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Dear Tim,

2 Corinthians 5:10 seems to say we will be judged for our sins.

And 1 John 1:6-10 says Christians sin, but we need to confess them and if we claim we don't sin then we accuse Jesus of being a liar and the word isn't in us.

So, because of these scriptures I believe we will be judged for our sins. We need to try hard to avoid sin. There's currently some fake news spreading around claiming that it's ok for Christians to sin and be of the world, but that info doesn't come from God. Matthew 10:28, Matthew 5:48, Hebrews 10:26.

God bless...

"Thank you, Jesus!!!"

Jim,

Yes, Jesus is deserving of praise. You do well to praise Him and realize that He is all you need. I agree that He died for all. There are many places in scripture that show that Christ shed His blood for all and that salvation is offered to all who will receive Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. You quoted Part of John 3:16, but here are a few other verses that agree with what you are saying: 1 Timothy 4:10, 1 John 4:14, 1 John 2:2, John 1:29, John 4:42, Hebrews 10:10, Romans 6:10, Hebrews 9:26, Hebrews 9:12.

So you are correct in saying that Jesus suffered and died for all, but unfortunately not all will receive Him. From what you are saying, I can assume that you've received Christ. Continue to praise Him and always keep Him first in your heart and life. God bless!

That's not really an issue. All people have a responsibility to seek a relationship with God through the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

Some people settle for a religion. Beliefs and Good Works May distract you from entering into a RELATIONSHIP with the Savior: who promises eternal life upon being born again. As it is clearly set forth in John chapter 3.

Your spirit is not even alive unto God, until Jesus Christ's life is made alive in you by making the confession in John 3. Write it down: that's the date you were born again. Your spirit is connected to God through Jesus.

To pray, confess sins (we all need to; nobody is perfect yet). Run to 1 John 8-10.

Hebrews 4:16, Hebrews 7:25,

Hebrews 10: 19-23 & Hebrews 10:25

We go to church or home fellowships

Acts chapter 1: 42-47. People need to hear your testimony of how you came to believe.

>"So it was not sin as long as they got married at some future point afterwards"

Hello, I'm not sure who told you that, but that doesn't come from God and isn't Biblical or true. The father of lies (satan) loves distorting the minds of Christians and encouraging them to spread falsehoods to others. Even though Christians are saved by grace sin is a big deal and should be avoided at nearly all costs. John 14:15, Matthew 5:29-30. Matthew 7:16-27, Matthew 7:26-27, Galatians 5:17, Hebrews 10:26.

Comments by Alex about the great Drops of Blood . Jesus had much anxiety and apprehension about dying for the sins of the world he prayed that the cup might be passed on someway. He prayed if it be possible take this cup from me,But the cup my father has given me shall i not drink it ( his death and suffering ) that he might bring in a new covenant ,a blood covenant, THE LAMB OF GOD. That every man might get a DROP OF BLOOD a measure of faith, a Seed that was the Word made flesh and blood. EVEN BACK IN THE O.T. WHEN THEY MADE A COVENANT IT HAD TO BE DEDICATED WITH BLOOD. Thus the great drops of blood. He knew that his death wd bring in a NEW COVENANT where all men might be saved and washed in his blood, Unto him that has loved us and has washed us from our sins in his own blood.When they piecered him out came the blood and the water symbolic of a BIRTH resulting in a Child our 1st born ,our only son which is the H.G.THEY SHALL LOOK ON ME WHOM THEY HAVE PIECERED AND MOURN FOR HIM AS OUR 1ST BORN OUR ONLY SON THIS NEW COVENANT IS A BIRTHING COVENANT WE ARE ALL GONNA BIRTH CHRIST IN OUR HEARTS AND MINDS THUS THE SON OF MAN,MANKINDS FRUIT UNTO GOD.We have been mourning for 2 days 2000 yrs for our 1st born Our only son which is the H.G. as that which is born of the spirit is spirit the H.G. A NEW INNERMAN THAT NEW HEART AND A NEW SPIRIT. Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains which resulted from the great drops of Blood his stress and anxiety BUT HE OPENED not his mouth,he kept his composure to the end. What the 1st adam destroyed ( in adam we all die,but in Christ) that 2 nd adam we will all live. life is in his Blood those great drops of Blood wd result in our Eternal life . Folks in the carnal ( flesh ) see everything in the flesh but them in the spirit see everything in the Spirit, Walk in the Spirit etc and you will not fulfil the lust of the flesh. Those great drops of blood have spritual implications a New Covenant in his blood, gbu

Hello, I believe the answer is yes. God forgives deeply. The man who authored more books of the Bible than anyone else used to murder Christians before he transformed into a strong Christian evangelist. I believe to be forgiven there needs to be genuine repentance and regret. For example, I think a Christian is on shaky ground if they intentionally repeatedly sin with the mistaken idea that they will be forgiven regardless and just try to follow the world and enjoy sin as much as possible. Lately there's even Christians spreading that idea that sin, which I believe comes from satan. There's no downside to following Jesus 'too much' or being 'too obedient'. Hebrews 10:26, John 14:23.

Trodden Underfoot meaning killed? ... For 2 Esdras 16:69?

I think the word 'end' here is similar to the word fulfill. Paul wrote Romans and is not saying it's ok to sin. We're saved by grace, but this is provided we are a Christian following Christ. Notice what Paul writes in the next chapter: Romans 11:19-23 "...if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." To me this is similar to Paul saying Romans 6:1. Warning against people who want to abuse the gift. Also similar to Hebrews 10:26. Romans 7 and James 2 explain this. Paul struggles with sin as he says in Romans 7:15 and is trying hard to obey and avoid sin. Rom 7:12 Paul says the law is holy, just and good. God bless...

Amen ! god is in control.

And, when I say "hear the Spirit" I want express this: If we are "alerted" to the sin and we obey the bible instruction to leave this sin and claim forgiveness from God in the pray (with a decision to leave the sin), He hear you and forgive you.

Hi brother. I believe in this: if we sin and we heard the Holy Spirit, we are forgiven because God is a Love God and have the mercy and compassion with us. I hope I've helped. If you want, reply this comment and we can talk about it. God bless you!

Oh but of course, indeed!

Sandi, all glory to our Lord, for He is good!

Jesse: My God, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, well penned and ministered! Praise God for this and all the other comments. Amen.

At least some christians and probably many believe that when they are sick; it is just a matter of asking God for a healing; and many expect it and some expect it, immediately; and God can do it; He has done that, many times and so did Jesus; but that did not stop the world from sinning. Jesus was crucified. So; we sin; get sick and all we have to do is asked to be healed; and If God did that every time and all the time; we would not need Doctors; but the world would still sin. So, is God still suppose to do it simply because we ask? That is up to Him; but I know I wouldn't unless I had the power; and no one has that power unless God gives it; and the healing is in His name.

When you became born again, baptized by the Holy Spirit; the demons are kicked out of you. Your house (inside of you) is swept,

Garnished.

You're supposed to follow Jesus as other disciples did: read the Bible, attend church or bible study; pray the Lord's Prayer, maybe read some spiritual warfare books; :) listen to " kingdom in the streets" CD by Dion.

These are garnishments for your spiritual house: Your body, your mind

Matthew 12:43-45. When you got saved, the demons got sent away. They study you for weaknesses (like they did to Eve in the garden). What you are experiencing is spiritual warfare. They're trying to get back in their old house... your body.

Go back and do the things you did when you first got saved. Go to 1 John 8-9, and 1 John 2:1, as often as you need to.

Satan accuses us to the Father, Jesus stands up as the Advocate (attorney for you), He finds your name recorded in his book, and declares you not guilty for lack of evidence (because He paid for your sins on the Cross).

Your faith in this will stop "them" from returning anymore.

Rich - in Reply on Hebrews 10 These are all excellent comments; and they make my heart feel good. It is not easy sometimes; but always put your faith in the lord. You pray to the lord by yourself but usually you always pray with others; at least one other; and I don't know where and when you accepted the Lord as your saviour; but when we do that; we usually go to the church where we got saved or back to the church of our parents and or where we were named or baptized. The ideas is once we accept the Lord; we usually hang around with others with strong faith in God; Our Father in Heaven as you say in the lord's prayer, which I say often and a lot of other christians do; what I did 50 years ago or more is make a commitment to carry a small Bible in my wallet; and I always followed that commitment; and I also later carry a special bigger small Bible that, I had a sentimental attachment to, on my belt; but then another person who was having some issues I thing related to his family asked me for the one on my belt; and I gave it to him although I did not want to; but then when he saw it was from someone; he said no don't give me that one as that must be special to you; and so I gave him the old almost deteriorated one that he wanted but now i have two small ones along with the old back cover back of my old 50 year one. So what you could do is go some where where you can find another Christian; preferable a priest or minister and I know that some may have a bad reputation from the past; however, most of them would never do that today; but the main thing is your faith; and they are use to dealing with people; and sometimes also; if you have other issues; then it may be time to get help there; and a priest or minister and or another man of God and family usually can help there; but what ever you do; don't ever lose faith in God; know that He loves you; and his word is that He will always stand by us, we must never give up, Others can help us c He is there. So, why not go C

Rich,

I think there are many believers who at one point or another have had that same feeling of doubt about their salvation. I know I have. Is it possible that you are trying to deal with your circumstances on your own, and not trusting in the Lord? Once a person receives Christ, they need to be mended. We come to the Lord broken, and we call out to Him to save us, and to mend us. Our past will never leave us. It will always be stuck in the cortex of our brain. But we have to trust Christ. Being mended is a lifetime process my friend. But Christ will mend you. You just have to trust Him. There are some things you said that stand out. You say you don't feel you have that closeness with the Lord that you used to have, your prayers feel like they are not getting through, and don't feel saved. You used the word "feel" three times. Those are fleshly terms, not spiritual. Feelings are human senses and emotions. How do you feel Spirit? You can't feel Spirit. Whether or not you "feel" saved, you're still saved. You don't have to feel anything to know you are saved. If you truly from your heart called out to the Lord to come into your life, and to save you, His promise in Romans 10:13 is that He promised to save you. As far as your prayers getting through, if you ask anything according to His will (Not yours), that prayer will always be answered. Listen to this, cut it out and put it on your refrigerator if you need to: Prayer is the means by which you express your submission to God's will in whatever you are asking Him for, and knowing that He will always answer that prayer.

Whether or not you feel saved, you are. Christ is in you (If you received Him). He will never leave you. You are eternally secure in Him. All you have to do is trust Him. You're relationship with Jesus Christ will never change. You might break fellowship with Him, but you can call out to Him to restore that any time. But your relationship as a child of God will never change! Salvation is eternal!

I understand what you are saying and i have repented and turn away from the life i was living but for the first time in years i am alcohol and drug free and every sin i have ever done is coming back to haunt me, I guess what i am saying even though i don't feel have that closeness with the Lord i used to have and my prayers feel like they are not getting through, so without that closeness am i still saved? Because i don't feel saved.

(Part 2)

I hope you understand what this verse is saying. Jesus Christ was the final sacrifice for sin. There is no more sacrifice for sin. Those Hebrew people who were being enlightened to the truth had to choose between accepting Christ's final sacrifice for sin, or going turning away and going back to their own sacrificing.

Please know this. If you have received Christ (Been born of His Spirit), He lives inside of you. He promised to never leave you, nor forsake you. You are eternally secure in Christ if you have been born of His Spirit. Also understand, that even though you're saved, you will sin. As long as you live in a body of flesh, you will sin. However, you will be unable to live a lifestyle of sin because Christ's Spirit in you will not allow you to do so. There will be conviction. You will commit single acts of sin, but it is impossible for a saved person to live a lifestyle of sin, their former lifestyle before receiving Christ.

Please do not be troubled in heart. If you have Christ, you'll always have Christ. He's not leaving you!

Rich,

I'm going to have to break this up. I would like to share this with you in hope that it might ease your mind. There are some who use Hebrews 10:26 to show that a person can lose their salvation. That is not what this verse is saying. Hebrews 10:26 says "For if we sin willfully, that is, we go back to serving the principle of sin, after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins.

If you go back to Chapter 6, those who were enlightened, that are no longer coming for fellowship, just because they were enlightened doesn't mean they're saved. The Lord can enlighten someone as to the knowledge of the truth, they know the truth, they have seen the truth, they understand the truth, but have never surrendered their life to Christ.

Now if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins. This is what the writer is saying. He's talking to Hebrew people who were following along and being enlightened to the truth about Christ. But when it came time for them to make a decision to give up Judaism and surrender their life to Christ, many of them would leave because of the price they would have to pay. If they received Christ, they would be banned from their own temple, they would lose their jobs, their family would disown them. So they chose to go back into Judaism because surrendering to Christ would be too hard. The writer is telling them that if they go back into old Judaism, you're not going to find any sacrifice there that's going to take care of your sin problem if you leave Christ.

More to follow.

Also, Rich, verses 10:26-39 is a warning dealing with the sin of apostasy, an intentional falling away. He is NOT talking about himself or genuine believers. I recommend getting a Study Bible, as they explain many, many things in the Bible we may not understand. I LOVE mine. David Jeremiah's study Bible is excellent, I have that one & also John Macarthur's.

What immediately came to my mind is

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness. (Also continue on thru 2:2) The fear you feel is NOT from God, for God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and love and a sound mind. 11 Timothy 1:7 But satan, the liar who comes to kill, steal & destroy has gripped you. Cast off his lies IN JESUS NAME!!!!! I pray this helps to bring His peace into your soul. Get into the Word & see what God says, then you'll know the truth, & satan's lies will be more obvious to you.

Stay a while in 1 John and his other books.

In 1 John 2:1 it says that if you sin and Satan drags you up before the Throne of God, you have an ADVOCATE (sitting at Gods right arm). Jesus, your Advocate and attorney. He checks the Lambs Book of Life, sees your name written in it, and your case is dismissed for lack of evidence. Your sins have been blotted out with His blood.

It doesn't mean we can run amok and sin all over the place. We are to put ourselves in the Holy Spirits leadership, teaching; conviction when we do sin.

Fear hath torments. That's a demon with many little demons. It's their job to shake your faith in Jesus. The spirit of death causes some people to take their lives. They know they have no rights to do any of that to a Jesus trusting Christian.

In 1 John 1:9 you will learn to run to the Cross if you do sin and confess; be forgiven; renewed. I go there a lot.

We are washed clean by constantly renewing our minds with the Word of God. Your Bible. If we don't furnish our "homes" with Bible teaching; prayer: demons come back around to see if you have an opening for them. You can make them leave!

Say what you've learned: IT IS WRITTEN... and speak your scripture that you've planted in your heart.

You'll get so strong that you'll be able to help other people get freed as well.

Now go read Romans 8:1-2. Read all of Rom. 8. Read Book of John 8:32

You did good coming here :)

Hebrews 10 vs 26-27 say if we sin willfully, does that mean if we sin on purpose deliberately with Full knowledge of what we are doing, we can never turn to repentance? Is the rest of our lives spent with foreboding and fear knowing hell is our destination? Because I cant seem to find Jesus anymore from the very second I wake up until I finally go to sleep I'm in fear , I have absolutely no joy in my life, I do my best to lead others to Christ but inside I feel like I've made an eternal mistake, and I dont want anyone else to make it

This train doesn't carry backsliders! Must sill check oneself and repent and ask for forgiveness on bended knees.

Chris, following up on where I left off. As you point out, Hebrews 10:5 "speaks of the temporary, deficient & incompleteness of the sacrificial system & that only God's offering would accomplish God's Purposes." So, the logical conclusion is that if:

1. God prepared a body for Christ

2. And He prepared that human body before creation ( 2 Tim 1:9)

3. And God created mankind in His image

4. Then, can we conclude God created man so Christ could have a human body in His image?

Or was it accidental? God either created man in His image on purpose and with a purpose, or the body for Christ was a convenient accident. Wasn't the Law, to include sacrifices, set up by God as a Shadow of what was to come? If the Law was a Shadow, what was it a Shadow of? For there to be a Shadow, there has to be a real object that casts that Shadow. And which comes first, the shadow or the object that casts that Shadow? Col 2:17. And if a Shadow, when was that Shadow cast? When God used an animal to clothe Adam and Eve? When Abel offered a better sacrifice than Cain? Or when Abraham offered his son on the altar?

We see from these Scriptures, I hope, the Shadow of Christ's Sacrifice was cast prior to anything being created. Heb 8:5. Consequently, is it fair to conclude that both the Shadow and the object that casts that Shadow, Christ, were for Christ to enter the world as the True Sacrificial Lamb? Col 2:17, Isa 49:6, 51:5.

Isaiah 40:3 sounds the call to prepare the way for the Lord. You said, "It does not speak of man being created to open the way for Christ to come & be his Sacrifice." But if the call is not to man, who is the call to? Who was to come? A man. Why did God make man in His image? Because an animal could not meet the needs only the Man Christ could satisfy.

And when did Christ start casting the Shadow? He started casting the Shadow back to the beginning of time, from the 1st Century Cross, to before creation. John 8:58. Which came 1st, Man, Shadow or Christ?

Hi Chris,

part 3:

> if the 'Christian' persists in wilful sin, then he hasn't been saved in the first place

This seems like a tough position to take, because it appears to contradict itself at every angle. For example: what/who is a Christian, to you? Can you give a precise and reliable definition of a Christian?

What if someone you believe is a Christian who meets the criteria you believed was set for one later turned out to turn away from Christ and continue in willful sin as it says in Hebrews 10:26 then you say they were never a Christian in the first place, but why weren't they? I know of Christians who are husbands, dads, pastors, youth ministers, worship leaders, who have each turned from Christianity. There's even a forum online for ex-Christians who have left the faith. So, you say they never were Christian in the first place even after all they did as Christians. So, does that mean someone who only responds to an altar call and prays and gives their heart to Jesus isn't Christian either? What exactly is a Christian?

Even angels in heaven (they're already in heaven) have freewill to sin and turn from God. If even angels have freewill while in heaven, of course mankind does on Earth when God specifically gave mankind the freedom to choose good or evil, to choose love or hate. We're not robots. Just like if you're a dad it's more meaningful if your son/daughter voluntarily says 'I love you', God gave us freewill to choose if we want to be with him or not, to love Him or not, to obey Him or not. It's our choice and we'll also be judged. I suppose if you believe you "can't" sin that doesn't jibe with judgment day either. If we're already saved, what's the point of being judged for our actions?

Secondly, it sounds like you don't believe Christians have freewill if you they can't sin. To say we don't have freewill is to contradict other verses.