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What are the saints of God going to be doing in the AGES TO COME?

Ephesians 2:7 ... that in the ages to come ....

Psalms 2:10 Be wise therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye JUDGES of the earth.

God is calling out a priesthood to rule and reign in the kingdom of God.

Keep growing into maturity.

God Bless YOU!

GiGi

I understand that people keep reporting him. And I am grateful that even despite this he returns. He truly has a patience of a saint. Instead of attacking each other maybe we ought to "examine thyself". If you do not like what he is saying then you can simply ignore him. I ignored him for a few days and meditated on the word of God. After doing so I am now beginning to understand certain things he has stated. Too many people on here hump to themselves teachers but only have itching ears. I rather be a student first before being a teacher. Thank you.

God bless you.

Jordyn

As a side note I want to apologise that you are having to go through this amount of trouble for trying to edify your brothers. God did say that the people will kill thinking they are doing the work of God. I wish some people would "examine thyself" to make sure that they hold to sound doctrine before reporting people under false pretenses. Thank you for helping me lift this heavy burden from me.

God bless you.

Jordyn,

I appreciate the length you are going to get the gospel out. Here is what I believe. I believe that the only way into heaven is through faith in Jesus Christ. If anyone thinks that they have to have works to accompany their faith then I believe they do not have the right faith. Jesus will tell them "Depart from me, workers of iniquity." If we do not put our full faith in what Christ did for us on the cross then "Christ is dead in vain". Anyone who think they have to keep the commandments are still married to Moses and Jesus cannot partake in their adultery. After reading the book of John I have come to believe the WORK Jesus did justifies me, not my own works which "are as filthy rags".

Glory to God for you have given me greater understanding. God bless you.

Are those who are ministers involved in adultery removed and prohibited from future ministry positions?

Hi Mary Jay. As you know, we don't align in our understanding of the Scriptures, but thought to address this one post from you as an example.

In answer to your question, I exist as a physical person, now saved & revived by the Blood of Christ & His Spirit, joined to the Body of Christ. Am I "the BODY of Christ?" NO. My understanding of the Scriptures is that the Body of Christ is the Church ( Ephesians 5:23; Colossians 1:18,24). So, I'm not the Body, Christ is; I am a part of that Body, the parts of which comprise the Church ( Romans 12:4,5; 1 Corinthians 12:12-14). There can only be one Body, or else, if each member is the Body of Christ, then Christ is no longer the Head of His Church but the Head of each person. And though 1 Corinthians 11:3 states, "...that the head of every man is Christ...", this verse speaks about the position, in the spiritual realm & of the Church presenting before God, of woman to the man, of man to Christ & of Christ to God.

So with Galatians 2:20, my understanding of "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me...", is that my life that I now live is not my own (my ownership), but belongs to Christ (His ownership) with Christ (by His Spirit) Who now lives in me. This is a personal relationship with the risen Christ, with Whom all others who completely identify with Him, also enjoy. Thus together we form His Church, which is His Body; so the individual can never be Christ's Body - only His Church can be, which is the collection of believers.

Ex.23:20 Angels

"Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared."

Testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesy.

Angel of the Lord wherever it is mentioned in the Scripture is as a stand in for the Son. The sons of God mentioned in Ge.6 who took to wives from men were bad actors so St Paul would warn, " But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."(Gal.1:8)

Jesus of Nazareth confessed that he did not come to destroy the Law or prophets. His own testimony was to fulfill them. For this reason he tells the leper what he was to do. Law of Moses applied to the man who he healed. Similarly he would fulfill the Law because as Moses warned the Israelites of the Advent of the prophet from God he was obliged to fulfill it ,"For my nameisin him." Multiplying the loaves earlier instance demonstrated that he was the Word become flesh; in the case of seven baskets his testimony was to his Father who had sent the angels and as the writer to the Hebrews says, "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son."

In this context among so many unnamed angels we have the names Gabriel and Michel and their service also fell under the gospel which is one. They may be considered as 'prophets'. The place prepared overarches the land of Canaan and it is new Jerusalem as the Spirit wants us to take note of.

Matt.15:24 "Seven loaves"

"And Jesus saith unto them, How many loaves have ye? And they said, Seven, and a few little fishes."

The Spirit gives the number Seven to indicate God's completeness so we have seven 'days' relating to the God document, the Holy Bible. (Ge.1) The House that Wisdom built has seven pillars, relating to 'my Father's mansions.' Seven golden candlesticks (Re.1:12) covering all those who are called and chosen for eternal habitations. Similarly seven seals relate to the judgment upon the disobedient beginning with 'woe to you' and sword, death and pestilence three horsemen color coded are spread out while the word gone forth from the mouth of the Lord is shown as the first horseman 'went forth conquering, and to conquer. We are told that he is none other than the Son, "and his name is called The Word of God.'(Re.19:13) It is of him Moses referred, "Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my nameisin him."(Ex.23:20-23)

Now the Isaiah quote: "So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, "This is also tagged Seven which we infer from the martyrdom of the Two witnesses. "And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet;." What affrighted their enemies was the fact that resurrection is indeed true! The everlasting life promised to the world ( John 3:16)shall be made manifest. Sending the bread of heaven was one part and gathering the broken remains in seven baskets prove this part of the Isaiah quote:"but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." Testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."(Re.19:10) After healing the leper Jesus told him, "but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, for a testimony."(Matt.8:4)

Matthew refers Testimony of Jesus to indicate, "it is done."

Thank you for your good question Kr00031. I have tried to do a little research on this by examining other verses with this 'anomaly'. And though I can't be sure about it in every case, my guess is that in the KJBible, quotation marks are not used to indicate someone's speech or a quotation from a source.

So, in today's English usage, if I were to write, Jesus said, "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone...." ( Matthew 4:4), I would use quotation marks front & rear of the sentence to indicate Jesus' Words. But in the writing of the KJB, quotation apparently weren't employed but capitalizing the first letter after the speech or quotation, indicated the start of it.

You can look at the following examples to see how this works: Matthew 2:8 (Go); Matthew 2:23 (He); Matthew 3:3 (The); Matthew 3:15 (Suffer). I think you will get the idea of how the first letter of the first word is capitalized when a message is uttered or a verse is quoted.

I do not believe that Jesus is God . Am I a heretic ? Should I be banned from this site ? What about others who do not believe that Jesus is God ? Should they also be banned ? To us , people who do not believe that Jesus is God , the belief that he is , is heretical . Are we calling for every one who believes that Jesus is God to be banned from this site ? There really are millions of people , Christians , who do not believe that Jesus is God , I'm not making that up , it's true . We don't get many of them on this site and the reason , to me , is obvious . They don't want any part in a site that is full of people who believe something that they think is absolutely not true . I do not call for any one , who doesn't believe the same things as me , to be banned . If a post offends me I just stop reading it . It's that easy . It's not my place to judge others , that position is filled by God . I do not put myself in God's place . People who believe that Jesus is God often say that it's their duty to ' call out ' heresies but don't seem to get that they themselves believe something that millions of others might consider a heresy . Intolerance is the word I'm looking for I think . If I am able to tolerate things on here that I find heretical , why can't others do the same ? I'm just as convinced about my beliefs as others are about theirs .

please pray for my daughter Jessica and her family please pray for me

Sister GiGi:

Do you believe:

Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them the judgement written, this honour hath all his saints.

1 Corinthians 6:2 ... the saints shall judge the world ......

This is GOD'S words not mine.

Psalms 82:6 I (God) have said, Ye are gods, children of the most high,

Psalms 82:7 But ye shall DIE like men (sinful flesh, on the cross of Christ) and fall like one of the princes (of this world)

Psalms 82:6 ARISE (by the resurrection), O god, JUDGE the EARTH, for thou shall inherit the nations.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh and keeps MY WORKS, until the end, to him will I give power over the nations

Do you believe these words.

God Bless YOU!

Sister Gigi:

Show me the scriptures, don't just say my teaching are heresies.

Acts 24:14 But this I confess UNTO YOU, that after the which YOU CALL HERESY, so WORSHIP I the God of my fathers, believing all things WRITTEN in the Law and Prophets.

God Bless YOU!

Brother Adam:

Jesus DID NOT created anything?

Christ's God and Father created all things by his Son Jesus Christ.

Christ can do nothing but what his God and Father CAUSEs him TO SAY and To DO.

John 8:28 .... and that I do nothing of myself .....

Hebrews 1:2 ..... the God and Father of Christ hath appointed Christ HEIR of all things, by Christ also the God and Father of Christ made the worlds.

God Bless You!

how do I give my life to Jesus I want to do so bad but I keep going back to sin Can someone help me and help me get over my sin and give my life to Christ

please and thank you.

Tunney

Greetings in Christ JESUS

Yes,one plants,another waters,but GOD gives the increase.JESUS said:in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers,Gather ye together first the tares,and bind them in bundles to burn them:but it shall be in the end of this world.And gather the wheat into my barn.Yes,our GOD will give the increase(The Word is GOD,self-executable),and you know that He calls those things which be not as though they were- Romans 4:17

JESUS said,he that reapes receives wages,and gathers fruit unto LIFE ETERNAL(it's marvelous):that both he that sowes(JESUS sowed)and he that reaps(under the command of JESUS)may(both)rejoice together

Re.11:15-18

15The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord,and of His Christ;and He shall reign for ever and ever

16And the four and twenty elders,which sat before GOD on their seats,fell upon their faces,and worshipped GOD

17Saying,We give thee thanks,O Lord God Almighty-JESUS-,which art,and was,and art to come;because thou has taken to thee thy great power,and has reigned.(GOD calls those things which be not as though they were- Romans 4:17.The Word is GOD,self-executing)

18And the NATIONS were(WILL BE)angry,and GOD's WRATH is come,and the time of the dead,that they should be Judged,and that GOD should give reward unto His servants the prophets,and to the saints,and them that fear His name,small and great;and should destroy them which destroy the earth

Mat.25:31-34&41&46

31When the Son of man shall come in his glory,and all the holy angels with him,then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory

32Before Him shall be gathered all nations:He shall separate them one from another,as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats

33And He shall set the sheep on His right hand,the goats on the left

34Then shall the King say unto them on His right hand,Come,ye blessed of my Father,inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world

41Unto them on the lft hand-Depart from me youCURSED...

...cont.

by angelic hosts, saints, and believers along with the Father, we have to conclude that God is a unity of Persons as One Being or else God would have lied about being the only God and there is no others beside Him. Yet, just as Isaiah 45:23 says that every knee shall bow and every tongue swear" and in Philippians 2:10-11 says that every knee shall bow and tongue confess that Jesus is LORD to the glory of God."

Isaiah 45:25" In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified.." so in Jesus, the promised Seed of Abraham, are all the seed of Abraham justified. Gal. 3:8;14 that is , those who believe in Jesus, whether Jew or Gentile.

Adam, thank you again for holding firm on this doctrine. We need to continue to speak forth what the Scriptures say concerning Who Jesus truly is, by the words He spoke, the inspired words of the apostles, and the works of Jesus that only God could do (forgive sins, heal the sick, give sight to the blind, control the weather, cast out demons, and be the only perfect sacrifice to atone for our sins.

Oseas:

I agree, how ever you want to say it.

Ephesians 4:4 .... ONE SPIRIT ....

God Bless YOU!

In John 10: 1 Why is He capitalize in the verse.

Adam, I am happy to continue to pray for your healing. I know that the Lord needs only to speak the word and you will be healed. So I have asked Him to speak the word over you that will being healing.

Keep me posted. I want to hear of your progress and how the Lord answers our prayers.

Also, Thanks for defending the doctrine of the deity of Jesus. It is a vital doctrine of the faith and one that we should not compromise on or diminish its importance in order to "get along" with others who deny His deity.

God is His infinite wisdom, determined that the only way to redeem and save people from their sins and be victorious over it is by a Savior who is both God and man. This was decided in eternity prior to creation within the Godhead. The One Triune God is the only Savior for man. No mere human can be our Savior because no one can live a perfect and sin-free life but God in human flesh-not even a human person who is filled to the max with the Holy Spirit, since the fact that there is a maximum that a human can be filled means there is a limit. But Jesus possesses the Spirit without limit, infinitely and eternally, just as He possesses the Father without limit, infinitely and eternally, and the Father possesses the Son without limit, infinitely and eternally, and the Spirit without measure, infinitely, and eternally. And likewise, the Spirit possesses the Son and the Father without limit, infinitely and eternally. This unity in the Godhead is unique to the One Being of God. They are "in" one another yet still distinct Persons. We cannot fully understand this, but we can believe it.

The Last Supper discourse is replete with references to the Oneness of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It is difficult to read these chapters and not get that God exists as a Unity of three Persons-One God, not three gods.

When we are commanded to worship God alone in Deut. 6:4-5 and no other gods ( Deut. 5:7) and when Revelations contains so many verses where Jesus is worshipped....

Hello Adam,

As you know from my most recent posts, I truly believe that Jesus is God. You directed your question to "Jesse" which is my user name. The question should have been directed to Jesse A, not Jesse. I will never post anything under the name Jesse A. I only go by the name Jesse, not Jesse A. I have been concerned about this for some time now that when people see the name Jesse A, they are going to think it is me. This is not me. Again, I only go by Jesse.

I hope you understand my concern.

Thanks Adam!

Thank you, God bless you, GiGi.

Thanks, but I don't need to listen to someone's conspiracy theory when I already know the truth that the earth is round. God says in the Bible it's a circle, and I use God-given logic to know the truth. I shared 2 ways to quickly know the truth about the earth, but I know you ignore it. If believing in a flat earth was part of my identity, I guess I'd be too embarrassed to do that simple test too, knowing that it might debunk the belief. The one thing I agree with you on is to question everything. God bless.

OK Earl, Thanks for explaining.

As for me I have never reported you to admin nor advocated for you to be prevented from posting.

I do think that your continued insistence that we are gods and have equal power and authority as Jesus is heretical.

All authority and power were given Jesus after His resurrection, reclaiming the power and authority He had with the Father prior to His incarnation. Mt. 28:28; 2Ch. 20:6; Rev. 4:11; 5:12; 19:1; 1:6

As Adam says, there is only one God; there will never ever be any other God than the God revealed in Scripture as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-one God over all.

Earl, my suggestion to you is that when you come on this site under a knew name you identify yourself as Earl somewhere in your post. That way we can know for sure that we are conversing with you.

If admin continues to prevent you from posting, then perhaps that is because they, too, determine that your beliefs that you have posted again and again are seriously heretical and damaging to believers.

This is a good example of flawed logic as referred to earlier.

You seem to suggest you believe Jesus is the Son of God, but can't be God because he's already the Son of God.

Jesse, do you have kids?

If so, you would be a dad, correct? But you're also a son. But how can someone be both a "father" and a "son" at the same time. Surely that's impossible! This exposes one of your logical assumptions you used.

But the same argument could also be made for God the Father. He's already called the Father, so how can He also be God, if He's already the Father? Believing flawed human logic instead of scripture.

The second false assumption is thinking that Jesus can't be God, because [according to you] you don't think He would pray to Himself. But the Bible says Jesus created everything and was always there from the beginning ( John 1) before He relegated Himself to being a temporary man. You then take Jesus's actions as a temporary man and falsely assuming He was never anything but a man and that all of His actions as a temporary man is permanently how He is. That's quite an assumption. Also, the Son was praying to the Father, was He not? And the verse saying the Father and Son are one- do you believe that?

This post is more for others, because the truth needs to be shared instead of the anti-Bible propaganda people post here.

"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." Isaiah 44:6 KJV

Do you believe Jesus is Lord? Do you believe He's the King of Israel, and King of the Jews? Do you believe He's the Alpha and Omega, first and last like the Bible says?

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." Revelation 22:13 KJV

"besides me there is no God" He says. But I'm sure people will keep believing in whatever appeases them, rather than what the Bible actually says. God bless.

"But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." 1 Corinthians 8:6 KJV

"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV

"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." Isaiah 44:6 KJV

You said you think Jesus is "a GOD". This is shocking to read.

Have you read the verses above that say there is one God? Do you believe those verses? If so, why do believe there is more than one God?

Then you continue with flawed human logic: this can't be true because of [this], etc.

The rest of what you wrote does not seem consistent with scripture. What religion do you identify with?

Sister Gigi:

I explained this to you two names ago.

When you and Brother S Spencer, Brother Jesse, and Brother Chris start going between yourselves saying I am a false teacher, someone complains to administration and they stop me from posting.

If you believe I am teaching incorrectly, just prove it to me by the scriptures, I have repented of my beliefs 100's of times.

God's word says we all start out being deceived, so we must constantly repent of our false beliefs as light is shined into darkness.

God's words cannot contradict themselves, so when we run up against scriptures the contradict other scriptures we hold true, we have to revisit our beliefs and aline them with God's words.

This is a race we cannot lose, but we can take the long way, and not cross till the second resurrection.

God Bless YOU!

Brother Adam:

No one has said Jesus is not a GOD.

But Christ IS NOT Christ's God, and Christ's Father, which is SPIRIT.

Christ's God and Father, is the LIFE in Christ's Body.

As Christ's God and Christ's Father is the LIFE of Christ

Christ's God and Christ's Father hath GIVEN Christ power to have LIFE in HIMSELF.

John 5:26

BY his death and resurrection he is OUR GOD and OUR FATHER.

God with us and in us.

Psalms 136:2 O give thanks to the God of gods, for his mercy endureth forever.

Christ's has GIVEN his children the same POWER he has, by being the LIFE and POWER of his SEED.

When Christ has raised all the DEAD unbelievers at the second resurrection, Christ's saint will exercise that POWER unto JUDGEMENT.

God Bless YOU!

Hey Mary Jay, the reference that you gave, my god, my god.. I'm convinced he was quoting that to show the "fulfillment" was at hand regarding psalms 22... I'm sure that many that were at the crucifixion probably gasped at the thought when they remembered the rest of the psalm.

Ronald, Thank you for your answers. Now I understand your beliefs about the Jesus, the Son of God.

I appreciate your candid replies.