Bible Discussion Replies PAGE 2008

An Apostle is a Messenger - one who is sent out by his Master. In the case of the apostles in the Bible, the chief criterion was that they had to learn under their Master & be obedient to His directions. However, Paul was an exception as he was unlike the others. But he was referred to as an apostle, having first being called by Jesus to "be a chosen vessel unto me, to bear My Name before the Gentiles & kings & the children of Israel ( Acts 9:15). And Paul often referred to himself as an apostle of Christ ( 1 Corinthians 1:1, Romans 1:1, etc.).

How does this chapter relate to events of now in 2020-2021?

Ephesians 5:25-27, "as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."

What the Apostle Paul was speaking of in this passage has a dual application. He speaks about Jesus loving His Bride (the Church) by giving Himself for her. So we have not only had our hearts cleansed by His death & being forgiven by the Father, but He has sanctified us (i.e. set us apart as a Holy people) & cleansed us by washing us by the Word. Just as water baptism (a once only act) gives the believer a visible, practical testimony to himself & others of God's Work in Him, so to, the washing by the Word of God continues to be applied to that new regenerated heart, continually washing away the dross from one's life (the doubts, fears, sins, lies from the Devil, etc.). For those who seldom attend to God's Word, are usually those who seldom find full victory over these things in their lives. All this did Christ do for us & continues to do so by His Spirit, to the end that He might present us to the Father, a holy, glorious Church.

I know of this teaching: that water baptism is no longer valid. It is an old teaching that assumes that both water baptism & the Lord's Supper were instituted for the sake of & the establishing of the Church (& if taken further, that all spiritual gifts have also ceased). Once the Church formed, established & strengthened by the apostles, the 2nd Century Church onwards, then moved forward in faith alone, attending only to the study of the Word, prayer, fellowship, & sharing the Gospel. I can understand that point of view, but don't find any authority from the Bible to do so, as both water baptism & breaking of bread are very special events in the life of a believer, if observed properly & done sincerely.

Please, I just want to ask when Jesus resurrected, did He resurrected with His earthly body? Can someone explain this to me well. Thank you.

Thanks so much for this insights to this word beg and beseech. Now I know how to use the word for different people.

Please guide me as to the verses regarding cremation. Whether pro or anti. We have read Genesis 3:19. Need further direction as it pertains to the Catholic Church.

Yes, the holy spirit is described as the spirit of God. People keep getting caught up in the same thing over and over. I think the real question is do you believe the Bible or not. Do you believe 1 John 5:7 is truth? If so then believe what it says. It clearly gives 3 dimensions of God and says the 3 are one. It's indisputable.

As for the word "trinity" that's only a made up word to describe the concept the Bible already talks about. People in the Bible also didn't talk about going to the bathroom, but you can assume they did. It would be a logical fallacy to claim, aha! no one in the Bible ever talked about going to the bathroom, therefore no one ever did, ever. The word for trinity is only to make describing the relationship of God the father, the son, and the holy spirit more convenient in one word. But certainly no one has to use that one word, they can just quote scripture that says the same thing.

Beware that satan is going around to Christians and deceiving many with lies and distortions of the truth. If anyone gets confused, just read the Bible yourself and pray for understanding.

Hello,

Well I guess you can pick whichever one you perceive it as I guess. All I can say is the Holy Ghost is Spirit as I'm sure you know. Whom is sent from the Father in the name of Christ as it is written.

Why would you think I have that kind of answer?

Luke Chapter 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. 31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back. 32 Remember Lot's wife. 33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

What does it mean the Lord hearkened the heart of pharaoh

Simply put Faith is something you believe in without a doubt. example, when you sit in a chair that you have never sat in before, do you check it out to make sure that it is safe or do you just sit in it, trusting that it was built to hold a human weight. This, to me would be an example of Faith that it was built to be safe. Or when you see a little child and see the trust they have in their parents to protect and nourish them, this is another example of Faith. Throughout the NT there are many examples of Faith, John 20:25 Thomas who just spent 3 years with Jesus, but had doubt on His resurrection, until Jesus showed himself to him, Mark 5:25-34 is of a woman who had an issue of blood, and believed, and she was healed. Matthew 8:10 the Roman centurion believed and his servant was healed. Likewise as Christians we need to believe that Jesus death and resurrection on the cross is the only way to our salvation. Hebrews chapter 11 Paul explains faith in great detail, Matthew 18:3 tells us to become and believe as a child. I hope this helps.

John 20:25 "The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe."

Mark 5:25 And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years, 27 When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment. 28 For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole. 29 And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague. Mark 5:34 "And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague."

Matthew 8:10 "When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel."

Has anyone ever noticed,,, that not one time under the old or new covenant did anyone ever preach the Doctrine of the trinity ...! And what is the Name of the Father, or the HolyGhost, we know the name of the Son,,, his name is Jesus / we know that Jesus was conceived of the Holy Ghost , then how dose that make him the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER...HMMMMM. IS IT possible that there is only two in the Godhead and that the Holy Ghost is the spirit of the Father.? All through the scripture God the Father and his son Jesus are the only two that are consistently glorified Never the Holy Ghost in the same context. I think i need to reconsider and find the truth ...

Are we to be washed in the word (new testament) since Jesus died for our sins and we are saved by our faith and Gods' works, not by the works of water baptism? I have been told we no longer need to be water baptized, only faith and doing ministry.

JOB's' wife's sin was the same as the sin in Eden.

Job 2:9."Then said his wife unto him, dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God and die."

Gen 3:6 "And when the women saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit."

Job's wife is giving Job some advice. Why don't you lose your inner goodness, which is your integrity, which comes from having the Holy Spirit---truth? Why don't you sin the sin that blasphemes the Holy Ghost? Curse God and die (speaking of a spiritual death.) Job's wife was asking Job to do the same as Eve wanted Adam to do. Job would not. He made the choice not to sin. Job was unequally yoked together with a person who served the devil, and in most cases the person who serves the devil will want their spouse to do so also. They will try and persuade their spouse to commit unnatural sex.

Job was a person who feared the Lord, which means he hated evil and would not join his wife in evil.

Human kind needs to understand what has brought all the violence to earth. This sin in Eden is the sin Jesus comes to earth to put an end to so we can experience heaven on earth. He will not come to condemn but he comes to deliver. How many homosexual would choose deliverance over acceptance?

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In the Christian love feasts/gatherings, they were spots (Gk. hidden reefs/rocks that cause shipwreck) against the solidness of the Church, appearing to bring worthwhile teaching but were just dry clouds, as trees with dried, dying fruit on them but also doubly dead with rotting root as well (roots that no longer bound the tree into the earth, but could easily be 'plucked up' with little effort), etc., etc. When you see this, "beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ". It may well be that these "filthy dreamers" were introducing fornication into the Church as well, supporting their teaching that gives permission to the appeal of the flesh, but the message of Jude is to beware of these men who are children of Satan & who do not come in the Name of the Lord, neither do they teach nor behave as children of Light.

"What do I think of Christianity today?" By & large, the Church is not in a good state - we have left some of the apostolic teaching, vibrancy & urgency to both the saved & the lost. The Church essentially has lost its witness & the World loves to have it this way - the World then can have no Divine pronouncement of Judgement against their wicked deeds. Jesus' message to the 7 Churches should also be given heed today. Hypocrisy & compromise are the Churches' leading errors & our abject failure to bring the requirements of God to the forefront of the secular world; & I refer to the failure of our fundamental, evangelical Churches. But to those Churches that entertain marriage of homosexuals, women clergy, ordination of women/homosexuals, & turning a blind eye to the same conditions of Sodom in our cities & maybe within the Church as well, (& with govts. pandering to homosexuals' demands, remain equally culpable before God), it would be like walking on the circumference of Hell. Indeed, the Church at large is in a mess, but there is still a remnant that are led of God's Spirit & are in anguish.

Jesus did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill, If you read in Luke he was also circumcised and he didn't need to be, likewise in Matthew, John says that he needed to be baptized of Jesus, but Jesus reply's that all righteousness needs to be fulfilled.

Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

Luke 2:21 "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb."

Matthew 3:11 "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:"

Matthew 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

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Actually, I meant 'physical death', as you mentioned those who "walk uprightly & if they then fall dead". If they're upright, then no death; if they fall, then death, is how I understand your statement. Or maybe, we need to define 'uprightness & righteousness' pertaining to how the upright might fall. And of course, death (both physical & spiritual) must come to us as we are sinners deserving of both. Had Adam not sinned, he would not have died in both ways. One day, I will die physically because of sin, but through Christ & God's Mercy, I will be spared spiritual death.

I know there are some sins more 'severe' than others, but the Bible doesn't differentiate that any 'lesser' sin committed can spare man from God's Judgement. You seem to have settled in your mind, that fornication is the 'ultimate, deadliest' sin. I don't know where you have learned this or maybe been a witness to such a tragedy that has deeply affected you. One can never discount this sin, but really, is it any greater than murder, theft, rape, deceit, hypocrisy, etc.? Is the murder of George Floyd any less or greater a murder than of an unborn child? Is the rampage & desecration of the Capitol any less or greater a crime than of one breaking in & destroying your home & privacy? All are sin before God: whether fornication of the most despicable sort or the lust conceived in the heart of man.

You quote Jude, but again, I feel that I need to share a little about the book, since you are seeing 'fornication' written all over it. Jude in verse 3 writes about those 'men, ungodly men, who crept into the Church'. Jude gives examples of God's past Judgements (as given to the Egyptians, the angels who rebelled along with Satan, & to Sodom). As with them, these ungodly men will not escape, these who have done the works of Cain (wrong hearts/motives/rebellion), of Balaam (greed), & of Core (Korah: insubordination, rebellious, desire to be prominent).

Here is God in us all,

Ephesians 4:4-6 . There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

One GOD AND FATHER OF ALL, WHO IS ABOVE ALL, AND THROUGH ALL, AND IN YOU ALL.,

"Now here is the Holyspirit and Christ in you and the Holyspirit is called the spirit of Christ"

Romans 8:9-10. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the

(((Spirit of God dwell in you)))

(((Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)))

"Here is Christ in us"

(((And if Christ be in you))) the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

"Again God in you"

1 Corinthians 3:16. Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

There is Lord and one Spirit, God is a spirit. What kind of spirit is God? "Holy"!!

Jesus was in the bosom of the Father and manifested in the flesh, How do a spirit have a bosom as we know a bosom? Revelation 1:8. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, (((the Almighty)))

Here is that in the Greek Greek:

Transliteration: pantokratr

Pronunciation: pan-tok-rat'-ore

Definition: From G3956 and G2904; the all ruling that is God (as absolute and universal sovereign): - Almighty Omnipotent.

KJV Usage: Almighty(9x), omnipotent(1x).

Occurs: 10

In verses: 10

Does he and himself in this verse speaks of a force/Influence or a divine person?

John 16:13. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of ""HIMSELF;""but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Galatians 5:9. A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump..

When a person is baptized they confess their sin. And in Matthew we learn Jesus was baptized.

Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.

Matthew 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.

14. But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

15. And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

16. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

The verse clearly says the 3 are one. How do you interpret that?

Hello Star,

As I really can't speak for anyone but myself but I don't think anyone here believes in God being more than One. As you are not the only person but many people have a problem with the Father, Son(Word), and Holy Ghost. Being three but of One. Then saying you agree with verse ( 1 John 5:7 but not three persons is very confusing.

Maybe just one question I would start with is John 16:13. How could the Spirit of Truth(Holy Ghost) "not speak of Himself but whatsoever He shall hear" if it were the same "person". That verse would be an oxymoron. Along with many others of Jesus Christ(The Word) praying to God the Father along with God the Father speaking from Heaven down unto Jesus Christ numerous times.

So you saying "Definitely not and never" but agree with verse ( 1 John 5:7 could you please explain your view? Thank you.

Hello George,

I don't understand why you would want to know that. At the top of the page click on "KJV Standard" then type in whatever word you want to search for in the Bible. Have fun.

So what you're saying is adam and eve as husband and wife committed fornication by obeying god.

so you says adam and eve brought sin into the world as husband and wife by committing fornication,

( genesis 1:28. and god blessed them, and god said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth,)



you've been proven wrong on this issue already. let it go!!

everyone knows the sin of adam was disobeying god, eve was deceived.

the devil was a deceiver and a liar from the beginning,

the devil misquoting scripture is his tatic.

we need to beware of the devil disciples who uses these tatics as well..

beware of who you give god speed!!!

Hello Marilyn,

Where are you getting "Jesus needed to be baptized or to repent of something"? So you don't believe Jesus Christ lived a sinless life for you and me?

Jesus Christ is completely on a different level than all other people. Even John saying that he needed to be baptized of Him in Matthew 3:14-15. Jesus saying He did it to fulfill all righteousness. Maybe just to humble himself.

So the question really is do you believe Jesus Christ lived a sinless life and was sent by God the Father?

Marilyn Taplin, You err greatly.

"However, there must have been something he needed to repent of."

Jesus never sinned.

"Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth" 1 Peter 2:22

"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin" 2 Corinthians 5:21

"And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin." 1 John 3:5

Peter said he didn't, Paul said he didn't and John said he didn't, but you "suppose" he did. In your fifty years of Bible study, have you seen any verse that, states in context, that he sinned?

The "why" has no connection to baptism, as Rod explained to you.

was the first sin committed by Eve or Adam?

I absolutely agree w the verse but it is not 3 persons. Never!

It's clearly stated in the Bible. Link I believe what God says over what a flawed human being says.