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Chris & GiGi,

You are missing the point of the narrative, the sixth trumpet, the day of the lord, judgment day when both houses of Israel experience Jacobs time of trouble. Spend some time with Isaiah 47, see how America is described, told to sit in the dirt, in darkness.

You said Israel will be "preserved". Israel will be invaded and taken into a third captivity at the day of the lord ( Luke 21:20-24). America will be nowhere to be found to save Israel, they received their part in the abomination of desolation in the same hour, spoken of by Daniel. Antichrist rules all strong holds for 42 months, at which time Christ returns to take the kingdom. It is at this point and only at this point that Israel is reestablished, Isaiah 14:2, with the resurrected saints, and only the saints.

Behold, I come quickly; blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. Revelation 22:7

Jesus Christ himself placed the benchmark high according to the prophets, and not about what's convenient for man. Uncomfortable truths here are discouraged from uncovering. Did Ham's son bear the curse God dealt out or not? If you can't face the small facts, how are you gonna handle the day of the Lord when it takes you by surprise, simply because you never understood what it was. The trumpets you ignore. That's a shame, but then the Lord says when His people are attacked, Ezekiel 21:12, they will not know from where it came from, as if they're too caught up in their own Gospel to know the difference.

Do you wonder why the USSR fell in 1991 of a deadly wound, and up popped up a new country, a new government, called The Russian Federation? Daniel 7:8 Russia is the little horn, more stout than his fellows Daniel 7:20 Russia is run by a president who refers to his nuclear arsenal as a "fiery serpent" Isaiah 14:29.

You people literally have no idea what's about to go down while this is what I carry around every day:

And it shall be when they say unto thee,Wherefore sighest thou? that thou shall answer for the tidings because it come as an every heart shall melt and all hands shall be civil and every spirit shall faint and all knees shall be weak as water behold it, and it shall be brought to pass saith the Lord God. Ezekiel 21:7

Ezekiel and the rest of the prophets see what I see coming and there's no denying it. If you have the least bit inclination as to what I'm talking about you may as well get your house in order now.

In this chapter; we have one of two infamous commentaries with a detailed description of Lucifer (see verse 12 for specific reference). The other passage in Ezekiel 28 gets into further detail of the "anointed cherub" and his downfall to what is now Satan. There once again; as in so many other prophetic passages in scripture a statement about a human emissary of evil (here no doubt the Antichrist or the "King of Babylon" as quoted in verse 4). He is also referenced as "the Assyrian" in verse 25. No doubt certain previous fulfillments from verse 28 to the end of the chapter with Palestina were fulfilled when King Ahaz died; but the current Palestinians also will face future judgment as earlier passages in Isaiah and elsewhere indicate.

The time element as to the destruction of Antichrist and the False Prophet who will go to judgment in verses 16 to 27 clearly comes before the casting of Satan himself to hell where the "Beast and False Prophet are" at the end of the millennium as stated in Revelation 20:10.

That section would be in verses 12 through 15 in this chapter as a cross reference. The actual brutal world dictatorship mentioned in verse 6 is followed by those in hell in verse 9. The kings of the nations could be also indicate the many nations in Ezekiel who are observing the same thing from the Kingdoms of earth in hell in Ezekiel 32. Those kings of the earth who are imprisoned could also be referred to here in hades awaiting final judgment in Isaiah 24:22. In any case; those who are part of his system will no longer build cities (verse 21); and Revelation discusses all the cities and towers falling. In the mountains of Israel the "Assyrian" will be put to an end (verse 25 and 26); and the living as well as the dead will know it. The section mentioned in verse 12 through 15 shows the original sin of pride and self worship that led to Lucifer's downfall; the end result being judgment after losing his place in heaven; heavenly realms; then the earth

Hi GiGi.

Excuse my corny humor! No we don't go looking for Cherubim to locate the Garden of Eve.

I agree, we just don't know.

However I don't believe where the scripture says he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, TO KEEP THE "WAY" OF THE TREE OF LIFE. Means God set up a road block of some sort.

It means he set gaurd to keep the way open. My sarcasm was it don't take 2 Cherubim to keep little old me out. Angels are known to be mighty.

And as for Adam and Eve and the garden being here on earth, I've never heard it any other way, I believe the scripture plainly states that.

We also have no scripture on what the earth was like before Adam and Eve sinned.

We do know Adam was "placed" in the garden to dress it. Genesis 2:15. "And the LORD God TOOK THE MAN, AND "PUT" HIM INTO THE GARDEN of Eden to dress it and to keep it". Genesis 2:15

And we do know he drove him out to go back to where he was created to till the ground. Genesis 3:23.

And there they populated the Earth.

Here's another provocative view I have heard.

Here in Ezekiel 28:13-14. If the Garden of God and the Garden of Eve is one of the same this is not the view of Satan we have in Genesis!

In Ezekiel he haven't fallen yet, "If" the Garden of Eve and the Garden of God is one of the same when did Satan have his career in it?

Also see Isaiah 14:12-14.

Would this fit into the Gap theory?

This is not a rhetorical question.

You and I admit we don't know, We only have "our" Perspective. Perhaps someone can help us.

God bless.

Glenn. I caution you. Satan is not human. He has to borrow a body. Ephesians 6 Satan, demons, principalities, powers, evil spirits: none have bodies. In the Old Testament they were called inhabitants. Satan took the body of a serpent.

Glued gemstones all over him. You can Google lists of evil spirits names. It's gross.

God was not walking in the garden with invisible spirits.

Secondly, all the giants and evil spirits DROWNED after the flood.

Jesus told demons to get out of the crazy man and go into some pigs__which promptly DROWNED. They wander around looking for people who are drunk, drugged, immoral, etc. to get inside them. They don't mind if we read the Bible or go to church.

They just don't want you to belive it, and live it.

Eve stepped away from her husbands apathy. The serpent was all sparkly with jewels; Adam didn't flinch. She ate the fruit and Adam ate it because he loved Eve more than God. BAM! the 2 Trees were protected and the first HUMANS were driven out. Gods plan of redemption was already in force. A human would die willingly, to pay for the sins of all mankind. Gen. 3:15. When Abraham was willing to sacrifice his own son, for the sins of future Israel; the plan went forward to Luke 1. God became the Son of Man: HUMAN. Jesus would have dominion, power and authority. Satan would be stripped at the Cross. Jesus took satans keys to the prison of death, hell and the grave. He crushed satans neck with his foot.

Isaiah 14:24

You should just give up this Old Earth Cult and be born again from Jesus. Follow Him. He will give you the Holy Spirit forever: to be your Teacher and Revealer of scripture in the KJV Bible. Ask Him to wipe your hard drive (brain) and Help you to win souls to God. Wise he is, who wins souls to God. Holy Spirit just said to tell you read in Timothy.

Good night.

Jim This where things get interesting because look at the context of describing lucifer Isaiah 14:12-17 specifically verse 13 [I will exalt my above the stars of God also I will ascend very lofty terminology. In Ezekiel 28:11-18 esp. verse 13

thou Hast been in Eden the garden of God look at the rest of the verses. verse 15 thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created until iniquity was found in thee. There are times also when there figures of speech used in descriptions like verse 12 King of Tyrus Same guy.

Eljer777,

There are writings outside the Bible, these two are mentioned in the Bible, the book of Enoch, Jude 1:14, the book of Jasher, Joshua 10:11 2 Samuel 1:18 but are they the original books, and there are the writings of Josephus.

Scripture does tell us Satan entered Judas, John 13:27, we see in Matthew 12:26 Jesus said, if Satan cast out Satan, suggests he could possess someone, but Mark writes the same conversation, he writes Jesus is speaking in parables, Mark 3:23.

In Daniel 8 not covering Media and Persia, Alexander the Great, and the four it is Antiochus went plundering to place himself above all including God, Isaiah 14:13 is a good description of his intent. He almost destroyed Jerusalem and the worship of God by Israel and placed the abomination in the temple, but he failed. Host of heaven in Paganism are the sun, moon, stars, and planets that is worshiped, but this is not about angels.

Demons and angels are not the same but if you are looking for scripture it is not in the Bible we have. Fallen angels are not in scripture just a definition that has been given the bad ones. Some angels left their first estate and are locked in chains of darkness (bottomless pit), 2 Peter 2:4 Jude 1:6. They have a king, his name in Hebrew Abaddon, Greek Apollyon Revelation 9:1, the hell you speak of, in my understanding comes from Platonism and not scripture.

Revelation 12 that many places in the past but it is yet in the future, the battle is in heaven, so these angels still have access to heaven. When Satan and these angels are cast down to earth will be permanent because it says no more place is found in heaven, Revelation 12:8-12, my understanding this starts the 3.5 years of tribulation when Satan gives his seat, power, and authority to the beast.

There are evil beings on this earth 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 Ephesians 6:12, but how they got here is not in scripture.

Just a little information, may it not add to your questions.

God bless,

RLW

Peter was speaking as a man. What he said was of concern and feelings of loss. He just wasn't thinking. None of us would want to witness Jesus abused and crucified.

But what he spoke was a huge temptation for Jesus. It is HARD to die for mankind before the Cross and after the Cross.

I'm weak and human. I would've cried rather than rejoiced that Jesus was going to destroy the Devils stolen power, FOREVER. It's just part of humanity we deal with every day.

I kick myself in the head when I see people merrily on the way to hell without a care.

If The Lord had not allowed me to see hell, as in Isaiah 14:11. I saw twisted limbs like roots, and the worms moving. I heard many screaming voices. I fell off the chair I was standing on__I thought, into that scene!! When I hit the floor, it was gone. I was delivered from demons by the Lord. When I woke up the next morning, the Holy Spirit was in me. He helped me clean my home of all occult material.

I had to convince my drunken disco buddies I no longer would be going with them. I lost ALL of my friends, for Jesus.

It's true. If you don't seriously start garnishing your "house" (your inner man, your new spirit that is alive to God now) WITH THE SCRIPTURES OF LIFE, the demons will come back to torment you. I went through more deliverance by the Holy Spirit.

We cannot put ANY KIND OF SPIN on the scriptures. If HE cannot trust us to carry the Anointing with reverence, it will be diminished (in my experience).There is no worse feeling of silence and aloneness. You know, that you know, what's missing. It is the Holy Spirit. He is worth more than anything we once thought precious. I had to get honest, real honest, that I could not manage really personal relationships and my new life in evangelism. I let it go and embraced celibacy. It was the right thing. Don't ever risk the loss of the Anointing. Don't allow antichrist spirits to tempt you over scripture. The rewards are awesome. Greater is He

Mishael

Hi Cheryl Sorry Scripture reference Ezekiel 28: King of Tyrus figure of speech for lucifer veres 1-17, also

Isaiah 14:12-16.

Vincent.

You quoted

"Four hundred years in Egypt as owners, paid back by four hundred years of slavery under the house of Israel (UK/US) Isaiah 14:2 The curse of Cannan is representative of certain Africans."

Well to begin with Isaiah 14:2 have not been fulfilled yet,

Look at verse 3: And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

Do Israel have the rest and live without fear over there as promised in Isaiah 14:3.?

The question is was man delivered from the curse of Adams transgression after the flood? I think not, If so we wouldn't have the account in Genesis 9:25-27. Nor would we have the account of Noah drunken with wine.

that you wrongfully ascribe to a people of today we know as black people.

All 8 souls on the Ark were under Adam's transgression "apart from Gods Atonement,' Genesis 6:14. The word pitched used here is "Atonement"

Apart from God's grace we're all Lost and unrighteous and there is no partiality with God.

Genesis 6:8-9. But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

These are the generations of Noah: (Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations,) and Noah walked with God.

We know Noah was just/Justified. In which you can only be by faith! They had faith in their sacrifice and offerings which we know they submitted to the Lord as we see as early as Genesis 4:4.

This is a carnal insert to a Christian forum; we should covet the new birth in the spirit and not rank in our old nature "The flesh.

God bless.

Isaiah 14:28-32 is a separate prophecy, which includes the verse you enquired of. To understand it, a little background first.

This prophecy was given to comfort Judah. It wasn't a message to Palestina (i.e. Philistia) but to assure Judah that they would be in no danger from Philistine invasion under the reign of the successor of Ahaz (i.e. Hezekiah) & that God would more greatly overthrow them than had previously occurred to them.

It's possible that at the death of Ahaz & with the prospect of a change in the government on the accession of Hezekiah, the Philistines, the natural enemies of Judah, had contemplated launching a fresh invasion on Judah. The Philistines had been subdued in the time of Azariah ( 2 Kings 15:1-7); Azariah broke down the wall of Gath, and the wall of Gabneh, and the wall of Ashdod, and effectually subdued and humbled them ( 2 Chronicles 26:6). Then in the time of Ahaz & while Ahaz was engaged in matters with Syria and Ephraim, the Philistines took advantage of the sad state of Judah, and made a successful war on her, and took several of the towns ( 2 Chronicles 28:18); & at his death they hoped to be able to resist Judah more easily since the reign of Hezekiah would be mild, peaceable, and unwarlike. Therefore Isaiah, in this prophecy, gives a warning about Philistia, that they not entertain such incorrect expectations that Judah would be overcome by them, rather gives assurance that Hezekiah's reign would be as disastrous to them as had been the reign of his predecessors.

So verses 29 to 31 depict the horrors that would come upon Philistia; verse 29: the words, 'serpent, serpent's root, cockatrice', are depictions of the previous kings of Judah (Kings Uzziah, Ahaz, & Hezekiah) which, through Hezekiah, would ultimately bring down Philistia ( 2 Kings 18:8).

could some one explain Isaiah 14:29

Dorothea

Lucifer was thrown out of heaven because he wanted to be God. Lucifer was God's right hand angel until he thought he could be God. Here are some of the verses that show where Lucifer was cast out of Heaven and on to the Earth where he (Lucifer) set up his kingdom.

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

And in Luke chapter 10 verse 18 Jesus said I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. ( Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven). Lucifer is Satan and Lucifer / Satan is the prince of this world. Jesus never called Satan the King of this world Jesus just called Satan / Lucifer a prince of this world.

I hope this helps you understand

God Bless

Stay prayed up and ready to go up

Cowboy

Dgjot, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Try to understand that you ARE NOT separate and apart from God, but ONE, you do not exist apart from God.

NOW:

Philippians 2: 13 For it is God (the spirit of LIFE and TRUTH IN YOU) that WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL AND TO DO his good pleasure.

He is the ONLY LIFE and he is working to make you that LIFE ALSO. He want FAIL.

Ephesians 1:11 In whom we also have obtained an INHERITANCE, being predestinated according to the PURPOSE OF HIM who worketh all things after the council of HIS WILL.

Romans 8:29 For whom he foreknow, he also predestinated to be CONFORMED TO THE IMAGE OF HIS SON, so that he might be the first borne among many brethren.

Isaiah 14:24 ....Surely as I have thought, so it shall come to pass, an as I have purposed, so shall it stand.

In Isaiah 14:13-14,

How many times did Lucifer (Satan) say,

"I WILL"?

Satan knows the Bible better than we do. Yet he still believes He will beat Jesus at Armageddon.

Hello Prasanth. The question you ask is a valid one & because the Scriptures are not entirely clear on all the events pertaining to Satan's origin & despatch, we can only formulate an opinion based on what the Scriptures do reveal. Therefore, we can get many opinions on this, even yours could be valid. So, as you've asked the question, let me give you my understanding using a timeline.

a. When God created all things in Heaven (He Himself being un-created), all heavenly beings, etc. were created in eternity past. This was before the creation of the worlds, of man & of other things for the Earth. In Heaven, God created beings such as cherubs, seraphs, beasts, etc., which all had a particular function before God & which constantly worshipped Him ( Ezekiel 10:1-22; Isaiah 6:1-8).

b. One cherub, which was "perfect in thy ways from the day thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee" ( Ezekiel 28:15), is reference to the one the Bible calls, Lucifer ( Isaiah 14:12). Although, the Ezekiel reference is directly to the King of Tyrus, the wording suggests that the spirit within the king is being addressed & described. Lucifer desired to sit in God's place ( Isaiah 14:12-14), therefore he was cast out of Heaven onto the Earth.

c. And Lucifer, also called Satan (in Book of Job), was there in readiness to deform God's perfect creation (man & woman) in the Garden of Eden, that they too might become like him, filled with evil & opposing God & all that is righteous & holy ( Genesis 3:1-19).

d. Though Satan was cast to the Earth, he still has access to Heaven, even as he presented himself to God with the other angels ( Job 1:6,7) to accuse Job (even as he does us: Revelation 12:10). Satan is not chained or confined to Hell now - he roams freely to deceive the nations ( Revelation 20:3) & will make his final thrust through the coming Anti-Christ, the personification of Satan, just as King Tyrus was. But he will one day be locked up for good ( Revelation 20:7-10).

Job 1:6 - Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Isaiah 14:12-15 - How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Ezekiel 28:14 - Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Ezekiel 28:15 - Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Ezekiel 28:16 - By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

Luke 10:18 - And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Revelation 12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

John 8:44 - Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Hebrews 2:14 - Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of DEATH, that is, the devil;

LEGALLY, because Jesus (2nd Adam) WON back the Authority FROM SATAN that First Adam lost in the Garden of Eden.

Jesus, by the Holy Spirit, was conceived becoming the SON OF MAN. All God, all HUMAN.

Satan and Demons are NOT HUMAN. They borrow bodies: dogs, frogs and witches who lend their bodies.

CAREFULLY READ EPHESIANS 6

chapter 13 and 14 are (by design and foreknowledge) narratives of what has been happening in the US for many decades and what is about to come upon the luciferian cabul that released the pandemic, locked the nations down, silenced and handcuffed the church, and looted the nation through the manipulation of the crises they created.

In 2022 look for NUREMBERG like military tribunals.

And that president #45that all you mainline-denominational-world-aligned religious' leaders hate -

yes, that president #45, is the modern day CYRUS of ch 45 and he will be back in charge before 2024 to complete the draining of the swamp.

Roy!

My understanding is we were all under that Adamic curse.

The scripture doesn't label people by color as we do today, Isaiah 14:2 speaks of future that Has Not been fulfilled yet!!

You let this guy uncover you!

I think he's wrong in is beliefs and so are you!!

Are you saying that Jesus was black? Ham was the father of blacks, and was not Semitic. That is the curse blacks bear, not something bestowed upon Israelites.

For one thing, when Jesus comes back he will be transfigured Jesus, full of brightness, neither white nor black. If He returned as He was in life, He'd look the same as the Arabs, His cousins.

I have soundly refuted such claims through scripture as opportunistic taint. It appears similar in text, but it's not prophesy for blacks as they have their own Ham/Cannan curse. Isaiah 14:2 sees the house of Israel (US/UK) holding blacks slaves as they once held Israel captive 400 years in Egypt.

Blacks carry the curse of Ham (was the father of black people)/Cannan. Gen 9:25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. 26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. 27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Solomon wrote about an Ethiopian queen, which is poorly misrepresented as something it's not.

If all you have is Deuteronomy 28, and famous black people saying they are Jews for popular reasons, that will not fly. It stands that you can take scripture and twist it to your liking, and believe a falsehood.

Hi Loretta.

You are correct, God knows all things. He even knew Satan would fall and deceive man.

Knowing this you know about as much as everybody. So with that being said I will give you my answer which would sound a lot like sister Dianne's and brother Earls, but I will say it in three word! I DONT KNOW. There is nothing given in scripture on this matter.

Another question is could creating Lucifer the way he did and knowing he would fall be a part of Gods redemption plan? Who knows?

Another question and this one might a little easier to answer, If God never created Satan and would have just created Satan would man have turned out rebellious and evil? Perhaps so. We know during the millennium Satan will be chained a thousand years and man will be under the reign of Christ and there will still be death and sin. After the Devil is loosed again he will deceive the nations again. With that being said, why did God create a rebellious man?

Now we come to part of Brother Earl's answer.

Romans 9:20-23. Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

"Perhaps this can apply to Lucifer as well."

Here's a side note on Satan. He was created perfect. Ezekiel 28:15.

He fell because of pride. Ezekiel 28:17. and this caused him to want to be like the most high! Isaiah 14:12-14.

He was created perfect and by this he wanted to be worshiped.

Is not that what he ask the Lord Jesus to do in Mathew 4:9. This is also one of mans biggest problems as well, desiring praise and glory for ourselves.

God bless.

In order to truly see God, you have to stay in NOTHING else but the Bible; the Word of God. Jesus said, I and My Father are One and the same. The Holy Spirit, is the Spirit of Christ.

As one who was delivered from evil I had done; That Person died. I woke up a brand new child of the Living God. The old person passed away. I put my life into Gods hands. I Choose to Follow Jesus and the Bible every day.

IT TOOK ME AN ENTIRE DAY TO RID MY HOME OF ALL OCCULT MATERIAL. Worth thousands of dollars and I burned all of it. I stirred it and made sure it was destroyed. I dedicated the act to God. "I do this for You. I worship You. I choose You, to be my Father." Acts 19:19. The Holy Spirit undertook my babyhood in Jesus. He has been my only TEACHER. My Comforter. My Beloved.

You cannot STRADDLE THE FENCE, between loving Jesus, and loving the World. To even read books of things that were mentioned in this comment room today; is an ABOMINATION.

You must CHOOSE today whom you will serve. You cannot have Both. Do you want to see God? Read Isaiah 6: 1-9

I will not read mans writings of satan and his numerous lies, deceptions, false religions, books people wrote in order to enrich their bank accounts. Book of Enoch is NOT in the Bible!

If you want to know about Satan and his demons, principalities and powers: memorize Isaiah 14. Count how many times Satan boasts, I WILL...

What does Satan look like? Isaiah 14:11

He will steal and pollute your mind, seduce you with lies. Before you know your house will be covered in occult books (which are inhabited by demons)..and the Bible will be covered in Dust.

There is no glory in being an expert on demonology. In cursing innocent children's walk with God; You fall from heaven like Lucifer did. There was no ceremony. Michael the archangel hurled Satan to the earth like a sack of potatoes; and the demons followed in like manner.

Buy this: JESUS WINS THE BATTLE.

Revelation 22:12-16

Mishael

I am not bragging! When I say that for 30 years Satan and his goons (demons) have tried to frighten and kill me. I got mad and read everything available to fight back. Actually I found the answer in the Bible. It's when Jesus was on that 40 day fast. EVERY TIME SATAN TEMPTED JESUS, Jesus returned that assault WITH THE RIGHT SCRIPTURE. He defeated Satan on every assault. He didn't get upset, scream or call out the angels. He SPOKE THE WORD OF GOD.

That told me right there, I needed to load up on scriptures that would answer and defeat every demonic attack. If our loved ones get sick or any other reason, our ARSENAL OF SCRIPTURE will defeat the Enemy.

We need to be 100% convinced that what comes out of our mouth is STRONG ENOUGH to defeat Satan. Satan thinks we are brain damaged and that he can use the same weapons every time and that it will work again. He needs to get hit with the WORD OF GOD IN OUR HEARTS AND MOUTH.

"He sent His Word and healed them". There is NO condemnation to those who are IN CHRIST JESUS." Satan tries to convince us that we are dirty with sin, but we are covered in the Holy Blood of Jesus! Isaiah 1:18; 43:25. In Jesus, we are not guilty.

The SEARCH ENGINE on this website will find numerous scriptures on just the word, HEAL, HEALED, DELIVERED. All we have to do is memorize that verse and add it to our arsenal for Prayer, Intercession, watchtower duties, standing in the gap, building up hedges of protection.

Jesus Provides us WITH HIS PERSONAL ARMOR. Ephesians 6. Just like David and Jonathan did; they swapped armor in their covenant. Jesus took our weaknesses, sin, plastic swords and GAVE US HIS ARMOR. I'd rather go into spiritual warfare with His armor any day. Isaiah 26:3

In Isaiah 14:11, 16-17 when people see Satan they're going to see short, covered in worms and say, " is this the man (he was created by God) that made the earth to tremble, the world a wilderness?

Fight back like Jesus did, with THE WORD IN YOU.

Dr. David Ward. Respectfully sir, It doesn't not matter how many degrees you have. The word of God is discerned by the Holy Spirit giving you wisdom as you are reading the word of God. Hell is a real literal place. For Example. Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

19There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

This is not a parable. Hell is a literal place of torment.

Revelation 20

12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The Bible only speaks of resurrected bodies. I've seen nothing about our will being changed.

The Christian's born again free will, should be...as Jesus said: to do the will of my Father.

Satans Boast: Observe how many times Lucifer aka Satan, says I WILL five times! He has a huge rebellion problem, desiring to be higher than God. Number 1, he is a created being. He creates chaos and destruction, but he cannot create man or anything else. Evil has damaged his brain.

He will be in hell, covered in worms; later to the Lake of Fire; never to get out again.

Isaiah 14:12

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

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For thou hast said in thine heart, I WILL ascend into heaven, I WILL exalt my throne above the stars of God: I WILL sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

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I WILL ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL be like the most High.

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Yet thou (Satan) shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

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They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man (Satan) that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms?

This war in Heaven is told in Revelation 12. Start at verse 7-9. He was in charge of worship, and began to covet it for himself. He rebelled and deceived 1/3 of angels. Michael picks him up and hurls Lucifer to earth, with his demons.

Here's some testimony. For 3 years after I was saved, I was attacked viciously and often by invisible beings. Eyes Held down, couldn't speak or move. My spirit was screaming the blood of Jesus tho. One time my bed was raised off the floor 3' with me in it; again restrained. I plead the Blood. They almost broke my neck but an angel threw it in the yard outside and I heard loud body blows.

They just want to destroy us. Stop thinking Satan has been treated unfairly. Rather, see him covered in worms. I do.

Bill M,

The other "they" from a far away land, will place a bruise on "evil" Mystery Babylon and this Holy mountain will turn to stubble.

( Isaiah 14:5-8)

5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.

6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.

7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:

8 And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.

This is what I like to talk about, the events that bring us closer to the Lord, the events that won't be put off. Whoever that vile Mystery Babylon is, know that the US military will make quick work off them, cause we're exceptional, and God's on our side. Go God go!

Earl Bowman,

" Ezekiel 28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tarsus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart (prince of Tarsus) is lifted up, and thine (prince of Tarsus) heart is lifted up, an thou hast said, I am a God, and I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet that art a MAN, and not God, though thou (prince of Tarsus) Set thine heart AS THE heart of God.

ALL MEN have the same problem; they want to EXALT THEMSELVES ABOVE GOD.

ALL MEN START OUT AS (children of) SATAN."

Ezekiel 28:2 overshadows ( Isaiah 14:12-14) & ( 2 Thessalonians 2:4).

I like how the prophets intertwine and repeat messages; you will rarely see an error in their texts. The prophets are woefully underrated by the people, as the NT is their book of choice.

DIANNE



You made a wise comment about Lucifer in the Garden of Eden ( Isaiah 14:v.12-15) and according Ez.28:12 to 17.

Yes, you are right, the serpent description is a figure of speech for how sly he operates. I agree. You are correct.

Yes, Eve and Adam, or the Man and the Woman, both were in the garden of Eden. Surely, as you said, "Would Eve be so stupid to converse with a hideous beast or snake, not buying it." In fact was a Man, a Cherub, by analogy, a Man like the two angels which GOD sent to Sodoma and Gomorrah, never, but never, like a snake.

God bless

Hi Chris.

I believe the scripture actually says I will be ( LIKE ) the most high. here's scripture:

Isaiah 14:12-14. How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; "I WILL BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH."

Ezekiel 28:15. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

We often quote it as Satan wanted to be God or dethrone God. But there is a significant difference here that may be applicable for us today.

You see God shares his glory with NO creative being.

"" Isaiah 42:8. I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.""

"" Jeremiah 9:23. Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:""

2 Corinthians 10:17. But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

Considering Satans fall -

Here I believe we also should examine ourselves to see what's behind our Motives.

God bless.

Sacha,

Sweet Sweet Sacha,

Perhaps you see a reflection of yourself in what I am not.

Now i will take you deeper when prophets were taken in the spirit, and saw.

Will my Revelation 6:13-14 vision hold true, got a better one? Then you'll be obligated to listen to old Hurty. I can warn you of Revelation 6:12 earthquake, Revelation 18:6 (if it takes 4.5 bombs to destroy Mystery Babylon, the beast will use 9).

You read Isaiah, he describes Mystery Babylon America being overtaken: It's not too hard to see from descriptions who the rogue nation is from the iron and clay. What end-time nation continually causes war? The Arab world will celebrate at their fall. A whole new world is on the way, one that doesn't include America.

( Isaiah 14:6-8)

6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

What will Briton do when they see America (Mystery Babylon) smoking from afar at the day of the Lord? In darkness, you will clothe yourselves in trembling.

( Ezekiel 26:16-18)

16 Then all the princes of the sea shall come down from their thrones, and lay away their robes, and put off their broidered garments: they shall clothe themselves with trembling; they shall sit upon the ground, and shall tremble at every moment, and be astonished at thee.

17 And they shall take up a lamentation for thee, and say to thee, How art thou destroyed, that wast inhabited of seafaring men, the renowned city, which wast strong in the sea, she and her inhabitants, which cause their terror to be on all that haunt it!

18 Now shall the isles tremble in the day of thy fall; yea, the isles that are in the sea shall be troubled at thy departure.