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Shabbat Keeper

I thank you for your kind words. I just see things are going exactly according to scripture and rather 'criticise' the world I just humbled my heart, looked inward and realised I was no different. I don't want to be like the world anymore. I just want to stop eating the fruit that Adam and Eve ate and turn back to God if that makes sense. But my lack of knowledge makes it difficult for me to understand exactly the true doctrine of God. After all satan knows the scriptures better than I and there are many "doctrines of devils". I know and believe Christ died for my sins but I just can't believe "faith alone" where we can wallow in sin. Abraham was told and Abraham obeyed. That is my kind of faith, or at least I try. I'm not sure if that is the right faith to have. I feel like I am on the verge of understanding but I am missing a piece or 2 of the puzzle so to speak. Never let your candle burn out like the "unwise virgins".

I thank you again for your kind words and may God our Father guide you in to all truths. Peace to you in Jesus name. Amen

where was God when Satan entered the garden and deceived the woman.? Since we believe that God is all-knowing and omnipresent. I don't just get it, He should have used His power to stop and prevent Satan from entering the garden in the first place.

I think there is a correlation between the life of Adam and Eve before they eat the forbidden fruit and the life of a young baby, pure clean, innocent, ''blind'' naked, and never ashamed.

Jordyn

I thank you for your reply but my understanding isn't quite where it should be. You say cease from my works yet I am to walk in His statutes and judgements and DO THEM. I'm sorry for my lack of understanding but this confuses me. I just want to be a ( James 1:23) doer of the word and not a hearer. lol

I thank you for your time and patience with me.

Peace be with you.

relationship between Moses not getting to the promised land but appeared at the mount of transfiguration.

Please help me understand the meaning of Galatians 5: 19-21?

Ge.22:14-19 "Beersheba" (2 of 2)

So how we fit in the body of Christ is His task. He proved his faith when he died for us, Will not God then give us al things pertaining to our lives and godliness?

v.17 "That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies." This verse is recalled in the Epistle to the Hebrews, "Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable./These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth."(He.11:12-13)

God's promise to Abraham was renewed at Jehovah-Jireh so in our workaday world we are interacting with the world without as though we are in Beersheba. It is a world of contentions and our piece of mind is tested against the irritations and vexations it brings. Abraham had his own share. 21:25-34



"And thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies," recalls the curse,"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."(Ge.3:17) God's promise to Abraham still stands. (v.17) "Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate."(Ps.127:5) Psalm is referring about hell as Jesus refers to the church. "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."(Matt.18:16) Christ is the only foundation. The same rock in the above mentioned Psalm is compared to 'his quiver'.

Ge.22:14-19 "Beersheba" (1 of 2)

"And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of theLordit shall be seen."(v.14)

"To this day" an expression the Spirit uses in order to fix the events in context of the Son.There are too many examples to put in one comment, and one instance we have here:"even unto the great stone of Abel, whereon they set down the ark of theLord: which stone remaineth unto this day in the field of Joshua, the Bethshemite."(1 Sa.6:18) We have been foreknown and blessed so the emblem, the atonement and the glory that waits, come under the holdall of eternity. The Lamb slain refers to the context of the time of calling, which is irrevocable. So the phrase' before the foundation of the world' is embedded in the now; All his promises are yea in the Son. The throne of God and of the Lamb is ahead of us. It is how we translate the Word become flesh in our present frame of reference.

As St Paul explains,"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:/According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love."(Ep.1:3-4). The condition 'that we should be holy and without blame is not what we can manufacture by our own will or merits. It is the grace which came by Jesus Christ. So we walk by faith, "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me."(Gal.2:20)

"Unto this day" therefore has a specific weight in terms of Abraham and also for us. It is the Spirit's way to indicate where our wherewithal comes from. We are 'dead' in a manner of speaking so our body as was Abraham ("and him as good as dead,"He.11:12) is for the eternal word to fashion it whichever way our Lord would have it.

Ge.37:12-20 (2 of 2)

"On his father's errand"

The logos aspect of Jesus Christ was there in bodily form as Joseph was in Dothan. 'Joseph went after his brethren and found them in Dostan.' By setting parallel account of Joseph and Jesus we are given a ringside view of the effect of Law of Moses on the nation. As soon as his brethren set eyes afar off what was their reaction. "Come now therefore, and let us slay him.". They hated his dreams as much as they hated his person. Jesus well knew his presence had left them with no cloak to hide. "I know that you are Abraham's descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you."( John 8:37-NKJV) "If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin."( John 15:22)

In addition to this parallel narrative the Spirit serves another symbol as dreams of Joseph convey the role of the world of the Spirit. We carry while abiding in Christ the body of Christ as was prepared before the worlds began. This is faith in quintessence. By abiding as branches our works are what our lives show. Envy, rancor and divisions as we see that the activism of modern churches causes are not from God. Nation of Israel had no cloak to hide when Jesus came among them. Their conspiracy finds parallel to what faced Joseph in Dostan.

What is the significance of Dostan? It was where God heard the prayer of Elisha. "Open his eyes,Lord, so that he may see." Then theLordopened the servant's eyes, "(2 Ki.6:17).

Joseph was there at the mercy of his brethren. The Spirit uses the name to evoke that there was no way they could escape their heinous crime from retribution. Joseph's story is a commentary as the fate of Israel after they had rejected Jesus and killed him on trumped up charges. The word of God 'shall prosper in thing whereto I sent it.'

Ge.37:12-20 (1 of 2)

On his father's errand"

"And his brethren went to feed their father's flock in Shechem./And Israel said unto Joseph, Do not thy brethren feed the flock in Shechem? come, and I will send thee unto them. And he said to him, Here am I./And he said to him, Go, I pray thee, see whether it be well with thy brethren, and well with the flocks; and bring me word again. So he sent him out of the vale of Hebron, and he came to Shechem."(vv.12-14)

The Spirit in order to inform us the role of the patriarchs and the nation of Israel specifically in relation to Jesus Christ recreates a snapshot from the life of Joseph. He is the heir of promise and as such wherever they are set down in the narrative they also in the narrative has a double function: one of which is as the double for the Son. His brethren proved to be incapable for receiving the word of His grace.

When John writes, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life,"( John 3:16) it is about as much as the word of God and as of the world.

Good soil is distinct from the bad. So the word of God defines children of light and of darkness.

Israel sends Joseph to seek out where his brethren are, see whether it be well with thy brethren, and well with the flocks and bring me word again. There are four elements. God is concerned for the world which cover both his brethren and his flock. The relation between the Father and the Son has to do with the Son of man as well. This is what Isaiah annotated in this verse."So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it."(Is.55:11) God sends his Son in due time.

Ru.2:17-23 "A Day's work" (2 of 2)

"And she took it up, and went into the city: and her mother in law saw what she had gleaned: and she brought forth, and gave to her that she had reserved after she was sufficed./And her mother in law said unto her, Where hast thou gleaned to day? and where wroughtest thou? blessed be he that did take knowledge of thee. And she shewed her mother in law with whom she had wrought, and said, The man's name with whom I wrought to day is Boaz."(vv.18-19)

Ruth and Naomi were companions in suffering while in Moab,- and in a way their suffering was partly owing to their being part of the divine Will. Naomi administered the good news of her salvation which lay in the direction of Bethlehem. Unknown to her God guided them both through sufferings that are part of their world of the flesh. If there is famine that corrodes the body there is also famine for the word of God. Naomi was a living example of the fatness of the soul fed from the eternal word of God. Ruth was not blind to it and it works out slowly and when she also followed her to Bethlehem they were in time for barley harvest. St Paul speaks of it in his epistle "As ye are partakers of the sufferings, so shall ye be also of the consolation(2 Co.1:7)". The day's work brought Ruth before Boaz and also lead to circumstances which prove to be a blessing for everyone concerned..

Ruth 2:17-23 "A Day's Work" (1 of 2)

So she gleaned in the field until even, and beat out that she had gleaned: and it was about an ephah of barley.

About seven and half gallons of barley which was a days work. In providing manna God showed what was a day's work.What Ruth collected was meant for Naomi as well. God commanded the children to Israel to gather manna 'take ye every man for them which are in his tents.' Naomi had served as a messenger from God as it were, in bringing her to the Lord who went visiting his people. The Gospel of God when served as manna the spiritual significance therein still holds good. It meant, 'each gather according to the gifts given from above. Thus the young widow gleaned for her aged mother-in-law as well. Isaiah's expression 'the lame takes the prey' is relevant in this context.

We shall refer the Book of Exodus for a commentary on God's provisions for his people.

"And when the children of Israel saw it, they said one to another, It is manna: for they wist not what it was. And Moses said unto them, This is the bread which theLordhath given you to eat./This is the thing which theLordhath commanded, Gather of it every man according to his eating, an omer for every man, according to the number of your persons; take ye every man for them which are in his tents.17And the children of Israel did so, and gathered, some more, some less./And when they did mete it with an omer, he that gathered much had nothing over, and he that gathered little had no lack; they gathered every man according to his eating(Ex.16:16-18)".

Ps.24:7 "King of glory"-2

This death is physical which has its spiritual ancillary. He tasted death once for all so we may be brought into the selfsame glory. It speaks of New Jerusalem and old Jerusalem is no more for the living. "For it became him, for whomareall things, and by whomareall things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.:(He.2:10)

Jesus is the captain of our salvation. or rather he led the way. "And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it./And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day".(Re.21:24-25)

Compare this with Isaiah's prophesy:"Open ye the gates, that the righteous nation which keepeth the truth may enter in."(Is.26:2). Also this verse, "Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; thatmenmay bring unto thee the forces of the Gentiles, andthattheir kingsmay bebrought."(Is.60:11)

please pray for My daughter Jessica and her husband Adam

Ps.24:7 "King of Glory"

"Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in."

Jesus riding into Jerusalem is specific which according to the narrative mode of the Spirit has its spiritual ancillary. In the gospel we read, "And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest."(Matt.21:9) Multitudes going before similarly has its multilayered meaning. 'The multitudes point to the prophets as in the epistle to the Hebrews, "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,/ Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,"(He.1:1-2). They 'that followed' by the same token agree with those whom the risen Christ sent "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations," (Matt.28:19)

The city doors were only one part in his circuit to the glory that awaited him. These doors signifying Jerusalem is only associated with the Word become flesh and beyond that to its everlasting shame we have this condemnation," And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."(Re.11:8)

We have another gate through which God sent his Son the King of glory to enter. God out of the whirlwind asks Job,"Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?"( Job 38:17) He is the king of glory because he triumphed over death. "Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it."(Ac.2:24)

"And this is the gate of heaven," which Jacob saw in his dream,(Ge.28:17) through which Jesus Christ went up. "Why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."(Ac.1:11)

Lee the Follower:

Cease from your works, come into the sabbath rest, God's WORKS were finished from the foundation of the world.

You DIED with Christ on his cross, you were resurrect with Christ, a NEW CREATION.

You and Christ became ONE FLESH, married, you now have his name.

You now have his faith, and all the works, by your hand, he does through you.

Jeremiah 51:20-23

Obadiah 1:21

Ezekiel 36:27 And I WILL put MY SPIRIT IN YOU and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes and keep my judgements and DO THEM.

God Bless YOU!

Koosees, Stewart Kurtis my name. God Bless you.

I remember this started with sharing 2 Tim 2:15-18. And as for 2 Tim 2:15, that's what I'll do.

I have a question or maybe it is a comment with a question mark. Hoping someone may be able to either affirm my interpretation of Mat 24 or shed a different understanding. As I read this scripture, I am understanding that Jesus is telling us the steps as they will happen to His returning and that even though no one except The Father knows the time we are to be ever watchful. Not fall for false prophets, false christ. AND....that the Rapture (removal of the faithful) does NOT happen before but, AFTER Tribulation. I am finding that by reading scripture myself instead of depending on the church that I have been lied to all my life, we all have- by false teachers. Satan goes through these churches, religions that are not of God and misleads us into believing everything will be fine. Relax. Go to sleep. Someone else will watch for you. You still have time to sin a little. I am angry at how gullible I have been. They lie saying "they are in a better place now", when someone dies. Not unless the ground is a better place because the Bible plainly says the dead know nothing, are as if asleep, until Jesus comes back to gather all, living and dead, that have been and were faithful. ??

Hello friend. I am in agreement with what Adam has just shared with you: that the mention of Mohd or even an allusion to him is nowhere found in this verse, or indeed anywhere in the Bible.

You appear to be someone who is interested in what the Bible has to say to us, even considering the rich heritage that both the descendants of Isaac & Ishmael share from the olden days. In your consideration of this prophetical Book of Isaiah, we need to remember that this book & indeed all the Bible Books are written in an historical & chronological manner. Unlike the Qur'an, where the writings are purportedly made from isolated revelations received over a period of time, the Books of the Bible were written by men moved by God's Spirit ( 2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:21), but were given in a systematic historical way. So when we take a verse or portion of the Bible to teach or defend a belief, then we must look at the whole - or else, our understanding will be skewed & we will be led into error.

Since you're looking at the prophecies in Isaiah, if you would care to begin at Isaiah 13:1 right through to Isaiah 23:18, and you will notice a series of denunciations by God against particular lands/nations. Through his prophet Isaiah, God denounces Babylon, Philistia, Moab, Damascus, Ethopia, Egypt, Babylon (again), Edom, Arabia (the part you're referring to), Jerusalem, & Tyre. So when you refer to Isaiah 21:13, the specific passage is from Isaiah 21:13-17, where God's Judgement is found in verse 16, that "within a year, according to the years of an hireling, and all the glory of Kedar shall fail". Even though Kedar was a powerful Arabian tribe, the reference here are to all connected to her. All these suffered judgement under God's Hand.

But at the appointed time, God sent forth His Son Jesus, the One Who came to receive our judgement & punishment upon Himself (for our sins). Without Him we would all be condemned, but those who believed on Him would receive forgiveness ( John 1:11,12).

Stewart:

You are BORN AGAIN by the word(s) of God.

You have to let those words destroy you carnal mind.

As you carnal mind is destroyed and you come to truth what God has done by the death and resurrection of his son, then you will develop a deep relationship with God.

All is a finished work, you do nothing, just come to knowledge, through his words, what he has done for you.

God BLESS YOU!

I don't fear death. Only fear I have is of God, which the beginning of Wisdom. And I do agree the Word is no supposed to be a complicated book. But the rest you kinda lost me, the Holy Spirit our Comforter. God is the one that we pray to in the Name of Jesus Christ. And I would rather be healed but the meeting in the air could happen before that. Thankful my days are numbered is a first for me. I am thankful each day God gives us all, and to those that are lost. Each day is a day brought to us all by God's Grace, for no man knoweth the hour when that day comes. Could be before my days are over, only God Knows. As for deliverance God will either deliver me, or he won't. To be absent from the body is to present with the LORD.

Shabbat Keeper:

I know the two resurrection you speak of, most believe what you believe.

The word speaks of Christ resurrection, then the resurrection of those who never believe that were raised with Christ.

Colossians 3:1 ... if ye be RISEN with Christ ....

Ephesians 2:6 .... and hath RAISED US us up together ....

Isaiah 26:19 .... TOGETHER with my dead body shall they ARISE ....

Hosea 6:2 ..... in the third day he will raise US UP .......

The saints that arose with Christ, were the Old Testament saints that had died in faith, but had never receive their promise of eternal life.

Those: in Revelation under the alter clothed in white are the Old saints awaiting their promise, eternal life, by their resurrection of Christ.

These are the 144,000 raised with Christ, the firstfruits of the resurrection.

Hebrews 11:39 And these all, havlng obtained a good report through faith, received not the PROMISE (eternal life).

Hebrews 11:40 Christ having provided some BETTER THING FOR US (never having to die and wait in the grave), that they WITHOUT US should not be made PERFECT (by our resurrection as one).

Hebrews 5:9 ...and having been made perfect .... by our resurrection as one ....

Philippians 3:15 Let us therefore who be perfect (by our resurrection as one), be thus minded: and if in any thing you be otherwise mined, God shall reveal even this to you.

God Bless YOU!

Thanks You Jordyn

I thank you for your response. I think but seeing its in other scriptures its not telling us Heavens direction. Which is ok, we does tell us will do for me. His word is enough for me.

Here is one prophecy of Christ.

Matthew 27:46

"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me?"

Psalms 22:1

"(To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.) My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?"

John 19:30

"When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, He said, It is finished: and he bowed His head, and gave up the ghost."

Psalms 22:31

"They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this."

God Bless You

Hi Lee,

That's another great verse. I wonder if anyone has ever counted all the names of God. He is the Truth in this crazy, messed up world. He is Faithful in his promises to us. I can't wait to see him on the white horse. :) Thanks for sharing.

Public school ruined my children's faith. The fact that you are on fire for the LORD is beautiful and maybe a miracle knowing what I know about public education.

This verse is for you: "When thou said, seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, I will seek". Psalm 27:8 KJV.

And here is another: "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breast. For precept must be upon precept; precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; hear a little and there a little." Isaiah 28:9-10. KJV.

I am also learning and memorizing. It's a daily thing, a labor of love. May the LORD give you all understanding. Amen :)

Lee the Follower:

I am an old man, very computer illiterate, I found this website looking for a KJV site that I could magnify, my eyes are not what they once were.

I don't know facebook or any of these social media sites.

I have a flip phone, only because my daughter instructed me to do so, i don'i text, bearly can peck out comments on this forum.

I will be happy to confer with you on this site.

I study the word all day long, so I read the comments along with my study, and will respond to you.

God Bless YOU!

Hello, I don't see any verse mentioning muhammed. Isaiah 21:13 mentions Arabia but I think it's a stretch to say that has anything to do with this person. I think some are eager and motivated to draw a connection to him and are trying to find any possible connection instead of simply reading the Bible and trying to understand its normal meaning.

The Bible is clear that no one can be saved and enter heaven without Jesus Christ.

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12 KJV

Heavenly Father, Virgil1963 was bold enough to asked his brothers and sisters in Christ to pray for him. He has acknowledged his stray from You. Father God, reveal Yourself to Virgil. You love him. Virgil please read the Bible, pray and find a church that believes in Father God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. God bless you.

Hi Jordyn, the two resurrections that I was referring to are :

1. the resurrection of the dead at the second coming of Jesus Christ.

2. And, then 1000 years later, the resurrection of the wicked to receive their judgement.

I was not referring to the resurrection of our LORD which, in my opinion, is a special and separate deal. By the way, it's so interesting because after Christ rose, some of the dead were resurrected and seen in Jerusalem. The Bible says Jesus took captives in his train when he returned to Heaven. That's exciting. I wish it would've been me in the train. Oh well. I'll be patient. :)

Heavenly Father, You sent Your son Jesus to heal Placido. Jetaime and I claim Your promises to Your children. All health issues, stomach problemsall be found out just what it is and what caused it. We want the miracle for Placido. We believe in You. Thank You Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

Hi Jordyn, Yes, I do think those verses are referring to the pagan practices of worship etc. and, yes I think Christmas trees come from exactly those pagan practices. Those are good verses to point out.