How's your Father? Glad he's in a safe place. His needs are bring met. That he has you to keep up with him. God bless and keep you strong
in the Lord. Thank God you are not named among these generations.
11There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother. 12There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness. 13There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up. 14There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.
Your post brought out some important points.
Kindness, love and compassion leads us to dwell more on justification and redemption and less on Rites and Judging.
Deuteronomy 4:2: "You shall not add to the word that I am commanding you, nor take away from it, so that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God that I am giving you."
Proverbs 30:5-6: "Every word of God is flawless; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. Do not add to His words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar."
Revelation 22:18-19: "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll."
These verses serve as a safeguard against human interference that could distort divine truth. They underscore the importance of preserving the integrity of God's Word and the consequences of tampering with its messages.
11There is a generation of those who curse their fathers
and do not bless their mothers.
12There is a generation of those who are pure in their own eyes
and yet unwashed of their filth.
13There is a generation-how haughty are their eyes
and pretentious are their glances-
14there is a generation whose teeth are swords
and whose jaws are knives,
devouring the oppressed from the earth
and the needy from among men.
Pretty fair summation of today; I would say.
I have spent a fair amount of time recently in discussing judgment in the house of God; not so much in general of those who are unbelievers. OF couse we have to stop and think about behaviors that are uncomely to God's people. James 3:10 states:
Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be. The world holds the church up to the standard it professes; while the world is expected; more or less to behave badly. Such an assumption is naive at best; and can keep us from reaching very kind individuals assuming they aren't in spiritual danger and focus on opposition with this logic.
More precisely; it is the master who is the conductor of our lives and as Jesus stated we cannot serve two masters. Jesus Himself said "forgive them because they know not what they're doing" in Luke 23:34 as well as Acts 7:60 when Stephen was being stoned after his heavenly vision of Christ standing on the throne. It may well have been a reminder from Christ Himself as his spirit departed to do the same. At any rate; the world is under bondage from the enemy but a truly saved individual isn't. Despite this; of course the enemy will try to accuse and convince someone that they are useless for the Lord and indeed if there is a stronghold of sin it is sufficient for him to maintain; with glee no doubt whatever power the particular minion has over a person.
So unconditional love helps us to overcome evil with good ( Romans 12:21). Otherwise we're toast.
Revelation 9:10 - And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
The descriptions alone tell us that these are not normal locusts. Satan is over them. These are demonic like creatures.
Revelation 9:11 - And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
They had a king over them. If you ever done a study on locusts, you know that locusts do not have a king. They go in groups. Proverbs 30:27 tells us that the locusts do not have a king. But these had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is ABADDON, the destroyer. But in the Greek tongue, his name is APOLLYON, same definition, destroyer.
He is the destroyer, just as Jesus described him in John Chapter 8. He is a murderer. He is a liar. He is the destroyer. These are demonic creatures. 2 Peter 2:4 tells us that there are demons in chains reserved for judgment that are kept down into the heart of the earth. The one usage at that time in 2 Peter 2:4 was TARTARUS. And that's the special pit for demonic forces.
Revelation 9:13 - And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
Remember horns, I had mentioned that from the book of Daniel, horns are a symbol of authority. The four horns is complete authority over the four corners of the earth. It is on the altar of God which is in heaven.
Revelation 9:16 - And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand:
That's a bad English way of using the largest number in the Greek language, and it adds up to two-hundred million.
I suppose these men should take heed, but, if you don't know God then why would they care. The LORD our God had said three times, not add to the word that I command you nor shall you diminish from it.
Deuteronomy 4:2Proverbs 30:6Revelation 22:18
So thank you all who have participated in this discussion. It has somewhat answered my original question of the use of parentheses in our KJV.
My conclusion thus far is that the parentheses were added into the translation to somewhat denote as a commentary by the translators that this section of scripture that was written by the original author is merely a thought added to the original thought.
And in another case; maybe that some of the original words were not Holy Spirit inspired such as in Romans 3:5.
I was so blessed to have chosen the KJV to read when I wanted to know the truth. It was after reading this Holy Scripture that I was completely convinced of our Lord and Saviour Christ Jesus.
And in my study, so far, to compare the KJV and the modern bibles, it is apparent that so much, faithfully, spiritually, and hope and love is lost in the modern bibles. Today it is extremely difficult to find a church that uses the KJV.
We want to save Mormons, JW's and Muslims, I think we need to save modern bible users as well from their lack of understanding.
Again thank you all who participated in this discussion, as we worship in spirit and in truth.
Hello sir, from your words it sounds like you already decided what you believe before you look into it. You say interpreters added their own thoughts in italics and I wonder where does such an assumption come from? Sometimes articles like "the" or "a" are needed to complete the translation and they indicate that with brackets or italics. The fact that its being presented in the first place shows more transparency. Other Bibles don't indicate that. There is no word-for-word language translation, you end up missing words and would be incomplete and grammatically incorrect sentences. You can even do a Google Translate of basic words and you might input 4 words and get 3 words back, or vice versa. It doesn't mean there's a grand conspiracy to deceive you and it doesn't mean the devil is behind it. I would suggest studying any foreign language and you will learn more about how translations occur. I looked at the FAQ and saw this below. You can see in the examples "that" was used to complete the translation which is just following English rules, or "it was". I don't think the devil is behind a big conspiracy to make it grammatically correct and clear to readers. The fact that the translators were this transparent shows how careful and forthcoming they were. Also, all of this can be checked anytime against the original Greek/Hebrew so its not like anyone is able to get away with sneaking extra words in.
Q: What do the words in italics or [brackets] mean?
A: These are words the translators added from the Hebrew and Greek to make the English complete. It is also seen in italics in some Bibles.
Examples:
Genesis 1:10
And God called the dry [land] Earth; and the gathering together of
the waters called he Seas: and God saw that [it was] good.
Proverbs 30:11
[There is] a generation [that] curseth their father, and doth not bless
their mother.
Romans 6:5
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall
Which Bible translation is the Holiest one ? This question will definitely offend others. My advice is, choose a Bible that glorifies Jesus Christ the most.
The translation Bible should be as pure as possible to the original.
Psalm 12:6
Thewordsof theLordarepurewords: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
God's Word is pure.
Proverbs 30:5
EverywordofGodis pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
God's Word will never pass away.
Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
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Every time we read the Bible, just think that Jesus Christ wrote it.
Hebrews 12:2
Looking unto Jesus theauthorand finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Proverbs 29:7 The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern. I ask in Jesus name as His ministry was about us disadvantaged and saved the needy from those too powerful for them.
I am a divorced homeless woman without an income cause Iost my job and had to move to where I could find shelter. I ask Jesus to install in people a heart of compassion and not judging and to rebuke rich people who are selfish and live for their own pleasure and look with disdain on us struggling. Restore our dignity and according to Proverbs 30:8-9 give me neither poverty nor riches so I do not deny God nor resort to stealing and insult my God. Please pray for me in Jesus name
Lord Jesus thank you for your grace and mercy. Forgive our many sins. Please Lord we need encouragement and strength. Please fight our battles for us, strongly protect us and grant full deliverance, healing and most importantly salvation (for those not saved). Touch us with your Holy Spirit. The enemy is attacking constantly but I stand on Proverbs 30:5. Lord what I pray for us do also for all others in need. Bring many into the fold and use us to spread the fragrance of the knowledge of you. Thank you Lord Jesus. I pray in your holy name. Amen
Momsage great post! I don't get on here very much anymore but it seems that you fit right in on this site.
The KJB truly is the pure Words of the Lord, the (Spirit of truth) is the KJB! All those who trust modern version bibles are putting their trust in doctrines of devils ( 1 Tim 4:1) and deceiving themselves and others ( 2 Tim 4:3-4)
The Comforter IS the Holy Ghost ( Jn 14:26) This verse tells us that the "Comforter" WHICH IS the "Holy Ghost" will teach us all things "he shall teach you all things".
Now in ( Jn 16:13-15) This verse tells us "when the "Spirit of truth" is come, he will (guide) you into all truth"
The word (guide) is #3594; and it means to show the way.
The Spirit of truth will show the way to all truth, the KJB is that Spirit of truth! The Comforter, which IS the Holy Ghost, will teach us all things from the Spirit of truth.
The Comforter, which IS the Holy Ghost is joined with the Spirit of truth. ( Jn 14:16-17) v16 tells us "and he shall give you another "Comforter" that he may abide with you for ever". v17 tells us "(Even) the "Spirit of truth" whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you". The word (Even) is #2531; it means just (or inasmuch) as, according to, with which it is joined.
WITH WHICH IT IS JOINED? WOW!
The Comforter, which IS the Holy Ghost IS joined with the Spirit of truth.
The Holy Ghost, which is the Comforter IS joined with the Spirit of truth, which IS the King James Bible!
The KJB is the pure Words of the LORD ( Proverbs 30:5-6) and ( Ps 12:6-7)
All modern version bibles are words of men who (changed) the words of the living God to deceive, ( Jer 23:36) The word (perverted) is #2015; it means to turn about or over, to change. modern version bibles DONOT have the Holy Ghost joined with them! Those who are using modern versions cannot find this truth!
( Jer 23:36) perverted is #2015; it means "to change".
( Ps 12:6-7) 6) "The words of the LORD are pure words" pure is #2889; it means unadulterated, uncontaminated, sound.
7) "Thou shalt keep them O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever". preserve is #5341, it means to guard, to protect, maintain, obey.
( John 14:23-24) "If a man love me, he will ((keep my words)) and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him".
This verse is telling us if we don't keep His words the Father and Jesus will not come unto us and abode with us.
Many on this site do not keep His words.
His words are pure words preserved for ever in the King James Bible, ((FOR EVER))
They are not preserved only in the manuscripts, ( 2 Tim 2:15) tells us "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth". We are told to study, and rightly divide the word of truth.
Can we study and rightly divide the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts today? No we can not!
His words are pure ( Proverbs 30:5) His words are Alive ( Heb 4:12) His words are Inspired ( 2 Tim 3:16) which is God breathed ( 2 Pet 1:19-21) His words are sound doctrine, His words are not perverted.
Modern versions are perverted words of men ( Jer 23:36) they have all "changed" the words of the living God!
It is very important to see this Truth, modern versions are doctrines of devils ( 1 Tim 4:1)
Modern versions are not sound doctrine ( 2 Tim 4:3-4)
I pray this is helpful to any who trust modern version bibles.
It's really simple One eighty, do you Believe the Word of God?
God promised He would preserve His Word in ( Ps 12:6-7) The Word of God is Truth, God preserved His Word in 1611 in the KJB.
The words of the LORD are pure words.
Every word of God is pure ( Proverbs 30:5-6) (EVERY) WORD, (EVERY) WORD of God is pure.
In ( John 14:23) Jesus said "If a man love me, ((he will keep my words)); and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him".
There a condition with Jesus and the Father coming unto a person and making their abode with him, what is it? ((he will keep my words))
Keep His words.
Then if we look at the other side of it.
( Jer 23:36) Tells us "for ye have (perverted) the words of the living God" (perverted) is #2015; it means to change.
All the modern version bibles have changed the words of the living God!
( Jer 23) is prophecy for today about pastors that feed God's people ( Jer 23:1-2) and scatter His flock.
What do pastors feed Gods people? The Word of God!
Then we see ( 2 Tim 4:3-4) Where is the doctrine at today that's not sound doctrine?
Those who do not endure sound doctrine are those who choose the bibles that (change) or pervert their words, turning from the truth.
So there would be (perverted) scripture meaning (to change) the words, these would not be sound doctrine, this is also all modern version bibles. Then we see ( 2 Tim 3:16) "scripture that is inspired by God", the KJB.
One eighty thank you for your comment, I really appreciate your kind words of encouragement.
The words of the LORD are pure words. ( Ps 12:6-7) (pure) is #2889; it means sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.
Every word of God is pure ( Proverbs 30:5-6) (Every) is #3605; it means the whole, all, any or every.
For the word of God is (quick) and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword ( Hebrews 4:12) (quick) #2198 it means to live, alive. The word of God is Alive, the word of God is not confusion!
God is not the author of confusion ( 1 Cor 14:33) (confusion) is #181; it means instability, i.e. disorder, inconstant, unstable.
All these different modern version bibles that change words and completely leave out whole verses are instability, disorder, they are inconstant, they are unstable! Many have changed their own words several different times! ( 1 Cor 1:10) Telle us "that we all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among us, but that we be perfectly joined together in the same mind"..
( Jer 23:36) "for ye have (perverted) the words of the living God" (perverted) is #2015; it means to change.
The words of the LORD are pure words, (pure) #2889; sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.
It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by ((every word)) that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. ( Mt 4:4)
EVERY WORD!
"For we are not as many, which (corrupt) the word of God".. ( 2 Cor 2:17) (corrupt) is #2585; it means to retail, (to adulterate).
This is doctrine that's not sound doctrine, but it is instability, inconstant, and unstable! ( 2 Tim 4:3-4) IT IS CORRUPT!
Remember the words of the LORD are pure words, they are sound, (unadulterated), uncontaminated.
One eighty look up ( Ps 12:7) in your Niv bible and compare it with the KJB.
Also compare ( Mark 11:26) and ( Eph 3:9) in your Niv with the KJB.
And here's a really big one to compare ( Col 1:14)
This is the definition of (perverted), #2015 it means to change.
The words, scripture, prophecy, and a book all = The KJB.
( Ps 12:6) The (words) of the LORD are pure (words)..
(words) is #565; it means commandment, something said.
( Proverbs 30:6) Add thou not unto his (words) lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(words) in this verse is #1697; it means a book, chronicles, commandment, commune (-cation) promise, saying, sentence, (concerning) thought. (The words we are told not to add unto are in (a book)
( Isa 34:16) Seek ye out of the (book) of the LORD, and read,..
(book) is #5612; it means writing (the art or a document) by implying a book, evidence, learn (-ed) (-ing) letter.
( 2 Tim 3:16) All (scripture) is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
(scripture) is #1124; it means a document, i.e. holy Writ (or its contents or a statement in it) to grave. to write, to describe.
( 2 Pet 1:20-21) The word (scripture) has the same meaning as above #1124, a document, holy Writ.
(prophecy) is #4394; it means prediction (scriptural or other) a foreteller, an inspired speaker.
( Rev 1:2-3) v2 Who bare record of the (word of God) and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. v3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear (the words) (of this prophecy) and keep those things (which are written) therein: for the time is at hand.
( Rev 22:18-19) v18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the ((words of the prophecy of this book)), If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. v19 And if any man shall take away from the ((words of the book of this prophecy)), God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
( Ps 12:6-7) v7 Thou shalt keep them O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
(preserve) is #5341; it means to guard, to protect, maintain, obey.
Biblical Proof modern version bibles are not Inspired by God, but very deceptive!
( 2 Tim 3:16) "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness". ALL ((TRUE)) scripture is given by Inspiration of God. Inspiration is #2315; it means divinely breathed in. All True scripture is God breathed.
The KJB says in ( Jn 7:8) "Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up ((yet)) unto this feast; for my time is not full come".
In the KJB Jesus said "I go not up yet"
The Nasb bible says "I am not going up to this feast".
The Niv bible says "I am not going up to this festival".
The Nlt bible says "I'm not going to this festival".
The Esv bible says "I am not going up to this feast".
The Gnt bible says "I am not going to this festival".
In all these versions in v10 Jesus goes to the feast.
All modern version bibles say the same thing, Jesus said "I am not going" Then In v10 Jesus went to the feast!
All modern version bibles have (changed the words) and are saying Jesus lied!! ( Jer 23:36) The word (perverted) is #2015; it means to turn about or over, by implying (to change), pervert. They change or pervert the words of the living God and they show Jesus to be a liar!
Would that be God breathed?
Or would that be ( 1 Tim 4:1) .."doctrines of devils"?
( 2 Tim 3:16) Would saying Jesus is a liar be "profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"?
( Mt 4:4) .. "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by (every word) that proceedeth out of the mouth of God".
EVERY WORD! (KJB Jn 7:8) "I go not up (yet)" EVERY WORD!
The words of the LORD are pure words ( Ps 12:6-7) v7 preserved for ever.
( Proverbs 30:5-6) v5 "(Every word) of God is pure" v6 "Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar".
The KJB is the scripture that's given by Inspiration of God, the pure words preserved from this generation for ever.
The (Holy Ghost) first shows up in the Bible in the New Testament.
( Jn 14:26) "But the Comforter, (which is the Holy Ghost), whom the Father will send ((the Father WILL send, this is future)) in my name, he shall teach you all things, ((he SHALL teach you all things, also future tense)) and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John said the Father (will send) the Holy Ghost.
( 1 Cor 2:12-13) v13 "Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
(teacheth) is #1318; it means instructed or objectively communicated by teaching, taught.
(Holy) is #40; it means sacred, (physically pure, morally blameless or religious, consecrated) (most) holy (one, thing) clean, innocent, PERFECT, pure.
(Ghost) is #4151; it means a current of air i.e. breath, a spirit, (superhuman) an angel, or (divine) God, Christ's spirit, the Holy Ghost, spirit (-ual, _ually).
The Holy Ghost instructed or communicated by teaching.
( 2 Pet 1:20-21) v20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
v21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost instructed or communicated by teaching.
This is speaking of the prophecy that we have today which came to us not by the will of man in 1611, but by the teaching of the Holy Ghost which compares spiritual things with spiritual, instructing He communicates and teaches you all things. That's why the KJB is the pure, preserved words of the LORD, ( Ps 12:6-7) The Words of the LORD are Perfect, Every word is pure ( Proverbs 30:5-6).
The holy men of God who were moved by the Holy Ghost (was) the translators of the KJB.
The numbers 77 or 777 or 77777 and all of them being connected to the words Jesus, Christ, Holy Spirit, LORD, or God, this is the LORD showing us who are alive today just how PERFECT HE MADE HIS WORD.
It only confirms the Words of the LORD are pure words! ( Ps 12:6-7) ( Proverbs 30:5-6) They are Perfect in 1 Bible ONLY!
The KJB!
Here's one example.
KJB ( Col 1:4) "In whom we have redemption through his blood"
The Nasb says "in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins"
The word (pure) is #2889; it means sound, clear, unadulterated, uncontaminated, innocent or holy.
Comparing the KJB and the Nasb.
KJB ( Col 1:14) "In whom we have redemption through his blood"'
The Nasb says "in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins"
Here the Nasb removes the blood of Jesus Christ!
KJB ( 2 Sam 21:19) Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite.
The Nasb says "Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite"
Here the Nasb says Elhanan killed Goliath, wouldn't that be adding to the Word? ( Prov 30:5-6) ( Rev 22:18-19)
KJB ( Jn 7:8) Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come.
The Nasb says "Go up to the feast yourselves; I am not going up to this feast, because my time is not yet fully arrived".
Jesus went to the feast so the Nasb is making Jesus look like He's a liar, but ( Proverbs 30:5-6)
KJB ( Jn 6:47) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life"
The Nasb says "Truly, truly, I say to you, the one who believes has eternal life"
The KJB is the Inspired Word of God! There are many verses where Jesus tells us we should keep His Words!
All modern versions fit perfectly with this verse ( Jer 23:36) The word (perverted) is #2015; it means to turn about or over, to change, overturn pervert, change. Someone is changing the words of the living God, that would be all modern version bibles.
( 1 Tim 4:1) In the (latter times which is our time now) many will give heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.
( 2 Tim 4:3-4) Do you not see that the Nasb is doctrine that's not sound? You could safely say its even anti-Jesus!
Modern versions are all the same, they are only words of men, these bibles are not Inspired by God!
( Ps 12:6-7) The words of the LORD are pure words.
( Proverbs 30:5-6) Every word of God is pure.
The word (pure) is #2889; it means pure (in a physical, chemical, ceremonial or moral sense) clean, sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated, innocent or holy.
( Deut 8:3) "that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by ((every word)) that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live".
( Mt 4:4) "But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by ((every word)) that proceedeth out of the mouth of God".
In ( Ps 138:2) "for thou hast magnified (THY WORD) above all thy name".
( Jn 14:23-24) v23 "If a man love me, ((he will keep)) ((my words)) and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him".
Today we are either a Bible Believer, or we are a Bible corrector.
Bible Believers believe that God preserved His Words perfectly, it is given by Inspiration of God!
Bible correctors believe that God preserved His Words in the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts but then He just leaves the largest population of people ever in the history of the world without His True Words to read and study for themselves! And that would mean He leaves those without His True Words in the Lastdays, the worse possible time ever where deception is everywhere.
Would God do that? NO God would not do that!
All modern versions are counterfeit Adam, they are (perverted), they change the Words of the living God. ( Jer 23:36) (perverted) is #2015; it means TO CHANGE.
God Bless you Adam, stay strong in your Faith in the True Word of God, the KJB.
You said "its silly to get caught up in which translation is the "true" translation, I will give everyone a different view; and I'll do that by asking a question". (YOU will give a different view by asking a question)? Where did we see that before?
The first question in the Bible was asked by the serpent ( Gen 3:1) "Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?" This question by the serpent was to cause the woman ((to doubt)) the True commandment of God. It was a lie from the Devil, and it worked!!
You also said "What is the holy bible but paper and ink"?
The Word of God says ( Ps 138:2) "for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name".
( 1 Pet 1:25) "But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is (the word) which (by the gospel ((is preached)) unto you)".
The word (gospel) is #2097; it means to announce good news ("evangelize") especially the gospel.
The word which by the gospel is preached unto us today, so we do have that TRUE gospel being preached from a book today.
( Proverbs 30:5-6) v5 "Every word of God is pure" v6 "Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar".
You are on the wrong side of the fence here Daruled, Your words are going against the Words of the Lord.
If you truly seek the Truth in this matter then find (Truth is Christ) on youtube and watch a video called, The Bible in our hand is the Twoedged SWORD of His MOUTH- Clear Evidence!
Please stop claiming the Word of God is only ink and paper, seek and Pray and you will find the Truth!
May God open your eyes to see that His pure Words are in the KJB.
( Jer 23:36) And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; FOR YE HAVE ((PERVERTED)) THE WORDS OF THE LIVING GOD, of the LORD of hosts our God.
The word (perverted) is #2015; it means TO CHANGE.
TO PERVERT the words of the living God, is to Change the word of God!
Modern versions pervert the words of the living God!
This is a tough verse to fully understand. First, in the context, of the conversation Jesus is having with Nicodemus it would seem that Jesus was telling him no man had ascended to heaven to get the knowledge of heavenly things and returned to teach it to men on earth, similar to Proverbs 30:4. So, no man is qualified to speak of them but He/Jesus who came down from heaven.
John 3:13 No man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
One thing that makes this difficult is the ending, it is like Jesus said this after He had ascended to heaven after His resurrection. "Which is in heaven" Some translations leave this ending out where it ends with man, which would involve other topics I will not add to this, hope this helps.
My prayer request is I hope that everybody had a good day at church that would be May 7th by the time you get to it'll be a couple days afterwards proverbs 30:30
The Words of the LORD! In ( Jer. 30:2) (The LORD told Jeremiah to "(Write) thee (all) the (words) that I have (spoken) unto thee in a (book)" The word (write) is #3789; it means to grave, by implying to write, inscribe, record. The word (all) is #3605; it means the whole, any or every, (all) manner (the) whole. The word (words) is #1697; it means a word, a matter (as spoken of), commandment, saying, sentence, arrange. The word (spoken) is #1696; it means properly to arrange, but used fig. (of words) talk, teach, tell. The word (book) is #5612; it means writing (the art or a document) by implying a book, evidence, learn. letter, register. ((What all this tells us is that God commanded that every single Word that He had spoken was to be recorded in a book)) If God considered His spoken Words to be that important in the Old Testament do you think His Words would be any less important in the New Testament? ( Ps. 12:6-7) v6 The word (pure) is #2889; it means pure, sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated (innocent or holy) (pronounce clean). In v7 the word (preserve) is #5341; it means to guard, (to protect) maintain, obey. The word (ever) is #5769; it means eternity, always, ancient (time) continuance, eternal, ever (-lasting) (with-out end) (These verses tell us that we will have God's pure, sound, unadulterated Words for all eternity) ( Proverbs 30:5-6) (Every) Word of God is pure. The word (Every) is #360; it means the whole, all, any or every, (all) manner, altogether, (the) whole. Jesus Christ ((was the Word)) in the New Testament in ( Jn. 1:1-3,14) v14 Tells us "And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us" (Do you think the Words of Jesus Christ who WAS THE WORD were important enough to be documented in a book for ever to fulfill God's promise from ( Ps. 12:6-7)? holy men of God were used to translate those pure, sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated Words, for ever in ( 2 Pet. 1:19-21) You cannot get this information from modern version bibles, just the KJB. Blessings.
Jesse I was not trying to trip you up, I promise you that Jesse. I just don't see a pre-tribulation rapture in Scripture and it seems like it changes with different people who believe in it. It's not consistent with all pre-trib believers, that says something in itself. You say "The beginning of the 7-year Tribulation begins at ( Mt. 24:4) I'm sorry but Jesus would say something about an event that is that important, there is absolutely nothing in that verse or the 3 verses before that shows anything or says anything about a rapture. And if we look at the next verse ( Mt. 24:5) We see "For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many". So do you believe that Jesus raptures the church and in the very next verse (many ((non-believers)) who were just left on the earth are going to be deceived by someone saying "I am Christ"?) Then if we look at ( Mt. 24:23-26) which is AFTER the great tribulation starts we are told AGAIN in ( Mt. 24:23) Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. (People at this point are still looking for Christ) ( Mt. 24:26) v26 they are still looking for Christ. 2 verses later in ( Mt. 24:29-31) This is Jesus Christ coming ((in the clouds)). You are saying Jesus comes in ( Mt. 24:4) where it says nothing about Jesus returning, and yet you doubt the Words of Jesus in ( Mt. 24:29-31) where Jesus very clearly tells us He will return ((in the clouds)) to gather together His elect. And in ( 1 Thess 4:16-17) The #1 pre-trib rapture verse tells us The Lord descends from heaven and we meet Jesus ((in the clouds)). We are told in ( Ps. 12:6-7) The words of the LORD are pure words. and in ( Proverbs 30:5-6) v5 ((Every)) word of God is pure. v6 "add thou not unto his words" There is not rapture in ( Mt. 24:4) You are believing something that's not written over the pure Words of the Lord Jesse. I'm truly not trying to offend you Jesse but you should see this is Truth. see p.2
Pierre1939 That mans Concordance interpretation as you call it, is the only way we can take any word out of the King James Bible and get the TRUE meaning of that word in the Original Languages of Hebrew, and Greek. The True meaning of the word not what we think the words mean. You are relying to much on your own interpretation of so many things, you have some truth mixed with many things that are not truth but twisted, it is confusion. The Word of God will speak for itself. You change many things in the Word to what you think it means. Sorry Pierre I really don't mean to offend you, but you are the one twisting Scripture and anyone reading these comments can see that. God is not the author of confusion Pierre, His Words are pure Words. ( Ps 12:6-7) ( Proverbs 30:5-6) The word (pure) is #2889; it means unadulterated, uncontaminated, sound. (How can you say anything is wrong with the TRUE meaning of the word (pure) in the Original Language?) If you believe God preserved His Word, then you should believe the Words of the LORD are (pure) Words! You are contaminating the True Words of the LORD. I honestly see no reason to continue a discussion with someone who thinks their words or interpretation of the Word is more important, or is more trustworthy or truthful than God's pure Words. Have a good day Pierre. Truth matters. Blessings.
Dorothy You shouldn't use any Bible except a King James Bible. There may be some on this site that will disagree with that but don't listen to them. The KJB is the True Preserved Word that God promised us in ( Ps 12:6-7) v6 Tells us The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified ((seven times)). (A time in the Bible is 7 years, so it was purified 7 years? The King James Bible took 7 years to finish its translation) Also we are told in ( Proverbs 30:5-6) Every Word of God is pure. And v6 says "Add thou not unto his words" We are told in ( Jeremiah 23:36) "ye have (perverted) the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God. The word (perverted) is #2015; it means to change. ALL modern version Bibles have changed the words of the living God. If God promised to Preserve His Words forever then we have it somewhere today or that verse would be a lie, God cannot lie! How did God get that promised Word to us today in the KJB? He used holy men of God in ( 2 Pet 1:19-21) The KJB has had the same words since 1611. Others versions have changed, and then some have even revised, or changed their own words again! ( 1 Cor 14:33) Tells us God is not the author of confusion. If 10 people read the same verse from 10 different modern versions, then you ask them to memorize that verse, would there be confusion among them, or would they all speak the same thing? ( 1 Cor 1:10) says that ye all speak the same thing, and there be no divisions among you. Would them 10 people speak the same thing? would there be divisions among them? ((Think about that.)) The word (pure) is #2889; it means uncontaminated, unadulterated, sound. Gods pure Words are in the KJB. Do not trust other Bibles they will be deceptive! This was pretty long but its really important to study the True Word of God. Blessings.
Generation as described biblically: Please read = Genesis 7:1, Ecclesiastes 1:4, Lamentations 5:19, Daniel 4:3, Matthew 1,
In comparison to your example of Noah- Exodus 20:1-5, Exodus 34:7, Numbers 14:18, Deuteronomy 2:14, Judges 2:10, 2Kings 10:30, 2Kings 15:12, Hebrews 3, Luke 1:50, Psalms 102:18, John 17,
Prophetic about Jesus & other generations- Proverbs 30:12,13,14, Isaiah 53:8, Matthew 11,
Proverbs 30:11
How's your Father? Glad he's in a safe place. His needs are bring met. That he has you to keep up with him. God bless and keep you strong
in the Lord. Thank God you are not named among these generations.
11There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother. 12There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness. 13There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up. 14There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.
Your post brought out some important points.
Kindness, love and compassion leads us to dwell more on justification and redemption and less on Rites and Judging.
Thanks for sharing.
Be blessed.
Proverbs 30:5-6: "Every word of God is flawless; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. Do not add to His words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar."
Revelation 22:18-19: "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll."
These verses serve as a safeguard against human interference that could distort divine truth. They underscore the importance of preserving the integrity of God's Word and the consequences of tampering with its messages.
11There is a generation of those who curse their fathers
and do not bless their mothers.
12There is a generation of those who are pure in their own eyes
and yet unwashed of their filth.
13There is a generation-how haughty are their eyes
and pretentious are their glances-
14there is a generation whose teeth are swords
and whose jaws are knives,
devouring the oppressed from the earth
and the needy from among men.
Pretty fair summation of today; I would say.
I have spent a fair amount of time recently in discussing judgment in the house of God; not so much in general of those who are unbelievers. OF couse we have to stop and think about behaviors that are uncomely to God's people. James 3:10 states:
Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be. The world holds the church up to the standard it professes; while the world is expected; more or less to behave badly. Such an assumption is naive at best; and can keep us from reaching very kind individuals assuming they aren't in spiritual danger and focus on opposition with this logic.
More precisely; it is the master who is the conductor of our lives and as Jesus stated we cannot serve two masters. Jesus Himself said "forgive them because they know not what they're doing" in Luke 23:34 as well as Acts 7:60 when Stephen was being stoned after his heavenly vision of Christ standing on the throne. It may well have been a reminder from Christ Himself as his spirit departed to do the same. At any rate; the world is under bondage from the enemy but a truly saved individual isn't. Despite this; of course the enemy will try to accuse and convince someone that they are useless for the Lord and indeed if there is a stronghold of sin it is sufficient for him to maintain; with glee no doubt whatever power the particular minion has over a person.
So unconditional love helps us to overcome evil with good ( Romans 12:21). Otherwise we're toast.
Revelation 9:10 - And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
The descriptions alone tell us that these are not normal locusts. Satan is over them. These are demonic like creatures.
Revelation 9:11 - And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
They had a king over them. If you ever done a study on locusts, you know that locusts do not have a king. They go in groups. Proverbs 30:27 tells us that the locusts do not have a king. But these had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is ABADDON, the destroyer. But in the Greek tongue, his name is APOLLYON, same definition, destroyer.
He is the destroyer, just as Jesus described him in John Chapter 8. He is a murderer. He is a liar. He is the destroyer. These are demonic creatures. 2 Peter 2:4 tells us that there are demons in chains reserved for judgment that are kept down into the heart of the earth. The one usage at that time in 2 Peter 2:4 was TARTARUS. And that's the special pit for demonic forces.
Revelation 9:13 - And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
Remember horns, I had mentioned that from the book of Daniel, horns are a symbol of authority. The four horns is complete authority over the four corners of the earth. It is on the altar of God which is in heaven.
Revelation 9:16 - And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand:
That's a bad English way of using the largest number in the Greek language, and it adds up to two-hundred million.
Deuteronomy 4:2 Proverbs 30:6 Revelation 22:18
So thank you all who have participated in this discussion. It has somewhat answered my original question of the use of parentheses in our KJV.
My conclusion thus far is that the parentheses were added into the translation to somewhat denote as a commentary by the translators that this section of scripture that was written by the original author is merely a thought added to the original thought.
And in another case; maybe that some of the original words were not Holy Spirit inspired such as in Romans 3:5.
I was so blessed to have chosen the KJV to read when I wanted to know the truth. It was after reading this Holy Scripture that I was completely convinced of our Lord and Saviour Christ Jesus.
And in my study, so far, to compare the KJV and the modern bibles, it is apparent that so much, faithfully, spiritually, and hope and love is lost in the modern bibles. Today it is extremely difficult to find a church that uses the KJV.
We want to save Mormons, JW's and Muslims, I think we need to save modern bible users as well from their lack of understanding.
Again thank you all who participated in this discussion, as we worship in spirit and in truth.
Q: What do the words in italics or [brackets] mean?
A: These are words the translators added from the Hebrew and Greek to make the English complete. It is also seen in italics in some Bibles.
Examples:
Genesis 1:10
And God called the dry [land] Earth; and the gathering together of
the waters called he Seas: and God saw that [it was] good.
Proverbs 30:11
[There is] a generation [that] curseth their father, and doth not bless
their mother.
Romans 6:5
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall
be also [in the likeness] of [his] resurrection:
The translation Bible should be as pure as possible to the original.
Psalm 12:6
Thewordsof theLordarepurewords: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
God's Word is pure.
Proverbs 30:5
EverywordofGodis pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
God's Word will never pass away.
Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
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Every time we read the Bible, just think that Jesus Christ wrote it.
Hebrews 12:2
Looking unto Jesus theauthorand finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
The King James Version has been great
I am a divorced homeless woman without an income cause Iost my job and had to move to where I could find shelter. I ask Jesus to install in people a heart of compassion and not judging and to rebuke rich people who are selfish and live for their own pleasure and look with disdain on us struggling. Restore our dignity and according to Proverbs 30:8-9 give me neither poverty nor riches so I do not deny God nor resort to stealing and insult my God. Please pray for me in Jesus name
The KJB truly is the pure Words of the Lord, the (Spirit of truth) is the KJB! All those who trust modern version bibles are putting their trust in doctrines of devils ( 1 Tim 4:1) and deceiving themselves and others ( 2 Tim 4:3-4)
The Comforter IS the Holy Ghost ( Jn 14:26) This verse tells us that the "Comforter" WHICH IS the "Holy Ghost" will teach us all things "he shall teach you all things".
Now in ( Jn 16:13-15) This verse tells us "when the "Spirit of truth" is come, he will (guide) you into all truth"
The word (guide) is #3594; and it means to show the way.
The Spirit of truth will show the way to all truth, the KJB is that Spirit of truth! The Comforter, which IS the Holy Ghost, will teach us all things from the Spirit of truth.
The Comforter, which IS the Holy Ghost is joined with the Spirit of truth. ( Jn 14:16-17) v16 tells us "and he shall give you another "Comforter" that he may abide with you for ever". v17 tells us "(Even) the "Spirit of truth" whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you". The word (Even) is #2531; it means just (or inasmuch) as, according to, with which it is joined.
WITH WHICH IT IS JOINED? WOW!
The Comforter, which IS the Holy Ghost IS joined with the Spirit of truth.
The Holy Ghost, which is the Comforter IS joined with the Spirit of truth, which IS the King James Bible!
The KJB is the pure Words of the LORD ( Proverbs 30:5-6) and ( Ps 12:6-7)
All modern version bibles are words of men who (changed) the words of the living God to deceive, ( Jer 23:36) The word (perverted) is #2015; it means to turn about or over, to change. modern version bibles DONOT have the Holy Ghost joined with them! Those who are using modern versions cannot find this truth!
The Word of God is Alive, it truly is Amazing!!
Blessings to you Momsage.
( Proverbs 30:5-6)
( Rev 22:18-19)
( Jer 23:36) perverted is #2015; it means "to change".
( Ps 12:6-7) 6) "The words of the LORD are pure words" pure is #2889; it means unadulterated, uncontaminated, sound.
7) "Thou shalt keep them O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever". preserve is #5341, it means to guard, to protect, maintain, obey.
( John 14:23-24) "If a man love me, he will ((keep my words)) and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him".
This verse is telling us if we don't keep His words the Father and Jesus will not come unto us and abode with us.
Many on this site do not keep His words.
His words are pure words preserved for ever in the King James Bible, ((FOR EVER))
They are not preserved only in the manuscripts, ( 2 Tim 2:15) tells us "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth". We are told to study, and rightly divide the word of truth.
Can we study and rightly divide the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts today? No we can not!
His words are pure ( Proverbs 30:5) His words are Alive ( Heb 4:12) His words are Inspired ( 2 Tim 3:16) which is God breathed ( 2 Pet 1:19-21) His words are sound doctrine, His words are not perverted.
Modern versions are perverted words of men ( Jer 23:36) they have all "changed" the words of the living God!
It is very important to see this Truth, modern versions are doctrines of devils ( 1 Tim 4:1)
Modern versions are not sound doctrine ( 2 Tim 4:3-4)
I pray this is helpful to any who trust modern version bibles.
Blessings!
It's really simple One eighty, do you Believe the Word of God?
God promised He would preserve His Word in ( Ps 12:6-7) The Word of God is Truth, God preserved His Word in 1611 in the KJB.
The words of the LORD are pure words.
Every word of God is pure ( Proverbs 30:5-6) (EVERY) WORD, (EVERY) WORD of God is pure.
In ( John 14:23) Jesus said "If a man love me, ((he will keep my words)); and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him".
There a condition with Jesus and the Father coming unto a person and making their abode with him, what is it? ((he will keep my words))
Keep His words.
Then if we look at the other side of it.
( Jer 23:36) Tells us "for ye have (perverted) the words of the living God" (perverted) is #2015; it means to change.
All the modern version bibles have changed the words of the living God!
( Jer 23) is prophecy for today about pastors that feed God's people ( Jer 23:1-2) and scatter His flock.
What do pastors feed Gods people? The Word of God!
Then we see ( 2 Tim 4:3-4) Where is the doctrine at today that's not sound doctrine?
Those who do not endure sound doctrine are those who choose the bibles that (change) or pervert their words, turning from the truth.
So there would be (perverted) scripture meaning (to change) the words, these would not be sound doctrine, this is also all modern version bibles. Then we see ( 2 Tim 3:16) "scripture that is inspired by God", the KJB.
Truth is what matters One eighty.
Again thank you for your response.
God Bless you and all who seek His Truth.
The words of the LORD are pure words. ( Ps 12:6-7) (pure) is #2889; it means sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.
Every word of God is pure ( Proverbs 30:5-6) (Every) is #3605; it means the whole, all, any or every.
For the word of God is (quick) and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword ( Hebrews 4:12) (quick) #2198 it means to live, alive. The word of God is Alive, the word of God is not confusion!
God is not the author of confusion ( 1 Cor 14:33) (confusion) is #181; it means instability, i.e. disorder, inconstant, unstable.
All these different modern version bibles that change words and completely leave out whole verses are instability, disorder, they are inconstant, they are unstable! Many have changed their own words several different times! ( 1 Cor 1:10) Telle us "that we all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among us, but that we be perfectly joined together in the same mind"..
( Jer 23:36) "for ye have (perverted) the words of the living God" (perverted) is #2015; it means to change.
The words of the LORD are pure words, (pure) #2889; sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.
It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by ((every word)) that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. ( Mt 4:4)
EVERY WORD!
"For we are not as many, which (corrupt) the word of God".. ( 2 Cor 2:17) (corrupt) is #2585; it means to retail, (to adulterate).
This is doctrine that's not sound doctrine, but it is instability, inconstant, and unstable! ( 2 Tim 4:3-4) IT IS CORRUPT!
Remember the words of the LORD are pure words, they are sound, (unadulterated), uncontaminated.
One eighty look up ( Ps 12:7) in your Niv bible and compare it with the KJB.
Also compare ( Mark 11:26) and ( Eph 3:9) in your Niv with the KJB.
And here's a really big one to compare ( Col 1:14)
This is the definition of (perverted), #2015 it means to change.
God Bless you, and all who seek His Truth.
( Ps 12:6) The (words) of the LORD are pure (words)..
(words) is #565; it means commandment, something said.
( Proverbs 30:6) Add thou not unto his (words) lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(words) in this verse is #1697; it means a book, chronicles, commandment, commune (-cation) promise, saying, sentence, (concerning) thought. (The words we are told not to add unto are in (a book)
( Isa 34:16) Seek ye out of the (book) of the LORD, and read,..
(book) is #5612; it means writing (the art or a document) by implying a book, evidence, learn (-ed) (-ing) letter.
( 2 Tim 3:16) All (scripture) is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
(scripture) is #1124; it means a document, i.e. holy Writ (or its contents or a statement in it) to grave. to write, to describe.
( 2 Pet 1:20-21) The word (scripture) has the same meaning as above #1124, a document, holy Writ.
(prophecy) is #4394; it means prediction (scriptural or other) a foreteller, an inspired speaker.
( Rev 1:2-3) v2 Who bare record of the (word of God) and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. v3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear (the words) (of this prophecy) and keep those things (which are written) therein: for the time is at hand.
( Rev 22:18-19) v18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the ((words of the prophecy of this book)), If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. v19 And if any man shall take away from the ((words of the book of this prophecy)), God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
( Ps 12:6-7) v7 Thou shalt keep them O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
(preserve) is #5341; it means to guard, to protect, maintain, obey.
( 2 Tim 3:16) "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness". ALL ((TRUE)) scripture is given by Inspiration of God. Inspiration is #2315; it means divinely breathed in. All True scripture is God breathed.
The KJB says in ( Jn 7:8) "Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up ((yet)) unto this feast; for my time is not full come".
In the KJB Jesus said "I go not up yet"
The Nasb bible says "I am not going up to this feast".
The Niv bible says "I am not going up to this festival".
The Nlt bible says "I'm not going to this festival".
The Esv bible says "I am not going up to this feast".
The Gnt bible says "I am not going to this festival".
In all these versions in v10 Jesus goes to the feast.
All modern version bibles say the same thing, Jesus said "I am not going" Then In v10 Jesus went to the feast!
All modern version bibles have (changed the words) and are saying Jesus lied!! ( Jer 23:36) The word (perverted) is #2015; it means to turn about or over, by implying (to change), pervert. They change or pervert the words of the living God and they show Jesus to be a liar!
Would that be God breathed?
Or would that be ( 1 Tim 4:1) .."doctrines of devils"?
( 2 Tim 3:16) Would saying Jesus is a liar be "profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"?
( Mt 4:4) .. "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by (every word) that proceedeth out of the mouth of God".
EVERY WORD! (KJB Jn 7:8) "I go not up (yet)" EVERY WORD!
The words of the LORD are pure words ( Ps 12:6-7) v7 preserved for ever.
( Proverbs 30:5-6) v5 "(Every word) of God is pure" v6 "Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar".
The KJB is the scripture that's given by Inspiration of God, the pure words preserved from this generation for ever.
It is also truly good to see someone else defending the Inspired Word of God on this site, sadly not many do!
Every Word of God is pure! ( Proverbs 30:5-6)
Growing daily should be important to every one of us.
God Bless you TKL.
( Jn 14:26) "But the Comforter, (which is the Holy Ghost), whom the Father will send ((the Father WILL send, this is future)) in my name, he shall teach you all things, ((he SHALL teach you all things, also future tense)) and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John said the Father (will send) the Holy Ghost.
( 1 Cor 2:12-13) v13 "Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
(teacheth) is #1318; it means instructed or objectively communicated by teaching, taught.
(Holy) is #40; it means sacred, (physically pure, morally blameless or religious, consecrated) (most) holy (one, thing) clean, innocent, PERFECT, pure.
(Ghost) is #4151; it means a current of air i.e. breath, a spirit, (superhuman) an angel, or (divine) God, Christ's spirit, the Holy Ghost, spirit (-ual, _ually).
The Holy Ghost instructed or communicated by teaching.
( 2 Pet 1:20-21) v20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
v21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost instructed or communicated by teaching.
This is speaking of the prophecy that we have today which came to us not by the will of man in 1611, but by the teaching of the Holy Ghost which compares spiritual things with spiritual, instructing He communicates and teaches you all things. That's why the KJB is the pure, preserved words of the LORD, ( Ps 12:6-7) The Words of the LORD are Perfect, Every word is pure ( Proverbs 30:5-6).
The holy men of God who were moved by the Holy Ghost (was) the translators of the KJB.
How could anyone possibly see this any other way?
The Truth should be what matters if we seek it.
God Bless all who seek His Truth.
The numbers 77 or 777 or 77777 and all of them being connected to the words Jesus, Christ, Holy Spirit, LORD, or God, this is the LORD showing us who are alive today just how PERFECT HE MADE HIS WORD.
It only confirms the Words of the LORD are pure words! ( Ps 12:6-7) ( Proverbs 30:5-6) They are Perfect in 1 Bible ONLY!
The KJB!
Here's one example.
KJB ( Col 1:4) "In whom we have redemption through his blood"
The Nasb says "in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins"
Which verse would you say is Perfect?
Blessings to you.
The word (pure) is #2889; it means sound, clear, unadulterated, uncontaminated, innocent or holy.
Comparing the KJB and the Nasb.
KJB ( Col 1:14) "In whom we have redemption through his blood"'
The Nasb says "in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins"
Here the Nasb removes the blood of Jesus Christ!
KJB ( 2 Sam 21:19) Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite.
The Nasb says "Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite"
Here the Nasb says Elhanan killed Goliath, wouldn't that be adding to the Word? ( Prov 30:5-6) ( Rev 22:18-19)
KJB ( Jn 7:8) Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come.
The Nasb says "Go up to the feast yourselves; I am not going up to this feast, because my time is not yet fully arrived".
Jesus went to the feast so the Nasb is making Jesus look like He's a liar, but ( Proverbs 30:5-6)
KJB ( Jn 6:47) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life"
The Nasb says "Truly, truly, I say to you, the one who believes has eternal life"
The KJB is the Inspired Word of God! There are many verses where Jesus tells us we should keep His Words!
All modern versions fit perfectly with this verse ( Jer 23:36) The word (perverted) is #2015; it means to turn about or over, to change, overturn pervert, change. Someone is changing the words of the living God, that would be all modern version bibles.
( 1 Tim 4:1) In the (latter times which is our time now) many will give heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.
( 2 Tim 4:3-4) Do you not see that the Nasb is doctrine that's not sound? You could safely say its even anti-Jesus!
Modern versions are all the same, they are only words of men, these bibles are not Inspired by God!
The Truth matters.
Blessings.
Thank you for your comment.
( Ps 12:6-7) The words of the LORD are pure words.
( Proverbs 30:5-6) Every word of God is pure.
The word (pure) is #2889; it means pure (in a physical, chemical, ceremonial or moral sense) clean, sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated, innocent or holy.
( Deut 8:3) "that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by ((every word)) that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live".
( Mt 4:4) "But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by ((every word)) that proceedeth out of the mouth of God".
In ( Ps 138:2) "for thou hast magnified (THY WORD) above all thy name".
( Jn 14:23-24) v23 "If a man love me, ((he will keep)) ((my words)) and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him".
Today we are either a Bible Believer, or we are a Bible corrector.
Bible Believers believe that God preserved His Words perfectly, it is given by Inspiration of God!
Bible correctors believe that God preserved His Words in the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts but then He just leaves the largest population of people ever in the history of the world without His True Words to read and study for themselves! And that would mean He leaves those without His True Words in the Lastdays, the worse possible time ever where deception is everywhere.
Would God do that? NO God would not do that!
All modern versions are counterfeit Adam, they are (perverted), they change the Words of the living God. ( Jer 23:36) (perverted) is #2015; it means TO CHANGE.
God Bless you Adam, stay strong in your Faith in the True Word of God, the KJB.
You said "its silly to get caught up in which translation is the "true" translation, I will give everyone a different view; and I'll do that by asking a question". (YOU will give a different view by asking a question)? Where did we see that before?
The first question in the Bible was asked by the serpent ( Gen 3:1) "Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?" This question by the serpent was to cause the woman ((to doubt)) the True commandment of God. It was a lie from the Devil, and it worked!!
You also said "What is the holy bible but paper and ink"?
The Word of God says ( Ps 138:2) "for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name".
( 1 Pet 1:25) "But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is (the word) which (by the gospel ((is preached)) unto you)".
The word (gospel) is #2097; it means to announce good news ("evangelize") especially the gospel.
The word which by the gospel is preached unto us today, so we do have that TRUE gospel being preached from a book today.
( Proverbs 30:5-6) v5 "Every word of God is pure" v6 "Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar".
You are on the wrong side of the fence here Daruled, Your words are going against the Words of the Lord.
If you truly seek the Truth in this matter then find (Truth is Christ) on youtube and watch a video called, The Bible in our hand is the Twoedged SWORD of His MOUTH- Clear Evidence!
Please stop claiming the Word of God is only ink and paper, seek and Pray and you will find the Truth!
May God open your eyes to see that His pure Words are in the KJB.
( Jer 23:36) And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; FOR YE HAVE ((PERVERTED)) THE WORDS OF THE LIVING GOD, of the LORD of hosts our God.
The word (perverted) is #2015; it means TO CHANGE.
TO PERVERT the words of the living God, is to Change the word of God!
Modern versions pervert the words of the living God!
Truth matters!
This is a tough verse to fully understand. First, in the context, of the conversation Jesus is having with Nicodemus it would seem that Jesus was telling him no man had ascended to heaven to get the knowledge of heavenly things and returned to teach it to men on earth, similar to Proverbs 30:4. So, no man is qualified to speak of them but He/Jesus who came down from heaven.
John 3:13 No man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
One thing that makes this difficult is the ending, it is like Jesus said this after He had ascended to heaven after His resurrection. "Which is in heaven" Some translations leave this ending out where it ends with man, which would involve other topics I will not add to this, hope this helps.
God bless,
RLW
Hopefully these are encouraging to you in this time
Psalms 139, Psalms 37,
Matthew 18, 1Kings 7:4,5,6, Proverbs 30:8,9,
Psalms 84, Psalms 28, Psalms 18:32,
Isaiah 26:2,3,
Hopefully these are helpful
In comparison to your example of Noah- Exodus 20:1-5, Exodus 34:7, Numbers 14:18, Deuteronomy 2:14, Judges 2:10, 2Kings 10:30, 2Kings 15:12, Hebrews 3, Luke 1:50, Psalms 102:18, John 17,
Prophetic about Jesus & other generations- Proverbs 30:12,13,14, Isaiah 53:8, Matthew 11,
Psalms 12:6-7, Psalms 14,
Hopefully these are helpful