Discuss Hebrews 10 Page 15

Do you mean why the KJV & some other versions use the word 'illuminated' instead of 'enlightened'? If so, both words mean the same in the original Greek 'photizo' = to enlighten, illumine, to bring light, to reveal.

In Hebrews 6:4, the word used there is 'enlightened' which is from the same root word 'photizo'. Why the difference, I can't tell.

But if you mean why a change was made in the KJV to read 'illuminated', then that question can only be answered to those who were involved in the translation.

In Hebrews Chapter 10 verse 32. Why was the word enlightened replaced with illuminate?

Joshua, in your reply on mathew 26. Respectfully your wrong. heres scripture to back it up. You stated above that If we continue our old practice - our dead in our sins way of living AFTER we become saved, we were never saved/born again to begin with( Hebrews 10:26, Hebrews 10:38-39, 1 John 2:15, 2 Peter 2:20-22). My scripture to back it up mathew 18:12. talks about the lost sheep.... i was saved before and wandered away. i am currently PURGING sin out of my life as you ARE CORRECT when you state that you dont continue in your sinful ways once you become a new creature... i just wanted to point out though that just because someone has gone astray and dead in sins and trespasses it DOES NOT mean that they werent already saved to begin with. Respectfully, stephen

Hello Chris,

My thanks for your kindness, and for your well thought-out reply. I don't have much to add... I think it's as you said - at the end of the day, it is between each person and God. I don't think we can know if another person is "really saved" while we are in this temporary body. Even if we use the only measure, God's Word, can we know the true state of a person's heart?

Of course, that doesn't mean we shouldn't give God's Word to everyone as we have opportunity. God told us to exhort, edify, and encourage one another daily( 2 Timothy 4:2, Hebrews 3:13, Hebrews 10:25). I believe these things are all part of fighting the good fight of faith.

God bless, my friend.

Hello Adam,

Yes, I am a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ.

The standard I only desire to use is God's Word, and this is the only standard anyone can use regarding the truth( John 17:17).

Whether we, still imperfect in our sinful flesh, can "know" if we are saved or not is a good question. God tells us to examine ourselves, to see if we are in the faith( 2 Cor. 13:5). We examine if we are walking in agreement with God.

The whole of God's Word shows us that once we are born again, we become a new creature( 2 Corinthians 5:17). We are to be dead to our old ways. Dead to the ways of the world, because the world is wicked( 1 John 5:19). We are not to continue practicing sin( Titus 2:12, James 1:27).

We will still sin because we are still imperfect. ( Romans 7:23-24, Philippians 3:12, Ephesians 4:13). The difference is we do not continue PRACTICING sin, or WILLFULLY sinning. God does not judge by appearance, but by the TRUE state of our HEARTS( Luke 16:15, John 7:24).

If we continue our old practice - our dead in our sins way of living AFTER we become saved, we were never saved/born again to begin with( Hebrews 10:26, Hebrews 10:38-39, 1 John 2:15, 2 Peter 2:20-22).

We are still in the world but we are not of the world( John 17:16, Romans 12:2). On the contrary, we are tasked by the Lord to be examples & witnesses to the world( Philippians 2:15, Matthew 5:14, Romans 10:9-11, 13-15, 2 Corinthians 4:13).

This, I believe, is the "key" to knowing whether or not we are truly saved. If we truly believe.

Earl, thanks for your response.

If you believe it's impossible for a Christian to sin, does that mean tonight your or I can commit any sin we'd like and it wouldn't be sin? I'm a Christian and just like Paul have struggles of the flesh and part of me would really like to commit a fleshly sin tonight. Is your belief that I can proceed to do that and not be sinning? What if I do the same tomorrow and the next day for the rest of my life and add more sins too, do you truly believe there be no consequence? At what point does a Christian suddenly become 'was never a Christian'?

Did you hover over any of the verses above and do you feel they are consistent with what you're saying here, like Hebrews 10:26?

Hi Earl,

I believe the opposite of what you stated, because of what I see in the scriptures. God forgiving our sin and cleaning us is different than claiming someone cannot sin- that it's impossible. That's a logical leap into a whole different territory in which there's a mountain of scripture warning us against sin (including Christians) and no scriptures saying it's impossible for us to sin. It's also different than God 'not seeing sin' due to grace covering us as long as we're following Christ (a Christian). The old testament verses above do not mean someone cannot sin. If no one can sin, what's the point of asking for forgiveness? If no one can sin, what's the point of avoiding sin and striving to be perfect like Jesus said? If no one can sin, what's the point of spreading the gospel? If no one can sin, then you can ignore the Bible and just follow the world and do whatever sin you want with no consequence? The Bible already said that's not the case. Paul wrote about his fleshly struggles to sin- if there was no sin would it make sense that he would write that? If no sin, does that mean you can't blaspheme the holy spirit, either? Why would Jesus preach and challenge his followers with all these instructions if they couldn't sin and their actions were irrelevant. Satan is the father of lies and one of these teachings is truth and one is a lie. They are not both true. So, if satan was going to deceive someone is it likely they would deceive someone into being 'gooder' than they need to be or to be 'badder'- to convince them it's ok to sin, that you will surely 'not' be punished for it. To me that sounds like the same being behind the 1st temptation in the garden of eden- the father of lies is always not far away from any false teaching. Once saved, always saved is another teaching people often distort in order to justify sinning and blaspheming against God.

Here's what the Bible actually says:

James 2:17

Romans 6:15

Hebrews 10:26

Rom 7:22

Matthew 7:21

John 14:15

Matt 5:13

Matthew 7:26-27

Eph 5:5-6

Rom 11:19-23

God bless...

Hebrews 1026 about willing sin and no more sacrifices

I agree. Assembling is merely coming together as a congregation (however big that may be) to edify and exhort one another as fellow christians. No walls to any building are necessary. However, as time went by, more people gathered and a building was just a matter of course. I do believe there is an "outside" church near where I live. Quite frankly, I think an outside church is a great idea. This corona virus thing has forced my church into the parking lot and God's creation, and it is very nice. Yes, weather will take a toll, which is why the walls of a church are handy, but I am willing to go with it.

Assembling of people means church not a building, in the days of Jesus Christians got together in homes. Now days we have the internet, cell phones, Bible studies, churches people coming together . the list is endless God bless you .

I've looked and search and I'm just trying to be clear....the 25th verse says nothing about meeting in a building...so to speak in those days of the writer, there were no other forms of communication that could draw a closeness such as we have with technology today.....

There are so many people i've spoken to in reference to not being inside a church building, yet they are able to meet through a media platform...

question: Where in the bible does it state that the assembling is necessarily the inside of walls today....thanks, be bless.

Hi Ed,

What do you think of James 2:17? Do you think those are in agreement with your opinion, because it seems to say that faith alone isn't enough, does it not?

Here's some others like it; what's your take on these?

Romans 6:15

Hebrews 10:26

Rom 7:22

Matthew 7:21

John 14:15

Matt 5:13

Matthew 7:26-27

For example, I'd love to have premarital sex tonight, but I haven't before because I read in the Bible that it's a sin of fornication. So, if I follow your advice, since you say all future sins are forgiven, does that mean I can go ahead and have premarital sex tonight without any consequence from God?

In what way do you think that it is mean

Here, again, Christ encourages His followers to keep their "hearts" from fear and trouble. This repeats the statement Jesus used to start this message ( John 14:1), immediately after predicting Peter's cowardice ( John 13:38). Here, again, scholars suggest that Jesus is distinguishing between being troubled in one's "spirit," meaning pain and unhappiness, as opposed to being troubled in one's "heart," meaning fear and despair. Jesus was said to have a troubled spirit, at times ( John 11:33; 13:21). What He calls for here is not for Christians to be stone-faced and inhuman. Rather, it's to acknowledge the reality of suffering while at the same time trusting in God to make good on His promises.

If you had read those books and passages you would have seen that the 4 Disciples had been present with Jesus in all of His Ministry. The title, Apostles, means that person had witnessed Jesus Alive.

To deny it, is a perfect example of what an antichrist spirit looks like. You can't dispute: With what, IT IS WRITTEN.

Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, are known as the Harmony Of The Gospels. All four men witnessed the same events.

Mishael

Of the books of Matthew,Mark,Luke or John did any of them hear Jesus preach?

John14:27 mean

Likely Rick a Christian dad and mom that follow the Lord in the peace of God, and who train their children in the way of God will have children who will hear and obey the call of God to salvation in due time. A born again child say 12 years old is a member of God's Kingdom and if Baptized into God's Church on earth a member of the Bride of Christ, though young in age still a co- laborer in the faith once delivered unto the saints. This co- laborer by your view who knows the peace of God must be at fault until the laws of the land permit them to vote?

This is non- sense and of grave error.

Carleton

Deuteronomy 28:13-68

But ._._._. Deuteronomy 28:1-13

1 Peter 4:3-5

James 4:11-17

Amos 1:2-15

Amos 2:1-16

Hebrews 10:26-31

Colossians 3:4-6

Ephesians 5:1-21

Revelation

Mathew 23

Mathew 25:31-46

Mathew 24

Hebrews 10:26

"For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

Is the verse saying there no more chances if you keep sinning because no more sacrifice? If you keep sinning you can't sacrifice to make up for the sin. Like you toast?

This verse talk like it is referring to you being alive and no more sacrifice for sin. If it meant after death they would not need to say " remaineth no more sacrifice for sins".

Man this hard to learn...Does it mean something else maybe?

Cheryl, boom! I agree with you 99%

When this all started I remembered the scripture

1 Timothy 2:1-2

1 Peter 2:13-17

But my personal conviction is not to wear the masks. I keep my distance as that is my personal way anyway but I have ministered to, touched hugged strangers, including unbathed homeless, in these days.

2 Corinthian 3:14-18

Romans 1:17

I have had to face much opposition but I have to obey my LORD & follow HIM.

Thank you for the additional scripture!

Hebrews 10:23-25

Isaiah 5:20-21

2 Timothy 3 - 2 Timothy 4:1-5

Mathew

Mark

Luke

John

Dear Lord, I give you my entire heart, soul and being. All of the training, studying and skills are yours. Each work that I do and the money I earn is done in your honor. I lay all of my hopes and aspirations at your feet. I pray that you will bless my work and find favor in all that I do. When I meet new challenges in my work, I pray that you will help me to overcome them and excel in my job. Please guide me throughout the day so that I may walk in your path in all that I do. Amen.

Protect me in this time away from home. When I return, go before me and give me favor with my doctors. I ask that this tumor would dry up and I am healed by Jesus dying on the Cross so I may give praise to you for a good report. And I shall tell of all of your mercy and grace and favor. Praise you Jesus forever, amen.

Hello I am asking prayer and agreement for my song to be a blessed and a blessing on the radio stations. It is already on one and we are asking it be on the Tallahassee and surrounding areas as well. That God gives me health and strenth during this trial with my health as well and to gain my weight back after being sick with tumor

Most assuredly remission of sins happens on earth following blood atonement (Leviticus chapters 16 and 17). Yet only the blood of Jesus Christ is adequate propitiation, he being God in the flesh ( Isaiah 53).

What Jesus demonstrated was that he had power to lay down his life and then take it again. ( John 10:18).

Admittedly the character of Christians is too often a ready excuse for unbelief.

Marginal medicine majors on the malady while repudiating the remedy.

Thank you!

:)

Carleton

Yes, very Paulish explanation. I am a atudent of the Torah, which offers no blanket exoneration, but a warning to all of the terrible and awsome power of El Shaddai. He is a heart knower and a rewarder, but also a destroyer of those who act callously against the laws of God dictated to Moses for public consumption. Even though the KJB and the Torah relate the same history, they are a remarkably dissimilar. The Torah is straightforward without antiquated language. It lacks the story of Jesus and the obscure direction that Paul presents regarding the love of God and His directions for happiness on earth.

Jesus is the True High Priest and is the Prince of Salem (Peace) like the order of Melchisedec. Jesus completely fulfilled the position of Melchisedec and Abraham the Father of Faith paid tribute to him with Levi in his loins. Now his believing children are spiritual Levites on earth while Jesus is in the heavens.

Hebrews 8 agrees that there was and is and always be only one offering of sacrifice (offered up). The born again believer by full remittance of sins becomes a chosen vessel, a royal priesthood in the order of a Levite priest (earthy) while Jesus remains the Heavenly Priest.

His Holy Spirit directs our Priestly ways concerning our very own Tabernacle, in the order of peace which is harmless and not defiled and separate from sin.

I don't get the logic whereby because Jesus was "offered up", that our sins are remitted. There is no once andfor all that I can see. Jesus demonstrated that the death of the body does not touch the life in the body. Melchisidek walked the earth having no beginning or end but a priest continually. Remission of sins does not happen on earth, or only rarely as one is approved by God. Every Christian I know is like a whitewashed wall, pretending to be holy above the fray yet full of the same God awful and persistant fallacies as everyone else

You are the Comforter and the Healer.

I need your power in my life.

I feel a lot of anxiety and pressure right now. My mind is being attacked by the enemy of my soul. Heal my memories that I pray to forget.

I am pressuring myself,

attempting to either control, direct, or manage everything I care about.

I need you to manage me.

Take away the shame, calm my distress,

sooth my afflictions, relieve my groaning,

comfort my grief,

strengthen my weaknesses,

defeat my oppression,

remember my pain,

repair my brokenness,

defeat my terror,

reveal my confusion,

champion my injustices,

rescue me from danger.

You are my rock, refuge, rescuer,

confidante, leader, guide, deliverer,

safe haven, merciful judge, shelter,

sight, friend, preserver, champion.

My pressures are nothing to you.

My worries are almost laughable (except you would never laugh at me).

My future is secure in you.

My insecurities are unnecessary.

All my days are numbered.

Not one of them is lost to you.

Lord, teach me tonumbermy days

that I may live them for you,

every moment,

free of fear and anxiety,

I trust you and love you,

My times are in your hands; deliverme from my enemies [my own thoughts and emotions] and from those that pursue me. Let your face shine on yourservant; save me in your unfailing love. Let me not be put to shame, O Lord, for I have cried out to you; but letthe wicked be put to shame and lie silent in the grave." ( Psalm 31:15-17)

In the Name of Jesus of Nazareth,

Amen.

Ask the Holy Spirit to help you clean any idols that are lost in your home. You're having spiritual warfare. You should pray this prayer at night before sleeping. The more Bible you get inside of you, the more peace you will have. It will help if you'll go on YouTube and view some spiritual warfare videos. I like Derek Prince.

I pray you will find peace and rest for your soul.

Mishael

All my life I have always believe in God for everything and I have always put in first and know where I am today in life is not by my power but sometimes, When I notice I do things which are of sin, I notice when I try asking for forgiveness and the next moment evil thought beginning coming to my head about God, I know does are the thought of the devil I keep saying get behind me satan, At night I can't sleep because the words gives coming wrong thoughts and it does not come from my heart because I know God has done a lot for me, I keep fighting this thoughts and sometimes I feel like just taking my life, Because I want to change I want to do God work, I feel God is not happy with me, I can't tel because I just know where I am anymore, I pray every morning and at night but I still have the feelings m not in the right part with God and I feel bad because the thoughts keep coming over and over and I keep fighting it m tired.