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Hi Mary,

Consider that the KJV uses the word sleep for being dead awaiting Christ's return.

"Consider and hear me, O LORD my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death;" Psalms 13:3 KJV

"For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him." 1 Thessalonians 4:14 KJV

"These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep." John 11:11 KJV

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 KJV

"And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed." Romans 13:11 KJV

The Bible talks about a "day" of judgment, rather than people being judged sporadically.

"Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world." 1 John 4:17 KJV

And it says no one escapes judgment- people often think they skip this for some reason despite what the Bible says:

"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad." 2 Corinthians 5:10 KJV

So, when these verses are put together it seems like all will be judged on the same day (also consistent with the vision in Revelation) and that people won't go to heaven until they're first judged, and it then makes sense where it says the dead will rise to meet Jesus in the air. So, to me it all seems logical, what happens. Despite all this evidence in God's word, many people still prefer to believe something else that makes them feel good, however.

Hi Jimbob.

Thanks for responding and sorry for such a delay on my response back. I normally can't engage until the weekend due to my work schedule.

Here's my view on this.

We are the light of the world, (The oil filled Lamps.)

In 1 Thessalonians 5:3-5. we see this light mentioned in the believers in connection with the Day of the Lord. (As already established; "Not to be mistaken for the tribulation! but what is interesting is "If" the Holyspirit is taken out of the way/Removed and no longer restraining, then the children of light would become as those who sleep in the night!

He that comforts us, enlighten us and keeps us is no longer doing it and by nature we love Darkness. John 3:19.

Jesus says he will never leave us comfortless. John 14:16-20.

John 15:19. Because of this verse we should see it is not a worldly entity that desires or even capable of restraining evil.

We have three enemies that pushes back against Holiness, Our flesh, the world and the prince of the two, "Satan"

We have one source that empowers, but yet "PERMITS" That's the Holyspirit. We see the involvement and power of the Holyspirit shepherding his Church against these three enemies.

Romans 8:9-15. (The flesh)

1 John 4:4. (Satan)

John 14:16-20. (The World.).

2 Thessalonians 2:1-7. The subject here is the Thessalonians thought the day of the Lord was at hand! Paul says that day shall not come, except there come a apostasy first, and that man of sin be revealed. Paul goes on to say; Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

He is refering to 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. He is reminding them.

By the context of 1 Thessalonians and 2 Thessalonians, they knew the order of events Paul was telling them. 1st The rapture. 2nd The man of sin revealed. 3rd the day of the Lord. (Wherefore comfort one another with these words.)

The Church is removed and the Holyspirit operates as it did in the Old Testament.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 parallels with Matthew 24:15.

GB.

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My thinking is that anti-Christ is the personification of all things evil, even as Satan incarnate. Human govt might at the beginning oppose any threat to their existence & power by some foreign entity & so will give initial resistance. But if that devilish outcrop comes from within the govt framework, say a leader from an alliance of nations thus being more acceptable, then any opposing force cannot be from a human origin but from a spiritual origin. And since, we're seeing Satan being given free rein, when once the Holy Spirit's Presence in the Church was prohibiting him, it seems almost certain that only after the Spirit's removal can anti-Christ/the satanic govt make their entrance. And we know that the Holy Spirit does not move within the world but within those who belong to Jesus (1 John 4:4). But first, there must be a falling away (v3) - a sad indictment against the Church (or, the false representation of it) when even God's Presence is no longer required, loved or preached. Blessings brother & nice to see you back - you've been missed.

Very nicely laid out brother Chris!

Now look at the chronological order here in 2 Thessalonians 2:7-8."For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

"AND THEN SHALL THAT WICKED BE REVEALED", whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

This is the Holyspirit being removed and "then" the Antichrist shall be revealed!

The Holyspirit dwells in the body of believers unlike the way He worked and moved under the old covenant.

Jeremiah 31:31-34 and

Hebrews 10:16.

Mathew 28:18-20 says something interesting that we can tie into 2 Thessalonians 2:7-8.

"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, BAPTIZING THEM in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I AM WITH YOU ALWAY, EVEN UNTO THE END OF THE WORLD. Amen.

a) We're put into the body of believers "IDENTIFIED" With Christ.

Satan has ministers amongst us but Satan has no power over the Church!

Genesis 3:15. ( We are baptized into him that will bruise Satan's head.)

1 John 4:4. ( We have already overcome what's coming upon the world!)

Matthew 16:18. ( Gates in scripture is always used as defense. So who's on the offence and overcomes? The Church!! )

b) "I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen"

WE ARE BAPTIZED IN CHRIST AND HE WILL NEVER LEAVE US.

Unlike Judaism the Church is not looking for their Messiah. .

We have him with and in us!!

The deception performed by the Antichrist is one coming as their Messiah, and he will deceive many!!

That can't happen while the Church is in the world.

1 John 2:20-28.

Thanks Brother!

We're learning a lot from your teachings.

God bless you.

Hi DDGC. By definition, 'begotten', or 'beget', is similar to what the dictionary shows. But when used biblically, and I mean about Jesus (as in John 3:16,18; 1 John 4:9), it gives us the description as "ONLY begotten". And this is important, as in Greek, the word is 'monogenes', which means, 'one & only', or 'one (mono) of a kind (genos)'. And Jesus was like no other - there was never a human born on Earth, born of a virgin and Who also held the fullness of the Deity in His Person ( Colossians 2:9). We can rightly say that Jesus was indeed the 'only begotten of God'.

I love this web site. Praise God.

Hello Ruby,

I am not sure why you have asked me the question you did in this post. I don't really have a sure idea about the woman on the beast, to be honest. So, until I am more sure, I don't care to comment.

Concerning the consistent refutation and rejection of Gnosticism in the church, I believe this is one they got right. Gnosticism in the early church times saw the spirit as good and the flesh as evil, so they could not believe that Jesus actually took on flesh to save us. And so they believed that one is saved by receiving "higher knowledge" (gnosis) not from the Scriptures, but from spiritual experiences.

1 John 4:3 says that those who say that Jesus did not come in a flesh and blood body is antichrist.

The church over the centuries have consistently attested that Jesus is the only Savior. This is also correct.

The church over the centuries have consistently believed that Jesus was born of a virgin and conceived by the Holy Spirit, and that is correct according to Scriptures, too.

I could go on and on, but these few can demonstrate my point. I have more trust in the witness of the church concerning how to interpret the Bible that those who believe that they themselves can interpret by themselves alone the meaning of Scriptures, supposedly by the Holy Spirit. The heart is deceptive. That is why we need the witness of others.

For the record, I do not take the opinion of another concerning their own private interpretation of Scripture as valid on face value. I usually find that those who denounce the witness of the church over the centuries believe many false ideas about what Scripture means.

But thank you for responding. I always appreciate that.

Elizabeth,

For the believer, Jesus is our hope ( 1 Timothy 1:1), He is our peace ( Ephesians 2:14), He is the light of the world ( John 8:12), He is the good shepherd who gave His life for His sheep (All those who have surrendered their life to Him ( John 10:11), He is the head of the church ( Ephesians 1:22), He is the only one who sets us free from our sin ( John 8:36), He is our redeemer ( Job 19:25), He is the only atoning sacrifice for our sin (1 John 4:10), He is the Savior of those who receive Him ( Luke 2:11, John 1:12), He is the creator of all things ( Colossians 1:16-17, John 1:1-3), He is the word of God, and He is God ( John 1:1, Isaiah 9:6), He is our only way to salvation ( John 10:9, John 14:6).

There are many, many more descriptors in the Bible that tell us who Jesus is, but it would take many more posts to list them all.

What is the difference between true worship and false worship? Col 2: 16-20

One sort of church says, silence and solemnity is worship, and another, loud praise music and thanksgiving is worship.

Is worship not just holding a true reverence to God in our hearts? Would that consists as worship. No matter the form God chooses to use, through his children? John 4:23

1John 4:13-21, Psalms 56:3,4,11, Psalms 112, Psalms 18:2-6, Proverbs 3:25, Psalms 31:24, Psalms 27:14,

Hopefully these are helpful

Genesis 1, John 17, John 3:12-21, 1John 4:15 + 1John 4,

Hopefully these are helpful

John 17, Jesus prayed that for us, 1John 4:15,

Psalms 1:1-3, Proverbs 3:5,6, Luke 6,

Hope this is helpful

Part 2

Now lets go back to verse 1 John 4:17, "Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of JUDGEMENT: because as he is, so are we in this world."

Combine the above verse with 1 John 3:21-22, "21-Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

22-And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight."

So lets go back to the verse "there is no fear in Love" and interprete it properly.

/When I have love for God and my brethern and that is shown by both obeying God's commandments and help my brethern when they are in a need, then I can assure myself that i have eternal life and there is no need to fear God in the final Judgment./

The above verse should always be served inside all the rest of the verses that are related to it. Because if it served on its own it may lead to wrong conclusions.

GBU

Part 1

Interpretation of the verse "there is no fear in love"

1 John 4:16-18

"16-And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. 17-Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. 18-There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love"

What does it mean that "one dwells in love, in God?" It means that they love both God and people, especially their brethern.

1. How is it shown that we love God? Answer, John 14:21, "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.". So our love for God is shown when we obey His commandments

2. How is it shown that we love our brethern? Answer, 1 John 3:16-18, "16-Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. 17-But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? 18-My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth."

3. What is preceding, love for God or love for our brethern? 1 John 4:20-21, "20-If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? 21-And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also"

4. What are the consequences if I hate my brethern? 1 John 3:14-15, "14-We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. he that loveth NOT his brother abideth in DEATH. 15-Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him"

A question : do you have faith , in God and in Jesus ? I'm guessing yes , so , why haven't you moved a mountain ? For many years I beat myself up over this , Matthew 17:20 , Matthew 21:21 , Mark 11:23 , John 4:21 . Obviously , I don't have even a tiny mustard grain of faith ! It's only quite recently that I realised that Jesus is using a metaphor . The mountain represents those trials and tribulations that I have in my daily life , my worries my fears my insecurities that come from paying too much attention to the things of this life . Then of course I had to rethink a few other things , once I had realised and accepted that , Jesus sometimes used metaphors , this has opened up my mind to all kinds of possibilities . Further study is required ! Guess what ? Further study is always required ! We are used to metaphors in the Bible especially in the book of Revelation but I hadn't really thought about Jesus using them , parables yes , metaphors ? Took me longer to recognise them . The Bible never stops teaching us new things , this is how it works , it opens up slowly , the more effort you put in and the more your heart and mind are open to it , the more it reveals . It doesn't matter how long we have been reading it , it doesn't matter how many times we've read it , it doesn't matter how great we think our knowledge and understanding is , there's still got good stuff in there to teach us . This is why we need to be careful about how we receive others , they may now something that we don't know yet , we may now something that they don't know yet , we must not discourage open discussion , we must not close our eyes and ears to each other . May God bless us all with open eyes , ears , minds and hearts , to receive His Word from each other with humility and patience and love .

Hi Anonymous,

So far none of the responses regarding how these falling angels reproduced makes any sense.Perhaps familiar Biblical Scripture will bring us to more sound reasoning.

John 3:6 "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." This logically means that flesh cannot produce spirit and Spirit cannot produce flesh, i.e. God does not give birth, create, or produce flesh. John 3:8 provides a glimpse of what spirit is, which obviously is not characteristic of the flesh. John 6:63 states, "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh counts for nothing: the words that I speak unto you are spirit, and are life." So, the flesh does not matter, thus the spirit is ALL that does have meaning, and nothing else. John 4:24 says "God a Spirit: and they that worship him (Him) must worship in spirit and in truth. Nothing here indicating God is flesh. Contrarily, it is an emphatic statement, leaving no doubt. We must NOT worship in flesh and in what is NOT TRUE, i.e. untruth, lies, unreality, illusions, anything of the flesh or mind that thinks apart from Him.

Once again, I'm following a pattern from many of my previous postings, which some may begin to recognize: in reality or the Mind of God, which is Knowledge, truth cannot have an opposite. In truth and eternity and the Kingdom of God, they cannot coexist. Knowledge is stable and has no degrees or fluctuations. Only in time and in an unstable mind that perceives in a myriad of degrees, not on the same level with the Thoughts of God, maintain a faith in opposites. Is this not obvious in what we perceive as going on today in this world? Or at any time in the world's history? Or even on this website?

In lieu of this, How can Jesus literally be 100% God and !00% man (flesh)? Opposites produce strain on the mind, and God is not strain, but peace. Look at Matthew 9:16-17. Observe what opposites did to the garment and bottles.

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There IS fear in love; but perfect love does NOT cast out fear; because LOVE hath torment. HE that loveth IS made perfect in fear. I must choose one or the other as to which is true and eternal; from the Voice for God.

The truth is true and nothing else is true. This statement has two parts: without the first, the second has no meaning, but without the second, is the first no longer true. Truth cannot have an opposite. This can not be too often said and thought about. For if what is not true is true as well as what is true, then part of truth is false. And truth has lost its meaning. Nothing but the truth is true, and what is false is false. Truth must be true throughout, if it be true. It cannot contradict itself, nor be in parts uncertain and in others sure. What God creates has no alternative. The truth arises from what He KNOWS; not what we perceive.

Perception has a focus.It is this that gives consistency to what we see. Change but this focus, and what we behold will change accordingly. When seeing a wholly sinless world is ALL we want to see, when this is ALL we seek for in the name of true perception, are the eyes of Christ inevitably ours. What the body's eyes see/perceive is only conflict.

Much of our strange behavior is directly attributable to our definition of guilt; we've accepted the belief the guiltless are guilty. Love and guilt cannot coexist, and to accept one is to deny the other. Guilt hides Christ from our sight, for it is the denial of the blamelessness of God' children. Love creates Itself and nothing but Itself. To the "devil" purity is seen as arrogance and the acceptance of the self as sinful is perceived as holiness. TEACH ONLY LOVE.

Romans 2:11 Romans 13:10 Eph. 1:4 Eph. 5:14 Eph. 3:17-19 Eph. 4:29 Philippians 4:8 Titus 1:15 2 James 3:17-18 1 John 1:5 1 1 John 4:7-8

Peace

GOD IS

Thoughts on knowledge and perception:

pg. 1

True perception is the basis for knowledge, but knowing is the affirmation of truth and beyond all perceptions. We can be right- minded or wrong-minded, and even this is subject to degrees, clearly demonstrating that knowledge is not involved. The term "right-mindedness" is properly used as the correction for "wrong-mindedness," and applies to the state of mind that induces accurate perception. Only perception involves partial awareness. Knowledge transcends the laws governing perception, because partial knowledge is impossible. It is all one and has no separate parts. In time, we perceive. Only God is knowledge, and eternal.

From knowledge and perception respectively, two distinctive thought systems arise which are opposites in every respect. In the realm of knowledge no thoughts exist apart from God, because God and His creation share one Will. The world of perception, however, is made by the belief in opposites and separate wills, in perpetual conflict with each other and with God. What perception sees and hears appears to be real because it permits into awareness only what conforms to the wishes of the perceiver. This leads to world of illusions, a world which needs constant defense precisely BECAUSE it is not real. The Holy Spirit must perceive time, and reinterpret it into the timeless. He must work through opposites, because He must work with and for a mind that is in opposition.

The opposite of Love is fear, yet what is all encompassing cannot have an opposite. Yet we can perceive incorrectly that it does, thus believing fear is of God and not its opposite. Could we say that love is the source of the opposite of God? Hmm. 1 John 4:18 . There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear; because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. The opposite of this verse which would obviously derive from an opposing source, would be.....

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Hi Kalebu,

I will give my understanding, and others may differ. The tabernacle is the place to host the presence of God on earth. In Exodus 25 God gives the pattern to Moses to build the tabernacle (the tent of meeting), a sacred place to communicate with God. Later Solomon built the first temple which is also a tabernacle in the old sacrificial system.

The people would bring an animal and lay their hand on its head and pass their sin onto the sacrifice. The high priest had to go in once a year with the blood of a bull for an offering for himself and the people, but it did not take away the sins, (the conscience). This was a foreshadowing of the Messiah, Jesus the high priest to come, Heb. 9 and Heb. 10.

When Jesus the Messiah came and was baptized by John the Holy Spirit filled Jesus without measure, John 3:34. The sacred space, the communication and fellowship with God, the tabernacle the true light coming into the world, John 1:14, God was manifest in the flesh 1 Tim.3:16, who communicated directly with men.

As Jesus told the woman at the well John 4:21-24 if we accept Jesus as the Messiah who has come in the flesh, He died for our sins and was raised from the dead, and only through Him do we have access to God and only in Him the name of Jesus is salvation and when we are baptized and sealed with the Holy Spirit we become a tabernacle a place to host the presence of God through the Holy Spirit by our high priest and mediator Jesus.

This is my understanding please study for your own.

God bless,

RLW

Hello Kobe Southern,

Interestingly, after studying scripture I've noticed, GOD gave mankind dominion, on Earth. Genesis 1:26,27,28, GOD didn't take that dominion away, people have misused their powers. They/we will all give account: Revelation 1:5-8, Romans 14:12, Daniel 4:3,34, Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 18,

Jesus was here to show us how to bring His Kingdom the Kingdom of GOD on Earth, with Love, John 3:16-21, John 13:34, Romans 12:10, 1John 4:7,12, 1Peter 3:8, John 15:17, James 2:13-17, Luke 13:34,

one day all dominion will go to Christ: 1Corinthians 15:20-28, Romans 16:20,

Galatians 4:1-8, Colossians 3:21,

Matthew 20:25-28, Ephesians 1, (whole chapters) 1Peter 4, Jude 1,

Jesus gave all that believe in him, authority under heaven: from GOD ALMIGHTY: Matthew 28:18-20, Matthew 6, Luke 11, Mark 3:15, Acts 4:30,31, Luke 9:2,

We all have power in the natural if even just to comfort someone else, & as we grow in faith, supernatural power in prayer, through GOD & Christ Jesus our Savior.

Hopefully these are helpful

Holy Spirit study: Good vs Evil

In scripture; we are given the guideline that "every spirit which says that Christ came in the flesh is from God; and the opposite holds true of the ones that deny it (such as was found in Gnosticism for instance). Thus states 1 John 4:2. We have the instance; however of Acts 16:17 where the KJV makes it appear that the girl states when possessed that Paul was showing THE way of salvation; apparently at least one other version makes it seem it should say A way of salvation. That may be a debate for another forum. What I am pointing out here is that it is unlkely a demon will say outright Jesus didn't come in the flesh at least right away or it would be a giveaway at least to some that it wasn't from God. The part of coming in the flesh as God in the flesh is important too; for the substitutionary atonement for men; as well as making a public spectacle of the powers of darkness ( Colossians 2:15) and destroying him who had power over death ( Heb. 2:14). Sin could no longer hold men and now; to be absent from the Body is present with the Lord ( 2 Cor. 5:8).

Let us look at temptation for a minute. Temptations can be both things which we know to be wrong even in a fallen state with whatever conscience we have but it also can be things which by themselves are neutral and/or good under the right circumstances. What occurs is that the mind finds comfort in the seen; material things and satisfying temporary wants and ultimately the sin is not trusting in God to meet needs in His timing. Men; of course can go from being hedonistic to self depricating behaviors not reliant on the Spirit of God such as seen at the end of Colossians 2. Notice that it mentions worshipping angels here; but we must remember any angel preaching a gospel contrary to the truth is "anathema" ( Gal. 1:8).

Usually people are agents of evil; but a possessed person can speak (of course convincing people they are deceased relatives or "guiding spirits."

Ian,

I also tried 6 times yesterday to post a response with no luck. Not to take away from what Chris has shared because I agree, but here is what I tried sending:

The word charity in the King James text is the word Agape in Greek. And there are different words in Greek for different kinds of love.



Over the years, the church has relegated Agape to be something special. But not that special, because we think we can produce it!



But the word charity is Agape.



Agape is the fruit of God's Spirit according to Galatians 5:22, "But the fruit of the Spirit is love." And that word love is Agape. God's Spirit produces Agape.



1 John 4:8 tells us that God is Agape. It's His nature. In fact, outside of the New Testament, the word was hardly ever used.

But God is Agape.



Agape love includes sacrifice. Agape is the concern for someone's spiritual welfare. God exhibited that toward us in that "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son."



He looked at us and said your spiritual condition needs help. If I don't send a Savior, you're going to die in your sins!

So the word charity throughout all of Chapter 13 is the word Agape. It is Agape love, or Godly love. It doesn't mean charity like we know it today.

1John 4:18,

Colossians 3:21, Colossians 3:8,

Psalms 37, Ecclesiastes 7:9, Psalms 37:8, Proverbs 15:18,

Ephesians 4:26,

Psalms 103:8,9, Psalms 145:8,

If you look up fear in search option on site it pulls up 13 pages,

Hopefully helpful

Hi, One eighty.

Jesus during his earthly life had a true physical human body. After His resurrection, He was seen with a physical body by His disciples and the women who went to the tomb. He ascended to heaven with a physical body and the angels said He would return in this same physical body. The church through the centuries has affirmed that He is in heaven in a physical body also and refuted all the ideas that came forward that denied these things, including the Gnostics, Donatists and others who denied that He came and lived in a physical body.

1 John 4:1-3

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confessed that Jesus Christcame in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this itsthe spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

Hi Verleen,

No one has ever seen God BECAUSE He is Spirit. John 4:24. You may also want to check out John 3:6. In John 3:8, Spirit is compared with the wind, which cannot be seen; one can only feel and experience the effects of the wind, as with Spirit (God).

It is my opinion, yet not all will agree, nothing except God can exist, and nothing beyond Him can truly happen. What God creates has no alternative, the truth arises from what He knows. Not from me! Therefore what God did not create can only falsely be in my own mind and NOT in His. God is is the only Cause and His effect is His Perfect Son.

Peace

GOD IS

Hi Verleen innis,

I will give my understanding,

Your first question; is there anywhere in the heavens or the earth that God cannot be, Psalm 139:7-10 Proverbs 15:3 Jeremiah 23:23-24 Hebrews 4:13 Isaiah 6:3. But is the universe, the earth, and everything on the earth a manifestation of God? NO that is Pantheism and is forbidden in the Bible as idol worship, if everything is God it can be worshiped.

His dwelling place is in heaven that is above heaven (universe) and earth, beyond and outside of the physical universe, 1 Kings 8:30 1 Kings 8:43 2 Chr. 20:6 Psalm 11:4 Daniel 2:28 Matt. 5:16 Matt. 6:9. God gave His only begotten Son to die for us, John 3:16 God by the Holy Spirit can dwell in us if we accept Jesus as our savior we are cleansed by His blood, Romans 8:9-11 1 Cor. 3:16

God can see everything and take action anywhere, Prov. 15:3 Heb. 4:13 but God is everywhere at once? He is in that he is aware of everything in the physical universe both past, present, and future, and he can turn his attention to anyone or anything at any time.

Has anyone seen God? Moses came the closest, God showed him His backside, Exodus 33:12-23. No man in the flesh can see God's face and live, John 1:18 John 4:12 1 Tim. 6:16. We will see His face after the resurrection in our immortal and incorruptible body, Rev 22:4.

How can one Know that God exists? The Bible: He has revealed things to us, and the evidence is convincing if anyone is willing to consider the evidence. History also confirms many things that were prophesied in the Bible long before they happened. The word of God is the truth, and the Holy Spirit will reveal it to those with an open mind and open heart who honestly want the truth.

This is my understanding in love may it help, search and pray for yours.

God bless,

RLW

Hi Verleen,

I don't understand your first question about where God isn't. If He's omnipresent then I suppose your answer would be nowhere. I also think of God being more some places than other places, however, like more heaven and less in hell. We as humans don't even fully comprehend how we ourselves exist or how or why our bodies operate in certain ways, so it shouldn't be a surprise that we don't fully understand God.

For your second question, did you first do a search and were you unable to find verses for this? Because I typed it in an internet search and immediately showed results in John and 1 John. Surely you aren't asking others to do things for you that you haven't tried yourself; what phrases did you try?

For your third I don't know that word nex.

Fourth, how do you know love exists if you've never seen it? God is love. 1 John 4:8. This is a metaphor and doesn't mean He is only love. Have you ever seen a painting that painted itself instead of a painter? Have you ever seen a building that built itself without a builder? Have you ever seen a design that designed itself without a designer? We exist. That is a provable fact. You exist. The earth, the animals, our bodies, DNA, laws of physics, hydrology, and all the amazing features and complexities of the world we live in show that we are designed. Because science has ever once witnessed intelligent designs that design themselves, it logically indicates we were designed by a designer. Romans 1:20 - it is evident by the creation that there is a creator.

God bless.

"The GOD", in Old Testament, Exodus 3:6, is "elohiym" same word for Genesis 1, Genesis 9,

In Genesis 7, 'and the LORD' is "Yhvh" & Genesis 6,

You can click each scripture to read the translation words & click that into deeper study of words, for each name of GOD.

1John 4, 1John 4:16 ... 'GOD is love' ... Is translated from the Greek, "theos esti agape"

Yes, I believe in both situations it was a loving GOD that protected & stopped the wickedness, cruelty, etc.notice, Genesis 6:5, Genesis 18, Genesis 18:20,21,25,32, Genesis 19:4,9,

Revelation 18:5, Exodus 22:22-27, Proverbs 21:13, Job 24:38,

Matthew 25:31-46,

Hopefully these are helpful

Thanks for that amazing reminder

Psalms 139:1-18, 1John 4:15-19, Philemon 1:7, Hebrews 6:10,

Hopefully these are encouraging

Hi Aaron.

I agree with Helene in giving you

1 John 4:4 "YE ARE OF GOD, little children, and have overcome them: because "GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN YOU", than he that is in the world.

"YE ARE OF GOD" There is your protection. You are born of God's Spirit.

You have more protection than what any man or Angels can provide!!

I would also like to add these verses.

Romans 8:31-39. What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us ALL THINGS? ( Protection from the evil one included )

Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, NOR ANGELS, NOR PRINCIPALITIES, NOR POWERS, NOR THINGS PRESENT, NOR THINGS TO COME,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Not even ourselves can separate us from the love of God.

I hope this helps.

God bless.