2 Timothy 2:24-26 And the servant of the Lord MUST NOT STRIVE; but BE GENTLE unto all men, apt to teach, PATIENT, 25IN MEEKNESS instructing those that oppose themselves;
A Christian street evangelist was demonstrating outside a city amphitheater. He was part of a group of individuals heckling concert goers through a megaphone, calling them "whores," "sissies," and "Jezebels."
Taking the above into consideration, it does not appear that the two quotes are compatible by any rational standard.
There is a contingent of Christians, at least in name, who have arrived at a biblically skewed conclusion that the ministry of the Gospel of Christ Jesus includes harassing, denigrating, insulting, and otherwise badgering the lost. This attitude could not be further from our biblical calling.
The Bible provides precise instructions on how to conduct ourselves when occupied in the ministry of the Gospel: preaching, witnessing, and otherwise engaging with the lost. None of which includes calling them "whores," "sissies," and "Jezebels." The servant of the Lord must:
Not Strive
Be Gentle
Be Apt to Teach
Be Patient
In Meekness Instructing
Titus 3:2-3 To SPEAK EVIL OF NO MAN, to be NO BRAWLERS, but GENTLE, shewing all MEEKNESS unto all men. 3For WE OURSELVES ALSO were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy,
Would you have received the Gospel being harassed, denigrated, insulted, and badgered? It is reminiscent of the Inquisition, not the love and grace of God.
Philippians 1:27 Only LET YOUR CONVERSATION BE AS IT BECOMETH THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST that ye STAND FAST IN ONE SPIRIT, WITH ONE MIND STRIVING TOGETHER FOR THE FAITH OF THE GOSPEL;
To be of one mind, we all have to follow the same rules.
Colossians 3:14 And above all these things PUT ON CHARITY, which is the bond of perfectness.
James 2:8 IF YE FULFIL THE ROYAL LAW according to the scripture, Thou shalt LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF,...
Hi again June 316. As much as your question can generate various opinions, my belief is that if a Christian has truly been born again, having received the Holy Spirit to indwell, sustain & secure him/her, then it is impossible for that person to have God's Spirit abandon him/her for any reason.
It is however true, that if a believer should succumb to the enemy's temptations and does not take remedial action as the Holy Spirit directs, then there will be loss. Not a loss of the Holy Spirit or salvation, but the loss of sweet communion, maybe of some degree of estrangement if sin is allowed to persist, and of the Spirit's intervention by way of warning or discipline. Or the Spirit might even allow that erring soul to taste the depravity of his/her sin, so that they may come to their senses, repent, and be restored; the story of the prodigal son is a good example of a poor choice made and yet, of a waiting loving father who is ready to forgive, receive, and restore ( Luke 15:11-32).
Just a few verses to consider (and there are many more): John 10:26-29; Romans 8:33-39; Ephesians 1:13,14; Ephesians 2:8-10; Philippians 1:6; 1 Peter 1:3-5; Jude 1:24,25.
This is why we often read of the apostles encouraging believers to be on guard against the enemy of our souls, of sin creeping into the life, and not being involved in anything that even smells of sin; Why? Not for salvation's loss, but for suffering under God's Hand of discipline and the pain of estrangement from God.
Why should we entertain anything that breaks our special love relationship with our God & Savior & bring on ourselves sorrow upon sorrow? The Holy Spirit will always alert us when we err and will always bring us back, so salvation cannot be lost. But for those who feel no sorrow or estrangement when they stray, they do not have the Holy Spirit within them and are not saved. But while they have breath, there remains hope if they draw near to God, He will draw near to them. GBU.
It seems the scriptures you gathered argues against your point.
To begin with Matthew 24:13 I don't know about you but I wont believe around during that period of time.
However if you are and you happen to endure it will be because of the blood of the Lamb.
Revelation 12:10-11.
If you believe you can do it any other way you are already recieved!
You would be using the same filthy flesh that have you in bondage to cleanse yourself with.
Also; You brought up Hebrews 12:7.
Hebrews 12:7 argues against your point!
Hebrews 12:5-10 reads
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, THAT WE MIGHT BE PARTAKERS OF HIS HOLINESS.
We have a father that promises to never leave us and keeps us in line even unto death!
Paul says in Philippians 1:6
"Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
James 1:12 reads "Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
"When he is tried" in this verse is when he is MADE acceptable.
The verse says Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: "FOR OR BECAUSE" WHEN HE IS TRIED,
The Bible generally discourages marking the body, such as tattoos or self-inflicted cuts, particularly in the Old Testament, as seen in Leviticus 19:28, which forbids cutting the flesh for the dead or making marks on oneself. While the New Testament does not directly address tattoos, it emphasizes that believers' bodies belong to God and should honor Him. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 declares that the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit and, having been purchased by Christ, should glorify God. Romans 12:1 calls believers to present their bodies as living sacrifices, holy and acceptable to God. 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 reinforces that defiling the body, God's temple, is a serious offense. Other passages, like Philippians 1:20, 2 Corinthians 7:1, and 1 Thessalonians 4:4, urge believers to pursue holiness, sanctification, and honor in their physical lives. Together, these scriptures highlight that while the Old Testament prohibits certain bodily markings, the overarching biblical principle for all believers is to treat the body as God's dwelling and use it to glorify Him in every way.
Paul never teaches that believers in the Body of Christ can lose salvation, though some verses are misread that way. For example, 1 Corinthians 9:27 warns of being a "castaway," but Paul is referring to disqualification from reward or service, not loss of eternal life. In Galatians 5:4, "fallen from grace" means leaving the principle of grace for law-keeping, not forfeiting salvation. 2 Corinthians 13:5 calls for self-examination of genuine faith, not teaching that salvation can be undone. Likewise, Colossians 1:23 emphasizes perseverance as evidence of true faith.
In contrast, Paul repeatedly assures believers of eternal security. Romans 8:38-39 declares that nothing can separate us from Christ's love. Ephesians 1:13-14 teaches that believers are sealed with the Spirit until redemption. Philippians 1:6 promises that God will complete His saving work. 2 Timothy 1:12 affirms Christ's power to keep what is entrusted to Him. Romans 11:29 states that God's gifts and calling are without repentance.
Thus, the "warning" passages deal with reward, service, and testimony, while Paul's consistent teaching is that salvation itself is secure in Christ.
2 Corinthians 1:21,22: God has established us in Christ, anointed us, as sealed us with the guarantee of the Spirit, and is certainly not going to let us go. Also Ephesians 1:3-14.
Ephesians 2:8,9: it is only by God's Grace, as His Gift, that we are saved. If we are saved any other way, it is according to our way of salvation - not God's, which is endures & secures.
Philippians 1:6: If God has begun His Work in us, we can be confident He will always continue to work in us by His Spirit till the day we see Jesus in His Glory.
Jude 1:24: God alone can keep us from falling & present us faultless when we see Him.
A few verses that should teach us & assure us that the one who is truly is in Christ is truly secure forever. He will neither want to leave this most valuable Holy Faith, nor even be persuaded to do so even under the threat of death - for our lives are new, seated in the heavenly places, no longer of the Earth, hidden with Christ in God.
So, what is salvation? For me, salvation happened the moment I received Christ and His Spirit came into my spirit. That was a one-time event. I can only be born of His Spirit once. But like you, I also see salvation as past, present, and future. In other words, I was saved, I am being saved, and in the end, I will be saved.
I'm looking at Philippians 1:6 which reads, "Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:"
The first thing I notice is that Paul says, "being confident." This is actually a Perfect Tense which should read "having become confident." Paul can confidently say about this very thing that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform (literally complete it), until the day of Jesus Christ. God's promise to us is that whatever work He began in us, He's going to complete it until Christ comes. That's how permanent our salvation is!
I also agree that when we receive Jesus through faith, our sins are forgiven, we are justified by faith, and covered with a white garment, clean and pure. We are covered in the righteousness of Christ. He (Jesus) is pure and clean ( Philippians 3:9).
Please notice that I didn't use the word "accept." I'm not sure if you knew this or not, but the bible never tells us to accept Jesus. It does tell us to receive Him ( John 1:12). I don't mean to be fastidious, but in my mind, there's a difference between the words accept and receive, especially when it comes to Christ. To accept just means to mentally agree with something, or someone. We must receive Him.
Amen! Your prayer touches deeply - thank you for sharing it with such sincerity and boldness. I stand in agreement with you in the mighty name of Jesus.
I, too, have been learning to thank the Lord not only for the blessings, but also for the trials - because it's in the fire that our faith is refined. Recently, I've been asking God the same: to align my will with His, even when I don't understand the path. It takes courage to say, "Lord, I trust You - even when it's hard."
Just like you, I've placed my steps, my studies, and my family into His hands. And yes - I declare victory, not because of my strength, but because His Word never fails.
Philippians 1:6 reminds me: "He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus."
So I will press on, with faith and expectation, because if God called us, He will equip us.
God will take away some of our gifts and replace it with the word of truth.
1 Corinthians 13:8
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shallcease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
We now have the word of truth .
1 Corinthians 13:10
But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall bedoneaway.
Apostle Paul wants us to pray in the Holy Spirit.
Praying always with allprayerand supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
We should always gift thanks to the Father in Heaven before we ask .
Philippians 4:6
Be careful for nothing; but in every thing byprayerand supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
We should pray to do no evil.
2 Corinthians 13:7
Now Iprayto God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.
We should pray for knowledge.
Philippians 1:9
And this Ipray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;
We should pray always everyday.
1 Thessalonians 5:17
Praywithout ceasing.
God want us to pray for everything in life.
1 Timothy 2:8
I will therefore that menprayevery where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
Should we look at Apostle Paul as a Angel of God ? ?
Galatians 4:14
And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus
Apostle Paul might not be a angel , but he was the hardest working Apostle in history and we had the Twelve Apostles for the Jews.
1 Corinthians 15:9-10
9For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
10But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
We that are saved will be judging angels.
1 Corinthians 6:3
Know ye not that we shall judgeangels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
The only angel to be careful of is Satan himself.
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into anangelof light.
All Apostle Paul wants us to do is follow the gospel of grace in his Epistles.
Philippians 1:7
Even as it is meet for me to think thisofyou all, because I have you in my heart; in as much as both in my bonds, and in the defence and confirmationofthegospel, ye all are partakersofmygrace
May we know the Gospel of Grace in Apostle Paul's epistle.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Angels in Heaven believe that the Gospel of Grace is true for Salvation.
Apostle Peter explained how the prophets searched for the grace of God but couldn't find it and here God gave it to Apostle Paul to write.
1 Peter 1:10
Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of thegracethat should come unto you:
Jude warns the believing Jews to be careful with false brethren with fake grace.
Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning thegraceof our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
The Philippines are partakers of Apostle Paul's grace. That means we are to take notice of Paul's grace given to him.
Philippians 1:7
Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defence and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace.
Apostle Paul only wanted to spread the Gospel of Grace to the Jews first and then the Gentiles.
Acts 20:24
But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of thegraceof God.
Apostle Paul's epistle is where we find grace for today.
Romans 3:24
Being justified freely by hisgracethrough the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
May we enjoy our free grace from the ascended Lord Jesus Christ in the third Heaven.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Grace is free by just believing the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ only .
GiGi , thanks for your story and it really touched my heart . I know that all may not agree with what I post in the writing, but it's all about winning one soul to Christ Jesus. I also know we can use the word of God to fight the scriptures in a way that is not Faith. I pray to God everyday that I do it in love and I do it in Jesus Christ faith .
Philippians 1:14-17
14And many of the brethren in the Lord, waxing confident by my bonds, are much more bold to speak the word without fear.
15Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
16The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
17But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
As a Christians, we are always going to offend others, because they are always ready to point it out. Satan and his followers will always accuse us of all our sins to God.
Revelation 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for theaccuserof our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
But there hope, it's Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour.
Titus 2:13
Looking for thatblessedhope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
The Holy Spirit inside us is a wonderful joy and I want to spread that joy to others.
Galatians 5:22-25
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Thank you for your message and may the Lord bless you and yours also. Like you, I am also still learning. Learning never stops. I agree, Paul seems to be the most prominent of the Apostles.
I would just like to touch on a couple things. Something I find interesting with 2 Thessalonians 2:2 is that the oldest manuscripts do not say the day of Christ. They say the day of the Lord, the same phrase we see in 1 Thessalonians 5:2. My understanding is that the day of the Lord is not talking about a specific day but a time period that God has set apart for judgment.
Indeed, Philippians 1:11 is an important verse. My understanding of being "filled with the Holy Spirit" is when God's Spirit which dwells in me takes over my faculties. As a believer, I have 100% of God's Spirit in me at all times but I am not always being filled with the Holy Spirit. There are times where even though I have the fulness of His Spirit in me, I am off doing my own thing. Also, if I have God's Spirit in me, I am and will bear fruit. It is impossible for a believer to be born of God's Spirit and not bear fruit.
I like what you're saying about Philippians 1:18. That was Paul's approach to the hardships he went through. The word rejoice means satisfaction. I'm sure Paul was not happy that people were causing division in the fellowship in the body of Christ, but even through the hardship and division, Christ was being preached which gave him satisfaction and allowed him to keep the unity of the fellowship in the bond of peace.
Jesse, that you so much for the study of the book of Philippians. I am still learning and hope one day to write more Bible studies. May God bless you and you're family in the Lord Jesus Christ.
This is my little study in what I see in the verses.
Part 1. Philippians 1:1
I find it interesting that the Bible mentions bishop in Apostle Paul's epistle more . Apostle Peter only mentioned once.
Part 2. Philippians 1:6,7,8
I find it interesting to hear the word " day of Jesus Christ " . To me the Day of Christ would be the meeting in the clouds. 2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Part 3. Philippians 1:9,10,16
I find verse 11 to be very important to grow in grace, for we need to be fill with the Holy Spirit to bear fruits to good works in Christ Jesus. " Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God. "
Part 4. Philippians 1:18, 19
I love verse 18, no matter what happens in life, we must all preach Jesus Christ gospel of grace . 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Part 5. Philippians 1:27, 30
I love verse 27, our conversation should always be the gospel of Christ Jesus.
Philippians 1:21
is one my favorite verse, because when things get bad, the easy way out is to die, but there is hope for strength in Jesus Christ to continue in the grace of the gospel .
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 my gospel of the grace of God
Philippians 1:27 - Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;
He says only let your conversation, which is the word citizenship. The word conversation is the word citizenship. Only let your citizenship be as it becomes the gospel of Christ:
The word becomes means worthy. Again, the balance scales in the markets. You put an item on one side that you want to purchase, and you have to put money on the other side to where it equals out. And Paul is saying let your life equal out to the ministry of the gospel and truth of Jesus Christ, that whether I come to see you, or be absent, I may hear of your affairs.
Here's what he wants to hear: Number one, that you stand firm. That's the same message from back in Ephesians. In one spirit, in one mind (literally soul), while striving together for the faith of the gospel; The term striving together is the word SUNATHLETOS, SUN (pronounced soon) for with, and ATHLETOS for the word athletic.
You function together as a team for the furtherance of the gospel. No division. You're under the influence of the same Spirit. You're like one soul. You're like one person rather than a bunch of individuals.
Philippians 1:30 - Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me.
Having the same conflict, and that's the word agony. Having the same agony which you saw in me, and now you hear to be in me. Paul says you want to know what it looks like, what I just told you about believing and suffering? It's the same agony that you see in my life, as I, like an athlete, battle with the opponent all day long. That's not just God's will for Paul. That's for every believer!
Philippians 1:18 - What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
We know what the rejoice means. It means satisfied. Obviously, Paul's not happy that people are coming between him and other people and there's a division happening in the fellowship in the body of Christ. But he has to be satisfied with it all because in the midst of it all, Christ is being preached. And all the things that are wrong about what these other people are doing, Christ is being preached!
So, he says that's my satisfaction. That also saves him from growing bitter against those who are treating him unjustly, and it allows him to keep the fellowship, the unity of the fellowship in the bond of peace.
Philippians 1:19 - For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,
I'd like to share some technical information that I have learned. The term to my salvation is literally "for me for salvation." You might ask what's the difference? It's not Paul's salvation. But he knows that in his situation, it's going to be for him for the preaching of the gospel and the salvation of other people.
But notice that it's through two things: Through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ. There you go. The fellowship of believers that are bonded together through prayer, and the supply of God's Spirit, that's it. That's all you need!
Philippians 1:9 - And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;
Notice that he didn't pray that they would get love. A genuine believer already has love, the AGAPE love, because God is love. If you have Christ living in you, you have His love. He says that it might abound yet more and more. And notice that it's in two areas.
First of all, in knowledge, or full knowledge literally. As you grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ, love abounds more and more. Secondly: and in all judgment; This word has to do with sensitivity, that you would have a sensitivity of what's right and wrong, rather than being deceived.
Philippians 1:10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;
The word approve means to put it to the test. It's approval after testing. He says I want you to grow in love, in knowledge, and in judgement, so that you can put things to the test and come to a determination and a decision about the things that are excellent verses those things that are false.
Another purpose is that you may be sincere and without offence. This has to do with putting water in some kind of clear container and holding it up to the sun in order to see the elements that are in the water. So, what he's saying here is that sincerity means that you're just an open book. You're held up to the word. You're held up to the light. You have nothing to hide. Everything's out in the open. He says I want you to approve the things that are excellent so that you may be sincere and without offence until the day of Christ.
Philippians 1:16 - The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, which is the word for pure. Their motives are not pure when they are preaching the gospel.
Philippians 1:6 - Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Notice how it says being confident? It's actually a Perfect Tense, having become confident. Why? Because they've been in fellowship with the gospel from the first day until now. They've been in fellowship with the gospel, so confidently Paul can say about this very thing that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform, literally complete it, until the day of Jesus Christ:
That's quite a promise. But he didn't say that for all people. He says because you have been in the word from the first day until now, I can tell you that God's promise to you is that whatever work He began in you, He's going to complete it until Christ comes.
He didn't say for all people who profess to be Christians because not all professing Christians are saved, especially in our religious system in our country. So, the confidence comes because they've been in the word since the first day they were saved.
Philippians 1:7 - Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace.
This is the second time the word fellowship is found in this section. Partakers is the word for fellowship.
Philippians 1:8 - For God is my record, how greatly I long after you all in the bowels of Jesus Christ.
For God is my record, or more literally witness, how greatly I long after you all in the bowels of Jesus Christ. The Greeks, when they wrote, they used the internal organs of the body to express the reality of their affections. He's trying to say it's not surface.
(Philippians Part 1): Written to the church in Philippi which became the first European city to receive the gospel. The focus of Philippians is on the unity of fellowship.
Philippians 1:1 - Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:
Timotheus is the transliteration of the Greek word for Timothy. Paul and Timotheus, the servants, or literally slaves of Jesus Christ, and I think it's interesting that Paul does not introduce himself with his apostolic authority. He says Timothy and I and we're slaves, because he's ministering about fellowship.
There's nobody in high rank in fellowship. Everyone is the servant and slave of all. Paul presents himself, and even though he's an apostle, he presents himself as a slave!
And again, the word saints, every believer in Christ is titled a saint. The word saint means set apart. It's the same word that's used for holy in the term Holy Spirit. What he's saying is, "to all the set apart ones in Jesus Christ, who are in Philippi."
But then he adds leadership to this. He says with the bishops and deacons. The word bishop (EPISKOPOS) sounds like Episcopalian. Well, that's where we get Episcopalian from. EPI, and SKOPOS means overseer. EPI means over, and SKOPOS means scope, to scope over or to be an overseer of a church. It's applied to pastors and all leaders that are in positions of overseeing the entire fellowship of believers.
The word deacon itself, DIAKONOS means a waiter, like in a restaurant. A deacon is the expression and an extension of the pastoral or ministry leadership in the church, in that they take care of waiting on and taking care of the physical elements in the church or in people's lives which gives the pastors/overseers freedom to study the word and pray.
Day 19 January 19, 2025 Philippians 2:3-4 KJV West Angeles Church Consecration Calendar
Me being a member at West Angeles Cogic Church Cathedral Los Angeles California
Philippians 2:3 KJV
My interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
" Having faith and prayer to get what you want.Render and reverence things that are sincere. Sincere- pure, real. Philippians 1:10 KJV. I am a example of cordial and sincere.(oral tradition) Romans 12:10 KJV
My life as Christian helps others in being services To become like God
Always performaning righteousness, holiness in actions "to do it"
Jesus Christ is God John 14:6 KJV, Romans 10:9-10 KJV Reason and Truth.
The Spirit of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only way to divine healing.
Being" clothed in Christ " through baptism means that a person is covered by Christ (covering). "
These are Reverence amd render scriptures you can apply to be on your own Romans 13:1 KJV, 1 Peter 2:13,1 Corinthians 13:4-5 KJV.
Philippians 2:4 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
"Believing in God showing yourself as Christian how to help. To have faith Ephesians 2:8,10 KJV.
Showing yourself mind of Christ-like-minded to one another Example of a Quote define Unity. One example of a guaranteed result is abolish of selfish.
Honor of Christ
Prayer
Obedience
Peace of Christian Church
Embaracing teaching of Jesus, Seeking stillness before God, relying on the power of prayer, trusting in his constant presence.
Thank you GiGi. We can indeed rest fully in the promises to us in His Word, "being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ" ( Philippians 1:6). Where the religions of this world will surely fail, 'God's Promises in Jesus are yea, and in Him, Amen'. Blessings to you and your dear ones. I continue to remember your sons & their wives in prayer for His mighty revelation & conviction in them.
In your patience possess ye your souls. ( Luke 21:19).
"Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain." ( James 5:7).
There are many verses on the subject of patience or longsuffering both related to God and His approved servants who eventually enter into their reward. There is no doubt that God honors those who persevere but we also need to recall the situation of Lot who as 2 Peter 2:7 states ...And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked". We don't want to be too comfortable with evil around us and in particular become compromised to maintain a lifestyle of ease. As we see with Lot his choice to enter the well watered lowlands looked good when he split up from Abraham but in the end he escaped literally from the flames with the collateral damage of what happened to his wife.
Patience therefore with our own sin can't be tolerated. We also are to sound our voice as a trumpet as Jeremiah did and the other Prophets. God patiently endures vessels fitted for destruction ( Romans 9:22; read on to verse 23). Wickedness will not be tolerated in God's Kingdom when He reigns on earth after He comes again. We need to see that God is refining us through the wickedness of sinners opposed to us and generally in rebellion that we see all around us. We don't know who is going to come to Christ and also we should keep in mind John 15:2 and 2 Timothy 2:21 where the branches we possess as believers can be purged or other useless appendages cut out from sinful connections to our dead past that we hang on to.
God will complete the work He has started ( Philippians 1:6). He will see all His sheep who hear His voice eventually enter heaven and safe pasture; and all the goats will be judged.
These earthly trials will soon be over; let us encourage one another until He comes.
If you truly accepted Christ as savior you have Salvation "Eternal life".
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that
hath not the Son of God hath not life. These
things have I written unto you that believe on the
name of the Son of God, that ye may know that ye
have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the
name of the Son of God. ( 1 John 5:12, 13)
Let me share a article on the subject from J Vernon Mcgee.
Part 1.
Can we know experientially that we are saved and that we are the children of God? For years, my soul was tossed on the troubled sea of uncertainty and insecurity. Finally, there dawned upon my darkened mind the light of Philippians 1:6 -
Being confident of this very thing, that he who hath begun a good work in you will perform [perfect] it until the day of Jesus Christ.
It was then that the sun of Scripture rose with many shafts of light and penetrated the dark recesses of fears and doubts. I pray that I may be given wisdom and power to convey to your fearful heart the assurance of your salvation, if it is not already your present possession. For those who have experienced the assurance of salvation, perhaps these few words will stabilize and strengthen the fabric of your faith. Assurance is your rightful possession, and God wants you to have it as your portion.
First of all, we need to distinguish between one's eternal security and his assurance of salvation. The line of demarcation must be clearly drawn if we are to enter experientially into the joy of salvation.
Hello Tdianne. Just to give you two further portions of Scripture to add to brother S. Spencer's reply, please look at Luke 23:42,43 and Luke 16:19-31. The first speaks about the criminal hanging next to Jesus on the Cross, who turned to Jesus for salvation. And Jesus' Word of assurance to him was that upon his death he would join Jesus in Heaven. The criminal's body would lie in a grave or be burned, but his spirit would return to God & an eternity in Heaven because of his faith.
And in Luke 16, Jesus gives a real account of what takes place in the after life, prior to His death on the Cross to pay for our sins. Both the rich man & the beggar Lazarus had died and both ended up in Hell, one in a place of eternal suffering & the other in a place of comfort & rest. Both were very much conscious of their surroundings, their pain & the reason for being where they were sent; with the plea by the rich man to have his five brothers alerted to this awful destiny, that they might repent before it was too late.
So both these accounts, even by the witness of Jesus Himself, shows us that our bodies might lie in the grave, or even not exist over the passage of time, but the real you (your spirit) which was once clothed in an ageing deteriorating body, moves instantly to a destiny appointed by God. If one is 'absent in the body' (i.e. our spirit has left they body), then that spirit, if saved through Jesus' shed Blood, goes immediately into the Lord's Presence. And that is why the Apostle Paul was assured in his spirit that the transition from death to his presence with the Lord was instantaneous ( 2 Corinthians 5:6-8). And he also told the Philippian believers ( Philippians 1:21-24) that he longed to be with Christ, but his work on Earth had not finished & also his care of the Church. But he was ready to go at any time the Lord called him, so even persecution & resulting death would mean an early entrance into Heaven. A great joy for him - and should be for us who believe.
Philippians 1:21 states that to live is Christ and to die is gain. I had always associated this with Paul's upcoming knowledge of martyrdom and applied it to our own dying to self and readiness to give our lives for the Gospel's sake. One could possibly apply this to our eternal promise of rapture and resurrection which will occur at a specific place and time.
Those who view this event as primarily a method of escape perhaps I could describe as someone who eats a wedding cake and describes it as sweet. The depth of meaning here is the joy of the reunion of the saints; but it also is only relatable to those who are now seated in heavenly places and having regular discourse and communications with the Lord and therefore hear His voice.
For a believer; of course there is anticipation of an escape from a fallen body and a final death blow to any possibility of sin to ever mar the experience of fellowship with the Lord forevermore. There is an escape from a fallen world and of course the horrors of the Tribulation and God's wrath to come. As to His unexpected arrival; I can't help remembering Sept 11 2001 which was a nice sunny day in my part of the country as well as at ground zero in all the places which were attacked. Some have theorized that as we go up there will come down missiles and or demons. For the first seal to come afterwards it would seem that whatever accompanies the rapture will appear to be some sort of utopian dream at first which would relate to the confirming of the Daniel 9:27 covenant.
The best way I can describe what I believe to be this experience as to those participating in it will be an indescribably powerful surge of the Holy Spirit that translates us from our terrestrial to celestial bodies where God's church that is now being used to hold back the evil to come through the particular ministry of the Spirit being removed.
Describing this reunion with long deceased believers and with the Lord is beyond words.
All truth is in God's WORD destroying the WORKS of SATAN.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into and ANGEL OF LIGHT
Matthew 12:28 If I (TRUTH) cast out devils by the Spirit of God, theis the KINGDOM of GOD has come unto you.
God does his work in AGES, there has been AGES before the AGE we are currently in, and there are AGES to come.
IN the AGE we are a presently in God is calling out a priesthood to be judges of those those billions who never heard the gospel of the kingdom of God, and the ones that did hear, but died in ignorance of the TRUTH.
Those who are CAUSED to BELIEVE his words will be set over those raised at the second resurrection to JUDGE them by the TRUTH of God's word, as we have been judged by the truth of God's word.
Psalms 22:27 ALL the ends of the earth shall REMEMBER and turn unto the Lord: ALL the kindreds of the earth shall WORSHIP before thee.
Psalms 22:29 And they that be fat upon the earth (the called out) shall eat and WORSHIP (in TRUTH and SPIRIT), and they that go down to the dust (death and the grave) shall BOW BEFORE HIM: and NONE can keep alive his own soul.
1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the SAVIOR OF ALL MEN (most in the AGES to come), especially of those that BELIEVE (in this AGE).
Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is GIVEN (gifted) on the behalf of CHRIST to not only BELIEVE on him, but also to suffer for his sake,
Obadiah 1:21 And SAVIORS (those that have become the image of Christ) shall come upon mount Zion to JUDGE the house of ESAU, and the kingdom shall be the LORDS
You and I never had the discussion on ridding the sin nature.
You never asked me anything on the topic.
I was making mention of you being in the debate with someone else.
Then several joined!
That topic branched over into several topics.
This is why I said I am aware of your stance on this and I didn't want to re-visit it.
Besides that, my post has nothing to do with whether one can loose his or her sin "NATURE"
Momsage
When we're talking about sin we're talking about "transgression of the law of God.and this is not JUST breaking any of the commands of God,
IT'S NOT ONLY SPEAKING OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.
However you described Justification as I do.
Justification is freely given to us through faith in Christ, therefore we have an atonement. Sanctification Is also a work of God! Philippians 1:6
Nowhere in scripture it says Justification or Sanctification rids us of our FLESH/SIN NATURE.
They do rid us the penalty of our sins! Past, Present, and future.
And Sanctification rids ys of the love of sin.
Anything we do that is not of the spirit is sin!
Now we're perfectly justified we have the Holy Spirit that prompts us to do God's will but we have a nature that combats God's will and that nature never leaves us.
God is Holy and perfect. He doesn't has to resist any evil.
We're imperfect. We have emotional sin that we resist everyday because we have a nature in this body of sin that the Holyspirit deals with daily.
When we're talking about "SIN NATURE" this can be anything that our flesh prompts us to do something that the Spirit has not.
Winning the battle over our sin nature doesn't mean we got rid of it.
We can do something that appears to be a good deed on the outside but on the inside it's for praise, that's also caused by our sin nature.
God shares his praise and Glory with no man.
You can tell me how wonderful I am to be kind towards me, but if you don't truly feel that way then it's a lie.
A Christian street evangelist was demonstrating outside a city amphitheater. He was part of a group of individuals heckling concert goers through a megaphone, calling them "whores," "sissies," and "Jezebels."
Taking the above into consideration, it does not appear that the two quotes are compatible by any rational standard.
There is a contingent of Christians, at least in name, who have arrived at a biblically skewed conclusion that the ministry of the Gospel of Christ Jesus includes harassing, denigrating, insulting, and otherwise badgering the lost. This attitude could not be further from our biblical calling.
The Bible provides precise instructions on how to conduct ourselves when occupied in the ministry of the Gospel: preaching, witnessing, and otherwise engaging with the lost. None of which includes calling them "whores," "sissies," and "Jezebels." The servant of the Lord must:
Not Strive
Be Gentle
Be Apt to Teach
Be Patient
In Meekness Instructing
Titus 3:2-3 To SPEAK EVIL OF NO MAN, to be NO BRAWLERS, but GENTLE, shewing all MEEKNESS unto all men. 3For WE OURSELVES ALSO were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy,
Would you have received the Gospel being harassed, denigrated, insulted, and badgered? It is reminiscent of the Inquisition, not the love and grace of God.
Philippians 1:27 Only LET YOUR CONVERSATION BE AS IT BECOMETH THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST that ye STAND FAST IN ONE SPIRIT, WITH ONE MIND STRIVING TOGETHER FOR THE FAITH OF THE GOSPEL;
To be of one mind, we all have to follow the same rules.
Colossians 3:14 And above all these things PUT ON CHARITY, which is the bond of perfectness.
James 2:8 IF YE FULFIL THE ROYAL LAW according to the scripture, Thou shalt LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF,...
It is however true, that if a believer should succumb to the enemy's temptations and does not take remedial action as the Holy Spirit directs, then there will be loss. Not a loss of the Holy Spirit or salvation, but the loss of sweet communion, maybe of some degree of estrangement if sin is allowed to persist, and of the Spirit's intervention by way of warning or discipline. Or the Spirit might even allow that erring soul to taste the depravity of his/her sin, so that they may come to their senses, repent, and be restored; the story of the prodigal son is a good example of a poor choice made and yet, of a waiting loving father who is ready to forgive, receive, and restore ( Luke 15:11-32).
Just a few verses to consider (and there are many more): John 10:26-29; Romans 8:33-39; Ephesians 1:13,14; Ephesians 2:8-10; Philippians 1:6; 1 Peter 1:3-5; Jude 1:24,25.
This is why we often read of the apostles encouraging believers to be on guard against the enemy of our souls, of sin creeping into the life, and not being involved in anything that even smells of sin; Why? Not for salvation's loss, but for suffering under God's Hand of discipline and the pain of estrangement from God.
Why should we entertain anything that breaks our special love relationship with our God & Savior & bring on ourselves sorrow upon sorrow? The Holy Spirit will always alert us when we err and will always bring us back, so salvation cannot be lost. But for those who feel no sorrow or estrangement when they stray, they do not have the Holy Spirit within them and are not saved. But while they have breath, there remains hope if they draw near to God, He will draw near to them. GBU.
It seems the scriptures you gathered argues against your point.
To begin with Matthew 24:13 I don't know about you but I wont believe around during that period of time.
However if you are and you happen to endure it will be because of the blood of the Lamb.
Revelation 12:10-11.
If you believe you can do it any other way you are already recieved!
You would be using the same filthy flesh that have you in bondage to cleanse yourself with.
Also; You brought up Hebrews 12:7.
Hebrews 12:7 argues against your point!
Hebrews 12:5-10 reads
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, THAT WE MIGHT BE PARTAKERS OF HIS HOLINESS.
We have a father that promises to never leave us and keeps us in line even unto death!
Paul says in Philippians 1:6
"Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
James 1:12 reads "Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
"When he is tried" in this verse is when he is MADE acceptable.
The verse says Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: "FOR OR BECAUSE" WHEN HE IS TRIED,
Example.
Zachariah 13:9.
Isaiah 48:9-11.
Blessings
Grace and Peace
Beautifully written, thanks.
I think we're pretty close with this one...
Here's my take!
Paul never teaches that believers in the Body of Christ can lose salvation, though some verses are misread that way. For example, 1 Corinthians 9:27 warns of being a "castaway," but Paul is referring to disqualification from reward or service, not loss of eternal life. In Galatians 5:4, "fallen from grace" means leaving the principle of grace for law-keeping, not forfeiting salvation. 2 Corinthians 13:5 calls for self-examination of genuine faith, not teaching that salvation can be undone. Likewise, Colossians 1:23 emphasizes perseverance as evidence of true faith.
In contrast, Paul repeatedly assures believers of eternal security. Romans 8:38-39 declares that nothing can separate us from Christ's love. Ephesians 1:13-14 teaches that believers are sealed with the Spirit until redemption. Philippians 1:6 promises that God will complete His saving work. 2 Timothy 1:12 affirms Christ's power to keep what is entrusted to Him. Romans 11:29 states that God's gifts and calling are without repentance.
Thus, the "warning" passages deal with reward, service, and testimony, while Paul's consistent teaching is that salvation itself is secure in Christ.
God Bless.
2 Corinthians 1:21,22: God has established us in Christ, anointed us, as sealed us with the guarantee of the Spirit, and is certainly not going to let us go. Also Ephesians 1:3-14.
Ephesians 2:8,9: it is only by God's Grace, as His Gift, that we are saved. If we are saved any other way, it is according to our way of salvation - not God's, which is endures & secures.
Philippians 1:6: If God has begun His Work in us, we can be confident He will always continue to work in us by His Spirit till the day we see Jesus in His Glory.
Jude 1:24: God alone can keep us from falling & present us faultless when we see Him.
A few verses that should teach us & assure us that the one who is truly is in Christ is truly secure forever. He will neither want to leave this most valuable Holy Faith, nor even be persuaded to do so even under the threat of death - for our lives are new, seated in the heavenly places, no longer of the Earth, hidden with Christ in God.
(Part 2):
So, what is salvation? For me, salvation happened the moment I received Christ and His Spirit came into my spirit. That was a one-time event. I can only be born of His Spirit once. But like you, I also see salvation as past, present, and future. In other words, I was saved, I am being saved, and in the end, I will be saved.
I'm looking at Philippians 1:6 which reads, "Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:"
The first thing I notice is that Paul says, "being confident." This is actually a Perfect Tense which should read "having become confident." Paul can confidently say about this very thing that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform (literally complete it), until the day of Jesus Christ. God's promise to us is that whatever work He began in us, He's going to complete it until Christ comes. That's how permanent our salvation is!
I also agree that when we receive Jesus through faith, our sins are forgiven, we are justified by faith, and covered with a white garment, clean and pure. We are covered in the righteousness of Christ. He (Jesus) is pure and clean ( Philippians 3:9).
Please notice that I didn't use the word "accept." I'm not sure if you knew this or not, but the bible never tells us to accept Jesus. It does tell us to receive Him ( John 1:12). I don't mean to be fastidious, but in my mind, there's a difference between the words accept and receive, especially when it comes to Christ. To accept just means to mentally agree with something, or someone. We must receive Him.
Amen! Your prayer touches deeply - thank you for sharing it with such sincerity and boldness. I stand in agreement with you in the mighty name of Jesus.
I, too, have been learning to thank the Lord not only for the blessings, but also for the trials - because it's in the fire that our faith is refined. Recently, I've been asking God the same: to align my will with His, even when I don't understand the path. It takes courage to say, "Lord, I trust You - even when it's hard."
Just like you, I've placed my steps, my studies, and my family into His hands. And yes - I declare victory, not because of my strength, but because His Word never fails.
Philippians 1:6 reminds me: "He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus."
So I will press on, with faith and expectation, because if God called us, He will equip us.
So it is. And so shall it be. In Jesus' name.
Does God heal today ? ?
God will take away some of our gifts and replace it with the word of truth.
1 Corinthians 13:8
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shallcease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
We now have the word of truth .
1 Corinthians 13:10
But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall bedoneaway.
Apostle Paul wants us to pray in the Holy Spirit.
Praying always with allprayerand supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
We should always gift thanks to the Father in Heaven before we ask .
Philippians 4:6
Be careful for nothing; but in every thing byprayerand supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
We should pray to do no evil.
2 Corinthians 13:7
Now Iprayto God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.
We should pray for knowledge.
Philippians 1:9
And this Ipray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;
We should pray always everyday.
1 Thessalonians 5:17
Praywithout ceasing.
God want us to pray for everything in life.
1 Timothy 2:8
I will therefore that menprayevery where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Galatians 4:14
And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus
Apostle Paul might not be a angel , but he was the hardest working Apostle in history and we had the Twelve Apostles for the Jews.
1 Corinthians 15:9-10
9For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
10But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
We that are saved will be judging angels.
1 Corinthians 6:3
Know ye not that we shall judgeangels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
The only angel to be careful of is Satan himself.
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into anangelof light.
All Apostle Paul wants us to do is follow the gospel of grace in his Epistles.
Philippians 1:7
Even as it is meet for me to think thisofyou all, because I have you in my heart; in as much as both in my bonds, and in the defence and confirmationofthegospel, ye all are partakersofmygrace
May we know the Gospel of Grace in Apostle Paul's epistle.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Angels in Heaven believe that the Gospel of Grace is true for Salvation.
Thanks for responding and clearing that up.
As for eternal security, I believe Everlasting life is everlasting and that begins the moment you are saved!
I believe a child of God has been Justified by the redemptive blood of Christ, he's being sanctified by the Spirit of Christ and he will be glorified.
Philippians 1:6 "Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
There's not a verse that can all set that.
A born-again Christian can not be un-born.
It's the Lord that sees them through..
An ungenerated person miss the mark which is perfection.
The blood of Christ is an atonement! (A covering for our imperfections)
If you can loose your salvation you were never covered.
If you can't perform perfection to get saved how are you going to perform ot to stay saved if it depends on your fleshly works?
I thought it was the shepherds duty to keep the sheep safe.
Not only from the wolf but also from himself.
Jesus is the great shepherd and if a sheep wander off and get lost he goes out and finds him.
As for Matthew 24:13. that's not applied to the Church and is not an endurance for Salvation.
As you know we have different eschatology views so I won't get into that here.
If you can earn Salvation you can loose it.
No one can earn it.
Blessings
Apostle Peter explained how the prophets searched for the grace of God but couldn't find it and here God gave it to Apostle Paul to write.
1 Peter 1:10
Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of thegracethat should come unto you:
Jude warns the believing Jews to be careful with false brethren with fake grace.
Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning thegraceof our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
The Philippines are partakers of Apostle Paul's grace. That means we are to take notice of Paul's grace given to him.
Philippians 1:7
Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defence and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace.
Apostle Paul only wanted to spread the Gospel of Grace to the Jews first and then the Gentiles.
Acts 20:24
But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of thegraceof God.
Apostle Paul's epistle is where we find grace for today.
Romans 3:24
Being justified freely by hisgracethrough the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
May we enjoy our free grace from the ascended Lord Jesus Christ in the third Heaven.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Grace is free by just believing the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ only .
Now that we are in Christ, let's not ever forget the blood of Jesus Christ .
Ephesians 2:13
But nowinChristJesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood ofChrist.
Jews and Gentiles in the same body in Christ.
Ephesians 3:6
That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promiseinChristby the gospel:
Bishops and Deacons are in Christ.
Philippians 1:1
Paul and Timotheus, the servants of JesusChrist, to all the saintsinChristJesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:
We work for a prize in Christ.
Philippians 3:14
I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of GodinChristJesus.
Our faith in Christ.
Colossians 2:5
For though I be absentinthe flesh, yet am I with youinthe spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faithinChrist.
We are in Christ and Christ is in God. God and Christ are one .
Colossians 3:3
For ye are dead, and your life is hid withChristinGod.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Philippians 1:14-17
14And many of the brethren in the Lord, waxing confident by my bonds, are much more bold to speak the word without fear.
15Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
16The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
17But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
As a Christians, we are always going to offend others, because they are always ready to point it out. Satan and his followers will always accuse us of all our sins to God.
Revelation 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for theaccuserof our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
But there hope, it's Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour.
Titus 2:13
Looking for thatblessedhope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
The Holy Spirit inside us is a wonderful joy and I want to spread that joy to others.
Galatians 5:22-25
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
The joy of the Resurrection of Christ Jesus
Thank you for your message and may the Lord bless you and yours also. Like you, I am also still learning. Learning never stops. I agree, Paul seems to be the most prominent of the Apostles.
I would just like to touch on a couple things. Something I find interesting with 2 Thessalonians 2:2 is that the oldest manuscripts do not say the day of Christ. They say the day of the Lord, the same phrase we see in 1 Thessalonians 5:2. My understanding is that the day of the Lord is not talking about a specific day but a time period that God has set apart for judgment.
Indeed, Philippians 1:11 is an important verse. My understanding of being "filled with the Holy Spirit" is when God's Spirit which dwells in me takes over my faculties. As a believer, I have 100% of God's Spirit in me at all times but I am not always being filled with the Holy Spirit. There are times where even though I have the fulness of His Spirit in me, I am off doing my own thing. Also, if I have God's Spirit in me, I am and will bear fruit. It is impossible for a believer to be born of God's Spirit and not bear fruit.
I like what you're saying about Philippians 1:18. That was Paul's approach to the hardships he went through. The word rejoice means satisfaction. I'm sure Paul was not happy that people were causing division in the fellowship in the body of Christ, but even through the hardship and division, Christ was being preached which gave him satisfaction and allowed him to keep the unity of the fellowship in the bond of peace.
Thanks again and God Bless!!!
This is my little study in what I see in the verses.
Part 1. Philippians 1:1
I find it interesting that the Bible mentions bishop in Apostle Paul's epistle more . Apostle Peter only mentioned once.
Part 2. Philippians 1:6,7,8
I find it interesting to hear the word " day of Jesus Christ " . To me the Day of Christ would be the meeting in the clouds. 2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Part 3. Philippians 1:9,10,16
I find verse 11 to be very important to grow in grace, for we need to be fill with the Holy Spirit to bear fruits to good works in Christ Jesus. " Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God. "
Part 4. Philippians 1:18, 19
I love verse 18, no matter what happens in life, we must all preach Jesus Christ gospel of grace . 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Part 5. Philippians 1:27, 30
I love verse 27, our conversation should always be the gospel of Christ Jesus.
Philippians 1:21
is one my favorite verse, because when things get bad, the easy way out is to die, but there is hope for strength in Jesus Christ to continue in the grace of the gospel .
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 my gospel of the grace of God
Philippians 1:27 - Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;
He says only let your conversation, which is the word citizenship. The word conversation is the word citizenship. Only let your citizenship be as it becomes the gospel of Christ:
The word becomes means worthy. Again, the balance scales in the markets. You put an item on one side that you want to purchase, and you have to put money on the other side to where it equals out. And Paul is saying let your life equal out to the ministry of the gospel and truth of Jesus Christ, that whether I come to see you, or be absent, I may hear of your affairs.
Here's what he wants to hear: Number one, that you stand firm. That's the same message from back in Ephesians. In one spirit, in one mind (literally soul), while striving together for the faith of the gospel; The term striving together is the word SUNATHLETOS, SUN (pronounced soon) for with, and ATHLETOS for the word athletic.
You function together as a team for the furtherance of the gospel. No division. You're under the influence of the same Spirit. You're like one soul. You're like one person rather than a bunch of individuals.
Philippians 1:30 - Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me.
Having the same conflict, and that's the word agony. Having the same agony which you saw in me, and now you hear to be in me. Paul says you want to know what it looks like, what I just told you about believing and suffering? It's the same agony that you see in my life, as I, like an athlete, battle with the opponent all day long. That's not just God's will for Paul. That's for every believer!
Philippians 1:18 - What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
We know what the rejoice means. It means satisfied. Obviously, Paul's not happy that people are coming between him and other people and there's a division happening in the fellowship in the body of Christ. But he has to be satisfied with it all because in the midst of it all, Christ is being preached. And all the things that are wrong about what these other people are doing, Christ is being preached!
So, he says that's my satisfaction. That also saves him from growing bitter against those who are treating him unjustly, and it allows him to keep the fellowship, the unity of the fellowship in the bond of peace.
Philippians 1:19 - For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,
I'd like to share some technical information that I have learned. The term to my salvation is literally "for me for salvation." You might ask what's the difference? It's not Paul's salvation. But he knows that in his situation, it's going to be for him for the preaching of the gospel and the salvation of other people.
But notice that it's through two things: Through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ. There you go. The fellowship of believers that are bonded together through prayer, and the supply of God's Spirit, that's it. That's all you need!
Philippians 1:9 - And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;
Notice that he didn't pray that they would get love. A genuine believer already has love, the AGAPE love, because God is love. If you have Christ living in you, you have His love. He says that it might abound yet more and more. And notice that it's in two areas.
First of all, in knowledge, or full knowledge literally. As you grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ, love abounds more and more. Secondly: and in all judgment; This word has to do with sensitivity, that you would have a sensitivity of what's right and wrong, rather than being deceived.
Philippians 1:10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;
The word approve means to put it to the test. It's approval after testing. He says I want you to grow in love, in knowledge, and in judgement, so that you can put things to the test and come to a determination and a decision about the things that are excellent verses those things that are false.
Another purpose is that you may be sincere and without offence. This has to do with putting water in some kind of clear container and holding it up to the sun in order to see the elements that are in the water. So, what he's saying here is that sincerity means that you're just an open book. You're held up to the word. You're held up to the light. You have nothing to hide. Everything's out in the open. He says I want you to approve the things that are excellent so that you may be sincere and without offence until the day of Christ.
Philippians 1:16 - The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, which is the word for pure. Their motives are not pure when they are preaching the gospel.
Philippians 1:6 - Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Notice how it says being confident? It's actually a Perfect Tense, having become confident. Why? Because they've been in fellowship with the gospel from the first day until now. They've been in fellowship with the gospel, so confidently Paul can say about this very thing that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform, literally complete it, until the day of Jesus Christ:
That's quite a promise. But he didn't say that for all people. He says because you have been in the word from the first day until now, I can tell you that God's promise to you is that whatever work He began in you, He's going to complete it until Christ comes.
He didn't say for all people who profess to be Christians because not all professing Christians are saved, especially in our religious system in our country. So, the confidence comes because they've been in the word since the first day they were saved.
Philippians 1:7 - Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace.
This is the second time the word fellowship is found in this section. Partakers is the word for fellowship.
Philippians 1:8 - For God is my record, how greatly I long after you all in the bowels of Jesus Christ.
For God is my record, or more literally witness, how greatly I long after you all in the bowels of Jesus Christ. The Greeks, when they wrote, they used the internal organs of the body to express the reality of their affections. He's trying to say it's not surface.
(Philippians Part 1): Written to the church in Philippi which became the first European city to receive the gospel. The focus of Philippians is on the unity of fellowship.
Philippians 1:1 - Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:
Timotheus is the transliteration of the Greek word for Timothy. Paul and Timotheus, the servants, or literally slaves of Jesus Christ, and I think it's interesting that Paul does not introduce himself with his apostolic authority. He says Timothy and I and we're slaves, because he's ministering about fellowship.
There's nobody in high rank in fellowship. Everyone is the servant and slave of all. Paul presents himself, and even though he's an apostle, he presents himself as a slave!
And again, the word saints, every believer in Christ is titled a saint. The word saint means set apart. It's the same word that's used for holy in the term Holy Spirit. What he's saying is, "to all the set apart ones in Jesus Christ, who are in Philippi."
But then he adds leadership to this. He says with the bishops and deacons. The word bishop (EPISKOPOS) sounds like Episcopalian. Well, that's where we get Episcopalian from. EPI, and SKOPOS means overseer. EPI means over, and SKOPOS means scope, to scope over or to be an overseer of a church. It's applied to pastors and all leaders that are in positions of overseeing the entire fellowship of believers.
The word deacon itself, DIAKONOS means a waiter, like in a restaurant. A deacon is the expression and an extension of the pastoral or ministry leadership in the church, in that they take care of waiting on and taking care of the physical elements in the church or in people's lives which gives the pastors/overseers freedom to study the word and pray.
Me being a member at West Angeles Cogic Church Cathedral Los Angeles California
Philippians 2:3 KJV
My interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
" Having faith and prayer to get what you want.Render and reverence things that are sincere. Sincere- pure, real. Philippians 1:10 KJV. I am a example of cordial and sincere.(oral tradition) Romans 12:10 KJV
My life as Christian helps others in being services To become like God
Always performaning righteousness, holiness in actions "to do it"
Jesus Christ is God John 14:6 KJV, Romans 10:9-10 KJV Reason and Truth.
The Spirit of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only way to divine healing.
Being" clothed in Christ " through baptism means that a person is covered by Christ (covering). "
These are Reverence amd render scriptures you can apply to be on your own Romans 13:1 KJV, 1 Peter 2:13,1 Corinthians 13:4-5 KJV.
Philippians 2:4 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
"Believing in God showing yourself as Christian how to help. To have faith Ephesians 2:8,10 KJV.
Showing yourself mind of Christ-like-minded to one another Example of a Quote define Unity. One example of a guaranteed result is abolish of selfish.
Honor of Christ
Prayer
Obedience
Peace of Christian Church
Embaracing teaching of Jesus, Seeking stillness before God, relying on the power of prayer, trusting in his constant presence.
Word Written and Spoken by REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
Our faith is in the sacrificial and redemptive work Christ performed on the cross!
When we are born of God: "You are in Christ
We're now Identified with Christ.
This is "Positional sanctification"
It is the work of God whereby He sets us apart and considers us holy in His eyes.
Also there is a practical Sanctification continuously going on.
We are to be growing in the Lord ( 2 Peter 3:18) or spiritual maturity. God started the work of making us like Christ, and He is continuing it.
( Philippians 1:6).
Blessings.
"Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain." ( James 5:7).
There are many verses on the subject of patience or longsuffering both related to God and His approved servants who eventually enter into their reward. There is no doubt that God honors those who persevere but we also need to recall the situation of Lot who as 2 Peter 2:7 states ...And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked". We don't want to be too comfortable with evil around us and in particular become compromised to maintain a lifestyle of ease. As we see with Lot his choice to enter the well watered lowlands looked good when he split up from Abraham but in the end he escaped literally from the flames with the collateral damage of what happened to his wife.
Patience therefore with our own sin can't be tolerated. We also are to sound our voice as a trumpet as Jeremiah did and the other Prophets. God patiently endures vessels fitted for destruction ( Romans 9:22; read on to verse 23). Wickedness will not be tolerated in God's Kingdom when He reigns on earth after He comes again. We need to see that God is refining us through the wickedness of sinners opposed to us and generally in rebellion that we see all around us. We don't know who is going to come to Christ and also we should keep in mind John 15:2 and 2 Timothy 2:21 where the branches we possess as believers can be purged or other useless appendages cut out from sinful connections to our dead past that we hang on to.
God will complete the work He has started ( Philippians 1:6). He will see all His sheep who hear His voice eventually enter heaven and safe pasture; and all the goats will be judged.
These earthly trials will soon be over; let us encourage one another until He comes.
Salvation is in a person! Our Lord Jesus Christ!
If you have Christ you have ( Eternal ) life.
That's what Christ is offering! (Eternal life!)
If you truly accepted Christ as savior you have Salvation "Eternal life".
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that
hath not the Son of God hath not life. These
things have I written unto you that believe on the
name of the Son of God, that ye may know that ye
have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the
name of the Son of God. ( 1 John 5:12, 13)
Let me share a article on the subject from J Vernon Mcgee.
Part 1.
Can we know experientially that we are saved and that we are the children of God? For years, my soul was tossed on the troubled sea of uncertainty and insecurity. Finally, there dawned upon my darkened mind the light of Philippians 1:6 -
Being confident of this very thing, that he who hath begun a good work in you will perform [perfect] it until the day of Jesus Christ.
It was then that the sun of Scripture rose with many shafts of light and penetrated the dark recesses of fears and doubts. I pray that I may be given wisdom and power to convey to your fearful heart the assurance of your salvation, if it is not already your present possession. For those who have experienced the assurance of salvation, perhaps these few words will stabilize and strengthen the fabric of your faith. Assurance is your rightful possession, and God wants you to have it as your portion.
First of all, we need to distinguish between one's eternal security and his assurance of salvation. The line of demarcation must be clearly drawn if we are to enter experientially into the joy of salvation.
See Part 2.
( Eternal ) Salvation.
And in Luke 16, Jesus gives a real account of what takes place in the after life, prior to His death on the Cross to pay for our sins. Both the rich man & the beggar Lazarus had died and both ended up in Hell, one in a place of eternal suffering & the other in a place of comfort & rest. Both were very much conscious of their surroundings, their pain & the reason for being where they were sent; with the plea by the rich man to have his five brothers alerted to this awful destiny, that they might repent before it was too late.
So both these accounts, even by the witness of Jesus Himself, shows us that our bodies might lie in the grave, or even not exist over the passage of time, but the real you (your spirit) which was once clothed in an ageing deteriorating body, moves instantly to a destiny appointed by God. If one is 'absent in the body' (i.e. our spirit has left they body), then that spirit, if saved through Jesus' shed Blood, goes immediately into the Lord's Presence. And that is why the Apostle Paul was assured in his spirit that the transition from death to his presence with the Lord was instantaneous ( 2 Corinthians 5:6-8). And he also told the Philippian believers ( Philippians 1:21-24) that he longed to be with Christ, but his work on Earth had not finished & also his care of the Church. But he was ready to go at any time the Lord called him, so even persecution & resulting death would mean an early entrance into Heaven. A great joy for him - and should be for us who believe.
Those who view this event as primarily a method of escape perhaps I could describe as someone who eats a wedding cake and describes it as sweet. The depth of meaning here is the joy of the reunion of the saints; but it also is only relatable to those who are now seated in heavenly places and having regular discourse and communications with the Lord and therefore hear His voice.
For a believer; of course there is anticipation of an escape from a fallen body and a final death blow to any possibility of sin to ever mar the experience of fellowship with the Lord forevermore. There is an escape from a fallen world and of course the horrors of the Tribulation and God's wrath to come. As to His unexpected arrival; I can't help remembering Sept 11 2001 which was a nice sunny day in my part of the country as well as at ground zero in all the places which were attacked. Some have theorized that as we go up there will come down missiles and or demons. For the first seal to come afterwards it would seem that whatever accompanies the rapture will appear to be some sort of utopian dream at first which would relate to the confirming of the Daniel 9:27 covenant.
The best way I can describe what I believe to be this experience as to those participating in it will be an indescribably powerful surge of the Holy Spirit that translates us from our terrestrial to celestial bodies where God's church that is now being used to hold back the evil to come through the particular ministry of the Spirit being removed.
Describing this reunion with long deceased believers and with the Lord is beyond words.
Agape.
All truth is in God's WORD destroying the WORKS of SATAN.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into and ANGEL OF LIGHT
Matthew 12:28 If I (TRUTH) cast out devils by the Spirit of God, theis the KINGDOM of GOD has come unto you.
God does his work in AGES, there has been AGES before the AGE we are currently in, and there are AGES to come.
IN the AGE we are a presently in God is calling out a priesthood to be judges of those those billions who never heard the gospel of the kingdom of God, and the ones that did hear, but died in ignorance of the TRUTH.
Those who are CAUSED to BELIEVE his words will be set over those raised at the second resurrection to JUDGE them by the TRUTH of God's word, as we have been judged by the truth of God's word.
Psalms 22:27 ALL the ends of the earth shall REMEMBER and turn unto the Lord: ALL the kindreds of the earth shall WORSHIP before thee.
Psalms 22:29 And they that be fat upon the earth (the called out) shall eat and WORSHIP (in TRUTH and SPIRIT), and they that go down to the dust (death and the grave) shall BOW BEFORE HIM: and NONE can keep alive his own soul.
1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the SAVIOR OF ALL MEN (most in the AGES to come), especially of those that BELIEVE (in this AGE).
Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is GIVEN (gifted) on the behalf of CHRIST to not only BELIEVE on him, but also to suffer for his sake,
Obadiah 1:21 And SAVIORS (those that have become the image of Christ) shall come upon mount Zion to JUDGE the house of ESAU, and the kingdom shall be the LORDS
God Bless You
Part 1
You and I never had the discussion on ridding the sin nature.
You never asked me anything on the topic.
I was making mention of you being in the debate with someone else.
Then several joined!
That topic branched over into several topics.
This is why I said I am aware of your stance on this and I didn't want to re-visit it.
Besides that, my post has nothing to do with whether one can loose his or her sin "NATURE"
Momsage
When we're talking about sin we're talking about "transgression of the law of God.and this is not JUST breaking any of the commands of God,
IT'S NOT ONLY SPEAKING OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.
However you described Justification as I do.
Justification is freely given to us through faith in Christ, therefore we have an atonement. Sanctification Is also a work of God! Philippians 1:6
Nowhere in scripture it says Justification or Sanctification rids us of our FLESH/SIN NATURE.
They do rid us the penalty of our sins! Past, Present, and future.
And Sanctification rids ys of the love of sin.
Anything we do that is not of the spirit is sin!
Now we're perfectly justified we have the Holy Spirit that prompts us to do God's will but we have a nature that combats God's will and that nature never leaves us.
God is Holy and perfect. He doesn't has to resist any evil.
We're imperfect. We have emotional sin that we resist everyday because we have a nature in this body of sin that the Holyspirit deals with daily.
When we're talking about "SIN NATURE" this can be anything that our flesh prompts us to do something that the Spirit has not.
Winning the battle over our sin nature doesn't mean we got rid of it.
We can do something that appears to be a good deed on the outside but on the inside it's for praise, that's also caused by our sin nature.
God shares his praise and Glory with no man.
You can tell me how wonderful I am to be kind towards me, but if you don't truly feel that way then it's a lie.
See part 2.