Discuss Isaiah 53

  • Richard H Priday - 5 months ago
    Facts vs Revelation

    For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. ( Isaiah 53:2).

    Whatever appeal an image or icon of Christ gives to the unregenerate; it isn't going to reveal God's true character. Jesus in fact at the end of His earthly existence was marred beyond recognition ( Isaiah 52:14). Whatever He DID look like He only spoke the words God gave Him; at least in terms of teaching. Clearly He had permission to turn the water into wine before the time His mission was fully underway; and we can assume that many other things that John mentioned not written down were left out of the Canon for reasons on this side of eternity we won't fully grasp. Jesus told Phillip that to see Him was to see the Father ( John 14:9). It is clear if the 12 Disciples didn't fully grasp the truth before Pentecost then it is something only revealed supernaturally.

    Thus; we can extrapolate that any sensational so called miracle needs to be seen in light of scriptural doctrinal truth. Technology of course can simulate many things but cannot truly create; thus the miracle where a seemingly insignificant gnat was created by God showed the intervention of God where demonic entities couldn't replicate during the time Moses was in the process of delivering His people from Pharaoh.

    To understand one's sin therefore is clearly a miracle as we are all formerly spiritually dead. Perhaps an emotion can be evoked to simulate such freedom but it is beyond human expression and a renewed heart brings forth life that cannot be explained or replicated with any technology. We also can't conjure up such an experience to bring appeal to the masses; if true conversion occurs in a large scale event each individual must be convicted through a supernatural work of God. Repentance is action beyond lip service and impossible in our own strength.
  • Chris - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hello Franklinc.. We do see glimpses of Jesus Christ, in the prophet Jeremiah, both in his person and writings. Even some of the people of Jesus' day wondered whether this Jesus personified one of the OT prophets, such as Jeremiah ( Matthew 16:13,14). Whether they actually saw something about Jesus' Life and Ministry that led them to wonder or maybe they believed that Jesus came in the spirit and power of those men, we can't know.

    Jeremiah prophesied about Jesus (not by Name of course) in Jerermiah 23:5,6; and this prophecy is still future when Jesus returns to Earth and sits on the 'Throne of David'.

    Jeremiah also speaks about a New Covenant ( Jeremiah 31:31-34). Although Jesus brought in a New Covenant in His Blood, which we are the blessed recipients of, Israel by-and-large have rejected it to this day. But this is the final Covenant, for no greater can be made other than through God's Son's Sacrifice. But the day will come when the fulfilment of this Covenant will be realized when all Jewry will acknowledge the Giver of this Covenant & be transformed in the inner man.

    Jeremiah 11:19-21; Jeremiah 20:7-18. The prophet suffered very much physically. Even as Isaiah spoke of Jesus being "brought as a lamb to the slaughter" ( Isaiah 53:7), Jeremiah voices the same grief unto himself ( Jeremiah 11:19).

    Jesus seems to quote Jeremiah in His castigation of the temple merchants ( Matthew 21:12,13; cf Jeremiah 7:9-11).

    So, a few examples that I could think of that hopefully addresses your question. Blessings.
  • Mrs BR - 7 months ago
    Heavenly Father, Creator of Life,

    I come before You with reverence and holy boldness in the mighty Name of Jesus Christ. You are the God who knew this child before they were formed in the womb, who wrote their story before a single day passed. You are their Defender, their Healer, their God.

    Lord, I lift up my unborn granddaughter to You.

    Cover this child with the Blood of Jesus from the crown of their head to the soles of their feet. Let every cell, organ, and system be formed under Your perfect hand.

    "For You created my inmost being; You knit me together in my mother's womb." - Psalm 139:13

    I plead the Blood of Jesus over their physical body.

    No sickness, no deformity, no affliction, no diagnosis, no generational weakness shall take root. I reject and renounce every inherited physical condition passed down from either side of the bloodline-it ends here with no root in Jesus' Name!

    "By His stripes we are healed." - Isaiah 53:5

    "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law." - Galatians 3:13

    I plead the Blood of Jesus over their emotions.

    I declare that this child, my grandchild, M., will not inherit shame, trauma, fear, anxiety, or torment from any parent, grandparent, or family spirit. I block every soul wound and emotional imbalance that can be passed down through family cycles and make them powerless, null and void, now and forever. Let the Holy Spirit form their soul, body, mind, in peace, joy, and wholeness.

    "God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind." - 2 Timothy 1:7

    I plead the Blood of Jesus over their spirit.

    This child will be marked for God from the womb: set apart, sealed, and anointed. I break every generational curse, every occult tie, every spirit of rebellion, addiction, abuse, rage, manipulation, control, curse, rejection, or perversion.

    It is broken now by the authority of Jesus Christ!

    "I will pour out My Spirit on your offspring, and My blessing on your descendants." - Isaiah 44:3

    *"If the Son sets you fr
  • HARPAL - In Reply - 9 months ago
    CONFESS THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN Isaiah 53:4-5

    New International Version

    4 Surely he took up our pain

    and bore our suffering,

    yet we considered him punished by God,

    stricken by him, and afflicted.

    5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,

    he was crushed for our iniquities;

    the punishment that brought us peace was on him,

    and by his wounds we are healed.
  • Free - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Dear "Lisa Wallace ", don't look at the circumstances, just look at God's Word. Isaiah 53:4-5 Proclaim the Word. Then you will see that He is with you. Trust the Word. Jesus is the Word. Amen

    Love u in Christ Jesus!
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 10 months ago
    I don't want to lose sight here of the fact that for the love of the Father Jesus did all this; and for the joy of seeing the labors that He did (See Isaiah 53:11). I may be too bogged down in His suffering; my hope is that when we feel wiped out and are stressed more we can look to the Spirit to strengthen us. I also want to look at the spiritual battles as evidence we are His children and of course the fact that the war is won already.

    Thanks for the love and encouragement.

    Agape; Rich P
  • Richard H Priday - 10 months ago
    Persecution: Christ on earth ( Isaiah 53:3-9)

    3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

    4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

    5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

    6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

    7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

    8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

    9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

    The rest of this chapter relates to God actually designing this for the redemption of men; even wicked men like you and I. In fact He even said forgive them for they know not what they are doing when He was cricified. ( Luke 23:34).

    It is a sobering thought to consider here; how a member of the Godhead would suffer and die in our place; the righteous for the unrighteous; or even more profound this was even possible. Islam says this is blasphemous as God wouldn't do something like that; they certainly have a point that demonstrates that Christ is an offence to those who do not believe; and a stumbling Block as well. When the world honors physical strength and earthly success to their definition of having authority; as well as their own expectations as to how He should rule; no wonder they all fell away so quickly on a mass scale.
  • Free - In Reply - 10 months ago
    Dear "Loretta sinsabaugh", we know that many strange things can happen in our bodies. A little personal here now: (I myself have pain night and day, but it is always best to stay completely still or when I am sleeping. Latest update: "balls as big as marbles that move in joints. These balls move on their own". It hurts so much. I am 65 years old).

    So I appeal to you, we can help each other, since it feels like envy and pray for ourselves. We have some promises we can remind the authorities and world rulers of in that connection Eph 1:20-23.

    Isaiah 53:5-7 But then I thank Him anyway, because He probably thinks I should sit still and be kind, pray and praise our Lord and Master Jesus Christ.

    Dear Father in heaven We put all our desire in being with You Jesus. Thank you for looking at my sister of grace here on the web Jesus. Strengthen and comfort her with what is in YOUR will Lord. If You touch her it will happen, We pray that this is Your will in Jesus Christ's Holy Name. You are our friend in need, You who healed diseases and delivered people from possession. We know that You are Almighty and Eternal God, we thank You in advance for answered prayers. Thank You that we know that it also happens today, Joh 14:6
  • Willow - 10 months ago
    So many names, so many times - and He came through them all. That the King would come from a broken lineage,to make of broken hearts one redeemed Body. 1 Corinthians 12:27

    The names that the Gospel of Matthew so carefully preserves - from Abraham to Joseph. There is order there, and purpose.

    Ephesians 3:6

    Today, we are part of that same body, though in a different way: not by natural descent, but by the faith that unites us to the Son. John 1:12-13

    Those who came before prepared the way for the One who would gather in Himself all who were lost. Isaiah 53:5

    If the Body of Christ is made up of many members, then the genealogy is like the bone -

    the unseen but essential structure of the human body. Each generation upheld the promise - even without fully understanding - until the promise became flesh. 1 John 4:4

    For there lies the evidence that the Lord came not through angels, but through people - fathers and mothers,

    the righteous and the unrighteous. Matthew 24

    If we are His body, as the Scriptures say, then we are also grafted into that lineage - not by blood, but by grace.

    Not heirs by right, but by adoption. And that, to me, is the sweetest form of belonging.

    The genealogy of Christ is, therefore, a body - and in it, we were placed.
  • Chris - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Hi Teddy45. The Bible does not tell us about the appearance of Jesus, nor for that matter, of others. But we can assume that the seed that God had placed in Mary, to be born into the world as Jesus the Son of God, would not be so different or standing out from others of His day. He probably had the appearance, skin tone, & wore clothing similar to others of the Middle East. A little glimpse however, is seen in Isaiah 53:2, "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him." We know this verse/chapter is prophetical about the coming One, Jesus; and it tells us that His appearance would be as a normal Man in that day, not exceptionally handsome or outstanding that anyone should be drawn to Him for that reason. Rather, that all would & should be drawn to Him for His Words of Truth, His sinless impeccable Life, & of course His sacrificial death for all.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Romans 12:21 states Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. I'm not sure if that is KJV but close enough...

    Obviously the idea of forgiveness as stated with your other response to prayer is needed; there are many scriptures in that subject such as forgiving seven times seventy in the Gospels.

    My discernment leads me to stating that there appear to be several things missing in your attempt to find relief for these thoughts. First of all; it is by His love; or Agape that we overcome and that brings healing- Isaiah 53:5; with His stripes we are healed!

    Secondly; you are given the tools to serve those who "despitefully use you". ( Luke 6:28). This does not mean that you should continue to surround yourself with people that are physically or mentally abusive if it can be avoided. I pray that He delivers you from that.

    Third; you need to guard against whatever vices and demonic influences the other people have that in turn can affect you. Satan comes to kill steal and destroy. You are called to set free those who the Lord places in your path; if they will not accept that then eventually you will be delivered from them.

    Of course we need to keep in mind that vengeance is mine; I shall repay. ( Romans 12:19). Obviously if they hated Christ first they will also hate us as Jesus warned. Those who reject Christ are enemies of God. It is wickedness that is done in the house of God that needs to be dealt with directly; as we are supposed to be the standardbearers of truth. This is one way that so much evil has come into this society because so much is tolerated; we know that judgment begins in the house of God ( 1 Peter 4:17-19). We can speak out as the Spirit leads in warning and exhortation of judgment to come.

    I will keep you in prayer and ask you for deliverance from these thoughts and the control it seems to have so you can be set free.

    Agape. Rich P
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Isaiah 53:11

    11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

    This verse sums up the truth that for all He suffered Jesus was to be satisfied with the result; that is many sons coming to glory ( Heb. 2:10). The riches of His glory is seen in Ephesians 3:16 which states: That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man...

    A life well lived can be seen according to Paul's example in Philippians 4:12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.

    Many will focus on Paul's hardships and rightly so; but if we consider when he is full and abounds let us compare that to a moment to the unbelieving world. A lot of rich people like to have a positive thinking attitude; which is self aggrandizing if focused on self. What all men have in common is that they can't take it with them when they die. Job 1:21 states:

    ... Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD." We are instructed in Ecclesiastes to do all our hands while we yet have time: Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

    What we do bring in the next life is the harvest we have produced in terms of souls reached for Him; and good works we have performed that had been prepared for us since before the foundation of the world ( Eph. 2:10; Eph. 1:4).

    I conclude therefore that money; something discussed a lot in the Gospels is neutral; it is our affections that must be driven by our love for the Lord not money. We can have much and truly be rich; or spiritually impoverished.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    John 17:1-5,

    Part 2.

    2, As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

    Jesus confirms that the Father has given Him power over all humanity and that, through His redemptive work, God grants eternal life to all those whom He has given to Jesus. Jesus understood the Scriptures, including what had been said about Him and what He would do and suffer, as illustrated in Isaiah 53:1-12. This indicates that all of humanity has been entrusted to

    Christ, beginning with the lost sheep of Israel, and that anyone who believes in Jesus will not perish but will have eternal life.

    This was God's plan to make salvation possible, man had to pay the penalty, the only way humanity can be reconciled to Him, as indicated in John 14:6. The word " power " is derived from the Greek word " exousia, " meaning authority. Through the Spirit of God, He granted His power and authority to Jesus Christ over humanity, John 3:34-35, John 5:26-27, Acts 10:38.

    The Holy Spirit enabled Jesus to speak the words the Father had given him to speak, John 14:24. After God raised Jesus from the dead, the Father placed all heaven and earth under Jesus, Matthew 28:18, Ephesians 1:19-23, and Philippians 2:9-11.

    Jesus's mission was to do the will of the Father. In John 5:19-23, Jesus says He can do nothing by Himself, same in John 5:30. God has committed all judgment unto the Son. The word committed is the Greek word didmi, to give, to grant, to bestow; it was deliberately transferred to Jesus to do the will of the Father who sent Him.

    This highlights God's plan being fulfilled, emphasizing Jesus' role as the Messiah appointed and given authority by the Father.

    See part 3.
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Concluding thoughts for now on Christ's perfect character.

    I am not sure if continuing the rest of Matthew will bring out a lot of new points of this particular subject but I may do it anyway for general insights. The last posting about Jesus and His statement about who are His mother and brothers in Matthew 12:48

    must have been rather stinging in the family's ears. He had demonstrated love and loyalty to His family so they had to know there was no malice in His words. Perhaps we need to remember that when we consider counting the cost ( Luke 14:28).

    Here's the lyrics of that old song from David Meece originally out in 1983; I'll focus on the second verse as most pertinent today:

    The modern-day disciple

    Still has a price to pay

    There's a war within, and a war with sin

    And he fights it ev'ryday

    So be sure and understand

    The voice you hear behind the call

    You can't come with half a heart

    Because He's asking for it all

    Kind of smacks you like a V-8 commercial. You don't see 'em lyrics anymO!

    Ok; I digress. God uses men to help encourage and rebuke us; and generally motivate us by example and prodding for service in the Kingdom. In the long run; we all have to come to personal communion with the Lord regularly to learn to seek His face and hear His voice to continue to run the race and endure to the end. If we don't we WILL fail; burn out or some sadly will apostatize. The thought is enough to bring tears to my eyes; but it must be godly sorrow as a million tears of human sorrow as to unfaithfulness and disobedience amount to nothing. Today frankly we don't even see much worldly sorrow! Jesus was a man of sorrows; and acquainted with our grief ( Isaiah 53:3). Surely the Apostle's lives weren't exactly a rose garden (except for the thorns I suppose). But they would be rewarded ( Rev. 21:14). He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many.. ( Isaiah 53:11)
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    The nature of deception: Introduction

    Isaiah 66:4 says "I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not."

    This reminds us of the sobering verse of 2 Thessalonians 2:11 on "The lie" which no doubt means Antichrist and his false prophet ultimately in the Tribulation.

    John 10:38 states that we can believe in Christ simply because of the miracles He does; but many others warn of thinking He is anything other than God's Son which itself is only revealed by the Father in heaven to whom He chooses.(see Matthew 16:13-20; and Matthew 11:27 just a couple chapters back as well as much of the Gospel of John for further study on these truths.)

    Isaiah 53:2 dispels all the images made of Christ which are venerated. The opposite of not believing Him and the potential of committing the unpardonable sin of blaspheming the Spirit ( Matthew 12:31) is elevating Christ to that of any other man; as the Son of Man is greater than His creation. We see other verses where He excoriates those in the cities where He did many miracles and stated the punishment for unbelief would be greater than that of Sodom. With Peter we see how the thoughts of man no matter how "noble" they may have seemed in respect to Jesus not dying on the cross because of His notoriety brought the stern rebuke against Satan himself who was operating through Peter at the time; remarkably very shortly after Christ revealed that Peter could only have recieved revelation as to who He truly was from God Himself.

    We can look at many in the ministry today as we approach the last days judgment of the church before the rest of the world is judged and see how many traps lead men to perdition. We need to be real and believe Jesus when He states the narrow road is only followed by a few; especially when Christianity is "politically correct."
  • ByHISgrace - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Loretta, I am praying for you.

    Your post has attracted a lot of comments.

    Do not be confused.

    Trust YAH/GOD [ Proverbs 3:5-6] and go to HIS Word and let it lead you and guide you.

    HE and HE alone IS the Great Physician [ Isaiah 53:5 & Psalm 103:3] although HE has HIS representatives on the earth, they are in the vast minority because as it is written satan has deceived the "whole" world [ Revelation 12:9]

    Pharmakeia [pharmaceuticals] by its very definition in the Greek means witchcraft. [ pharmakea, far-mak-i'-ah; from G5332; medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively):-sorcery, witchcraft.]

    So be very discerning and ALWAYS ask the HOLY SPIRIT OF YAH for Wisdom [ James 1:5] that you may understand HIS Word to sift out truth from fiction or truth from half truths, that HE may guide your feet to [ Psalm 119:105] where HE may want you to go and to whom, if any, that HE may want you to go to.

    Also that most of all, HE would teach you about the power and authority that HE has placed in you, even from the foundation of the world [ Ephesians 1:4-6]; and which HE reinforced in the forming of the template [Adam] of material man [ Genesis 1:26 ] when HE [ELOHIM- I.E. THE PLURALITY OF HIMSELF] said Let US make man in our own image and likeness; and again when YESHUA/JESUS said that you can do all that HE does and even more [ John 14:12]

    May YAH continue to Keep you. In YESHUA MIGHTY NAME.AMEN.
  • RED APPLE TREATY 4 ME ONLY - 1 year ago
    Goodevening Elder Graves thanks for the opportunity writing my ministry commenting on your website blog right now

    View from phone with Paragraphs and Lines

    Introduction Quoted by Elder Graves Line 8 ending in his people Reginald Taylor Jr interpetation: YHWH Yireh,YHWH Rapha

    His people to hear his voice.

    Discussion Questions

    1) How does Jesus' embodiment of each covenant name ofYHWHdeepen your understanding of His role in our salvation?

    My Respond:

    2) YHWH Yirehmeans "The Lord will provide." How does Jesus' role as our provider strengthen your trust in God's provision, both spiritually and physically?

    My Respond:

    That God will allow me to have what the Word of God says I should have.

    My Respond:

    John 1:29

    I like that John 1:29 Jesus sacrifice takes place when we're needed in God. Provides forgiveness, eternal life meeting my spiritual needs

    3) In what ways have you experienced Jesus asYHWH Rapha, your healer? What areas of your life, beyond physical healing, have been touched by His restoration?

    My Respond:

    Isaiah 53:5 KJV by all means Jesus restores and heal the sick, opened the blind eyes and raised the dead.

    I trust Jesus for eyes to see . I have faith in Jesus resurrection.

    4) How does knowing Jesus asYHWH Nissi, your banner of victory, encourage you in your spiritual battles?

    I have faith in this scripture and use it daily giving God thanks no despair, harm, danger can hurt me. Jeremiah 29:11 ESV

    1 Corinthians 15:57 KJV

    5)Jesus is called thePrince of Peace. How does His fulfillment ofYHWH Shalombring peace to your heart, especially in times of conflict or anxiety?

    My Respond:

    Isaiah 9:6 KJV gives us peace. I have faith the door is open unto me and I shall have what I say and want through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    Ephesians 2:14 KJV Has blessed me with bowels of mercy overcoming Satan.
  • RicoUS - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Prayed. Psalm 50:15, Romans 8:31, Psalm 121, Psalm 3:3, Isaiah 53:5-6
  • S Spencer - 1 year ago
    Goodmorning

    I removed my previous post because I wanted to emphasize the name "LORD of hosts" and what it meant.

    It comprises the Trinity which I believe to be true.

    However,

    other portions of the posts I believe I should have completed the study before I revealed it, or proofread before I posted it right before bed time.

    There was a lot left out that I should have included, for instance, When John quoted Isaiah 53:1 "who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?

    We should ask ourselves what was reported that they were blind to.

    Then I would list

    Isaiah 9:6 along with Isaiah 53:1-12.

    John 12:32-33 Jesus states If I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

    This he said, signifying what death he should die.

    In John 12:34 The people answered him, We have heard out of the law that Christ abideth for ever: and how sayest thou, The Son of man must be lifted up? WHO IS THIS SON OF MAN?

    The should have known about coming and purpose by the fulfillment of many OT scripture.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Page 3. Momsage.

    If I might relate two examples (shared here a long while ago) with just word-for-word difficulties. A language translator missionary (I personally know her) doing her work amongst a tribal group in Papua New Guinea, came across Isaiah 53:6 as part of her work: "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all". She couldn't get a word for 'sheep' in her target language, simply because they knew nothing of sheep/never seen one. Her dilemma: should she be faithful to the Word and use sheep, maybe giving them some type of picture & their habits to help them, or should she substitute the word for another. If she described a sheep to those with her now, others in later years reading the Bible, may not have the same benefit of her present teaching/translation. So she changed the word to 'pig' ('all we like pigs have gone astray'). Pigs they knew, for they herded them & seen them in the wild, with their propensity to wander off if left unwatched.

    A personal example, when sharing from the Word in Pakistan with a Church group. Not having a good grip on Urdu (Pakistan's national language), I used a translator & as is always good practise, to go through the message with him so that he too can be prepared. I referred to 1 John 4:10, "Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins". 'Propitiation' is a big word even for English-speakers, so asked my translator for the Urdu word for it & how he understood it. He gave the word as 'kaffara', which simply means 'atonement'. I asked, "was that all it meant to him (& by extension to all Christians in Pakistan)?" He replied, "Yes, that is how we all read that verse", because they have no word for 'propitiation' = to appease, or satisfy God's Anger. Obviously, I had to explain further to both him & the congregation, its meaning.

    Onto Page 4.
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Proper praise for a brother or sister in Christ

    In light of my last post and the ever-present 2000 character restriction I am always finding novel ways to cut things off at exactly that point. Okay I've had my beef over that issue...

    Encouragement seems rare; but then again I'm not the most personable chap on the block; maybe what goes around comes around. Usually I don't know how to handle it; it is hard to accept for several reasons but we should consider such things as in proper setting it surely can be strengthening; and edifying.

    As a man; I probably will elicit some shock from the ladies in saying that I have to watch it with females that may seem attractive in some way and not to mix up those thoughts with what is purely spiritual from the Lord as a strength that I wish to point out. Maybe women aren't subject to such things as much. I'm not trying to get into some sort of discussion here outside of scripture but trying to clarify the subject at hand by stating such encouragement may be better offered between one man or woman and other. At any rate; in true brotherly or sisterly love the sacrifice of time and effort for prayer; discipleship and just helping out with errands; for instance allows us to start to get to know one another better with those who we fellowship with as opposed to a site like this in some ways. Not to say that I don't appreciate such empathy here.

    Jesus was known as a "man of sorrows" ( Isaiah 53:3). We can look to the Apostles; the prophets of old and many Godly saints who have been forgotton; and as Hebrews 11:38 states this world was not worthy of them. Hearts have hardened so that finding someone who demonstrates God's love is again; at least from my perspective rare among professing believers. It seems women are often more empathetic but there are still some men out there who are as well. I realize Father's Day is come and gone but those men who are TRULY men should be recognized; not as "machos" but Godly.
  • BJGibson - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Healing can be based on mercy, healing always requires faith, great faith produces miracles (think about Jesus how He had great faith) It takes time to be holy, if a believer does not yet have great faith to produce miracles, then continue to grow the faith that you have. Each has a measure of faith. Healing can also be a process.

    Yes, the promises of healing still apply and are active. God does not change His mind concerning that He sent His only begotten son to save, HEAL and deliver. Now Jesus has rose from the dead and has all power in heaven and in earth, (not just in certain places) everywhere you believe or where ever there is faith there is healing and deliverance.

    It takes time to be holy, if a believer does not yet have great faith to produce miracles, then grow the faith you have. It shows you have faith because you came to this website. Each day work and build up your most holy faith.

    A large mountain is climbed one step at a time. Believe everyday, all day, commune with God in your heart, hold fast to your believeth that God loves you and is for you to be healed. Go to the doctor if you have to, but hold fast to your faith in God.

    "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed." Isaiah 53:5 KJV

    "Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done." Matthew 21:21 KJV

    "Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth." Mark 9:23 KJV

    "...but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word." Isaiah 66:2 KJV

    Faith works if you hold on to the faith. God is always standing by.
  • BJGibson - In Reply - 1 year ago
    "Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth." Mark 9:23 KJV

    "And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God." Luke 18:27 KJV

    As a believer, I, believe God concerning your prayer petition before God, and that,

    "... he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed." Isaiah 53:5 KJV

    "O LORD God of hosts, hear my prayer: give ear, O God of Jacob. Selah." Psalms 84:8 KJV

    As a believer, I stand in agreement that God hears and answers prayers, Amen.
  • BJGibson - In Reply - 1 year ago
    "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed." Isaiah 53:5 KJV

    In Jesus Christ name, Amen.
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Further thoughts on Psalm 2

    As we apply these verses to prayer; we may consider that His victory means our victory; in the sense of our eternal future living with Him forever in heaven as well as now; when we suffer for His Name's sake we are fulfilling the Great Commission; and are assured of a reward in heaven as Jesus alludes to in the Sermon on the Mount. All of our life should therefore be wrapped up in the greater purposes; sowing in tears to reap later in joy ( Psalm 126:5-6). The meaning and purpose of earthly blessings common to man is only appreciated in the light of the weight of eternal glory. We ask for good things so that we can further His Kingdom; especially in regard to the filling of the Holy Spirit ( Luke 11:13). In praise; we ask that the King be exalted; and of course that starts in our hearts.

    We look at Christ who suffered and His visage was marred more than any man ( Isaiah 52:14). But He shall see and be satisfied with His travail ( Isaiah 53:11). He willingly suffered in our place to fulfill the wish of the Father; but also came to serve and not be served as an example to us. ( Mark 10:45). We shall see Him exalted and victorious and no longer suffering; and no doubt He will rejoice for us as well. Therefore; we endure knowing that patience will have it's perfect work ( James 1:4).

    This doesn't mean we don't long every day to see an end to suffering; but we know that we are gaining further eternal rewards in continuing to live faithfully until death or He comes on this earth. This should be a motivation primarily for others; we see the beginnings of what surely will be increasing numbers of Christians persecuted and martyred as we approach the end. We weary having not only to deal with our own sin and the terrible conditions of the last days but the spiritual warfare which is no doubt at fever pitch today. We must continue to boldly declare His coming conquest and victory even when looking like fools ( 1 Cor. 1:25)
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Israel.

    Part 2.

    Some say the Jews killed Jesus.

    He died by the hard of the Jews but all our sins put him on that cross!

    He could have resisted but that is what he came to do.

    "Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. Matthew 20:28"

    Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. John 10:17-18.

    NO MAN TAKETH IT FROM ME, BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MYSELF. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

    If it was any other way his prayer was not answered in Matthew 26:42-44.

    John 12:23-28 reads "And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.

    Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

    He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

    If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.

    Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.

    Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

    Also;

    John 12:31-33. Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

    And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

    This he said, signifying what death he should die.

    Isaiah 53:7-12 spells it out!

    Notice verse 10.

    "Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

    More to come.

    Goodnight and God bless.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Oseas

    Hey brother just one last thing to consider.

    Daniel 9:24-27, in this prophecy, there are seventy weeks or 490 years determined unto Daniel's people and the holy city to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    Have these 6 things been fulfilled in Jesus the Messiah, and the judgment of it carried out in 70 AD? If so, all of this prophecy has been fulfilled in the past.

    1 To finish the transgression. To break or violate, as a law, civil or moral; the act of transgressing. Psalms 32:1 Isaiah 53:5-11 Romans 4:14-15 Galatians 3:18-19 Hebrews 9:14-15.

    2 To make an end to sins. Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Matthew 1:21 Hebrews 10:8-11 John 1:29 1 Corinthians 15:3 1 John 3:5 Psalm 32:1 Romans 3:21-26 Romans 8:3.

    3 To make reconciliation for iniquity. Reconciliation is an element of salvation that refers to the results of the atonement. Colossians 1:20-22 Isaiah 53:6 Isaiah 53:11 Romans 5:11 Ephesians 2:16 Titus 2:14 2 Corinthians 5:18-19.

    4 To bring in everlasting righteousness. In conformity to the demands of the covenant and according to God's will. Isaiah 61:10-11 Romans 3:21-26 Romans 5:17-21 2 Corinthians 5:21 1 Peter 2:24.

    5 To seal up the vision and prophecy. The greatest prediction, which runs like a golden thread through the whole contents of the Old Testament, is that regarding the coming and work of the Messiah, Jesus. Daniel 9:23 Matthew 11:11-15 Mark 1:14-15 John 5:36-40 John 6:27 Acts 3:18.

    6 To anoint the most holy. The high priest went into the holy of holies once a year with the blood of a sacrificed bull. Jesus our high priest with His own blood anointed the most holy not made with hands once and for all, forever. Hebrews 9:6-14.

    Jesus said it in John 19:28-30.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Communication with God: Prayers and petitions

    Point #3 Physical healing.

    Some may be familiar with the verse "with His stripes we are healed" ( Isaiah 53:5). It is on every cover of the "Stryper" albums.

    I could spend much of this post presenting scriptures related to protection from plagues directly related to blessings and cursings; miracles of the "Apostolic" era when it seemed more commonplace to see things happen even to the extent that touching the edge of a garment would bring healing (seen in both the Gospels and the book of Acts). There is; or should be no doubt as to the validity of genuine miracles that Christ did in numerous examples; and no doubt other occurrences which weren't recorded.

    The same holds true in general until the N.T. Canon was completed which by reasonable estimates was just shy of the end of the

    1st Century AD (and there goes my paragraph margins all haywire)...

    I have seen the detailed analysis from several reliable sources online which have discussed the events since the "Azuza Street Revival" up to present day "signs and wonders" and admittedly a fair minded analysis is to say the least discouraging. It is no wonder some decide to become atheists after some of the sideshow antics; unverified "healings"; and downright sadistic techniques where people are slammed down and brutalized to demonstrate some so called miracle. I won't mention who did that a few years back. A realistic breakdown of all scenarios are as follows:

    1) Reported miracles that are unverifiable which are later found out to be hoaxes definitively. Naturally the "perpetrators" in order to keep fleecing their flock won't ask for repentance or admit their sin. At best they will slither to a different ministry or; if we're lucky to another worldly method of getting rich quick and leave the rest of us alone.

    2) Reported miracles that are unverifiable which cannot be deduced after careful analysis if they are true or not with insufficient evidence.
  • MotherMac - 2 years ago
    Reply to KJV on Isaiah 53:5

    Thank you for taking time to help me understand Isaiah 53:5.

    Healing puts back in place something that is out of order. Healing fixes things. Jesus' purpose in the land of the living was to make us whole.

    It seems that Jesus reassured people that came to him for healing that their sins would not hinder their healing if they believed. Isaiah 53:5 is referring to both body and soul. In one scripture , the devils knew the prophesy of Isaiah concerning him. Jesus not only heals the "sin-sick soul, (transgression, iniquities) but the mind, BODY and soul. (COVID, Cancer, AIDS, Heart

    Trouble, High blood pressure, diabetes) I noticed that in many conversation with the sick, Jesus mentions "sin." He was connecting sickness and sin.

    St. James also mentioned Elders of the Church in relations to prayers for healing "sickness. and "sin."

    The words " the chastisement of our peace, (our anxieties)

    was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed." "Jesus stripes" are talking about healing every part of us that need fixing.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi MotherMac.

    We have a wonderful God and he does heal However, Isaiah 53:5 is not emphasizing that kind of healing. In fact it's talking about much more than healing the body.

    Isaiah 53:4-6.

    Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

    But HE WAS WOUNDED FOR OUR "TRANSGRESSIONS", HE WAS BRUISED FOR OUR 'INIQUITIES": the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

    (All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the "INIQUITY" of us all.)

    Isaiah 53:5 is emphasizing Christ as the sacrificial Lamb, taking our place on the cross.

    (We are healed from the penalty of sin.)

    By this we become sons of God!

    For encouragement I would associate these passages with Romans 8:14-18 and

    Romans 8:32.

    "He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, HOW SHALL HE NOT WITH HIM ALSO FREELY GIVE US ALL THINGS?

    We go to him with faith and confidence as a son and ask if it's in his will.

    God bless.


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