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The Spirit has led me to discuss this; once again with some previous themes I have undertaken no doubt several times on this site. I would appreciate prayer as I have some time away to collect my thoughts should there be more to say here on this subject.
I believe that as with no other topic of late the sea of internet forums on this topic focused particularly on dreams and visions has oftentimes done more harm than good. I seek to speak what I sense the Lord has shown me; realizing that already puts a target on my back so to speak. I pray that those who have followed me here will at least test the spirits; as it were as to anything I am saying and will realize that I am not the type to sensationalize or make up anything that I haven't sensed many times from the Lord in the past. My goal is to sound the alarm to anyone listening; whether a believer or nonbeliever stumbles upon this information.
I am going to state a couple things that no doubt will raise controversy; the idea that not everyone confessing Christ will be raptured; and that the Spirit of God still exists after the event. There are some who are called and chosen but are not appointed to rise up according to His plan and Providence until after the Rapture; likely the countless multitude of Revelation 9.
There are also many today who have backslidden and are; from what I can tell in scripture not prepared for the Rapture and likely left behind. There are also those who will as in all ages that will have little to show for themselves in regard to spiritual rewards; this would encompass the resurrected saints of old perhaps primarily. My main idea is that the Laodicean church of today is characterized by pride and self worth determined by possessions; and they literally will find themselves poor; blind and naked as Revelation 3:17. Many will be refined as martyrs; some could hide out and be as those warned about in Revelation 16:15.
" Surely they shall not see the land which I sware unto their fathers, neither shall any of them that provoked me see it:"(Num.14.22-23) God did not anoint Caleb and Joshua with Holy Spirit but their faith did. The healing was not in the pool but whosoever who stepped therein as the angel troubled the waters had faith. It is thus God laid down faith framing the heaven and the earth where there was only one single measurement and a single volume tagged by 144. Instead the heathens trivialise the Covenant to mean something else.
Blessed in his Son the fruit bearing trees has a body as the waters above has a direction. Similarly from Eden waters course has a direction. These valleys are fully secured by angels. These seven angels shall avenge the saints of God, " For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy."
Moses refer to the pillar of cloud and pillar of fire (Num.14.14) which are two witnesses whom God set. Healing at Bethesda demonstrate that angel of the waters work with the Word become flesh. So seven eyes reveal how the worlds are framed by the word of God. On the day Four God sets two lights,'And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,/ And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness."( Gen. 1.17-18)
" And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:/And it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to these: so that the one came not near the other all the night." (Exod.14.19-20) The greater light and lesser light are signs to indicate that God fights the battles by the word of His power and He made angels spirits, ministers of fire. Spirit of Christ was there.
" And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus/For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy."
During the earthly ministry of Jesus we see a healing where this angel figures."Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having five porches./In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water./ For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."
What sin caused was to prevent the man of palsy from being cured. The man would be made whole only because the only measurement that helped his case aligned by themselves. " Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee."( Jn 5.1-16)
In the everlasting Covenant the Law makes provision for waters. The Waters above was separated from waters below.. Is there an Up or down in the kingdom of God? Jesus Christ is the spiritual Rock " And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ."(1 Cor.10.1-4) . Moses only had to speak to the rock and out flowed sweet water. For all that blessing how did the Jews respond to the healing? "And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day." It is of them God had said," Because all those men which have seen my glory, and my miracles, which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now these ten times, and have not hearkened to my voice;/ Surely they shall not see the land
One good question; of course is the hypothetical of losing it all if we would remain faithful as the backdrop. Jesus did tell His disciples to sell all they had and follow Him; albeit later on they were to bring supplies with them once Christ physically was about to depart the earth. Nonetheless; as we see with Peter early on and Paul as well their own financial prosperity wasn't important; Paul demonstrates the work ethic to supply His needs but we don't seem to see that with Peter; and there is enough scriptural warrant to show how there should be financial assistance to not only leadership in a church but widows and others in need distributed with wisdom; of course.
I don't have kids but can say with the work ethic I grew up with even in an unsaved parental atmosphere I knew I had to mow the lawn and do other things for what would now be a meager allowance indeed. A parent really isn't under obligation to reward their children at ALL for chores; but look at how it is today with everyone over 12 it seems (maybe younger) with their own cell phones; kids even younger with computer games; etc. If we don't look at work as being a blessing of God along with financial benefits whatever it is (unless some less than reputable establishment) we have a bad attitude; and of course our kids can see this and mirror our actions. Truly our good and bad actions are repeated by our kids; along with their own unique sense of humor at times.
Giving; of course should be not only to check off a box but in a loving expression and desire to see missionaries and those in our own local body including pastors blessed. Let's look at it from a merely selfish point of view to make a point. If distributions aren't effectively planned and given to those in need what consolation will it be if we lose our own jobs and ask the local church for help? Let's extend that concept toward others as we should desire for them what we do for ourselves.
Ugh got cut off again. I am determined whenever possible to rewrite things when this happens even if it is the stupidity of my pinkie finger pressing the wrong button for the umpteenth time...
Where was I? Oh yeah Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Romans 1:24. This is the END of the concept I was alluding to; namely the prosperity crowd out there whose leadership like Ananias and Sapphira aren't wiped out due to covetousness and outright lies as to where the money is going. I won't name names here a bit of research is evident. My point here is that they are left largely to their own devices; deceiving and being deceived ( 2 Tim. 3:13). I am sort of going backwards here but ultimately something that is innocuous like a piece of paper called cash (spoiler alert; in paper form it is backed by and worth nothing) is to be used for His glory not our own covetousness. That is something I am considering as I have been able to make some money buying and selling silver coins as of late. It is wise to hold on to some of these items; but the admonitions in James about the silver and gold cankering in the last days should be a warning to us all; if not in the Tribulation perhaps before that with a worldwide currency it will be either illegal to own it or it will be declared worthless in a worldwide monetary standard. Food for thought...
Luke 16:12 And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own?
Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
If we save money and increment deliberately toward missions; childhood adoption and other needs God can bless it.
I feel this is such an important concept that it deserves more discussion; namely our reward going to another. This isn't like in a normal event where as Paul would state only one gets the prize ( 1 Cor. 9:24). Again for some context I am certainly not saying what Paul obviously indicates; that those who carefully buffet themselves win the prize and that it is only one (or in the implication a few) who are able to attain this; which is of course symbolic of eternal rewards fit for service in various types of ministry; sacrifice and perseverance.
Ah; just got back from cutting the lawn. This task helps me to ponder the matter; as to how often we are as Jonah the reluctant prophet. We notice in Hebrews 11 that he is NOT mentioned. I will assume he truly was saved for the example here; as many seem fixated on the concept of a person not producing fruit as being not saved and don't consider those who are not receiving reward but who are one of God's children who never get out of the diaper stage. Hearing His voice; of course is described in the Gospel of John as criteria for His children. This is evidenced by those who have occasional fits and starts of great potential as in reality all true saved individuals have. As with Jonah they need a jump start and redirection to move in God's path but they never have their whole heart in the task. This differentiates those who are always DOING something from those not obsessed with endless obligations but do a few things and do it well. God calls us to different levels of commitment with time and ministry as the need deems nececessary. But a heart fit for service "in and out of season" ( 2 Tim. 4:2) is a necessary admonition. If we don't look at the Spirit inside as the hope within us then we only care about our own souls and this is a fatal flaw to spiritual rewards. We should look to the well being; especially the spiritual maturity of others to recieve their rewards.
Since this for me is such a difficult thing to do any suggestions are welcome.
When there is so much going on in the world it is hard enough to focus on what to start with; and when we don't know who is culpable for the wars and persecution (although that second factor is usually clearer) it is hard to know what to ask for. Such prayers that David prayed that are considered "impreccatory" are in regard to destruction overall of wicked people; and Revelation seems to have the same idea with the incense of the prayers of saints during the seal and following trumpet judgments that are poured on the earth after that collective prayer; so to speak is gathered together by the angels of God.
It is hard also to avoid sticking our heads in the sand to get some escape and relief from the implications of all that's happening and accelerating towards Armageddon. We also are conditioned through the media to see ongoing and soon to come events of killing and forget that God still delivers some today from such events; and that He continues to bring His saints THROUGH them.
It is almost more unsettling where we still have relative peace and safety in some parts of America today waiting for the boon to drop; as we could be attacked from any ICBM in less than 30 minutes with no warning and no real means to defend ourselves.
On top of this; of course we have the unsettling behaviors and crimes that seem to be spiraling more and more out of control.
Ignoring all this; we see a general apathy among self professed believers who should be a shelter in the storm if they would use some of their God given intercessory prayer rather than just keeping to themselves the candle under the bushel; as it were.
If we don't use it we lose it; case example as was listed yesterday as to the Ephesian church and others whose candlestick was going out. Revelation 3:11 makes it abundantly clear; our reward goes to another if we aren't fit for service. Best to accept at face value.
Special prayer topics need a different plan in prayer. It is and resting on the Word of God, Belive and repeating the Words, Stand firm in a faith that the Lord really hears us when we pray. Someone posted a verse from Psalm 18:2 here the other day. I "directly adopted" those words. Those words explain the Lord! They are really Good, we must find our words that we know help us in that faith, into the conviction that we need to stand on the Word of God, solid as a rock. Never depart from those Words. And be a Living Dead to sin, but Alive to God in the Spirit! Romans 8
May God bless us all with wisdom and the spirit of understanding, so that we may see clearly, and judge all things, in Jesus Name. Do all things in Christ Jesus love.
"I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day." This engraving is a name for the 144,000 martyrs, which for want of authority i sahll skip. There are details with regards to the holiness of God which we shall not intrude. Joshua was dressed in filthy garments and as with message to the church in Sardid,"they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy./He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels."The Spirit sets this for all those who ears, meaning ears of faith.(Rev.3.4-5). In the vision of Zechariah we have the angel refering to his right 'to keep my courts.' Zec.3.6-7) "And the angel of the Lord protested unto Joshua, saying,/Thus saith the Lord of hosts; If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt also judge my house, and shalt also keep my courts, and I will give thee places to walk among these that stand by." Here we have those who inhabit new Jerusalem designated as neighbours" Now we shall consider v.10 "In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, shall ye call every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree." The Vine refers to Jesus Christ as the true Vine while the fig tree is an emblem for nation of Israel. "This parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none./ Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?" Compare it with Mt.21.19). The 144,000 martyrs belong to both Gentiles and the Jews. Joshua as the branch is identical with the role of Jesus Christ,(Isa.11.10)
I will begin with an early morning episode, I do not know if I was thinking in semi-conscious state or asleep and saw this figure in a trench coat stepping onto a platform and there was no head to speak of. A morning delirium it could have been and I said,'He has no ears, eyes or nose! 'As if in response he removed his head and instead I saw this stone. Soon came this passage of the stone with seven eyes in place of a body. Before I got up from my bed and began my chores it suggested by itself its purport: instead of the tree of life the body could be judged by the stone as well. I remembered Jesus declaring "And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder."(Mt.21.44). Then there is another familiar oassage from the book of Isaiah." Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the Lord: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged."(Isa.51.1) We shall come to it after we dealt with the vision of Zechariah.
Jesus Christ is the rock of offence to the nation of Israel, so the phrase 'in that day' in the passage is very significant.
"For, behold, I will bring forth my servant the Branch."
The expression 'behold' refers to the Word or the Law of the Spirit. Consequently the stone with seven eyes refer to the fulness of God in the rock which for jews is a stumbling block. Seven eyes refer to the seven spirits, as in 'stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.' (Rev.5.6)
"For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day."(vv.9-10)
10 In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, shall ye call every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree.
[25] For I have satiated the weary soul, and I have replenished every sorrowful soul.
My Respond: Thanking God for latter rain giving me blessings v24 to have a season and future seasons.
Joel 2:23-24 KJV
[23] Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month. [24] And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the fats shall overflow with wine and oil.
Wikipedia states Patrick Peyton, CSC (9 January 1909 - 3 June 1992), also known as "the Rosary priest", was an Irish-born Catholic priest of the Congregation of Holy Cross, and founder of the Family Rosary Crusade. He popularized the phrases "The family that prays together stays together" and "A world at prayer is a world at peace."
This is news to me I thought it was Billy Graham who came up with that adage. The second verse certainly applies today about a world at prayer. Anyway I may not agree with Catholic theology but I'll call out a truth where I see it. I won't get into stats here but apparently there is much truth to statistics proving the cohesion of marriages involving prayer and it is no wonder.
It seems some prayers but only a few are answered very quickly. If we remain in an attitude of prayer and meditate day and night on His Word no doubt we will learn to recognize His handiwork with people and situations that are His answer to prayer.
There may be some situations where we learn His ways in regard to difficult situations. I think of the widow who Elijah came up to the widow in 1 Kings 17. God directed this but it seemed pretty obnoxious of him to ask for water and food first when the woman was prapering her last meal before death for her and her son. But God apparently assured Him of provision; for those who were with the prophet were also to be blessed. When we get to verse 20 it is interesting Elijah's prayer And he cried unto the Lord, and said, O Lord my God, hast thou also brought evil upon the widow with whom I sojourn, by slaying her son? He then did a sort of mouth to mouth and the child revived. Interestingly we see a similar event in 2 Kings 4:34 along with a story earlier of miraculous provision by Elisha this time. Somehow God hid the meaning from Elisha as to her desperate emotional state until she spoke. She knew where to go to get results.
Surely we can't forget to give God the honor and praise worthy to His Name. The fact is though; that it can't simply be conjured up with music or emotion and have power to make a change that lasts in people's hearts. The Spirit doesn't magnify His name through some formula. This by no means indicates that we should take verses like the one above lightly or not be prepared to worship Him.
The same; perhaps could be said in regard to praying in our closets and corporate prayer. There is a time and a place for either event. This seems to cause some confusion when people have to obsess with hypnotic music in order to pray on their own.
It is clear that family time with prayers involving our own kids or spouse may involve things either not needed to be shared or inappropriate. At the same time we want to extend our prayers beyond our own comfort zone to edify the church and even others who may seek the Lord. I don't see anything wrong praying for those on the street; but if they are deliberately mocking God then it is counterproductive. More sobering is the case when a brother or sister is clearly in rebellion and living a lifestyle of sin when we need to separate and continue to pray on our own until the Lord breaks them. The concept of "guarding our hearts" ( Proverbs 4:23) should keep us from being around those who may tempt us to sin.
Our church should be a bastion of strength where as a family we can look out for each other and trust can be something through the Spirit that we sense over time. This is why it is so important not to let the world in and the enemy take us down. To be in the world and not of it is easier for some perhaps than others; but doing life together whether discipling or evangelism should build us up as a church family. Again as I often say it seems we don't see much of that today.
This is intriguing indeed considering how bold Paul already was as to a prayer He would ask others to give on his behalf. Paul's prayers were ever for the church who He prayed for day and night; in the case of 2 Timothy 1:3 I thank God, whom I serve from my forefathers with pure conscience, that without ceasing I have remembrance of thee in my prayers night (was said by Paul to Timothy).
Ephesians 3:14-21 14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,
21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
This beautiful prayer certainly shows Paul's wishes for the Ephesian church; which makes the situation in Revelation 2:1-7 even more pitiful. They had forgotten their first love.
And of course as I am sure I pointed out before we have prayers for Peter's escape from prison ( Acts 12:5-17) and Paul's miraculous escape also Acts 16:25-34 when prayer and praise of Paul and Silas was followed by the gates opening. This would lead at least the jailor and his family to faith in the Lord.
Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. ( Hebrews 7:25)
During the days of Jesus' earthly life, He offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the One who could save Him from death, and He was heard because of His reverence. 8Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered. 9And having been made perfect, He became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey Him 10and was designated by God as high priest in the order of Melchizedek. ( Heb. 5:7-10)
In Luke 22:43 we see that an angel from heaven strengthened Christ in Gethsemene; this was so that He wouldn't die before the cross as He was sweating great drops of blood with water at the time due to stress.
It is more than sobering to consider these things; as a man Christ had to "learn" as it were obedience and therefore God exalted Him. This is in regard to ruling and reigning on the earth but certainly it can't be emphasized enough that because of His atonement we can now be seated in heavenly places and Satan is already defeated. We see His sufferings and it is hard to handle the sorrow that it brings knowing that we put Him there and He had to experience separation from God and our sins for He who never knew sin. Therefore; there surely is no excuse for any arrogance on our part or lack of dependence on the Lord as He purchased us from the slave market where we were doomed to hell and we are now adopted sons of God ( Eph. 1:5).
Let us consider several ways He intercedes in regard to prayer. I have already considered our sinful nature and fleshly desires that may confuse our minds when approaching the Lord in prayer. There are also limitations we have as to intellectual unnderstanding of situations around us; and finally we don't know what is best for others of His ways.
I thought it would be encouraging to mention that one girl came to Christ as a result of VBS this past week; given there were less than 20 kids most days that perhaps is more impressive; but it is an answered prayer nonetheless.
Since I've discussed various aspects of prayer recently I am just adding some thoughts (which I often get out taking a walk and hopefully when I spend a few days in a recently purchased cabin I will have some more time to get my thoughts together).
I looked in the last post about the Disciples and what appears to have been a pattern with a lack of prayer; all the more confouding since they spent much time alone with Christ when He was nearby praying (although He would also be totally alone praying as well). The presumption therefore that they could handle what they apparently did in my last posting regarding the demon possessed boy since they did before when He sent them out is due to several issues. First of all being in the presence of Christ would certainly cause a great deal of confidence to be present as He clearly was understood to have miraculous powers; although the concept of Him being the Son of God who would have to eventually die on the cross wasn't getting through. Jesus had to repeat this over and over after major events since that was the whole purpose of His life; to end it making the atoement for all sins including that of the Apostles and other believers at the time. This would; of course require the Comforter of the Spirit and once the Resurrection had occured then there was surely much prayer until Pentecost followed by the great outpouring prophesied in Joel 2 that was fulfilled in part.
Whether prayer should be parceled out between having a discussion with God; praising Him and actually having petitions or requests makes prayer perhaps harder to define than it appears. Jesus now acts as our High Priest to interpret things which are pleasing to the Father and not mixed with fleshly motives.
There is only one tree of life. What does this line signify? "In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.' Firstly the Covenant of Seven days set the river of time secure with two witnesses they double as the two anointed ones. The angel and the body representing Christ become flesh. From this side of the river or the other side of the river as delineated by the Vision of Daniel they are oive dreams in the Vision of Zechariah. "that stand by the Lord of the whole earth."(Zec.4.14) Also in the Vision of Ezekiel," and palm trees were upon the posts thereof, on this side, and on that side"(Ezek.40.34)
Folding doors of the Solomon's temple had,"And the two doors were of fir tree: the two leaves of the one door were folding, and the two leaves of the other door were folding./And he carved thereon cherubims and palm trees and open flowers: and covered them with gold fitted upon the carved work"(1 Kngs.6.34-35)
Cherub and palm trees of the one door and on the other side represent the same idea. Christ as the door whether you consider your heart or of the world of the Spirit. This arrangement is established by the Law of the Spirit. Whosoever enters into the God's rest shall have access in his Son. " Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name./He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."(Rev.3.12-13) The believer is given a new name,"and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it." New Jerusalem is his city. (Rev.2.17)
"When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel./For the Lord's portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance."(Deut.32.8-9)
First of all settle the point which Adam are we talking about? First Adam or the latter Adam? God judged him by keeping a gulf between him and the tree. This is established in the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus. "Between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence."(Lk.16.26) The former had the Law of Moses. Lazarus in the bosom of Abraham refers to a body in direct frame of reference to the body prepared for his Son. Notice the adjective,'great' and it is set by the Law of the Spirit. The open valley brought him to the hell and from thence he shall be cast into the lake of fire. It is the inner man of the Rich Man' who is talking to Abraham. The place where he ends up he shall be tormented by worms that die not and fire that quencheth not. Memory of him is forever lost because it is not in the book of the Lamb.
The Spirit mentions the name of Jacob who also has a name chosen by God. "Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed." The Lot of his inheritance is El-bethel. Israel refers to the latter Adam to whom all power and authority is given. The risen Christ says,"All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." and also his presence is assured. "And, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen." As a proof we have the tree of life on either side of the river of time, indicating Alpha Omega aspect of the Word become flesh. "In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life,"(Rev.22.2)
Very glad to hear that the Lord is encouraging you through the prayers of His saints.
It is a difficult thing to deal with past trauma. I do pray that the Lord will not only comfort both of you but also bring you to the place of truly overcoming the effects of this trauma and have it no longer affect your lives.
Please remember that you have been buried with Christ and are now alive in Him. Likewise, your sins ad also your troubles are also buried with Him and cannot get the best of you. Jesus is your shield and hedge of protection. Although things that occur in our present lives can hurt us and enwrap us in the repercussions of such , but these things do not follow us into the life to come. And in the mean time as we await the fullness of our redemption, we keep our eyes upon Jesus, who suffered so greatly for us but emerged from all the evil that He endured victorious forever. He did this all for us and His victory is ours, too.
May you both be strengthened with faith that prevails through trials, peace that surpasses all that unsettles us and grieves us, hope for an end to our suffering, an attitude of forgiveness towards those who harm us, and joy in the Lord through the dificult times as well as in good times.
I have been praying for you and your sister. Please let me know how things go. I will continue to pray for the two of you.
I am doing a study in church on prayer next Sunday evening so thought it would be helpful to share some of these concepts here to help me be more organized and comprehensive in thought and also; Lord willing help to edify those on this site.
Last night one of our elders taught on the first prayer as stated in Genesis states in chapter 4; verse 26. There are different interpretations here; some saying that any conversation with God at that time was prayer; so we could consider man as soon as he was created in that role. Today; of course God doesn't walk with us in the cool of the day in a visible form and scripture once again is particularly vague when it comes to the conversations as to when it was a visible manifestation or just a sense or knowing of God's presence and responses to prayer.
I would separate a conversation from a petition or request out of a need to some extent; especially now when we don't have God or Christ visibly with us. The paradox here is that the Apostles (12 Disciples and others) didn't pray when Christ was physically on earth; but Christ Himself both withdrew with the Disciples to pray to God and on His own and it seems strange that they had to ask how to pray; and even more odd to pray as John the Baptist did. Hadn't they been observing or overheard some of what Christ was praying in the years of following Him? We remember that it was some time that His ministry had progressed that Jesus rebuked them for now praying in Mark 9:29 (we see only prayer in Luke's rendition of the same event); and even in Gethsemene and His darkest hour they couldn't stop and pray ( Matthew 26:40). These are sobering reminders that we should be ever vigilant.
In light of this; we should examine Christ's pattern of prayer and; although we don't have specific details on much except for Gethsemene why He prayed with particular emphasis on key timing of His earthly ministry.
Heavenly body prepared for the Son suffers no injury.
God has no pleasure in animal sacrifices because conscience of sins cannot be removed by any other/But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year./For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins." The writer to the Hebrews refer to the body prepared for the Son as perfect, the pledge for life everlasting. Redemption of of our souls has both upper limit and the lower limit. "For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven." We walk by faith in this earthly house which is our world of the body while world of the Spirit holds this glorious spiritual body as overarching above us.
Moses felt inadequate because he was slow of speech. What does God tell him? "Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the Lord?" (Exod.4.11) This speaks only for his earthly house. Where the body not made with hands is as glorious as of his Son. Does MTP or accidents of a natural world really spoil a believer's body eternal in heavens?
In Mk 9.44,46, 48 we have same verse thrice repeated. It is with reference to the hand, the eye and the mind. Does gouging the eye prevent one from lascivious thoughts? Does cutting the hand or foot help the case? In these doctrine of error man helps the devil because conscience of sins do not go away without submitting to Christ. By abiding in Christ we have faith and our fruits are assured of because of the Covenant. " Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever./For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:/But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you."(1 Pet.1.23-25)
"And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"
Here we have the purpose of the tree of life. He judged man for breaking the command. He sinned and came short of the glory of God. The tree has a body, reference of which in the Covenant under day Three gives us the incontrovertible proof of the existence of the body, to which we have the quote,"but a body hast thou prepared me. We shall come to the passage anon, but this body is not made with hands but eternal. "a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens." The fruit bearing tree whose seed is in itself refers to the eternal word of God. The everlasting covenant refers to the tree of llife. The blessings assured to man blessed of God is a building and it stands in relation to our body formed of the dust of the ground. This earthly house is vile but the same body prepared for his Son made Adam glorious as well. Without appreciating the significance of the Covenant under seven days how shall your profession of faith sound but hollow?
Tree of life was present in the garden of Eden as a prood of the body: Adam and Eve were covered by the glory of God. But his wilful disobedience, his sin made his life in close proximity to it untenable. Thus the covenant in seven days is underwritten by the Law of the Spirit and sealed by the Lamb 'slain from the foundation of the world.' Thus Advent was set beyond recall. As the Mediator between heaven and the earth we have the proof what nakedness meant, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"(Rom.3.23)
'We shall not be found naked' ((2 Cor.5.1-3) What we put on by the Covenant is a body: Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars: 'our house which is from heaven' has many mansions. (Prov.9.1) Heavenly body prepared for the Son suffer no injury and God has no pleasure in animal sacrifices
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"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."
Here Jesus refers to a body which is formed of dust of the ground.. Man is created in the image of God. It is in this sense the psalm refers to the Advent of his Son,"Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,"(Ps.40.7). The writer to the Hebrews annotates it in terms of works. Faith with which two worlds are framed by the word cannot be anyother than His holiness. Writing 'in the volume of the book' is a sign and the death of the Word become flesh on the cross consequently serves as the faith with works. When a believer in faith identifies himself with the rest of God it simply means he abides in Christ and as a branch of the true Vine produces worthy fruits. Soul is a sign of the body prepared for Christ that he shall put on. It is a glorious spiritual body and denotes the everlasting life.
Now we shall examine the clause,' but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." God breathed into the nostrils of Adam and made him a living soul. Notice the significance that the Spirit does not mention God making Eve a living soul. God is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Soul of man or inner man is Memory or Presence of the Lord so conscience is pricked in a natural man. In the case of Adam, God warned that he shall die in the day he ate of it. His sense of nakedness and fear of the presence as God walked in the cool of the day reveals a stark change. Besides physical Adam gave way to a latter Adam. To all intent and purpose the entire memory of the man has bee wiped out. 'second death' leaves inner man cast into hell, where worm dieth not. Hell into the lake of fire that quencheth not. ( Mk 9.43-44)God's gifts are without repentance so soul of Adam suffer complete annihilation. So who are sons of Adam?
The third valley is under the authority of the Law of the Spirit which we come across in the night vision of Daniel. 'The thrones were cast down' refers to both heaven and of earthly kingdoms. Judgment was set. Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever'. For this reason we have this " I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him./ And there was given him dominion," On one hand we have Alpha Omega aspect of Jesus Christ; secondly Jesus Christ as the Word which was with God. God has given all judgment. "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son.""( Jn 5.22-24) The believer who entered into the day Seven passed from death to life. "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life."(5.24)
Coming back to the Ancient of days,"his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire." and like water wheel this stream of fire flows an identical river of time, to the lake of fire that never dies. In this context what does the open valley in the Vision of the Valley of Dry Bones signify?
Second death is for sons of perdition.
" He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death."
An interesting aspect of the message to the church in Smyrna is the aspect of death which is presented as being not part of the risen Christ. There is a physical death and it is attributed to the devil. 'behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." Trials and tribulations are part of a physical world and as God had warned Adam, in the day he disobeyed him he would die. After death and hell are cast into the lake of fire there is only life everlasting and what God is all in all would mean? every saint redeemed from the earth shall be holy as He is holy. Consequently this crown of life is as a tiara 'holiness unto the Lord'.(1 Cor.15.28; Zec.14.20)
"And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all." Death and hell cannot be part in the kingdom of God nor can corruption or instrument of death, meaning the lake of fire. What is a worm that cannot die? We have the saying of Jesus regarding hell: 'where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. ( Mk 9.48)
God rested on the seventh day into which the blessed of God shall enter by faith.(Gen.2.1-3) The two worlds framed by the word of God operates by faith so the valleys as mentioned in the scripture are either closed by the word of God. The two olive trees and two candlesticks signify the two anointed ones. The Holy Spirit puts emphasis on this bt repeating the Vision. "And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord./Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth."(Zec.4.13-14)
Valleys running Up Down and across are secured under the authority of God and of the Word become flesh respectively
horribly obvious where he was n needed help.bunch of us prayed for him, fasted.
12 days later it reached a boiling point ,he was released from hell......after 7 yrs. it took evrything from evryone on both sides to make it happen
dont know exactly why he was there, dont want to know but all evidence points to,He didnt make the Freewill Choice:
thats why telling this if you have a loved one that hasn't made the Freewill Choice Do what ever you can to get them to....
the last 2 verses here are both True,the man in hell says if one of my brothers See someone in'from hell they will change
im here to tell ya,that is True... n what Abraham says is True also if they had no interest then why will they at any time but that was with words, also maybe lightly pointing to another meaning maybe that it wasnt ment to be or whatevr
most important thing is avoid that place