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Greetings in Christ JESUS
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Giannis, you (maybe others too) think or imagine the "dogs" mentioned in the Word of GOD are aggressive, quite the opposite, they are those who give (maybe disingenuously and cynically) a "special treat" to people, smilingly hug people giving friendly pat on the back of the brothers. Terrible, very terrible, this kind of behavior of the "dogs" in the Church is danger, a stumblingblock, a trap, this kind of behaviour explains the why Paul Apostle warned the brothers, saying: Beware of dogs..., and JESUS asserted saying: Blessed are they that may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
How can brothers "beware of dogs" if they do not discern and identify not who they are?
NOTE:
Paul Apostle said to the brothers of Galatians that "Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children". This interpretation by allegory is very deep in material and spiritual terms. Impressive. And the dogs-Phil.3:2, who would be them?
Welcome back. I missed seeing you here. I hope you had an enjoyable vacation. God Bless!!!
Frankie,
You say "Let's look to the Spirit which inspired the Holy Scriptures for our understanding of them," but how can you, not yet being born-again, guide a born-again believer in the ways of understanding scripture? How can a person who does not yet have Christ dwelling in them even understand the things of God based on what we are told in 1 Corinthians 2:14? So, if you don't have the Spirit of God, and the things of God are spiritually understood, and the natural man just has his normal psyche, he's not going to receive it. He can't, because the things of God are spiritually taught by the Spirit of God.
Frankie, as I said earlier, I do have a concern for your spiritual welfare. I hope that one day soon, I will read your words sharing with us that you have received Christ into your life and are born-again or born from above as Jesus told Nicodemus that "Except a man be born from above, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
Frankie,
You ask, " Rom 6:1,2,6, it speaks expressively the intent of God's heart. Holy Spirit seals it by repeats in twice."
I am not sure I am understanding your question here, but in order to understand this section of Romans Chapter 6, there are some terminologies that we need to know which are Justification, Reconciliation, and Sanctification. All three of these terminologies happen when a person receives Christ, when they are born-again. They're not in different stages.
You say that "if one sins in the least, the devil is still a prince & has dominion over him," and you give Romans 6:12-15 as the source of your statement.
Paul starts out by saying, "Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body." How can he say that? It is because he is leading us into the fact that when we get to Romans 6:14, it says that sin shall not lord it over you. That is a factual statement, not should not, but it cannot! What this is saying is that the sin principle no longer lords over the person who has the indwelling of God's Spirit.
So, if a believer does commit a single act of sin, it is because they made the choice. When they were not saved (born-again), they didn't have a choice. But once they got saved, it's the power of God's Spirit in them that gives them the power over sin. This does not mean that a believer will never sin.
Frankie,
You sent me some verses with questions for me to answer. You asked, " 1 John 3:2-3, does this not say all that has this hope, we will be like Him, pure as He is pure?"
This is not talking about our walk here on this earth. As long as we are in this body of flesh, we can never be pure as Jesus was pure. 1 John 3:2 is the confirmation of the future. When the Lord comes, He's going to be in a different dimension. He will be functioning in the Spirit dimension, that dimension we cannot see.
When the Lord calls us up, and Paul mentions this in 1 Corinthians 15:51-54, he says I want to show you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye at the last trumpet. For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. Our physical body is changed into a spiritual body. We will be in the same dimension, and we will see Jesus just as He is. That's the hope of the believer. It keeps us going.
You ask, " 1 John 3:4-5, how can we be in Him & continue to sin in the least, in Whom there is no darkness at all.
The answer to that is given in 1 John 3:9. You might believe we do not or cannot sin in the least because of these verses, but that's not the case. A believer will still sin. But a believer can no longer live a lifestyle of habitual sin. In other words, a believe can no longer practice sin. That is the literal meaning of 1 John 3:9.
(Part 1 of 4):
I would like to start back with my original post on Romans 8:9 which says, "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. But you are not in the flesh, but you are in the Spirit, (if so be) the Spirit of God dwells in you."
What part of my original post are you disagreeing with?
Frankie, I am still concerned for your spiritual welfare since you yourself stated that you have not yet been born again. If this is the case, then you are still in the flesh and still living in your sin since the Spirit of God does not yet dwell in you. God forbid, but if you were to die in this state (void of God's Spirit), not being born again, what do you suppose would be your fate? Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3:3, "Except a man be born from above, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
You referred to 1 John 3:9, which reads, ""Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." Your understanding of this is different than mine. I say that a born-again believer will still sin, but you seem to disagree. Even if it were true that a born-again believer does not sin, or cannot sin, where does that leave you if you are not born-again?
When the children of Israel were instructed in this matter (e.g. Exodus 31:12-17), they too were to behave as their LORD did; they could work as much as they wanted to, even to the point of exhaustion, in the first six days, but had to set apart the Sabbath to desist from all work, to rest & recuperate in readiness for the 'new week'. God is Spirit & as such never tires, unlike us who are in the flesh & will always need time off to regain our strength & focus. Therefore, as He ceased from His Work after it was all done and saw that it was very good, He instructed His people to do likewise & to sanctify the day (to set it apart as one dissimilar to any other day of toil & other activities). And this keeping of the Sabbath was a clear sign to Israel that they belonged to Him; no other people on Earth received this 'perpetual covenant' - and to this day Israel adheres very strictly to it. Now if only Israel would receive their Messiah & put their faith in Him alone, things would have been a lot different for them (then & now) as God's special people.
Considering the definition and description given by Brother Jesse and Brother Giannis.
"wild untamed, impure, and grungy"
It's fair to say these dogs "as a people" had no master!!
Certainly the dogs thats defined in the Greek translation mentioned in Revelation.
The Gentiles do fit that description.
Ephesians 2:12. That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Just a thought.
God bless.
There is zero pressure to respond, I am meditating on this with you.
Carleton
"And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven WITH HIS MIGHTY ANGELS,"
Maybe this is what the "behold he cometh with clouds" represent?
I will comment on the frogs, but first you said let him who reads understand, that's it.
NO ONE but NO ONE will understand, without God CAUSING them to understand, there are people that have read his word for years and years and still don't understand.
It's all God's choice and God's work, and if you DON'T AGREE with him you can read non stop and will never understand.
When God's word says something and you don't AGREE with his word, what little light you HAVE BEEN GIVEN he will take away, if you AGREE then more light will be given ..... Matthew 13:12 ....
If one is studying and not going forward in TRUTH, he needs to examine his BELIEFS whether they aline with God's word, if they don't aline, REPENT of your sin of UNBELIEF, all other sins are covered by his blood.
Matthew 5:25 AGREE with your adversary (the WORD) quickly, while thou art in the way with him (the WORD), lest at any time he (the WORD) deliver you to the judge (the WORD), and the judge deliver you to the officer (death) and ye be cast into prison (the grave).
The wages of SIN (unbelief) is death.
I will start another thread on the frogs.
God Bless YOU!
Because God is always good, He will always be kind. Isaiah 54:8 says His kindness is everlasting and it is this kindness that leads Him to show compassion and bestow mercy. These attribute are all wound together. This interwovenness of attributes is truly evident here with kindness, compassion, mercy, and love. God is not made of parts, as we are, with physical and spiritual parts that make us a whole. God is a unified whole and so when He shows kindness it is His whole being that is acting, not a distinct compartment of His being. God says He is One, and this shows here in the complete unity within Himself of all of His essence. So, as many theologians have said over the years, God is His attributes and His attributes are God because He is not divided into parts (attributes that create a composite being. More on this in later posts.
God's kindness is, to us, an action He bestows to us. We receive it from Him. It is such a delight to receive His kindness and to know that He will always be kind consistently. He is not one to waver back and forth as with the blowing of the wind. He is constant in His essence and so we can trust in Him to always act in a way that is truly good for us all things considered. In the life to come, we will drink of His kindness forever and ever, which will give us everlasting joy and contentment. His loving care for us will lead us to endless praise of Him and true worship that delights Him. He will delight in us and sing over us, as is said in Zeph. chapter 3.
Matthew 7:6, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."
What does it say here about "dogs"? That they will turn against you and tear you. That is what those people do. Tear other people.
Also dogs were considered unclean animals in the Old Testament. So those people are unclean and aggressive. We all know what people like that are like. Once you meet them and realize what they are like, you keep a distance from them, you don't want to be biten, do you?
GBU
I will try to give an explanation to those verses but not now brother, I don't have much free time before the weekend. It is actually a difficult topic with many giving different interpretations. So we will talk about it later. GBU
"stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth./ And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
We have been focussing on the book with seven seals while the seven horns and seven spirits were right there enforcing the will of the Father. The Lamb had prevailed over the nations to judge the ungodly world.
"And they sung a new song, saying," Theme of the new song is on salvation. Moses had sung it after God had thrown the chariots of Pharaoh's army to the sea. "The Lord is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him." (Ex.15:2) What is mentioned in Ch.5 we have repeated, "And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders" (Re.14:3). And we hear it sung again after the seventh angel had sounded, " And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever."(Re.11:15) Thus three versions of the single event are presented.
Seven angels with trumpets sounding are vengeance being meted out to the ungodly world.
Breaking of first four seals explain how wars hunger famine and plagues became the 'new' normal in the world. With the fifth seal we are shown the body of martyrs whose cry reaches the throne. (6:10-11) White robes are given to them "that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.". So the seven spirits of God or rather Spirit of Christ in particular has completed their tasks. It leads to the day of wrath. " For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"(6:17)
There are different places in the prophecies that say Christ will pour out the same plagues that were poured out on the Egyptians.
But, they want be LITERAL as they were in Egypt.
Hail mingled with fire was one of the plagues in Egypt, as was frogs.
Ezekiel 13:11 ....oh great hailstones shall fall, and a stormy wind shall rend it....
Ezekiel 38:22 And I will plead with him with pestilence and blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon many people that are with him, and overflowing rain, and great hailstone, fire and brimstone.
Isaiah 30:30 And the Lord SHALL CAUSE his glorious voice (his word) to be heard, and shall show the lighting down his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the FLAME of a devouring FIRE, with scattering, and tempest and hailstones.
So all these are SYMBOLIC of something that is going to judge God's people, as did the plagues judge the Egyptians.
John 5:22 ... God hath committed all judgement to the Son ...
So these symbols of judgement are symbols of Christ, and Christ is the Word, and the WORD(S) of God JUDGES US.
John 12:48 ... the words that I have spoken, the same words will judge you .....
Isaiah 28:2 Behold the Lord has a mighty and strong one (the WORD), which as a tempest of HAIL and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters, shall cast down to earth with the hand
Isaiah 28:3 The crown of PRIDE .....
Isaiah 28:5 In that day (of judgement when one believes God's word) the Lord (the WORD) shall be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty,unto the residue his people.
Isaiah 28:8 But they (the residue of his people) have also ERRED THROUGH WINE (explained in other scriptures, but is not alcoholic wine), and through strong drink (not alcohol) are OUT OF THE WAY (Christ is the way) .... they err in VISION and stumble in JUDGEMENT.
I will continue in a second comment on the frogs.
God BLESS YOU!
Therefore, leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2
Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Key about GOD' WORD is, it is marked through with His plan of SALVATION from beginning to end. (Foundation of the world). Key word salvation No secret.
Heb 6:3
And this will we do, if God permit.
Heb 6:4
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb 6:5
And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6
If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh and put him to an open shame.
So, it is impossible to fall away? The Lord Christ cannot be crucified again in the eyes of THE Most High?
Jas 2:19
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Are the devils trembling because they BELIEVE OR UNBELIEVE?
Isa 28:9
Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk and drawn from the breasts.
Isa 28:10
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little
2Ti 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
Amen.
Thank you for your replies.
I would like to clarify that It's actually a Bible study and not a discussion, so who are the dogs acccording to the expresses Scriptures?
Until this moment I have been trying to bring the brothers to interpret the Scriptures as those who are inside them, and not as those who speak of them, but being not inside but on the outside looking at the Scriptures.
What is important for all of us is to identify through the Word of GOD who the dogs are mentioned in Revelation 22:15 and Philippians 3:2, which will be left out of the kingdom of GOD that will be established in this seventh and LAST millennium or seventh and last Day, the Day of the Lord.
Who are the dogs, then? Wouldn't the answer or identification of them be in the Old Testament? Wouldn't it be interesting to identify who the dogs are specifically, so that we are all protected from these dogs as Paulo wrote to the Church of Philippi? saying: Beware of dogs, ... Phil.3:2.
Again: It's actually a Bible study and not a discussion, so who are the dogs according to the expresses Scriptures? There are many here that know Scriptures deeply, so could anyone give us where is written who the dogs are in the Old Testament, and that we all know how to protect ourselves from them?
Perhaps someone here or many may have been "bitten" by a dog in the church they attend, and do not discern that a "dog" bit them. It is important that each of us is vaccinated, I mean, knowing who are dogs is as if be vaccinated and protected from them .
GOD bless and be careful
And if it's already Done it shouldn't suffer either. Pray after me Jesus you says that it is done and I ask that I will not suffer in flesh for his sake.
I will harvest too not to be used
Jeremiah foretold this, "Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast."(Je.31:27)
Now we shall look at the day of vengeance indicated by the opening of seven seals. "and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."(5:2) The same rider we see again,"And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True," (Re.19:11) Jesus Christ setting out to conquer is in control. His Father's promise 'Until I make thine enemies' thy footstool is what the vision signifies. The second rider on the red horse we see in Re.19:19-20 where the enemies of his Son are thrown into the lake of fire.
The bound book 'written within and on the backside' carries two set of families children of light and of wrath. The book of the Lamb is yet another. Written within and on the backside' has a parallel,"And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years./And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died."(Ge.9:28-29) By the same token Satan is released after 1000 years and of the ungodly we have 'their lives prolonged. In the Book of Daniel it is differentiated as 'season and time'. All these come within the day decreed for the Son.
Tribulation is about quenching the Spirit and not physical death,- and life in Gaza would be more or less explain it, Matt.24:29 indicates we are seeing about us wickedness ever on the rise and life of the Spirit is trivialized with all the activism spewing from the pulpit.
In this second quoted from the Hebrews, we see how the Lamb came to prevail upon to be found worthy. "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:"(He.1:3) First the Son as the Word become flesh had to purge our sins. The Son had to fulfill the will of his Father and prove his claim, "Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God."(He.10:7). In the Psalm 110 he was placed at the right hand and the writer to the Hebrews is spot on to say,'he sat down on the right hand' as before. That makes one full circle.
This proof period of the Son to fulfill his earthly ministry we have from these instances, " but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father."(Matt.20:23) and "And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power."(Ac.1:7) Now having purged our sins he upholds 'all things by the word of his power,'.
We shall look at the vision of St John, "And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?/And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon." But one of the elders consoles the Apostle,"Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof." (Re.5:1-5). Here earthly antecedents of Jesus is given. The Spirit instructs us to the fulfillment of the Will of God has both heaven and the earth in unison. The Lamb and the Son of man are one and the same.
" The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."(Ps.110:1)
Here we have the divine Will concerning his Son. 'Until I make thine enemies thy footstool' is an indication of the divine Will. When Jesus declared,"My Father worketh hitherto, and I work"( John 5:17) we can understand both heaven and the earth are as one. How God in heaven set about quelling the riot of the enemies of Christ we have in two visions.
The one in Daniel is about an everlasting kingdom. "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him./ And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him.(7:13-14). Enemies of Christ were dealt in the nations which figure in the vision mentioned before. They are specific as well as they continue 'for a season and time. (Dan.7:12)
Second vision is not about one 'like the Son of man' but of a Lamb, " As it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."(Re.7:5)
What we are really focussed with these posts is to show the days weeks, months and years are all set to work at the behest of God the Father whose will is to make all the enemies of his Son, his footstool. Isaiah for instance said, "the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;" All these happen simultaneously so when the Lamb break open seven seals these are all set in motion and not one after the other. Similar to the seven pillars or days set forth in the abstract. (Ge.1:1)
In the Psalm God tells the Son, 'Sit thou at my right hand' which establishes the Father Son relationship goes before the worlds were framed by the word of God. (He.11:3).
You misunderstood my comment. I meant the scriptures refer to people having the characteristics of dogs, aggressive people, goats not sheep.
I know ordinary things in the word, such as dogs, can have hidden meanings that help us understand other verses of scripture.
I will attempt to uncover you mystery meaning of dogs.
Fowls of the air carry a hidden meaning that helps understand other scriptures.
Do you know the hidden meaning of the fowls of the air.
There are a great many things that have hidden meaning, so I have no doubt that dogs could be one of them.
God BLESS YOU!