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I hear you.
I am as worried as you are.
That stuff is real and coming soon.
Keep the Faith.
Pray a lot.
Vote.
He was rejected.
Remember Lot's Wife.
By love.
I like chili cheese fritoes
Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
2nd witness of Jesus in Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Jews are going to worship at the feet of Christians.
Did you know the Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL?
Jeremiah 3:8 "And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also."
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
How can anyone tell me that those who have the wrath of God against them for rejecting the Son is the "chosen people"
King James Bible Jesus speaks to some of the Jews in John 10:23 - 29:And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. Then came the JEWS (THE JEWS) round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
"But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you."
But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Looks to me that those who hear the voice of Jesus are true sheep or the chosen people.
Just cause someone claims to be a jew does not make it so and the middle east is full of them.
1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 - For ye, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their OWN PROPHETS, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
Our job is to love and teach, not judge.
The disdain you have for our brothers (the Jews) is palpable.
If the Jews are cursed, what do we do with Acts 28:26-28?
Do we believe what Luke says?
Last I checked, those that killed the prophets "SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT, BUT ARE THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN" ( Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9).
"SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT"
"SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT"
Do we believe the words of John?
People can say they believe in anything they want. Show me your works and I will see your faith!
The JEWISH high priest appointed by the Roman Governor that condemned Jesus was "of the synagogue of Satan," not a Jew.
You say "ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist;" again, I would refer you to ( Acts 28:26-28).
What about Muslims, Hindus, etc.? They deny God AND Jesus.
Jews follow God. Last I checked, that was Jesus' Father also.
As far as most of the Jews being from Eastern Europe and Russia, I am not sure the point you are trying to make.
Most of us don't know our ancestry more than a few generations.
How do you really know your ancestors aren't from Europe or Russia; and could have even been Jewish!
Just compare your life today to those first days when you first asked Jesus to come in your heart. You read your Bible. You asked the Holy Spirit to help you understand what you have read. He's your Teacher, and the Spirit of Jesus; your Comforter; your Convictor when you make mistakes, your Helper. He's here for you.
Just pray this prayer to return to your first Love:
Lord, after what I've read today, I don't want to allow any spirit of compromise in my life! I now understand that the doctrine of the Nicolaitans is compromise with the world. Lord, I don't want to live with one foot in the church and another foot in the world. I want to break free completely from the world and its influence so I can give myself completely to Your cause! I want to be holy, to live in a way that pleases You, and to experience Your power in my life.
Today I am renewing my commitment to You all over again! I turn from the world, and I am running to You! I will follow you.
I pray this in Jesus' name!
Just compare your life today to those first days when you first asked Jesus to come in your heart. You read your Bible. You asked the Holy Spirit to help you understand what you have read. He's your Teacher, and the Spirit of Jesus; your Comforter; your Convictor when you make mistakes, your Helper. He's here for you.
Just pray this prayer to return to your first Love:
Lord, after what I've read today, I don't want to allow any spirit of compromise in my life! I now understand that the doctrine of the Nicolaitans is compromise with the world. Lord, I don't want to live with one foot in the church and another foot in the world. I want to break free completely from the world and its influence so I can give myself completely to Your cause! I want to be holy, to live in a way that pleases You, and to experience Your power in my life.
Today I am renewing my commitment to You all over again! I turn from the world, and I am running to You! I will follow you.
I pray this in Jesus' name!
So, these portions of Scripture tell us how Christians are to behave or respond when trouble comes our way. However, we should do all in our power to protect ourselves, our children & our property from wicked perpetrators. But what the Bible teaches is that we must not go on the attack, or repay evil with evil, or in any way do what Christ would not do. The only ones empowered by God to pronounce judgement & give out a penalty is the government. Often even they don't administer it correctly, but that is another matter.
Maybe your question is: "then how can we protect ourselves?" Are we talking about the authorities under instruction from an anti-Christian govt. coming to take you & your children because of your faith? Then I doubt neither you nor I could do much at all given their position & strength. We need to submit & trust God for the outcome. Or else, what would be your plans to oppose them? Using a gun? How far would that get you against the police or army?
But if you're thinking of a criminal breaking into your house or accosting you on the street, then you are authorized by law to protect yourself, but restricted by the amount of force used. Then again, how does one know what crime is intended to be committed? Does any of this help you, or have I missed your point?
then they would cease to be a Jew and be a Christian.
But the Noahide laws only exists in the minds of Rabbis.
The Noahide laws are not in the Bible and yes I agree with you that I do not like the Kabbalah "Jews" who
interpret these so called non biblical laws.
Look into Kabbalah, the soul of Judaism and see what most believe who claim to be "Jews"
it matches the synagogue of satan description of Jesus in Revelation 2:9 exactly.
Again, it seems that you may be confusing "Jews" with children of the Devil.
As YOU state.... These people CLAIM CLAIM CLAIM to be Jews. They are LYING LYING LYING.
The words you quote concerning Jews are those CLAIMING, CLAIMING, CLAIMING, to be Jews.
What does Jesus say concerning those CLAIMING CLAIMING CLAIMING to be Jews? THEY ARE LYING. They are of the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN ( Revelation 2:9, 3:9). No longer Jews; and may never had been.
What is their fruit? People are judged by words and actions.
A Christian that stops believing in Jesus is no longer a Christian.
People of any descent or country origin can live in the land of Judea and be called an inhabitant of the land of Judea; a Jew.
Just as a person of any descent or country origin living in the land of New York can be called a New Yorker.
Most God fearing Jews consider Jesus to at the very least be a great prophet. They do not dismiss the writings of the NT as "the most evil and antisemitic book ever written, and Jesus the most evil of them all." Those are words that sound like they would come from the mouth of a child of Satan.
I find no issue with the 7 Noahide general laws.
The seven Noahide laws as traditionally enumerated are the following:
Not to worship idols.
Not to curse God.
To establish courts of justice.
Not to commit murder.
Not to commit adultery, bestiality, or sexual immorality.
Not to steal.
Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.
Do you have a problem with abiding by any of these laws?
I have issue with the interpretation of them by children of the synagogue of Satan that skews them.
Man screws everything up.
We DISCERN, we do not JUDGE.
Seems like some serious hostility toward our brothers the JEWS.
Did Jesus come back for the seed of Satan, or for the lost (looking to be found) Tribes of the house of Israel?
Plenty of people that call themselves Jews are not ( Revelation 2:9, 3:9). Just as many today that call themselves Christian are not.
Devout Jews believe in God OUR Father. Others are whatever they claim to be. An "unbelieving Jew" is called a Gentile; just as an unbelieving Christian is called a Gentile.
The "Jews" that crucified Jesus CLAIMED to be Jews, as the High Priest was the leader of them. But their actions spoke of them that are of the synagogue of Satan.
The Apostles were of the house of Israel (Jews); otherwise they would not have been chosen.
Were not the JEWS PURPOSELY BLINDED BY GOD until the return of Jesus? ( Acts 28:25-28)
Did God not say that He would restore His people; the JEWS? ( Romans 11:26) The Deliverer (Jesus) will turn ungodliness from Jacob (ALL 12 TRIBES)
Are we not grafted into THEIR tree? ( Romans 11:17-24)
Our brothers need our spiritual guidance, not our disdain ( Galatians 3:29).
In addition, I do not believe that Jesus the King of the JEWS came speaking Greek. He spoke it when needed.
Those that were with Jesus at the cross at the 9th hour knew the Hebrew words being spoken ( Matthew 27:46-47, Mark 15:34-36).
The inscription left by Pilate was written FIRST in Hebrew.
Hebrew is the language given by God to His chosen people.
Hebrew is the only language that is both pictorial and phonetic, as well as having it's number system based upon it.
The Hebrew letters form the words our Creator spoke when forming the world.
Jesus is the Aleph and the Tav; not the Alpha and the Omega. Jesus is every word of Scripture. That ultimately is Hebrew, and not any other language.
Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
So do these get saved without Jesus?
John in John 3:36 - He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Jesus in Revelation 3:9 - Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, and I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Q: Is there another plan of salvation for unbelieving Jews?
A: Acts 4:12 - Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (What name? Yeshua?)
1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
Ezra 9:1 - Now when these things were done, the princes came to me, saying, The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites.
Ezra 9:2 - For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the HOLY SEED holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of those lands:
Murray Redstone does not sound Jewish either until you find his birth name was Rothstein oh his family runs CBS.
Communist leader Lenin real name was Ulanov.
Communist leader Lev Bronstein called himself Trotsky.
The founder of the church of Satan called himself Anton LaVey, some claim Howard Stanton, but his birth name was
really Levy.
Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Leonard Nimoy, Wiliam Shatner, Woody Allen does not sound jewish either.
All I know is if they do not follow Jesus they are cursed as Paul said.
1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
So is Jesus cursed for saying this? I do not believe so. Some claim Jesus is antisemitic.
Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son
(ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.)
1 John 2:23 - Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah?
1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?
King James Bible book of John 5:16 - And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 - Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7:1 - After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 - For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
Jesus speaking to the Pharisee Jews - Bible book of John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
48 Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
pretty obvious who Jesus called of their father the DEVIL.
This understanding of Kabbalah gives new meaning to this: Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
I live in South Florida with the 3rd largest concentration of Jews in the USA. When I came to the Lord in late 89 I decided I wanted to study the old testament and decided to study from the Jewish perspective, after all it is supposed to be their book right? Why study the OT from Lutherans, Baptists or charismatics?
Anyways I went to the library and started reading Jewish literature and came across this stuff and I could hardly believe it. So how come messianic Jews do not come out and expose and denounce this? They know what it is as they use the symbols and words associated with this.
Those who claim to be Noahides (laws given to Noah not in the Bible) are from this same group. This is the group pushing YESHUA as the name of our savior Jesus. These groups claim Christ was a master of kabbalah and this is how he performed his miracles, the unpardonable sin in my opinion.
One last thing and the highest symbol in the Kabbalah system is proudly displayed on the Israeli flag. Present this info to your church and do not be shocked when you are told to leave.
PS I came out of the new age baby occult filth so I knew what this evil was. Praise the Lord my private Baptist Bible school teaching in middle school kicked in when I saw this vile evil. Look into the Noahide laws and their penalty.
Just compare your life today to those first days when you asked Jesus to come in your heart. You read your Bible. You asked the Holy Spirit to help you understand what you have read. He's your Teacher, and the Spirit of Jesus; your Comforter; your Convictor when you make mistakes, your Helper. He's here for you.
Just pray this prayer to return to your first Love:
Lord, after what I've read today, I don't want to allow any spirit of compromise in my life! I now understand that the doctrine of the Nicolaitans is compromise with the world. Lord, I don't want to live with one foot in the church and another foot in the world. I want to break free completely from the world and its influence so I can give myself completely to Your cause! I want to be holy, to live in a way that pleases You, and to experience Your power in my life. Today I am renewing my commitment to You all over again! I turn from the world, and I am running to You!
I pray this in Jesus' name!
Lord, after what I've read today, I don't want to allow any spirit of compromise in my life! I now understand that the doctrine of the Nicolaitans is compromise with the world. Lord, I don't want to live with one foot in the church and another foot in the world. I want to break free completely from the world and its influence so I can give myself completely to Your cause! I want to be holy, to live in a way that pleases You, and to experience Your power in my life. Today I am renewing my commitment to You all over again! I turn from the world, and I am running to You!
I pray this in Jesus' name!