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Rick Colombe:

Man is God's INSTRUMENTS, he does all the WORK'S of God through man.

Man just does not have the KNOWLEDGE to believe God is doing EVERYTHING, through man.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Jeremiah 51:20 Thou (man) are MY (God's) weapons of WAR ......

Isaiah 10:5 O Assyrian, the rod (weapon) of MY (God) anger, and the staff (weapon) in thy hand is MY (GOD) indignation ...

Isaiah 45:1 ...to Cyrus, whose right hand I (God) have holden, to SUBDUE NATIONS .....

Daniel 4:34 ..... and MY UNDERSTANDING RETURNED .....

Daniel 4:35 ....and he (God) doeth according to HIS (God) WILL ..... among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

God had a purpose for Aaron, also a purpose for those that perished, Aaron also DIED, just a differennt APPOINTED time.

God knows what he is doing and EVIL always works to GOOD.

Genesis 50:20 ....you thought EVIL against me, but God meant it for GOOD ..... to keep many people ALIVE .....

Judas betrayed Christ; EVIL, the Father meant that betrayal for GOOD: to keep all people ALIVE in Christ Jesus ....

Hosea 4:6 My people perish FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE .....

God Bless YOU!

David and Chris,

Last part.

whether or not one has right doctrine or not, but values sensationalism and felt beliefs based on emotions or spiritual experience to form their beliefs.

We are to use our minds, as Paul suggests, to come to understand truth, not our emotions or experiences. It is sad what now passes as true spiritual expression in many churches. Many of these expressions are so similar to what is experienced in those who follow New Age practices or pagan practices. What a deception. All because people have turned of their minds to correct teaching and understanding, been groomed by false teachers, and put a premium of 'feeling the presence of God sensually" rather than in a manner that truly aligns with God's Spirit and instructions for decency and soberness in worship.

I am not saying we need to return to dry formality. But saying that we should look at worship practices with a critical eye and align our practices up with the teaching of Paul in the word.

Anyway. I've said enough on this for now. Have a blessed day, and always have a questioning heart about what is said by others and done by others who claim to be "in Christ", yet be willing to be led by the Holy Spirit in all righteousness and truth.

David and Chris,

cont.

Therefore anyone who continues to hold this dispensational viewpoint into the Tribulation will receive upon themselves all of the plagues of the book of Revelation. It seems that faithful believers who do not add to Scripture will not be recipients of the plagues in this book of prophecy, as Rev. 21:19 seems to imply that this is the case. If those who add to the prophecy receive the plagues, then those who do not add to the prophecy will not.

The church has been groomed by the dispensational error for almost 200 years now. It has become ingrained into the mind and fabric of so many believers and churches/seminaries/universities. So, coming to the topic with a critical eye in order to see if what is taught in dispensationalism aligns with Scripture is very difficult for those who hold to it.

Satan is very cunning and smart. He is just as happy to use false teachings within the church as without to deceive Christians. It is wise for us to seek the wisdom from the Holy Spirit to check to see if one's beliefs align with Scripture AND be willing to forsake and repent of those that do not align.

There is a BIG sense in the church today to avoid what is referred to as doctrine. Many churches even profess to be non-doctrinaire. The letters of Paul speak in many places about teaching and receiving sound doctrine. Believers do need to change their negative attitude about doctrine since the word simply means right teaching that is supported by Scriptures.

We also need to resist running after whatever seems to be the "new" new thing that circulates among believers and churches. We should always be wary of what seems to be "taking Christians by storm". We need to learn lessons from the past concerning following after false teachers and ideas so readily.

Some don't value having right doctrinal beliefs, thinking it is "leftover" from the "traditions of men". But the Scriptures speak differently that this attitude. Some don't think that it matter

Dear David and Chris,

Everything I mentioned on my list of Dispensational beliefs I have heard on this site by posters and also from some research on this theory. I am not implying that ALL dispensationalists believe ALL of these things, but it is true that there are pastors and teachers and writers that are teaching each of these beliefs.

When Revelation 22:19 speaks of adding to or taking away from the prophecy of this book, it is specifically referring to the Book John wrote of the Revelation he received about the how history will pan out.

There curses associated with these actions are very BIG: the adding onto the one who adds to the prophecy all the plagues listed in this book and the removal from the Book of life of those who take away. Both are very serious curses. We should be very sober minded about this topic.

So, the question is: Does Dispensationalism add to or take away from what is recorded in Revelation? I think certainly it adds to the prophecy in such ways as:

--- the pre-tribulation rapture that Paul warned about in 2 Thessalonians 2:3

---the setting up of the OT sacrificial and priestly system along with strict adherence to the OT laws and celebration of the feast days in the Millennium. I don't read of that in Revelation.

---that Jesus will resurrect people in three batches years apart.

---the nation of Israel will inherit the earth and the Church will inherit heaven.

---that the raptured saints will have the Marriage Supper of the Lamb in heaven during the 3.5 years of Tribulation without ALL of the redeemed.

---that the raptured saints will return from heaven with Jesus when He comes again to destroy the Anti-christ, etc. The truth is that there will not be any raptured saints in heaven to come with Him when He returns. The ones that come from heaven with Jesus are the angels, as Jesus said in Matt. 24 and elsewhere.

This just a handful of ways Dispensationalism adds to Scripture. ...continued

Whether you believe in God or not, read this message!



Throughout history, we can see how we have been strategically conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that the Bible foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?



In the book of Revelation 13:16-18, we will read,



"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.



Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."



Speaking to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why so? Revelation 13:17 states that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!



These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!



This is where it comes together. It is amazing how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. Here are notes from someone named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:



"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying and controlling the peoples of

Whether or not you believe in God, this message is a "must-read"!!!



All throughout time, we can see how we have been slowly conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that the Bible foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?



In Revelation 13:16-18, it states,



"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.



Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."



Speaking to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why so? Revelation 13:17 tells us that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!



These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!



This is where it comes together. It is shocking how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. These are notes from a man named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:



"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying and controlling the peoples of the w

Regardless if you believe in God or not, this message is a "must-read"!



All throughout time, we can see how we have been strategically conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that Jesus foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?



In the book of Revelation 13:16-18, we will read,



"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.



Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."



Speaking to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why so? Revelation 13:17 states that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!



These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!



This is where it really starts to come together. It is incredible how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. Here is information from a man named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:



"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identi

He's now running a fever.

My dad is no longer talking, and he is extremely weak.

His blood pressure is extremely low, as is his oxygen intake, and I pray to Jesus, St Michael, St Raphael & St Bernadette.

Thank you God for bathing us in the blood of Christ.

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I belong to a local Episcopal church in Cupertino, California. I pray that everyone

seeing this message reads it with their deepest intentions, and that it is URGENTLY shared widely; with church groups and the like.

My name is Daniel Mart. My dad, Eric Richard Mart, is not a believer. During the fall of 2021, he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. Although my dads kidney numbers were found to be perfect (thank the Good Lord), he remains extremely sick, which is very very concerning. When awake, he is like a zombie, and his appetite is still poor. He is extremely extremely weak. Often times, he is confused, and he has trouble communicating.

And he has started to need oxygen.

I am, TBH, quite concerned. He has been taken taken off chemo; as of now, there is nothing to stop the tumor growth.

He is extremely close to passing away.

Lord, you are I truly, truly believe the greatest physician of them all. I command the cancer in my dads body to leave; forbid cancer cells in dads body to multiply, in Jesus name. I command existing cancer cells in his body to die; the spirits of death & fear in him to leave, in Jesus name

I ask that the Lord come with His wonderful healing presence, and complete the healing and work His glory in my dads body, in Jesus name.

I ask that the Holy Spirit come to fill and encourage my dad, and to minister to him, in Jesus name. Please protect him, Lord, and heal him.

I realize that I am not the best Christian; far from it, actually.

Today, right now, I repent of all my sins.

My extreme pure OCD - sexual OCD, TBB - and depression - at times quite manic, with bipolar - makes everything so entirely challenging; many a time have I slipped.

KD,

The Book of Jasher is an extra biblical book that is not included in the Bible. It is quoted in both Joshua and 2 Samuel. It mostly covers the first five books of the Bible and ends with Joshua's death. the original and authentic Book of Jasher has been lost since ancient times. The Book of Jasher inprint to day was created in the 1700's and is most likely fraudulent. It includes statements that go against what the Bible says.

Verse by verse explanation in simple language. I am learning the bible.

Sorry I'm late on my response I haven't been on here for a while working little too much lol

Yes you are correct The word rapture does not occur in the Bible but The term comes from a Latin word meaning "a carrying off, a transport, or a snatching away." The concept of the "carrying off"the church is clearly taught in Scripture.

God "snatches away" all believers from the earth in order to make way for His righteous judgment to be poured out on the earth during the tribulation period. The rapture is described primarily in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54. God will resurrect all believers who have died, give them glorified bodies, and take them from the earth, along with all living believers, who will also be given glorified bodies at that time. "For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever" ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).

Where is the scripture in Isaiah Prophesized since the Jews disobeyed God. And that's where God wanted to go to all of us Gentiles. Thank You, Keith P. Besch

Exodus 20:13

Romans Chapter 1 verses 18 through 32

I would advise you to follow the words of Jesus in Matthew 28:19 and disregard the churches that teach otherwise.

But, if you are aware of these churches that teach differently than what is written in Matthew 28:19, go to them amd

share with them the truth.

Different places

I wasn't even looking for the answer to my earlier question, I just stumbled upon it a few minutes ago.

1Thessalonians 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

Yes we are assigned to wrath...As Jesus said every sinner will have his part in the lake of fire....Which is his baptism of the H.G. and FIRE....The only way his vengence ( his wrath ) can be satisfied is by the lake of fire....His wrath is his love whom the lord loveth he chastens.... Hebrews 12 :8...If ye be without chastisement then are ye bastards and not sons....But we cannot tell ppl we are not assigned to wrath....When ye say things like that you are in essence saying we don't need his baptism of the H.G. AND FIRE...Nor his lake of fire....Jesus said every sinner MUST have his part in the lake of FIRE....Which is his baptism of the H.G. and fire.....Then and only then are we made free from his wrath....YA GOT TO RIGHTY DIVIDE THE WORD OF GOD

Whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire...Our names are written in the book of life when we are baptised with the H.G. and fire...That New BIRTH IS WHEN His wrath is satisfied when we are washed in his blood... That NEW Covenant in his blood is the book of life....Simply b/c he wrote this book with his own blood....

Behold i send the Promise of my father upon you... Luke 24:49...Which was baptism of the H.G. AND FIRE.....The only thing that satisfies his wrath....We cannot do away with his baptism of the H.G. and fire.....Thats y he is saying every sinner has to have his part in the lake of fire....As our God is a consuming fire that has to consume our old evil adamic nature....

Jesus is a man of war...there is vengence in his heart... Psalms 55:21....Thus his wrath....His words were softer then oil but war was in his heart and his words were smother then butter but they were as drawn swords....Thus we see that there is war in his heart...Vengence ...thus wrath....But whom the lord loveth he chastens....Thus his wrath is his love for humanity...But if there was no wrath no, No chastisement then we wd be bastards and not sons... Hebrews 12:10....

Virgil Birkenfeld:

PROPHECY:

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit WITHIN YOU, and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep MY JUDGEMENTS, and DO THEM.

You DIED with Christ, YOU WERE RAISED with Christ, this is the POWER OF THE RESURRECTION.

You are now the BODY of Christ, everything you say, will to do, or do is CAUSED by the spirit of TRUTH and LIFE WITHIN YOU.

Very FEW BELIEVE God's word.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (spirit) which WORKETH IN YOU, both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery .....Christ in you .....

Matthew 7:14 ...narrow is THE WAY .....FEW there be that FIND IT ....

John 14:6 ....I AM THE WAY .......

1 Corinthians 12:27 ...Ye are the BODY OF CHRIST .....

FEW BELIEVE God's word.

Psalms 82:6 I (God himself) HAVE SAID, ye are gods, the children of the most high.

Your the dwelling place of GOD, your are doing the very will of God 24/7.

The question is? Do you believe God's word?

God Bless YOU, as our Father brings us to TRUTH.

Chris,

I have been thinking today about our dialog on how we each approach and interpret the Bible. I think I've been clear regarding what I believe to be the Biblical approach and have provide some scriptural basis for that belief. So I won't take time to reiterate that here.

I suspect based on our dialog and other comments you have made that you embrace the Dispensational view of the Bible. If I'm incorrect, the rest of what I say here may not apply.

I read what GIGI posted regarding the various tenants of Dispensationalism and I find most of them at first blush unsupportable from the Bible and contrary what God Himself declares as to how we are to approach the Bible.

The idea that God has written certain parts of the Bible to be applicable for certain segments of mankind and not for others, I believe, has the effect of diminishing the authority of the Bible for Mankind in general, and is a view that I could not hold. The Old Testament is equally important for Jews and Gentiles today just as is the New Testament. And each part of the Bible needs to be applied in interpreting every other part of the Bible with that understanding in view.

I know you are familiar with Rev 22:18,19 where God sets very sever penalties for adding to or taking away from the Bible. And I suspect you would agree that recognizing any extra-Biblical writing or proclamation as the Word of God itself and therefore of equal authority as the Bible would be a violation of Rev 22:18.

However, have you given any thought to how the Dispensational approach to the Bible relates to Rev 22:19. That would be a verse I would seriously consider personally if I were deciding on how to interpret the Bible. And it likely would prevent me from adopting the Dispensational view, if GIGI's research is correct. Food for thought.

I wrote a comment earlier today regarding the Book of Hebrews and would be interested in how you approach that Book and some of the things that you believe it is teaching.

Hi Donna,

Yes I do, too.

So we should definitely be prayerful asking for stronger faith and the will to stand in the day of trouble. I read a good article from Corrie Ten Boom (from the 70's) about believing that God will help us do this. She was living proof of this as she survived captivity in a concentration camp under Hitler.

She was a believer who hid Jews, was captured along with her sister, and put in the camp.

She recalls the stacks of dead bodies that accumulated daily in the camp. Her sister was one of them. But her faith stood in the time of trouble.

She also spoke of traveling around the world meeting up with Christians in places like China and Africa where thousands and thousands of Christians were routinely martyred by the Chinese government of the time and in African countries. This happened all over the world and still continues.

Those of us in western countries have had it pretty good in comparison. But the time may come that we, too, may be the ones martyred or held in captivity. We should be preparing ourselves for such a time, memorizing the Scriptures because we may no longer have our Bibles with us, being faithful in prayer, and be aware of what is happening in world events.

It is not pleasant to think about these things and the temptation to desire an easy way out (such as the pre-trib rapture) can therefore be persuasive. But Scripture refutes this theory, and therefore it is false and dangerous.

Chris,

Agreed, those who participate in church assemblies are not all at the same place in their walk with the Lord. Some are truly of the faith. Some are mature believers. Others are quite newly reborn. Some are searching. Others on the verge of being saved. Others may be in an assembly all of their lives and appear to be saved but never are.

We should be prayerful of the assembly God has placed us in, praying for those we know there, those that are new to the fellowship, those we know are caught up in sinful ways, and for our pastor and leaders.

Only God truly knows the heart and future of each person who comes into a fellowship. We should be welcoming and genuinely care about those God brings into our sphere of friends. We also need to be available to make new friends and serve God by being a godly guide to those God adds to our sphere.

There will also be those who do not fellowship in a church setting, as David seems to be. And we should love them and extend fellowship to them, too, as we do on here.

The true church of God is, as you say, and invisible congregation that God knows and has elected. We should be thankful that He determines who will be called and elected, not us. We would fail so miserably in our present sinful condition despite being saved and indwelt.

I know many in church fellowships that are sincere believers who serve the Lord obediently in these fellowships. I know pastors that administer their office faithfully. So we cannot put everyone in churches nor every fellowship in the same basket of reprobates as David has done. Jesus said He will build His church. Paul and the apostles established church fellowships in the cities they preached according to the lead of the Holy Spirit. I believe that this is the primary way Jesus build his church.

There may be a time when the apostasy is so great that true believers may need to "come out" of the congregations. But I don't think this is necessarily the time of that.

Asking for strong protection, for the Lord to fight our battles, for peace and help with all the stress and for Him to deliver us from bondage, save those of us who are not yet saved (majority in the family) and heal soul and heart wounds (some from childhood trauma). Please pray He would stop abuse and confront those who are walking in ungodly ways. Also for a better job. Please also pray that our church would become a praying church and evangelize. We are in an area where there is a lot of spiritual darkness. I ask all these things also for all others in need. Thank you for praying.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 kjv, Romans 10:4 kjv,

Galatians 5:1 kjv, Revelation 3:10-11 kjv.

Dear Rick, I have often wondered the same thing. Aaron was chosen by God to be the High Priest for the Israelites. He failed in making the golden calf. But we are not told why God did not take Aaron's life along with the others. But it may be that He was especially chosen to lead with Moses that his life was spared. Aaron's grave sin was not going to prevail over God's purpose for him in that time in the wilderness.

Hi Whisper, actually the Lord gave me the word "night" yesterday and I believe it was about you. I want you to know the Lord is with you, and what I do is pray and read the Bible for a few hours when things like this happen to me. Read 30 chapters of Psalms, that helps too. I'll be praying for you. God bless you.

Prayer Request:

Brother Jonathan heard a loud scream, saying "Please Help Me, I'm Sorry what I've done." Brother Jonathan will talk to his parents about this issue, send prayers about this.

Hey everyone, please pray for me. I'm in a relationship where I'm just fighting with this woman everyday. It doesn't seem like it's what the Lord wants. I am also trying to get my finances together and I can't do it without Jesus. Please pray for me.

Jane, You have been seduced by false doctrine. There is no lillith and there was no sex in the garden of eden. These are doctrines of devils to seduce people to believe lies. You need to repent of any sin and I pray if you have an unclean spirit it come out of you in the name of Jesus. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. May god the father reveal the truth to you through the power of his holy spirit. God please deliver Jane from these lies. These are vile and filthy lies from satan and I rebuke them in the name of Jesus Christ.

will you pray for me im bieng frustrated in at night with nightmares(its more of like spiritual attack ,it appears to be real almost everytime