out into the world.

    Saint John warns the Jewish followers of false prophets.

    Revelation 16:13

    And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of thefalseprophet.

    We are in the Church age of grace, we do not have prophets to deliver us the word of God and we do not a apostles to give us another revelation to add to the Bible.

    Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

    Apostle Paul is our Apostle for today
  • Bronco wildtrak 1 - 1 year ago
    Should we go to church on Sunday ? ?

    What day should we worship God in the church ? ? Is it Saturday or Sunday ? ? Some people will be shocked to find out that we were wrong all theses years.

    God rested on Saturday, it's that our worship day ? ?

    Genesis 2:2

    And on the seventh dayGodended his work which he had made; and herestedon the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

    Did Apostle Paul collected a offering on the first day of the week. Does that mean we should go to church of Sunday ? ?

    1 Corinthians 16:2

    Uponthefirstdayoftheweeklet every oneofyou lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, thatthere be no gatherings when I come.

    We know that Jesus Christ died for all our sins and rose the third day, but do we really know it was Sunday ? ?

    1 Corinthians 15:4

    And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

    Today, there's is not a date or time to worship Jesus Christ. Everyone should worship Jesus Christ every second, every minute, everyday and every year in the Godhead.

    John 4:24

    Godis a Spirit: and they thatworshiphim mustworshiphim in spirit and in truth.

    May we remember that the church is the body of Christ in us.

    Colossians 1:24

    Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behindofthe afflictionsofChrist in my flesh for hisbody's sake, which is thechurch:

    Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

    The body of Christ is the church
  • Bronco wildtrak 1 - 1 year ago
    Should we baptize a baby ? ? I got baptized as a baby and don't remember it and didn't understand it . As a grown man, I got baptized twice, but I was still confused why we had to do it. The church told me it wasn't for Salvation, it's a membership and an example of Jesus Christ resurrection.

    1 Corinthians 1:17

    For Christ sent me not tobaptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made ofnoneeffect.

    Jesus Christ only baptized his disciples only.

    John 4:2

    (ThoughJesushimselfbaptizednot, but his disciples,)

    The baptism of Moses was not water, the Jews walk the sea on dry land.

    1 Corinthians 10:2

    And were allbaptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

    Apollos only knew the Baptist of John. John baptized in water .

    Acts 18:25

    Thismanwas instructed in thewayofthe Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the thingsofthe Lord, knowing only the baptismofJohn

    My question is, why are we baptizing a baby when they don't understand. I don't believe that Jesus Christ was baptize as a baby ?

    Romans 6:3

    Know ye not, that so many of us as werebaptizedintoJesusChrist werebaptizedinto his death?

    Today, we are baptized by the Holy Spirit, the minute we believe the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 .

    1 Corinthians 12:13

    For by one Spirit are we allbaptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

    May we all believe that baptism is in the Holy Spirit by believing the gospel of grace.

    Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

    The Holy Spirit baptized me into Christ Jesus by believing the gospel.
  • Bronco wildtrak 1 - 1 year ago
    Part 2

    Once and man and a woman touch each other, they become husband and wife. Jesus Christ said to the Samaritans woman, you have five husbands.

    John 4:18

    For thou hast hadfivehusbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.

    We all know that the New Testament speaks of one husband and one wife in marriage. The Old Testament, there were man with more wife's.

    1 Corinthians 7:3

    Let thehusbandrender unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto thehusband.

    It's really comes down to what doctrine are we going to follow to live a great Christian life, I choose the Apostle Paul's epistle because he was chosen from the ascended Lord Jesus Christ.

    Acts 2:34

    For David is notascendedinto the heavens: but he saith himself, TheLordsaid unto myLord, Sit thou on my right hand,

    Acts 9:15

    But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is achosenvesselunto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

    Apostle Paul always writes to believers in all his epistles.

    Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

    I love my gospel of grace
  • S Spencer - 1 year ago
    Ephesians 4:4-6

    "There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

    One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

    One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, AND IN YOU ALL.

    It reasonable to say this is the Holyspirit by which we are Identified with the Lord by way of Christ death, burial and ressurection.

    Also, the Holy Spirit is God's spirit.

    The Holyspirit is Identified as "HE" not "IT"

    1 John 4:4.

    Romans 8:10-11 ect..

    He's also called a "Quickening spirit"

    1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.



    NOTE; "was made" is in italics, meaning it was added. It should read, "the last Adam a quickening spirit. This refers to Jesus. He wasn't made a quickening spirit.

    Was Christ's spirit in existence before he took on flesh? Before we answer this we must take in consideration there is "one Spirit" and the Spirit gives life! He was never born!

    The Spirit of Christ is the same Spirit of God.

    Romans 8:9 reads "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELL IN YOU. NOW IF ANY MAN HAVE NOT THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, HE IS NONE OF HIS.

    1 Peter 1:10-11 says it was Christ Spirit that was in the OT Prophet's that testified of the suffering of Christ.

    "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:

    Searching what, or what manner of time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

    I believe here is a clear picture of the Father, Son and Holyspirit as one and the pre existence of the triune God.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Fuji,

    Was Jesus in heaven before creation? My understanding is no. Many will say Jesus is part of a Triune God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, three distinct persons, all co-equal, and co-eternal so that would put Him in heaven before creation.

    God is a Spirit John 4:24, so if Jesus were in heaven His form would be Spirit. Are there verses on their own that would support the Trinity, yes. But we must keep a verse in context and compare it to other Scriptures about the same subject and not start with the answer, or a preconceived idea. We should let the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit give us the answer and meaning.

    A few thoughts. In John 1:1 what beginning is John referring to, the beginning of creation or the beginning of Jesus's ministry, when He was anointed with the Holy Ghost becoming the Messiah, Matthew 4:16-17. We see the same introduction in 1 John 1:1 and others. In Revelation 19:13 Jesus's name is called the Word of God is that saying Jesus is God?

    God was manifested in Jesus through the Holy Spirit, 1 John 1:1, Luke 4:18, John 14:10. The life eternal that was with God was manifested on earth through Jesus that we may fellowship with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ 1 John 1:2-7.

    I will not go on and on but to me, there is one problem the Trinity doctrine creates I cannot find an answer.

    God is perfect and cannot change, in the doctrine that would be the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The law was made for man and a man had to fulfill it. A man who could sin had to live a perfect life without sin to pay the penalty. Jesus did and paid the penalties for sin with His death. God cannot die and God cannot sin nor can He be tempted James 1:13, so He could not fulfill the law. Jesus was born without sin as the first Adam but could sin, the first Adam was not obedient and sinned. The last Adam, Jesus, was obedient to the Father and sinned not Romans 5:19. If God sacrificed Himself John 3:16 is not true.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Bronco wildtrak 1 - 1 year ago
    Part 1

    What is the Holy Ghost or the Holy Spirit ? They are the same in one .

    The Holy Spirit talks in the book of Acts, a transitional book of history.

    Acts 8:29

    Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.

    Acts 10:19

    While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.

    The Holy Spirit is a male person.

    Acts 13:2

    As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them

    The Holy Spirit has a body shape .

    Luke 3:22

    And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

    The Holy Spirit got Mother Mary pregnant.

    Matthew 1:18

    Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

    The Holy Spirit is a God.

    John 4:24

    Godisa Spirit: and they that worship him must worshiphimin spirit and in truth.

    Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 may God bless you with the Holy Spirit .
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Page 1.

    Hello Fuji. If I might share something with you on this very important doctrine. Now this is coming from another aspect of God's Nature; so my question, "Concerning the Holy Spirit, how is God the Father able to send forth His Spirit without Himself becoming deficient in any way? Or, If God is Spirit ( John 4:24), does that mean that God has now come into the world & is therefore absent from His Throne in Heaven?"

    Your consideration & response to these questions forms the basis of how God can send forth Himself to fulfil His Will, without suffering deficiency in His Person or thwarting His Plans. Therefore, my belief is that God is able to do this (i.e. sending out His Spirit), just as He is able to send out His Word and give His Word flesh (humanity): John 1:1-14. This is all very mysterious to our human finite minds as we have nothing that we can relate to it, in this world or by human logic. Now, if I could cause my spirit to leave my body & perform my Will elsewhere (which I can't do), then I believe that my body would instantly become lifeless (for the human spirit gives physical life to the body); but not so with God, for He is the Almighty Everlasting One & suffers no limitations in any way, as we do.

    Lastly, I appreciated your recent comment & challenge given to us from John 21:20-24: you wrote (in part): "We need to trust what the Bible actually says, not what we think it says". Since both you & I read from the same Scriptures, I find that to trust the Bible in what it says & not what I imagine (or hope) it says, can only first be initiated if we take up the volume of Scripture that speak to us on that subject. If we only had verses declaring the Sonship of Jesus (as you have written about), then I would readily believe that Jesus was a creation of God, through Mary, for the Sacrifice of our sins. Onto Page 2.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Brother Ronald.

    I agree in all that you have said.

    Here's what I have on how many of each type of animal went into the ark with Noah,

    In Genesis 6:19 it reads "And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.

    Genesis 7:2-3 reads "Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

    Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.

    So, was there two of each animal or seven of each animal that were to be brought to the ark?

    The seven of each animal were clean animals-to be used for sacrifice as well as for food.

    The remainder of the animals that went to the ark included a male and a female.

    This is explained in Genesis 7:8-9. "Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth,

    There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah."

    This is what I've gathered from Scripture and the only way I have heard it explained.

    Preconceived notions doesn't always come from denominations and man's tradition passed down over the years. It can come from self ambition and bad hermeneutics.

    However you can certainly hinder your spiritual growth and understanding if you solely rely on clippings of the early church and internet findings. (NOT SAYING IT'S ALL BAD) But that's not feeding and studying the word. It's studying history.

    AGAIN, It's not bad to know the history but it's not to be a substitute or an atlas to the truth in the word of God.

    There has been division in the church on several topics since the Apostles. Paul speaks of this in Acts 20:39-30.

    And John in 1 John 4:3.

    Blessings.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Timmywynne. There are many Scriptures that point to the Triune Nature of God, and specifically, that Jesus Christ & the Holy Spirit are revealed to us from the very Being of God the Father. When we think of the Trinity, we know we won't find that word in the Bible, as it is purely a descriptive word of what the Bible declares to be the fullness of God's Being. So to the verses you seek, and you will need to read them fully in your Bible.

    Of Jesus Christ: Isaiah 9:6,7 (an Old Testament Prophecy); Micah 5:2 & John 1:1-14 (from everlasting); Matthew 1:22,23; Mark 2:5-7; John 8:56-58; John 16: 27,28; John 17:4,5; John 20:27,28; Philippians 2:5-7; Colossians 1:15-17; Colossians 2:9; 1 Timothy 3:16; Titus 3:13; Hebrews 1:1-3; Hebrews 1:8-10; 1 John 5:7; 1 John 5:20.

    Of the Holy Spirit: Matthew 12:31; Luke 1:34,35; Luke 11:13; John 14:26; John 15:26; John 16:7-11; Acts 5:3; Acts 8:29; Acts 13:4; Romans 8:14; Romans 8:26,27; 1 Corinthians 2:10-14; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 1 Corinthians 6:19; 1 Corinthians 12:11; Ephesians 4:30; Hebrews 10:29; 2 Peter 1:21; 1 John 5:6.

    The above are a few Scriptures that point to the deity of Jesus Christ & God's Spirit: all showing that they don't work independently from God, but have been sent out from God, from God's Being, to accomplish His Purposes in the world. And we know that Jesus, as the Word of God clothed with humanity, is the very expression of God to the world ( John 14:9; 1 Timothy 3:16; 1 John 4:2). Hope these will help you in your study of this very important doctrine. Blessings.
  • KidinChrist - In Reply - 1 year ago
    S Spencer,

    Thanks for the insightful input. In conclusion, God love for mankind is absolutely immeasurable.

    1st precept:"Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into." 1 Peter

    1:12. 2nd precept: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Genesis 1:27

    God loves all his creation of mankind, but for those with a reprobate mind and chose to live in sin intentionally and refuses to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ and never will, (worker of iniquity) God hates... unless they sincerely turn from evil and try to live a life to follow Christ according to the biblical texts "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me." Psalms 51:10).

    God love is present regardless, because God is love, but His love for mankind is welcomed with open arms if we choose Him:

    "Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him." John 4:7-9.

    -Peace and blessings
  • KidinChrist - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Chris,

    Thanks for the insightful input. In conclusion, God love for mankind is absolutely immeasurable.

    1st precept:"Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into." 1 Peter

    1:12. 2nd precept: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Genesis 1:27

    God loves all his creation of mankind, but for those with a reprobate mind and chose to live in sin intentionally and refuses to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ and never will, (worker of iniquity) God hates... unless they sincerely turn from evil and try to live a life to follow Christ according to the biblical texts "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me." Psalms 51:10).

    God love is present regardless, because God is love, but His love for mankind is welcomed with open arms if we choose Him:

    "Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him." John 4:7-9.

    -Peace and blessings
  • Bronco wildtrak - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Fuji thank you for sharing John chapter 4. I can read this chapter and find so much wisdom.

    I find this very interesting because Apostle Paul didn't baptize many people. " 1 Corinthians 1:17

    For Christ sent me not tobaptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. "

    John 4:2

    (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)

    It amaze me that she claim Jacob as of her father and was not even a Jew herself. " Romans 2:29

    But he is aJew, which is oneinwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. "

    John 4:12

    Art thou greater than our fatherJacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?

    Because Jesus told her, she had five husbands, she believed the more. " Proverbs 15:3

    The eyes of theLordare in every place, beholding theevilandthegood. "

    John 4:18

    For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly

    When God made Adam and Eve, they were both soul and spirit first. God made them at the same time. " Genesis 1:27

    So God createdmanin his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. "

    John 4:24

    God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    Jesus had a command to the twelve: " Matthew 10:5

    These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commandedthem, saying,GonotintothewayoftheGentiles, and into any cityoftheSamaritans enter yenot: "

    John 4:27

    And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her?

    John 4:42

    And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

    The Bible is a great book and is alive ...
  • Bronco wildtrak - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I will pray for you Ruben. Jesus Christ is coming and the Devil knows it. Keep up the faith and finish the race of the Grace of God.

    Without the Holy Spirit, it would be difficult to live a Christian life . The word is the Holy Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ that lives in the believer .

    Galatians 5:16

    This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh

    Ephesians 1:13

    In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holySpiritof promise,

    Ephesians 2:18

    For through him we both have access by oneSpiritunto the Father.

    Ephesians 2:22

    In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through theSpirit.

    Ephesians 3:16

    That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by hisSpiritin the inner man;

    Ephesians 4:30

    And grieve not the holySpiritof God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption

    Ephesians 5:9

    (For the fruit of theSpiritis in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

    Ephesians 6:17

    And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of theSpirit, which is the word of God:

    Ephesians 6:18

    Praying always with all prayer and supplication in theSpirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

    John 16:13

    Howbeit when he, theSpiritof truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

    John 4:24

    God is aSpirit: and they that worship him must worship him inspiritand in truth.
  • GiGi - 1 year ago
    Next section:

    How lovely is this verse in Lamentations to the ears of forgiven sinners who believe the gospel and put their faith in Jesus Christ!

    GOD'S COMPASSION

    Pt. 1

    Compassion is deep empathy towards those in need. It is concern, sympathy and pity for the suffering of others and a desire to alleviate their suffering.

    Compassion is being moved in the affections of our inner being when we see the distress of others, coupled with a subsequent outer movement of action in which we seek to alleviate that distress out of love for God and love for neighbor.

    The most important object this word is used to describe is God Himself. God is the root and foundation, the spring and fountainhead, of all true compassion (1 John 4:16). God's compassion is extolled throughout the Bible. Below are two particularly pertinent passages.

    "Who is a God like you, pardoning iniquity and passing over transgression for the remnant of his inheritance? He does not retain his anger forever, because he delights in steadfast love. He will again have compassion on us; he will tread our iniquities underfoot. You will cast all our sins into the depths of the sea" ( Micah 7:18-19).

    God's compassion is related to His mercy, kindness, patience, grace, forgiveness, and love. In fact, some of these attributes are so related and interwoven as to make clear demarcations between them difficult.

    God's compassion compels Him to take action. He is not an impotent observer, nor is He unmoved by our sufferings and enslavement to sin. He is the omnipotent sovereign ruler of the universe ( Romans 9:14-16) and in Christ He suffers with us when we suffer ( Hebrews 4:15).

    For sufferers, one of the most hope-giving promises is Christ's assurance, "I am with you" ( Matt. 28:20).

    See Pt. 2
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (1 Corinthians Part 20a):

    1 Corinthians 12:30 - Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

    The answer to all these is no! There are groups today that teach that speaking in tongues is confirmation that you're saved. And when you relate to them that it says here that not everybody speaks in tongues, we must ask how does that work?

    They have no idea that the answer is included right in the actual question itself! Their answer is yes. But no, they are wrong because the text says no! Do all interpret, that is, explain languages? Nope! Not everybody has everything. We are all various parts.

    1 Corinthians 13:1 - Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

    He starts out by saying "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity," The word charity in the King James text is the word AGAPE in Greek. And there are different words in Greek for different kinds of love. Over the years, the church has relegated Agape to be something special. But not that special, because we think we can produce it!

    Agape is the fruit of God's Spirit according to Galatians 5:22, "But the fruit of the Spirit is love." And that word love is Agape. God's Spirit produces Agape. 1 John 4:8 tells us that God is Agape. It's His nature. Agape love includes sacrifice. Agape is the concern for someone's spiritual welfare. God exhibited that toward us in that "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son."
  • David0921 - 1 year ago
    THE BIBLE (part 2)

    The King James Version is not a perfect translation, but it is translated from the oldest manuscripts and we have access to the tools (concordances, interlinears, dictionaries) which are keyed to the KJV to check the translators and check the original text as necessary. The Bible is its own interpreter.

    1 Corinthians 2:13 declares:

    "Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual."

    The Bible is a spiritual book because God who is the author is Spirit, and they that worship God must worship him in Spirit and in truth ( John 4:24).

    The primary reason that natural man is unable to discern the spiritual things of God is because man by nature is spiritually dead, as we read in 1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

    Ephesians 2:1-9 "And you hath he quickened [made alive], who were dead in trespasses and sins; Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air [Satan], the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation [manner of living] in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us [made us alive] together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of works lest any man should boast.

    More in part 3
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 1 year ago
    John 4:24 tells it all,
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Q&A "The Ark"

    Q: If Ark is intended simply as a chest, the body of a believer can be called an ark. Does it not?

    A: Yes if the body is born of the incorruptible Word. In Joseph's case he was anointed before the Israelites "embalmed him, and he was put in a coffin in Egypt."(Ge.50:25-26). In v.25 we read that "And Joseph took an oath of the children of Israel, saying, God will surely visit you, and ye shall carry up my bones from hence./So Joseph died." He had faith that he was created 'after our likeness' so he died in hope. "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever" is our hope since Jesus Christ the captain of our salvation has gone before us. (1 Pe.1:23) God chose Joseph before he was born and his dreams are clear indication of it, and the Spirit includes it for our edification. He was hated by his brethren without a cause as Jesus was. The Hebrew word Aron is an ark, which when associated with Egyptian funerary purposes is called Canopic jar. It is in this sense Joseph deemed his bones for his after life. Our body is a tabernacle, built without hands which liveth Jesus Christ.

    "And the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant" (He.9:4). What does manna signify for a new creation? "My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work." ( John 4:34) The tables of the covenant is the Law as we read in the Psalm,"I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart."(Ps.40:8). Aaron's rod is our abiding life in Christ so the same power of resurrection that worked with Jesus, - in all things he might have the pre-eminence explains the ark of his testimony. "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament."(Re.11:19)
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Q&A "The Spirit of Antichrist"

    Q: Devil also believes that God is one and trembles. What makes the spirit of antichrist different?

    A:St Paul defines the spirit of Christ which is of God. "Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God."(1 Co.2:12). The spirit of the world runs under the law of sin. The devil may believe God is one but in following his own will he resists the Word. So are those who say they believe Jesus Christ came in flesh of God. But in denying the power thereof they quench the spirit that is freely given of God."And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world./Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world." (1 John 4:3-4)

    The Bible sets the fulness of God in Jesus Christ. By denying the covenant between God and his Son what do imposter churches teach? Blessings of God to Abraham as the basis renders the entire scripture out of focus. God blessed man who is created after our image and after our likeness. Ep.1:3-4. "That we may know" requires understanding which is the knowledge of the holy.
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Q&A "Falling away"

    Q: Before the man of sin be revealed there shall be falling away first, so says St Paul. How does it affect a believer abiding in Christ?

    A: In no way it shall affect us. "Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."(1 John 4:4). The base line for new creation began in the day heavens and the earth were created. The fullness of God in Christ was part of the world made to appear by his word. So when we received his Son whom he had sent we are part of the work of God already. ( John 6:29).

    This is however holds true in the divine Will of God. The seven days under which we have been created we have to confirm by faith. So in the world made to appear we have to fulfil the aspect of 'after our image and after our likeness' by our own free will. It is to this St Paul refers,"In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise." (Ep.1:13). Outpouring of the Spirit in Jerusalem was a sign for the world that with the coming of the Lord there shall be a gathering of those who have made a covenant with him by sacrifice. "Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice. (Ps.50:5; 2 The.2:1)

    In the epistle to the church of Thessalonians St Paul is addressing the church of God at large, that as he had feared shall fall away. So much so vv.3-4 have already occurred as many popes have claimed more glory than of God. St Paul is talking about the son of perdition, the beast "and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;/Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. "(2 The.2:3-4)
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    ( Eternal ) life.

    Part 9.

    Not only will the believer love those within the Christian fellowship, but there will also be a desire for those outside the fold to come to a saving knowledge of Christ. It is impossible for Christ, the One who died for sinners, to be in the heart and there not be a longing for the salvation of sinners. A sterile and frigid Christian is not likely to experience the sweetness and joy of full assurance, but a vital Christian, who knows something of the Savior's compassion, will find the joy of belonging and an abiding experience.

    Conscious of Being His Child.

    A consciousness that we are children of God comes to the soul and says that we are the sons of God. This is the gracious work of the Spirit of God and not the product of psychological presumption.

    By this know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. (1 John 4:13)

    This does not mean that we are conscious of the presence of the Holy Spirit, but it does mean that we are conscious of the work of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit does not speak of Himself, but He speaks of Christ:

    Nevertheless, when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth; for he shall not speak of himself, but whatever he shall hear, that shall he speak; and he will show you things to come. ( John 16:13)

    Part of the work of the Holy Spirit is to make us conscious that we are the children of God.

    The Spirit himself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God. ( Romans 8:16)

    There is a counterfeit humility going the rounds today, and it sounds very pious, but it does not have the ring of the genuine. Some say that we are to grovel in the dust and act like worms - this is the modern way of putting on sackcloth and ashes. It is true that we are sinners; there is no good within us, no good comes out of us, and we have nothing in which to glory save the cross of Christ.

    See Part 10.
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    John 4:23-24 "I am he"

    "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth" In the short dialogue the Samaritan woman expresses the significance of being a living soul. She had an inkling of the truth and she needed Jesus to enlighten her. "

    Blessings come from the greater to the lesser. " Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ." (Ep.1:3-) Holiness of God expresses love. So God anoints Jesus "Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."(Ps.45:7) This prophesy concerns Jesus the Anointed one.' For God loved the world sends 'the only begotten Son' indicating that he is the Word made flesh,

    The covenant between God and Man as referred by St Paul in the above mentioned takes place in heavenly places, "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love." Predestination is merely a theological term to define this choice is according to his purpose,"to the good pleasure of his will,". God is a Spirit so the laws upholding his holiness is spiritual. These laws state what is holy and what is good. Being conformed in the image of his Son gives love a human face.

    While heaven was made to appear according to his 'good pleasure' the Son also had his part."The same was in the beginning with God./All things were made by him;..../ In him was life; and the life was the light of men." Upon the template of the divine Will the unseen aspects of His holiness is made to appear. As the Father of lights the separation of light from darkness is sanctified by the Law of the Spirit. Consequently Jesus Christ the Word made flesh is the true Light,"which lighteth every man that cometh into the world." Those who failed to see it as such were led by the law of sin,- the children of wrath.
  • RED APPLE TREATY 4 ME ONLY - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I have believed Jesus Christ is God and have had faith practicing and speaking into existence these ways With Insurance of God I John 4:18 KJV , Isaiah 41:10 KJV , Psalms 27:1 KJV, Deuteronomy 3:22 KJV, Assurance of God Romans 8:31-39 KJV which is a plus benefits,rewards, offered I accept to rely on God's love and overcome fear ,sickness and death.

    Published by REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
  • RED APPLE TREATY 4 ME ONLY - 1 year ago
    Luke 8:50 KJV

    But when Jesus heard it, he answered him, saying, Fear not: believe only, and she shall be made whole.

    Overcoming fear, sickening and death Relying on God's Love

    Insurance of God

    I John 4:18 KJV

    Isaiah 41:10 KJV

    Psalms 27:1 KJV

    Deuteronomy 3:22 KJV

    Assurance of God

    Romans 8:31-39 KJV

    39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Ways you can rely on God's love and overcome sickness, and death are recognizing God's presence,. Trusting in his sovereignty, boistering our faith, and embracing his love. Reading your holy bilble, praying having thoughts of God that your heart will be at.( Jeremiah 29:11 NKJV)

    Have healthy relationships with God enjoying healthy relationships with one another.

    Having Christian morals, man and woman of you word and virtue. Always tell the truth. Treat others as you want to be treated confirming yourself in the image of God. That God exists. You and your thoughts becoming existence/like God Jeremiah 29:11 NKJV, Genesis 1:27 KJV his son, daughter, or children.

    What not to do to rely on God love and overcome fearsickness , and death is to be bitter and harm others, steal, cheat, liar, not working correctly.

    Keeping mind,mean,motivation of God

    Mind- Ideas, capacity, wisdom, thinking, attitude,

    Mean- method, opportunity, Howvto (know how), way, process ( techniques)

    Motivation- Empowerment, Persitance, Strength, Passion, Inspiration.

    I have believed Jesus Christ is God and have had faith practicing and speaking into existence these ways to rely on God's love and overcome fear ,sickness and death.

    Published and Word spoken.by REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    GIGI

    My comment on your post to the Giannis starts saying:Based in the Word of GOD(not mine), the Spirit of Truth speaks nothing from him himself- John 16:13,right? In my analyse,I saw Giannis was not receiving a true interpretation according the Spirit of Truth in Matthew 4:2 I quoted.

    You said:"Scripture never says that Satan knew all about Jesus",it's you're saying.Scripture says he is full of wisdom,an anointed Cherub,GOD have set him so,he was upon the holy mountain of GOD walking in the midst of the STONES of fire,perfect from the day he was created,till iniquity was found in him-Ez.28.

    THERE IS NO SECRET THAT THEY CAN HIDE FROM HIM-Ez.28:3,so he is the main Enemy of JESUS and believers in JESUS.

    You said"Satan does not know what is in people's minds",but is this true?Satan did put in the mind of Eve-Gen.3:5-6-GOD doth know that eating fruit good and evil the eyes shall be opened,and shall be as gods(as angels)knowing good and evil. 6 When Eve saw that the tree(THE MESSAGE)was good for food,and it was pleasant to the eyes,and a tree(A MESSAGE)to be desired to make one wise,she took of the fruit(believed)and gave(commented)also unto her husband (both talked about things Satan had said,both believed in him);and Adam did eat(believed in the Devil),both believed in the things Satan did put in their mind.

    How can you fight against Satan and his messengers- Revelation 12:7-,if you know not well Satan,neither his messengers?This is very danger,for we wrestle not against flesh and blood,but against principalities,and Powers,and the rulers of the darkness of this world,against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    Finally you"think that I spiritualize Scripture to fit my mind",who did put this in your mind?now,the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,GOD is Spirit- John 4:24 combined with John 6:63-64, mainly Matthew 10:20, understand?take a look.

    The letter kills,the Spirit gives life,you should post to Giannis by the Spirit, not by the letter, the letter kills the souls.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    John (Part 8):

    John 4:48 - Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

    Notice the "ye" in the text? It denotes plural, not just you, but everybody else that comes up to me, they come up to me because they see the signs, and you won't believe unless you see signs. And so, the nobleman's going to tell Him "Well that's probably true, but if you come down, you can heal him. So, Jesus sees that he is still not going to understand that the Lord can just speak the word. Jesus doesn't need to be there!

    John 5:1 - After this there was a feast of the Jews; and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.

    Period of time:

    It begins by saying "After this," META TOUTA in the Greek, and it means right after the incidents of Chapter 4, that there was a feast of the Jews; and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.

    Some manuscripts have "The Feast" of the Jews, meaning that it is Passover. Anyways, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. It was one of the three feasts that all Jewish males 20 and over were required to be at when these feasts are held in Jerusalem every year. So, Jesus goes up to Jerusalem at the feast.

    John 5:2 - Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having five porches.

    Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market, and in the Greek text is literally the sheep gate, and they are keeping the sheep in there for the Passover sacrifice. But anyway, near this sheep gate is a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having five porches.

    Bethesda means house of mercy. It plays a big part. John does not put in things just to give us information. It all has a part in the story and in the message.


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