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Thank you Shunda

:-) Happy Birthday Christina!

Praying for you today that the Lord will bless you.

Dear David

Please pay attention to 1 Corinthians 12:4

"Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit."

Diversities of gifts given by the same Spirit, not just one gift, which (gifts) are manifested (in the congregation) as tongues, prophesy, miracles, healings, faith...etc

GBU

For I will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 31:17. I pray in JESUS name that Latonya recover from surgery and it will turn out great and she continue to have faith in the LORD. Now faith is the substance of thing hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1. AMEN!

AWESOME! didn't know that

One Eighty Its interesting that you mention gnostism because that was one of the infiltrations of the church early on

that's why in timothy Paul writes there is only one mediator between God and man the man Christ Jesus making reference

to the exalted saviour sitting at Gods right hand.

If our all mighty Lord: God created everything who created God ?

Lord I'm asking you to cover GIGI in the blood of the lamb and to heal her in JESUS name. I pray that you take away all the pain, and swelling. GOD perform a miracle on her right now. Amen!

Jesse I see all these inputs I have one question if Jesus was God the exact same entity then why did the devil and any devil spirits that he cast out call him son of the most high and even the devil in the temptations called him son of God. Who knows

better who you are then your arch enemy who by the way knew the scripture and at one time was Lucifer Gods right hand angel.

It's an honest observation also in the very end in revelation he will hand over all power back to the Father of all God Almighty.

Robert it doesn't get any simpler than what your sharing, also in heaven right now Christ is sitting at the right hand of God

God can't sit beside himself. God Bless bro. see you at the bema!

Richard in regards to prophecy there is no gift of prophecy. in 1 Corinthians 12:8 paul switches from gift of the spirit to manifestations of the gift. The gift is holy spirit but their are nine manifestations or outward displays of the operation

of the gift. they are speaking in tongues interpretations of tongues prophecy word of knowledge word of wisdom

discerning of spirits faith miracles and healing. these operating correctly in the church are always operated in love and order

like all other thing of the True God.

Suze, just to let you know, you are in no way upsetting or offending me. And I hope not to upset or offend you either. You said we are all reading from the same bible, but if that's the case, why do we come up with different conclusions? Can you point to someplace in God's word that tells me that Jesus was a created being? I'm not too sure about that one. Thanks!

God is our tower fortified by His Word ( the Bible) ,His Love for us,He protects us,provides what we need. God Bless everyone !

What would have happened if Adam eat the tree of life

Dear Suze

Jeasus was/is a perfect man and simultaneously God. In the Bible one has to distinguish between verses that are referring to Him as a man and verses that are referring to Him as a God.

ie. 1. As a Man

As a man Jesus was praying to God, was filled with God's Spirit, He was lower than God, He doesn't know the date of rapture, He sits at rhe right hand side of God, He didn't permform any miracle on His own but was always asking for Father to do them, He was ressurected by the power of God, He was given the HS who He sends to dweli in believers,... etc

2. As a God Jesus never used His divine power, it is what those verses in Philippians say, He never tried to overcome his human nature (He could go on for ever without sleeping, eating, getting tired but He didn't do that), He knew what was inside the heart of any man. He was sinless, many verses that have been already stated by others make obvious His divine nature..I just remind you what He said to Jews once "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." John 2:19. Him not Father not Holly Spirit. Here Jesus talks as the Godhead.

So let's not be confused and mix up verses that either show Him as a man or as a God. He is both. My opinion...

GBU

Thank you Adam,

Heading to the doctor soon to get this checked out. My calf where I got stung is very red and swollen, more so than yesterday.

Jesus didn't want anybody knowing he was God the Son....Every miracle he did he wd always say....see that no man know it...It was all hid from the wise and prudent but revealed only to the babes.....The baby Christ which is the H.G....As that Which is born of the spirit is spirit...The Spirit of truth that are spiritual infants....Thus they cannot speak of them selves..for a time....Thats y you will neva read where he (Jesus) telling ppl that he was God....He didnt want anybody knowing that great truth...Till the book is opened in the Fathers right hand...Which is that new Covenant that he wrote with his own blood....No man in heaven and earth cd look into it....John said i wept much b/c no man in heaven and earth cd look on it.....His deity was hid....God didnt want anybody to know it...just yet....The only thing Jesus wanted the world to know was he is the son of MAN...Which is mankinds

fruit unto God. via his seed the word....Our New Birth

Most agree that the Apostle Paul had poor eye sight caused by the bright light at his conversion on the road to Damascus; which would hamper him when writing, hence he had others (stenographers) to write for him with one exception which was his letter to the Galations which he writes that he wrote to them in large letters. Many believe his "thorn in the flesh" was his poor eyesight.

Thank you Chris,

You explained this well.

Brother,

Your concordance would have given you 7 eggs which would have been plenty for some delicious eggs benny!

This verse and others inform us that we are an integrated being with soul, spirit, and body. God willed that we possess all three of these to be a living being. This verse says, too, that we will be redeemed spirit, soul, and body when we are resurrected. So, in eternity we will continue to be this type of being with soul, spirit, and body. However, our whole being will be changed, possessing immortality and having all corruption removed from us. The sinful nature will be removed from us permanently. We will have a sinless glorified physical body like Jesus has now in heaven.

Robert,

Adam has given you several great pieces of scripture to support the claim that Jesus is indeed God.

It is true that the bible does not say "Jesus is God" in those exact words, but it also does not say (in your words) that "Jesus was spoken into existence." Jesus was not spoken into existence. To believe that, we would also have to deny His deity.

You ask, "So what's hard to understand that Jesus is the Son of God?"

It's not hard to understand. I believe Jesus is the Son of God. But what does the phrase "Son of God" mean? What did it mean to the Jews? If Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, was He wrong for doing so? Obviously to the Jews, Jesus was claiming to be God Himself. For that claim, they accused Him of blasphemy and the penalty according to Leviticus 24:16 was death.



Did Jesus ever claim to be God? John 10:30-33 would indicate so. Jesus said "I and my Father are one." Notice who He's saying this to? The Jews! In Verse 31, it says they took up stones to kill Him. So what was wrong with Jesus' claim? Why would the Jews want to kill Him for saying that?

The answer is in John 10:33. They wanted to kill Jesus because He claimed to be God. To them He committed blasphemy by making Himself God. They took up stones to kill Jesus for saying "I and my Father are one." Notice that Jesus didn't say "Wait a minute guys, before you stone me, I think you are misunderstanding what I said, so let's talk about this?" Jesus did not correct them because what they said "thou, being a man, makest thyself God," is exactly what Jesus meant.

In Matthew 16:16, Peter gives the correct response to who Jesus is; "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God." Peter was a Jew, and he knew exactly what he was saying when he said Jesus was the Son of the living God. To a Jew, the phrase "Son of God," or "Son of the living God" is the same as calling someone God Himself, and that's exactly what Peter said in his response to the question Jesus asked.

I receive that prayer on behalf of Patricia. Amen.

God help us get through this part. Love covers a multitude of failures. I've always loved my sister no matter what. She lost a son to a firey 18 wheeler crash. He was driving a 2nd shift for a drunk partner driver. He was like my son. He was a Christian and died instantly.

Thank you all for prayers and comfort. See you soon.

Hi Chris,

I think most of us agree God is Spirit. John 4:24. I can't help but question though, how can Spirit become flesh (man). The Bible clearly indicates Spirit and flesh are opposites. John 3:6. Should we not seriously consider that Mark 3:23-26 establishes a principle in truth that also applies to God? Thus, if God rises up against Himself, and be divided, He cannot stand, but hath an end. This would reflect "dualism", which is "Gnostic" in nature.

Please explain verse 21 more clearly. A Christian friend just told me we can use guns.

If we are living for the Lord, he will protect us

Hi Jessica That is correct we are born natural man totally antagonistic to the things of God until either by instruction from

believing parents or communication from another believer or direct intervention from the father we are born again and receive

Power from on high i.e. confess Romans 10:9+10 And believe it in the innermost part of our being heart. We have sinful blood

the only innocent person with perfect or sinless blood was Jesus christ.

Please Lord heal Miss K. that is suffering with a pinch nerve I ask in the name of Jesus Christ also help her family member that is in hospice pass over to heaven peacefully. Please Holy Spirit bring comfort to the family during this time I pray in the name Jesus Christ!!

Richard Biblical prophecy is either forthtelling what gods word already promised but the speaker is talking by inspired

utterance or foretelling the future. Examples luke 2:25-35 also ACTS 2:14-37-this is all inspired utterance from holy

spirit of past present and future also not all were judean and it is unscripted. The idea of teaching people that if you give money to God you get blessed in return is a phallacy because you can be giving in other categories to bless the body of Christ and that's honored. Also in the first church i.e. book of Acts show me where people were told to give and I'LL eat the book, people gave because they were delivered and blessed not being told if you don't give God won't bless you. poelpe have so called prophecied

that the united states is going down, that's not prophecy that's already written that any nation that practices or worships the

adversary their land will spew them out. Years ago a believer came to me that went back to a drug problem and wanted help

I told hin to move in but if I see and traces of drugs he's gone. Three days later I came home and he packed his bags and I met

him before he left and he said I'm sorry and I said if you don't change Iwill never see you alive again. Six months later he was

dead, was that prophecy no it was 2 Peter 2:21+22 the dog went back to his own vomit. So when people say God told me this

or that as long as it lines up with it is written fine if not the enemy is expert at what he does.

Prophecy today: Concluding thoughts

suppose someone today went into a mega church and stated that unless damnable heresies stopped; leadership and congregants alike would come to an early demise. One could argue from the example of Ananias and Sapphira that this would be an exhortation of love to the believing remnant to resist such falsehood or get out before it is too late. This is just a hypothetical example; but if we don't understand the principle involved in God's prophetic utterances then it seems like a disjointed message that often can result in a "self fulfilling prophecy" if Satan is in the background pulling the strings. Something as simple as the warning to the Laudician church should be enough of an appeal to wake people up from their slumber. If we love God then we fear Him and keep His commandments. We understand that all things have consequences; whether promotion or demotion; God gives and takes away ( Job 1:21). Judgments prophesied come because of repeated disobedience with clear warnings for a long time. As the Word says nothing comes to pass without a warning from the Prophets ( Amos 3:7). With so MANY voices; including false prophets; we need to heed to the Word any messages that either contradict scripture or have an evil spirit behind them. Without discernment many churches are totally lost; because almost no one wants to hear or can HANDLE the truth.

With the unpleasant messages true prophets usually bring; they likely wouldn't want it broadcast (especially if a rebuke of a church is part of the message). This is much the same with other miracles; someone truly delivered from a demon should only be on video if there is sufficient backup or witnesses to the validity of their testimony; and there can be evidence they are truly delivered from the fruits in their lives. Discipleship in general seems to be unpopular today with such sideshows. A true statement is a warning to the lost of their sure fate without repentance.