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What does the bible say about infants and small children being baptised, I cant find any thing??

Please remember me and my family in your prayers.

You're welcome Nick34.

There's comfort in that!!

God bless you

Hi Lodebar,

God's calling is consistent. Some are called to be prophets to which the name Jeremiah is pre-eminent. (Je.1:5) Some are called to be helps, teachers etc., Ephesians remind us of the same. The Bible being god-breathed it bears names of holy men crediting them as authors, more accurate would be to call them as having taken dictation from the Holy Spirit. Conversations quote unquote therefore owe their truth to the Spirit.

St Paul writes as to how the Spirit helps us with our prayers.(Ro.8:27-28) The same holds true with dictating what transpired between parties where the Spirit is setting down precisely the truth, ("Thy word is truth"). For example Jonah praying from the belly of the fish only the Spirit could do justice. So faith is essential in order to understand how several parts in the God document relate to one another. Literal approach will not be of much help.

Ps.124 "In the name of our Lord"

"If it had not been theLordwho was on our side, now may Israel say;/If it had not been theLordwho was on our side, when men rose up against us:"

This song of praise acknowledges the Lord God who shall not withhold any good thing from those who fear Him. "For theLordGod is a sun and shield: theLordwill give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly."(84:11)

'Our help is in the name of theLord, who made heaven and earth.' (v.7)

The first two lines state the enmity of flesh against the Spirit, 'where men rose up against us' for reasons obvious in that God a Spirit has made a common cause with a nation whose walk is different. Their upright heart has instilled fear and hatred in the ungodly. "Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name."(91:14). This name is what connects us to the Lord God where the time as we know it has no bearing. It is not that we chose him but He set his love upon us. "Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not." This name is what our soul represents.(1 Pe.1:8). From the Parable of Laborers in the Vineyard, we have agreed upon our hire charge, did we not? Now the question is how well do we know him?

"Then the waters had overwhelmed us, the stream had gone over our soul:/Then the proud waters had gone over our soul"

Proud waters going over the soul explains our struggle with wickedness in spiritual places. The kind of online bullying in our times which do kill the vulnerable kids in their teenage explains how Satan shall use our very own strengths to fell what we cherish most. That is sin which rides along the world so world so the progress of the ungodly comes at a price. Soul of the unwary is forfeit in this unequal war. 'Blessed be theLord, who hath not given us as a prey to their teeth. Our help is in the name of our Lord who spared not his own Son for our sakes.

please remember to pray for my daughter Jessica and her family today

Ps.123 "Unto God of all mercies"

"Unto thee lift I up mine eyes, O thou that dwellest in the heavens./Behold, as the eyes of servants look unto the hand of their masters, and as the eyes of a maiden unto the hand of her mistress; so our eyes wait upon theLordour God, until that he have mercy upon us."

Everyone of us is like the laborer in Parable of the Laborers in the Vineyard (Matt.20:1-16) When God breathed into the nostrils of the man and made him a living soul this covenant set the price and period of service. Soul is the hire price,-a penny and we are accountable to God. Redemption of our soul is the whole duty of man. For this reason the Psalmist compares how every faithful servant would try to please his master to the uttermost. 'Have mercy upon us.' In the vineyard not all works are the same, Fortifying the soil, pruning, gathering grapes in season are all parts of service. Kings, counselors, bureaucrats clerks are all labels and each one attends to their tasks and are accountable to God. "Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences."(2 Co.5:11). How diligent should we then knowing the time is short we need to make our calling and election sure.

"s it a time to receive money, and to receive garments, and oliveyards, and vineyards, and sheep, and oxen, and menservants, and maidservants?"(2 Ki.5:26). In the age of moonlighting Gehazi would have been the poster boy for the preachers who want holiness and also line their pockets.

3Have mercy upon us, OLord, have mercy upon us: for we are exceedingly filled with contempt.

4Our soul is exceedingly filled with the scorning of those that are at ease, and with the contempt of the proud.

3Have mercy upon us, OLord, have mercy upon us: for we are exceedingly filled with contempt.

4Our soul is exceedingly filled with the scorning of those that are at ease, and with the contempt of the proud.

Brother Jesse:

I have no problem when parties disagree, it's part of God's plan, he sets brother against brother and sister against sister.

God Bless YOU!

Hello All in Christ,

Is EPHESIANS 1:4 in any way related to JEREMIAH 1:5.

Thank you for your reply

Prayers for my husband John Tedder. His doctor just told us he possibly has prostate cancer. He goes for an MRI in a few days and more tests. I ask in the name of Jesus christ for a miracle and a healing. Please god let his test all come back normal. God please let everything be ok. In Jesus christ name I pray Amen

Stephanie Tedder

Thank you for your comment. I'm going to devote time for prayer and study. Thank you!

Yes I am on medication for my mental illness, just like your step sister I have the same illness. Thank you for your comment, that really helped. I will try to devote a time during my day to study and pray. Thank you!

I believe you're correct Bonnergy, there is no indication anywhere that the creatures under the water were affected by God's Judgement upon man & beast. Genesis 7, as you quoted, clearly indicates that as those pairs (or, sevens) of animals that were led into the Ark ( Genesis 7:8,9,14,15,23) were saved & all other creatures that lived on the land or flew were destroyed. Noah was never instructed to get pairs of sea creatures into the Ark. Why God allowed this, we can't know for sure, except that with a flood of that magnitude, all animals (& mankind) which could not live/breathe underwater, were destined to perish, save those which were saved by God. So, even though it was for mankind's wickedness the Earth was destroyed by water, unfortunately the innocent animals living above ground had to also perish with man.

Jordyn,

(Part 2):

There have been several instances over the years where someone will post a question and we as a group give answers that we believe to be true, and we disagree with each other's answers, and then we argue back and forth amongst each other, and the person who posted the original question never joins into the conversation.

Sometimes the questions are controversial questions and I think that sometimes we get baited into the very thing you and I are doing here. I don't see this as being the case with this, as I believe this was an honest question being asked, but I do think it would be nice if the person who posted the question would at least respond to the answers you and I gave, or perhaps join in the discussion.

Jordyn, you and I are just going to have to remain in disagreement on this one. As I said, unless PBC79 has any other questions, or wishes to respond to what we shared, I see no need to continue this. If this is something you feel strongly about, perhaps you can start a new thread?

God Bless!!!

Jordyn,

(Part 1):

The original question by PBC79 seemed to be asking if Revelation Chapters 2 & 3 are referring to seven churches, or one church. This person was told that the seven churches of Revelation are all one church. I believe that is incorrect.

Although you and I gave conflicting answers, I stand by my original response to PBC79. I still hold that these were 7 literal churches that were established in those seven locations listed in Revelation Chapters 2 & 3. And each one of these churches were given a specific message.

Now, as far as continuing on in this discussion, I see no purpose in it unless the person who began this thread has more questions. I gave my answer to the original question that was asked, and you gave yours. So, unless PBC79 wishes to enter this discussion, I see no need to continue going back and forth with each other about things unrelated to the question asked.

Hi Nick , may I ask do you get any help with your mental health issues ? Medication can definitely help , my own step sister suffers with paranoid schizophrenia . When she was young and before she was diagnosed and treated , she was in a terrible state . It took a while to find the right meds for her but now in her fifties , she's leading a normal life and has been doing very well for over 30 years . She's married , has a grown up son and is content , so I do know meds can help a lot . As for doing everything that the Bible tells us to , none of us are capable of that all day every day , only Christ is sinless , we are all imperfect in this life . Most importantly you need to have faith in God's love for you and in His willingness to forgive our sinfulness through and because of , Jesus Christ and what he accomplished in order to reconcile us to God . Try to pray to God at least twice a day , even if you just thank Him for all the good things in your life . Try to read your Bible every day , pick a time when you are confident you won't be disturbed , set a time limit or a chapter goal , maybe two chapters a day ? Or twenty minutes ? Whatever you feel is doable for you . The main thing is to persevere . It takes time and effort to get to know your God . Don't be impatient with yourself , relax and enjoy learning about and growing closer to Him . Do you know anyone who might like to read with you ? Is there someone you could talk to about what you read every day ? Maybe you could come on here and talk to us about what you read each day ? I hope you continue on this path towards a better understanding of and a stronger faith in your Dear Heavenly Father , He's waiting to greet you :) .

Didnt see that it was actually god trying to stop him, just like he told the children of israel to stop ignoring him as they went into apostacy. another way the devil has accomplished this is to tempt people into being so busy with life that they run out of time, energy and a desire to spend time in actual study. the church needs to get back to a love of the bible just like the man in psalm 1 where he studied his bible everyday with delight. also, there are so many versions out there, that new christians are asking men (not god) to tell them which bible they should read and study. the internet is swamped with videos of people asking which bible they should use, trusting perfect strangers to guide them in their choice. this explains why so many christians, according to surveys done, don't even believe the bible is inspired by god anymore. i'd like to find a church that uses the kjb only, worships on the sabbath, teaches true bibical doctrine and isn't affiliated with a denomination. hopefully, as the end times draw near, all of god's true church will be set apart and maybe even be persecuted for doing those very things.

i've done a brief study of the nkjv and niv modern versions as to what they have printed and what is in the kjb. i realize i am preaching to the chior, but i thought it would be interesting.

note: (my words are in single parentheses, some of the material is from others that have done these studies. unfortunaetly, i didn't make note of who they are but you can find them under "bible comparisions" on the internet.

nkjv

1) the name lord, refering to god, is missing 66 times

2) the name god is missing 51 times

3) heaven 50 times

4) repentance 44 times

4) blood 22 times

5) hell 23 times

Mr. long saw his hard, long struggle to have it published as the devil coming against this endeavor but satan was dancing in his shoes. he loved it. mr long didnt see that it was actually god trying to stop him, just like he told the children of israel to stop ignoring him as they went into apostacy. another way the devil has accomplished this is to tempt people into being so busy with life that they run out of time, energy and a desire to spend time in actual study. the church needs to get back to a love of the bible just like the man in psalm 1 where he studied his bible everyday with delight. also, there are so many versions out there, that new christians are asking men (not god) to tell them which bible they should read and study. the internet is swamped with videos of people asking which bible they should use, trusting perfect strangers to guide them in their choice. this explains why so many christians, according to surveys done, don't even believe the bible is inspired by god anymore. i'd like to find a church that uses the kjb only, worships on the sabbath, teaches true bibical doctrine and isn't affiliated with a denomination. hopefully, as the end times draw near, all of god's true church will be set apart and maybe even be persecuted for doing those very things.

i've done a brief study of the nkjv and niv modern versions as to what they have printed and what is in the kjb. i realize i am preaching to the chior, but i thought it would be interesting.

note: (my words are in single parentheses, some of the material is from others that have done these studies. unfortunaetly, i didn't make note of who they are but you can find them under "bible comparisions" on the internet.

nkjv

1) the name lord, refering to god, is missing 66 times

2) the name god is missing 51 times

3) heaven 50 times

4) repentance 44 times

4) blood 22 times

5) hell 23 times

The kjb has been accepted and handed down for centuries as the trusted, holy ghost inspired word of god; god's bible. there are over 200 modern versions (not translations) of the bible in english today. the authors of the modern bible versions such as niv, nkjb, asv, esv, etc. have flooded the market with "their" versions of god's word. why are all these versions out there? the devil knew he couldn't get christians to stop being true to god's word by a frontal attack so he slipped in by the backdoor. just like in the story of baalam and the children of israel in the book of numbers. the devil is very devious. these new versions have been said, by the publishers, that they are the same as the ancient text just in a more manageable format without ancient words, grammar and spelling, but you will see in the few comparisons i have listed below that is far from the truth.

first a brief history lesson.

in the early 1950's a man named howard long was a christian businessman who would witness to his customers often, with no hesitation, but unfortunately his pride was stronger in him then humility and it not only led to his fall, but also the corrupted version of god's word in the niv. mr long was embarrased when one of his customers, instead of responding to the gospel as he was use to, laughed himself silly at the "ancient" language of the kjb. unfortunately, instead of defending the word of god, mr. long was embarrased and there after was determined to put the kjb in modern language "so it sounded more morden and people could understand it better." it seemed mr. long didn't go to god and seek guidance but instead he went to the honored authorities of his day and told them what he wanted to do. they resisted for many years until mr. long was successfully able to convince them that what he wanted was of god therefore by 1975 the niv was published.

Hi Nick34.

I would recommend continue in prayer and go to your pastor and address your concerns with him, especially about the things the Bible says to do.

See if he will talk and mentor you without bringing you in front of the whole congregation.

Perhaps there is others here that can help.

God bless you.

I have been saved and baptised and I believe the Word of God. But I feel that I couldn't do the things the Bible says to do. I feel infirour and meek about saving people, or praying without ceasing. I also have a mental illness so I don't know what voices are real and what isn't sometimes and leaves me with a sick feeling in my gut when I think negative about a certain image in my head, or a voice that tells me I'm going to hell. I just clam up and do nothing other than fight that thought. Can someone pray for me and tell me what is a good thing I should do about this?

Amen Carleton.

God uses marriage to communicate Christ commitment and relationships to us as seen in

Ephesians 5:23-32.

See verse 32.

"For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, AND SHALL BE JOINED UNTO HIS WIFE, AND THEY TWO SHALL BE ONE FLESH.

(Verse 32)

THIS IS A GREAT MYSTERY: "BUT I SPEAK CONCERNING CHRIST AND THE CHURCH.

Praise the Lord that we have a God that is faithful and keeps his promises.

There is one God of all and he is the God of Israel "The fish fruit " also in who he made Promises to also!

Here's one of many.

Jeremiah 31:35-36.

"Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:

If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

I am doing well, I hope you are doing well also.

God bless.

Ps.122 "Set Thrones of judgment"-2

"To give thanks unto the name of theLord./For there are set thrones of judgment, the thrones of the house of David.

Jerusalem was formerly a Canaanite city and in the time of David he drove the original inhabitants out of the city and since then Zion has remained a shadow of heavenly realities. As analogous to it our soul serves as an altar; so our living sacrifices are about the tabernacle of heart where prayers are before the throne of grace. "He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty./I will say of theLord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust."(91:1-2)

'Thrones of judgment' as a spiritual term is the word of God, which is to warn us, exhort comfort as well as testimony. "Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee."(119:11) Soul and Spirit serve a child of God. It is said, those who forget their history shall repeat the same mistakes. It is true in spiritual life as well. It is this we need approach the parable of Asaph in Ps.78. Soul needs to be taught fresh so indwelling Spirit is literally a Helper that the risen Christ has sent to us. "Moreover he refused the tabernacle of Joseph, and chose not the tribe of Ephraim:/But chose the tribe of Judah, the mount Zion which he loved./And he built his sanctuary like high palaces, like the earth which he hath established for ever.:(78:67-69)

The word of God is to expose our innermost recesses so we may be aware of where are we heading. We are not like the Israelites who perished in the wilderness for their disbelief.

vv.6-12

"Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee./Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy palaces./For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee./Because of the house of theLordour God I will seek thy good."

Ps.122 "Set thrones of judgment"

"Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together." (v.3)

Jerusalem as a city of peace was never a city of brotherly love or in peace. Where the priestly class had established a status 'holier-than-thou' the name was a misnomer. Peace that can only be found in unswerving bond of peace between God and man eluded the city of Jerusalem then as now.

In rejecting the prince of peace we have instead a more realistic picture of the city and it came from the Man in whom God sent his gospel. . "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!/Behold, your house is left unto you desolate." The desolation of the house explained their nation which reflected their times and the world. Equally brutalized was their heart to reject the fear of God.

How would they fear what they have not believed? Truth in their inward parts they never looked at because the observance of sacrifices and traditions of their fathers made them complacent. In rejecting faith and relying on works they invited catastrophe. Going into exiles under Assyria and Babylon they had a illusion of Jerusalem as city of peace. It was a lie since they found no peace in their own soul. Is it not the case even now? "O that thou hadst hearkened to my commandments! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea:" (Is.48:18). It is to this Jesus referred,"For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord." (Matt.23:37-39)

This psalm composed by David can be approached literally as well as spiritually which is more to the point than indulging in a make-believe piety. "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." (2 Ti.3:5)

Ps.121 "For evermore"

"I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help.My help cometh from theLord, which made heaven and earth." The Holy Spirit gives us a symbol for God in terms of his Will. He is the Rock and the Son in terms of its fulfillment, the stone ("a stone was cut out without hands,"-Dan.2: 34). Besides we have the rock delineated in spiritual terms. With regards to the Israelites who were led forth from Egypt the Spirit gives a marginal note, "And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ."(1 Co.10:4). When Jesus walked on the earth on one occasion he declared, "Jesus said to them,"Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was,I am."/Sothey picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple."( John 8:58-59-ESV). What made the nation of Israel blind so they could not see Jesus for what he was? He was the fulfillment of the law and Israel could not deem him as such. The same error is in our times as well that man has not insight, an understanding as to what his soul signifies. 'for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well."(139:14)

In Ps.90 we have a wonderful description as to our dwelling place even before the mountains were formed. "Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations./Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God." (90:1-2) We were foreknown by our Lord God and He is compared to the rock of Ages to whom we can run for refuge because of his Son. God placing Moses in the cleft of a rock illustrates what He is.

'The Lord is thy shade upon thy right hand', where the Spirit means Jesus Christ. Similarly forever more also refers to Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever' (He.13:8). The Word concerning His children is 'peace'.

Good morning brother Spencer, Amen!

Joyce and I were just listening to a wedding service across the country, a young man and a young woman side by side, hand in hand making vows to be faithful for as long as their lives continue in sickness and in health, in adversity and prosperity. The couple answered affirmatively as they were married. Both the man and the woman were first married in the Lord before this day occurred. Now a three fold cord has made them whole for the rest of their lives together. She is bone of his bone and he will cleave to her. The Christian vow to Christ at the Cross is similar, only unto Him.

So, God shows marriage as what He means as well. Since the beginning, with a Promise.

I hope all is well your way!

God bless our walk.

Part 29 and final.

The Islamic Threat to Israel (Part 5) (Conclusion)

By Dave Hunt.

Beginning with Britain's mandate over "Palestine," during which they gave most of it to the Arabs, and continuing on to U.N. Resolution 181, November 29, 1947, partitioning "Palestine"--and as part of every peace plan since--in fulfillment of this prophecy, not just one enemy but the nations of the world have divided God's land ( Lev 25:23). They will be punished for that defiance of God and His Word. Bush ought to tremble. The whole basis of the Roadmap to Peace is a further division of Israel.

Behind it all is Islam, the chief enemy of Israel. The battle over Israel is a battle for survival on Satan's part and a battle for the souls and destiny of mankind. If Islam and the nations siding with her should win, then we are all eternally lost. If God, whose integrity is tied to Israel's ultimate restoration and blessing, has not told the truth about His chosen people and their destiny, then how could we believe His promises that Christ paid the penalty for our sins and His offer of forgiveness and eternal life for those who believe in Him? Pray for the peace of Jerusalem!

If God, whose integrity is tied to Israel's ultimate restoration and blessing, has not told the truth about His chosen people and their destiny, then how could we believe His promises that Christ paid the penalty for our sins and His offer of forgiveness and eternal life for those who believe in Him? Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

Praise the Lord for his faithfulness!

Ezekiel 36:17-28. " Verses 23-28 is yet future!!

God bless.

God bless my brother Jon with your healing grace and mercy and your divine guidance and inspiration so that he can overcome all of his health problems and be restored to good health in mind and body again.

Does it mean fishes and all other creatures that reside in the water were not destroyed by the flood? because I can't see where it was mentioned. But God destroyed man and every living creature by the flood, both on land and the birds of the air.

Love of God: Salvation (concluding thoughts)

Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. ( Ephesians 2:5-7).

This verse shows how God is rich in mercy; and goes beyond just a one time experience and puts his people on display for the Millennium and throughout eternity all because of what Christ accomplished on our behalf on the cross. In the present He is working out our salvation through fear and trembling (stating that we are to work it out but implying of course that it is His strength and surrender to the Spirit that accomplishes this: Philippians 2:12-13). This is known as "sanctification" followed by glorification after death or at the time of the Rapture/Resurrection of the saints.

I brought out before in the last post and many times in other posts that God chastises all those He loves. This isn't a popular concept especially among the "prosperity gospel" crowd. Indeed the KJV says we are bastards if we aren't being disciplined in this way ( Heb. 12:8). A human child through the love of the parents is disciplined as the famous "spare the rod and spoil the child" and many like sentiments in scripture indicate ( Prov. 13:24). Ephesians 4:22 says to put off the old man; and Galatians states that we are crucified with Christ (chapter 2; verse 20).

God has also expressed His love in honoring His covenants; both with national Israel and the new covenant with His church.

This would be my response to comments on difficulty conceiving of the value of what happened in the Old Testament. Indeed all scripture is good for instruction and all other tenets as stated in 2 Tim. 3:16. There is much to learn from mistakes of others as well as worthy acts of saints of all ages in scripture.