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Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds I will be like the most High. 24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Son of the morning- Not morning star Damian Rivas- Jesus was called the Bright and morning star not just morning star

The word star means angels ( why we must think about who is in hollywood ) but that is for another discussion- But- Job 38:7

When Satan was kicked out of Heaven ( Isaiah 14:12-14), he took a third of the angels with him ( Job 38:7; Revelation 12:4). This means that there are twice as many of God's angels as there are of Satan's, not to mention that God Himself is with us ( Psalm 46:7). Truly, there be more with us than there are with them.

The temptation of Jesus shows three major areas of life which the devil will tempt us in: 1 Eating too much. If we are eating all the time then we cannot hear from heaven because it dulls our spiritual senses. 2 Satan is always luring us to kill ourselves to commit suicide particularly, around the holidays when we are lonely. Satan tempts us to commit suicide, but pray for strenght and power over the loneliness because the Lord loves you. Satan tempts us to worship him and the kingdoms of this world because he is jealous over God. Read Isaiah 14: 12-15. Also, Read Ezekiel 28: 14:17. It is Satan's desire to be like God and to be worshipped as God. Remain true to the one God our Savior Jesus Christ whom the Father sent to save you, delivered you and sustain you. Be strong in the Lord and in the power of his might. Love.

Wesley's notes exclude any and all other possibilities. It is easy to believe what the literal aspect says, but the so called fallen angels, able to fly through to space and come to earth, now cannot fly anywhere for safety but drown and die as weak and helpless beings do. The Ana, maybe the inhabitants of under the earth Job is referring to, a race of beings living within the Earth, described by Sir Bulwer Lytton in his "The power of the coming race" describes an amazing experience he had while going down into a mine with his friend. He sheds a light upon the possibility that the so called "fallen angels" were in fact beings from outer space and for a reason beyond the scope of this comment ended up on earth. Furthermore, Michael Tsarion, shares on youtube many quotes from old manuscripts in which the destruction of Lucifer, sometimes called Tiamat, or Phaeton by the old Greeks, is described, a massive mostly ocean planet between Mars and Jupiter, now the asteroid field, that shone like the sun, hence the ancients description of it in Isaiah 14:12, "how art thou fallen from heaven thou Lucifer son of the morning..." so the Deluge was actually the frozen bits of Tiamat's body raining down on Earth causing worldwide floods, not God destroying everyone on Earth because of their sin. It is forbidden for a believer to open his her mind to any other possibility other than God send the floods...and wash their hands of everything else.

To answer you Jo's,Please read Isaiah 55:8,9 and Romans 11:33,34. You cannot fanthom the nature and work of God.And God didnt put man on earth with Satan.Satan was overthrown from heaven due to his pride onto the earth.Read Isaiah 14:12-14,Ezekial 28:15-17,Rev.12:7-9.On earth he deceived Adam and Eve and sin originated which result in death and which means the separation between God and Man.In creation,God spoke and His Word brought those spoken things into existence.So everything,seen and unseen things were brought into existence by the Word of God.This word is Jesus Christ whom Paul said everything was created by Him and for Him.Hence we humans,been His inheritance,He became one of us to redeem us from sin and bring immortality to light.He accomplisd this upon his death and resurection when he defeated Satan who had the power over death-Heb.2:14-15,Rev.1:18.Now upon His return,he will punish Satan and those who refuse to obey him by sending them to eternal destruection.He will however glorify His Saint and we will assume His nature and be like him.He wl take us to heaven and there we will be with him forever.2Th1:8,9,1Jn.3:2,3,1Th.4:16-19,1Cor.15:51-54.Pls read all versus.

I have a little grandson, aged 4 who has been diagnosed with this behavior. It is most evident...he argues, where there is NO argument. Please pray that his parents choose the right form of correction. The mother, my daughter is in complete panic, and the father thinks there is nothing wrong. There IS something wrong, and Isaiah 14:14 describes it to a tee.

To all of my brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus: That man of sin, the son of perdition, has been revealed to us by the Holy Spirit of God. The same is Lucifer Isaiah 14:8 thru 15 and the Assyrian Isaiah 10:5 and Isaiah 14:25 . The same is the great dragon, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world Revelation 12:9 . The same is the lion Job 4:10, Job 38:39, Psalms 22:21, Psalms 91:13, Jeremiah 4:7, Jeremiah 25:38, Amos 3:8, Nahum 2:11, Nahum 2:12, 2 Timothy 4:17 and 1 Peter 5:8 . The same was involved in the 2005 Cedar Revolution in Lebanon Isaiah 14:8 . The same speaks very softly in his interviews see Job 41:3 yet the mighty of the world are terrified of him, and rightly so, to the point of urinating their pants Job 41:25 . The same was born in Damascus on 11 September 1965. His last name in Arabic means "the lion". Pray to our Father in heaven, in the name of our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST, that we may be found worthy to escape this evil! May the Lord JESUS be glorified. Amen

Please read Mark 13. For Damian, thank you God bless you. Do not be deceived.

WHEN THE MOST HIGH SPEAK, THE WISE OBEY AND BE BLESSED, AND THE FOOL DISOBEY AND FACE HIS UNBEARABLE WRATH, DISTROTION

What I wanna know and what bugs me is, why is it that the other verse of the bible, besides the KJV, refer to lucifer as "son of the morning star " in verse 12. We know only 1 star and that 's JESUS CHRIS, like known in Revelation 22:16. So someone please help me

This indicate that whosoever rebel against God shall be cast into hellfire at the end irrespective of person and position.

"Above the stars " means above all the angels

Spiritual freedom is good to the humble people who wil cherish and conserve it not to the proud.Jealous,greediness is not a good thing in man it is better to be pleased with what we have despite Satan given all the good things he was not happy wanted to be a Creator .

THIS CHAPTER IS DETAILING FUTURE EVENTS THAT HAS NOT HAPPEN YET CONCERNING THE REAL YISRAELITES WHO ARE THE SLAVES OF TRANS ATLANTIC VOYAGES. WE WILL SOON RETURN TO OUR HOME LAND. SHALOM

God said don 't think more highly of yourself yhan you ought.

Verse 29 is talking about a nuclear missile that explodes in mid air to produce multiple nuclear warheads that fan out like a roosters tail. Several countries today have this military capability. This verse may be speaking of allies that enter into the world war.

The chapter speaks of a past but is also a future event. It speaks of the rulers of the world who are they? And interjected at the middle is the fall of Lucifer, not insignificant, for we know the real rulers are Lucifer worshipper. Many that say the are Jews are not Jews. God will liberate the real Jews from "rulers ".

Never try to exalt your self above God, we re pencil in the hands of the creator.

God forgives but dont take advantage of it and he loves you even if u sin

This verse encourages me to hold on. It let me know trouble dont last always. God will give you rest from your oppressors and even turn it around and make the oppressors the servants.

This is Satan declaring that he will make himself "like " God. Has he accomplished this task? I say yes...

this has become the standard for most the world today The rich have exhorted themselves high the strong have exhorted themselves above the weak the smart people have exhorted there self to thinking there is no GOD I pray that our eyes will be opened the day of the lord is upon us gates of hell opening wide

Satan was the most Beautiful and powerful angel in heaven so pride overcome him and so he wanted to rule over the most high and so he was cast out of heaven onto the earth here he wage war with god deceived man, Satan have enaumos power the only thing that he cannot do is to breath the breath of life into man he has deceived us all but in the end God shall triumph, As all the ungodly and the unjust shall go down into hell with the devil and his host.

In the New International Version NIV bible, Isaiah 14 12 says "How you have fallen from heaven,morning star, son of the dawn... " i think this NIV bible changed the original, as if it was Jesus says that he is the morning star or "Lucifer ". Don 't believe NIV Bible!

This verse casts away doubts about where the past and future Presidents of the United States are currently residing at right now.

The Lord will have compassion on Jacob once again he will choose Israel and will settle them in their own land. Foreigners will join them and unite with the descendants of Jacob. 2 Nations will take them and bring them to their own place. And Israel will take possession of the nations and make them male and female servants in the Lord s land. They will make captives of their captors and rule over their oppressors. LOOKS LIKE IF YOUR NOT AN OPPRESSOR OR CAPTOR, NO MATTER YOUR PAST, YOU HAVE A CHANCE SO LONG AS YOUR A NEW PERSON BEFORE DEADLINE. SUCH AS STARTING NOW. MAYBE ALSO VOLUNTEER TO SAVE THOSE YOU OPPRESSED IN THIS LIFE OR ANYTIME. AFTER ALL...Foreigners will join. ISAIAH 14 20

Indeed Isa 14 12 14 there are many interpretations for the fallen one in these verses 1 he is satan because the person here is powerful to be any human king 2 this could be sennacherib or Nebuchadnezzar kings with power Their people looked upon them as gods These kings wanted to rule the world 3 This could refer to both satan and a human king possibly Nebuchadnezzar because Babylon is pictured as the seat of evil in Revelation 17 18 Pride was satan s sin as well as Babylon s Common to all three view points is the truth that pride willfully opposes God and will result in judgement

What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? that the Lord hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.

This is my dream to return to my resting place and birth were jesus walked and talked and lived

My name is Zion Jarrett thats the name god gave to me when i was in church the children called me Zion i have never looked back and said no way i accepted his calling i am very happy i did thank you so much for the meany comments

Zion

I'm quite shocked that people are reading Isaiah 14 and believing that Lucifer refers to Jesus! If we read the context of the chapter we see that if you believe this then you 1. Believe Jesus brought sin here. 2. Jesus weakened the nations. 3. Has caused all the destruction and death. 4. Will be destroyed by the Father.
READ in context! The devil is so much smarter than us, so smart he makes many believe that he is God and Jesus is the devil! There was a literal meaning to this chapter, but also a spiritual meaning which points towards the great controversy between Jesus Christ and satan: this same lie that he told Eve he is STILL promoting; Genesis 3:5.
"For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
(Paraphrased, he told Eve she would be like God, as Satan himself believes he is!)