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Behold the Fifth Gospel that came 700 years before Christ Jesus arrival on earth as the King/ Servant/ Man & God. This will be The Nation of Israel's confession in the very end of times, as it is written in past tense. When The Nation of Israel shall confess that Jesus is the Christ and Blessed and that He came in the name of Lord. Jesus even told The Nation of Israel this, in Matthew 23:39. So in the end after the two witnesses of Moses and Elijah are gone, when The Nation of Israel is surrounded and about to be wiped out by adversaries, their eyes will be opened and they will confess Isaiah 53 and Herald Christ's Return. God will save His People. A remnant yes, but He will do it. Believe God, He Brings us The Truth.

Good Job

John Chapter three is just an overview; First Corinthians chapter fifteen verse three and four is the Gospel to the Gentiles during the age of grace, and if you believe it you are born again into God's family.

It takes the blood of jesus to wash away your sins that when you are born again . St. John ch 3. This is the only way to heaven amen.

DearMarilyn

You stated men are born righteousness, My response was no one is born righteous. Being right right with God doesn't make you sinless.

Our righteousness don't purify the heart

Isaiah 64:6. But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Christ righteousness has to be imputed on to us. In that case all that truly accepted Christ should be on that list

Let's first look at the verse in Psalms YOU gave to validate your point.



""It don't quote the way you presented it"" However what you added argues my point for me..

You quoting """When an unjust person returns to God they will be justified, made just again""" Here is a few more verses to add to your quote.

2 Corinthians 5:21. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Romans 3:22 . Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Isaiah 53:11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Job even disagrees with you:

Job 15:14-16. What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?

Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.

How much more abominable and filthy is man, which drinketh iniquity like water?

If you believe that's a list of sinless men I'm sure David would disagree with you also.

If we can be right with God our deliverance would have came from the law!!

Does the Bible say that we as Christians can feel others physical pain

Fanny Crosby hymn on Isaiah 53:4-6

1. Thro' the sacrifice of Jesus the Lamb,

Thro' the blood full atonement is made,

He has carried all our burdens of sorrow,

And on Him our transgressions were laid.

Refrain

There is peace thro' the blood,

Thro' the precious blood He offers so free;

There is peace thro' the blood,

O that precious blood is flowing for me.

Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the "HOUR" OF temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them which dwell upon the earth. You noticed the Lord said he will keep them from the "HOUR", Meaning time of temptation? Now don't that parallel with 1st Thessalonians 5:9?. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ. Now i have heard it said that all saints would have to go through the tribulation for purification, Doesn't that render Christ blood shed on the cross inadequate? I thought we were washed, I thought we were hid in Christ, I thought we were sanctified in Christ, why is there need for such purification? what about the saints who has already died in Christ? THE prophets, the Apostles, ect.. I thought Christ was smitten once for our sins, if we were baptised into Christ at conversion,. If we are the body of Christ and going to appointed to wrath wouldn't that be like smitten him again? In Isaiah 53:11 He says: He shall see of the travail of his soul, and be satisfied. Were not appointed to wrath.

Genesis 9:11 tells us that God promises to not use a flood to destroy the Earth & its inhabitants ever again as He did in Noah's days. Rather, it will be by fire ( 1 Peter 3:5-7). What we're seeing as destruction & loss of lives by fires, floods & earthquakes, are normal phenomena that have been occurring throughout history. However, it appears that their appearance now seem to come with greater frequency & force, to which one can conclude will eventually usher in the full extent of God's Anger (the Great Tribulation) that will be poured out upon the God-forsaking, Christ-rejecting World.

A friend reminded me that we all need to be reminded of this daily

Here is laid a firm foundation for the trembling sinner to rest his soul upon. We are the purchase of his blood, and the monuments of his grace; for this he continually pleads and prevails, destroying the works of the devil.

There can be no more important chapter in all the Bible than this one. For in this chapter is found that our soul can be saved by the lord Jesus 700 years before his birth. And while here on earth with the living that has very little meaning to most. Its when time is no more and eternity begins that having a saved soul is all that ever mattered in the beginning of life to the end. Not health- we all die...Not wealth...we lose it all the day we die. In the end. We can have a saved soul and go to heaven IF WE SO CHOSE thanks be to Jesus.

Did not intend to instill sadness. Sad is bad. Smiles are better.

Thank you for your words. God is good.

That was so sad to read, yet a wonderful testimony of God's Spirit's Work in you at a time of such great grief & loss. You have cast yourself upon the Lord's Mercies & He has ministered His Word of comfort to you in return in wonderful ways.

Having lost both my parents at an earlier age, I too can relate how wonderfully the Lord undertook for me, "to give unto (me) beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that (I) might be called (a tree) of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified". Isaiah 61:3. And that's what it is: that He might be glorified in us in every way.

Whether in joy or grief, health or sickness, in the light or darkness, He is there - He is YHWH-Shammah (The Lord Who is Present - Ezekiel 48:35), the Lord Who never leaves or forsakes His children. Your rich memories, in your heart & in visible things around the house, will always be precious - maybe bringing in a tear or some times of great sadness, but still keeping his memory special & precious forever - till we meet again, indeed! Walk on in the joy & strength of the Lord, dear sister.

My husband of almost 50 years died recently and I had great peace, and was not sorrowful. At first I had mixed feelings about this and almost felt some guilt but and then the Spirit in me reminded me that Jesus not only bore my sins on His cross, He also bore my sorrows and grief. What wonderful, loving words. Our Lord also left me retain wonderful memories of my dear partner, and I do miss him, but know we shall meet again as we gather at the River.

Abigail, I know this illness is taking a toll on your emotions. Not your faith in God. It is time to feed your faith.

If he will allow you, lay hands on your son by holding his hand; and pray these scriptures (below) aloud. We have 3 gates on our bodies: the Eye Gate (reading the words)

the Ear Gate that hears the scriptures spoken; and the Mouth Gate, speaking the Words of Life.

All of these things feed our spirits and our faith grows on what God says, rather than the doctors. Copy the scripture names down.

Isaiah 41:10 Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.

Jeremiah 17:14 Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou art my praise.

Jeremiah 33:6 Behold, I will bring him health and cure, and I will cure them, and will reveal unto them the abundance of peace and truth.

1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

James 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

James 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

3 John 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospers.

James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed.

Speak faith when doubt raises its head.

Pray: " Come Holy Spirit. Help Me."

Listen to praise music.

To clarify, are you suggesting that there is no God in Heaven except Jesus, Who is God? Or, maybe that Jesus is Our God, so the God in Heaven is no longer our God? It would be difficult to prove that only Jesus (as God) is presently in Heaven.

To do so, then a lot of other Scriptures would have to be negated, when Jesus says: John 16:16.17 "I go to the Father"; John 20:17 "I ascend to my Father...and to My God"; Hebrews 8:1, 10:12, Mark 16:19, Romans 8:34, 1 Peter 3:22 "at the right Hand of God" & many more.

I earnestly hope that I have misunderstood your comments as the abundance of Scripture is given for us to know that there is still a God in Heaven & His Word made flesh has now ascended victorious & glorious, seated at His Father's right Hand, receiving the worship as One inclusive in the eternal Godhead.

You said: "The mystery of the Trinity, then, is not in God dividing himself into 2 or 3 separate parts. The mystery is in the way Jesus speaks to us." With the Scriptures before us, and they don't lie, the "mystery of the Trinity" in part, is that the Eternal God has in His Love, chosen to give of Himself as the only Sacrifice that would satisfy His demands of justice & redemption. An unblemished animal was a temporal covering for sin which could never remove the guilt & consequences of sin. God had to provide His Own Lamb, which He did ( Isaiah 53:7, John 1:29), which no animal or man could fulfil. God the Father did not leave Heaven to accomplish this task but He sent forth His Word clothed in flesh to do so ( John 1:1-14) & called this Word, His beloved Son. God also sent forth His Spirit to empower His Son for service & power to all who repent & call upon Him that they too may be one as They are One ( John 17:21-26).

God cannot be divided into three parts, else we might conclude, three gods. He has revealed Himself in His Fullness, in tri-unity, without which He could not be the God He reveals to us & what He accomplishes for us. Blessings.

Comments by Alex about tithes and offerings the Law. Now our tithes are our bodies,present your bodies a living sacrfice etc. Our bodies are his temple as he said abide in me and i in you. Jesus has no respect for buildings made with mans hands. The new covenant is Christ in you the hope of Glory, He died for humanity not for Church buildings. He wants to be born in us sinners hearts not in your temple made with hands. Thats y he always refered to himself as the SON OF MAN, He wants to be born in our hearts not in some church building. Read Philipians 3 v 8 KJV Paul says i HAVE SUFFERED THE LOSS OF ALL THINGS AND COUNT THEM BUT DUNG THAT MIGHT WIN CHRIST and be found in him etc This is PAULS TAKE ON TITHES AND OFFERINGS I HAVE SUFFERED THE LOSS OF ALL THINGS AND COUNT THEM BUT DUNG THAT I MIGHT WIN CHRIST ETC.Paul had his eyes on JESUS and nothin else not on materialistic things. Like JESUS said set your effections on heavenly things. Labor NOT for the bread that perishes but for that bread that endures unto everlasting life. The Kingdom of God is not in meat or drink but in joy and peace in the H.G.What happened to early Christinanity, Jesus gave them up till she that goes into travail has given birth,and Catholicism came in which was of the devil. Joel said how do the priests and the ministers do mourn for the NEW WINE HAS BEEN CUT OFF FROM THEIR MOUTHS. THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO EARLY CHRISTIANITY IT WAS CUT OFF.It was a great Army but it was cut off till the woman gives birth which is the 2 nd coming Ezech. died bones testify of early Christianity that was cut off. Jesus said 4 times i will raise them up AGAIN the last day. My lil children of whom i travail in birth AGAIN. YA remember Batheheba had to travail a 2 nd time for the child of Promise. Jesus had to anoint the blindman a 2 nd time b/f he cd see clearly. It was the 2 nd wine that was the best wine that 3 rd day wine, we are in the 3 r day now. Catholicism/religions tried to come in and deceive humanity.

Comments by Alex about his death and resurrection which is gonna fulfill the LAW. Sin in the transgression of the law. But if them that are born of God cannot sin b/c his seed the living word is with in them ( Christ in us ) then the LAW IS FULFILLED simply b/c them that are born of GOD cannot sin, Its gonna make it impossible to sin when his kingdom is with in US Christ in US ETC. And thats how he will fulfill the LAW. We will all love God with all our hearts and our neighbors as ourselves, Love is the fulfillment of the LAW. But there is no divine love without Christ in us. The seed that is gona remain in us is the H.G. the seed of God our husband etc. Thats what true conversion is all about, we are gona birth a baby Christ THE SON OF MAN, THE H.G. THAT IS GONNA RULE ALL NATIONS, Simply b/c he is gona be born in the hearts of every man,remember Jeremiah saw ALL men in travail and birth pains,He was trying to tell us something everytime he refered to himself as the SON OF MAN,Mankind is gonna birth a baby Christ making it impossible to sin,Thus fulfilling the law, thus we will keep the commandments b/c we cannot sin,its gonna be impossible to sin simply b/c the manchild our new innerman is God,The new covenant is a birthing covenant he is gona put his seeds WORDS in our hearts and minds, THUS A NEW INNERMAN WHICH IS OUR NEW HEART AND NEW SPIRIT, That new heaven and new earth is simply our new innerman which is Christ in US, his seed and his name is that new earth and new heaven as Isaiah said.If we birth the Child which is the H.G a living being via his seed the Word we will keep the commandments remember the woman in rev 12 who births the Child keeps the commandments simply b/c the CHILD IS THE kingdom our king the SON OF MAN ETC OUR FRUIT UNTO GOD. All the law will be fulfilled simply b/c Christ is gona live with in US. ya think that we are gona go around breaking the law while Christ is living with us no. them that are born of GOD CANNOT SIN. gbu

Comments by Alex about Isaiah 53 which is tied into the great Promise of multiplication of his seed etc. That Great Promise where the FATHER swore by his very self. This is how JESUS the Sheppard explained it, Smite the Sheppard and the sheep will be scattered then i will turn my Hand to the littles ones, Little ones imply Children via his seed the Children of Promise ( multiplication ) which is the H.G.that is gonna lead us into all truth(HEALING US ) Spritually and physically. She brought a man Child that is gonna lead us into all truth which is the H.G. the Child of Promise. Even in modern times seeds are beaten that they might produce a bigger crop. The result of his beaten was that the Promise might be fulfilled, That he might be multiplied as the stars of heaven by his seed the living word the very seed of God to whom the word came it made them Gods ( the babes and the sucklings ) which are spirits as GOD is spirit th H.G. THAT CHILD OF PROMISE,Whosoever receives one such child in my name receives ME But had he not died there wd have been only 1 Christ but b/c of his death he will be multiplied as the stars of heaven that was the great Promise thus every man will be healed by his stripes, By his stripes we are healed Bornagain etc That great CROP of his are Gods to whom the WORDS came ( HIS SEED ) it made them Gods. WHEN SEEDS ARE BEATEN THEY MULTIPLY. 39 STRIPES IMPLY A FULL TERM PREGNANCY THE WORLD WILL BIRTH CHRIST B/C OF HIS DEATH. The blood and the water that came out of his side imply a Birth, the little ones Zech speaks of imply our 1st born our only son the Children of Promise via his stripes / death etc but 1st we will have to go thru a time of Mouring for our 1st born our only son the multiplcation of Christ in humanity b/c of his stripes/death.The prophets saw the whole world in travail and birth pains for the Children of PROMISE THE H.G. PROMISE CHILDREN,Thats y he was calling for Elijah to come and turn the hearts of the father to the Children.

David, this portion of Isaiah (52:13 to 53:12) refers to the coming suffering Servant of God. Traditional Jews & the early Christians acknowledged that this passage referred to a future Messiah, however in the 12th Century AD, a view emerged that this referred to Israel & is generally considered so today by them. However, the passage specifically speaks of a man & Jesus Christ is that Man Who has fulfilled the prophecies given about Him of His suffering & crucifixion.

With that said, verses 2-5 of chapter 53 speak of His crucifixion: having been despised & hated by the Jewish hierarchy for His preaching, His miracles & His denouncing of their wicked hearts & practises (v 3), He was ultimately put to a Roman Cross, by the urging from the Jews, where He was purposed by the Father to be, for the bearing of our sins, the Just for the unjust (v 4).

And so verse 5, further describes the agony of the Cross as well as the cost of our pardon: it was for our sins that He died, it was for a restoration of peace between God & sinner that He came, and it was by His suffering & death that a spiritual healing has taken place: a glorious pardon & a restoration to God's Favour & acceptance. We contribute nothing at all to this salvation: it was all done by the Lord Jesus & God's Mercy to us & only our repentance & faith (which is God's gift to us anyway), are required to avail of salvation's gift.

Isaiah hardly knew the full implications of this prophecy that God had given him. Though some who walked closely with the Lord & suffered for Him in those days, knew that "God (will provide) some better thing for us, that they, without us should not be made perfect." ( Heb 11:40). They knew that the sacrificial system would end & that God would one day provide His Lamb for not only their sins but for the world; yet the world disregards & spurns His glorious offer.

Commentary on Isiah 53 verse 5 - But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Morning Chris i concur with you and must say that am blessed this morning,

yes its very correct that its only our God who provides healing unto our lives

and as believers of Christ Jesus we ought to know that the scriptures is clearly

recorded as i quote from the book of ISAIAH 53:5:' But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

N/b when we get sick we should Pray to God and remind Him alone of His Word & when we do so in Faith indeed we are heald.Shalom.

Psalm 34:19

Many are the afflictions of the righteous, But the LORD delivers him out of them all.

Isaiah 53:4-5

Surely He has borne our griefs And carried our sorrows; Yet we esteemed Him stricken, Smitten by God, and afflicted. But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed.

Jeremiah 33:6

Behold, I will bring it health and healing; I will heal them and reveal to them the abundance of peace and truth.

Isaiah 58:8

Then your light shall break forth like the morning, Your healing shall spring forth speedily

This afternoon I was so tired after child sitting: I found a site on YouTube that reads just healing scriptures. I listened for an hour and all that tiredness just left.

I think it's 3 hours long. I saved it so I can go back there.

What year was Isiah murdered

I have yet to see anyone admitting whom the true Israelites of Scripture are, and where they are located. Why is that ? Revelation 2:9, clearly states whom they are not. So, who are these people ?

Isaiah 53:2

"For he (Jesus) shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him."

Jesus is an ordinary looking man.

The other description you used is the one from Revelation 1: of the returning LION of the TRIBE of JUDAH.

When Jesus started his Ministry, there was nothing that the Pharisees or Leaders, saw that would make them believe he was the Messiah. Jesus came to them as the Lamb of God; not a King. He was rejected on the basis of appearance. God looks on the heart.

Acts 1:10-20

This took place in a Upper Room. A prophesy Peter found about Judas Iscariot is discussed by the disciples. They are about to appoint a new 12th disciple.

I believe the Holy Spirit showed Peter of the prophesies about Judas Iscariot's betrayal. Jesus knew of the prophesy; He's God. It would explain lack of closeness with Judas.

The Commentary Page on this website says the prophesy is about Judas Iscariot.

This is one of those studies that you have to read at a snails pace, all of the center column references to get a clearer picture of prophesy with present circumstances.

I'm going to list the passages and let the scholars in here piece it together with Holy Spirit, our Helper: helping us rightly divide the Word of Truth.

Acts 1: 10:20

John 18:3

Matthew 26:55-56

Psalms 41:9, 55:23 (The Prophesy)

Isaiah 53:7 (Ch 53 all about Jesus)

Daniel 9:26

Lamentations 4:20

Leviticus 25:15

Deuteronomy 16:9

*when you Google on Judas; just use his last name & it'll get you to the right Judas.

You need to get another Bible with center of the page reference columns. Each alphabet or number refers to another scripture that adds more illumination to the first. Some are current to that time or they are prophetic (future). You have to get what you need to study these things deeper. Sometimes you have to buy reference books. I highly recommend a large print encyclopedia with a full concordance. Try AbeBooks to get previously owned. Google them.

Here is a few on Leviticus

16:5 see Lev 4:14, Numbers 29:11, 2 Chron. 29:21, Ezra 6:17, Ezekiel 45:22

16:8. See chapter 9:7, Hebrews 7:27-28

16:9 see Proverbs 16:33

16:10 see Isaiah 53:4-10, Romans 3:25,

2 Corinthians 5:21, 1 John 2:2

At the end of all that you will see that Jesus was the Scapegoat for us. He has already made atonement for us.

You're going to have to look this all up and then ask THE HOLY SPIRIT to teach you what it means today. He's your Teacher.

It means prayer on your part, and turning off all racket to sit quietly before the Lord for answers. You will be amazed at what you learn. Psalm 63:6 and Proverbs 8:34

ACTS 1:10-20

This took place in a Upper Room. A prophesy about Judas Iscariot is discussed. They are about to appoint a new 12th disciple.

I believe the Holy Spirit showed Peter of the prophesies about Judas Iscariot's betrayal.

This is one of those studies that you have to read at a snails pace, all of the center column references to get a clearer picture of prophesy with present circumstances.

I'm going to list the passages and let the scholars in here piece it together with Holy Spirit, our Helper: helping us rightly divide the Truth.

Acts 1: 10:20

John 18:3

Matthew 26:55-56

Psalm 41:9, 55:23

Isaiah 53:7 (Ch 53 all about Jesus)

Daniel 9:26

Lamentations 4:20

Leviticus 25:15

Deuteronomy 16:9

Isaiah 53:5

"But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.". ...." Tattoos yea some more than others"