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DeonFourie: Sorry I didn't mean to put my comment before your comment to Robert E Lowe' I'm still kind of learning how things work. God Bless :)

Just want to add to DeonFourie's comment and say that one of the first steps you could do in taking action is to be sure you have a KJB bible to read and study. You can, of course, do it online (this website is one of the very best) but an actual "book" would be good for you also to have it always available, to makes notes as you study, etc. Let it become your companion and PLEASE don't let ANYONE convince you any other bible is God's truthful Word. I don't mean to sound opinionated but you can be sure any other version is corrupted by man.

God Bless :)

Dear Marissa: You have had a lot of tragedy in your life, what heartaches, but you are right, God has been with you thorough it all and it is a blessing to me to see you are still trusting in Him. Please don't ever think yourself unworthy of God's great love for you? When Jesus died on the cross it was for all living souls from the time of Adam until we get to the end so none of us are worthy until He stood in our place before God and now we can be worthy if our hearts belong to Him.

Just one other quick comment, I know it's just a metaphor; a human soul given wings, and maybe we will when we go to be with the Lord, just please don't mix human souls with angles. We are two completely different creations of God. My prayers are with you. God Bless :)

I believe this is a commandment to be followed as it teaches us to love our biological parents no matter what. Not to do what they say if it contradicts the teachings of God's word or to let them cause strife in your life. Honor here means to not hurt them, or hate them or anything like that if your parents are not loving and caring. We are to be sure our heart has the same unconditional love of God toward them as God does. It may be difficult, if they are difficult people, but keep a forgiving and loving spirit toward them. I also believe this is a commandment that broadly refers to elderly people in general. So if there is anyway you can help, love or care for any elder person do so if you can. I was a single mother for 17 yrs with 3 children. Two sons and a daughter. My oldest son has always believed, even before he became a Christian, the it was his responsibility to take care of me when he became an adult and he has done that ever since I became disabled and couldn't work anymore before I could retire. I was turned down for SSI so there he was ready to take me in and care for me. I'm now 76 and the Lord has been able for me to provide for him because he has long-term Covid. He lives with me and is my caretaker because he can no longer work. Oh! How great is our God for us to be able, now, to help each other.

As for your other concern,, Matt. 12:49, one of the other comments for you (sorry I don't remember who) explained it very well by explaining the use of the Hebrew word in this verse. We are to love God above all else including the people in our lives. I'm glad you are asking these questions. It shows a heart toward understanding God's word. Just be sure you compare any comments to the character and majesty of God including mine. God Bless :)

Amen, GiGi. I'd like to add a scripture: Jeremiah 29:11 "For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil , to give you an expected end." Like His power declares, His is Omniscience. How can we fret if He is always thinking peaceful thoughts of us? God Bless :)

Matt.14:22-36 "Faith "

v.23 Jesus in his human likeness required moments to commune with God. "He went up into a mountain apart to pray: and when the evening was come, he was there alone." As Son of man how he fed multitude must have felt a burden if he did not learn to please his Father in all things. Power of the Spirit of God was his support. "And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him." This is the Word component. He was the Word become flesh so it was all the more necessary to fall back upon the bosom of his Father as in the beginning. ( John 8:29)"For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin."(He.4:15)

vv.25-31 Jesus stilled the storm (8:23-27) Walking on the Sea was an invitation for Simon Peter to show what Jesus meant as his Associate. "And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water./And he said, Come"(vv.28-29)

Instead of looking at Jesus his gaze wandered to look at circumstances and floundered. As his associates our eye of faith cannot be elsewhere. "But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me./ And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?"

v.36 Earlier a woman with an issue of blood was healed because of her faith. (9:20-23). It was a novel method to be healed and now it has become the norm in the land of Gennesaret where Jesus landed. 'And besought him that they might only touch the hem of his garment: and as many as touched were made perfectly whole."

Asking for extra strong protection, peace, joy, strength, encouragement, love, guidance, wisdom, to live lives pleasing to the Lord ...all this for us and all in need.

Greetings All, I'm asking for Prayer for myself. Lord it's me standing in the need of Prayer. Even the strong gets weak here and there feels like I'm not worthy of God. I'm Praying to get closer to God every day I struggle with so many different things in life as everyone else. My mother was murdered which crushed my world but to be blame for her death is overwhelming. All because we had lunch some hours before she was killed. It's my fault. My whole family has turned on me. But GOD. God has been giving me the strength to overcome so much. One of the hardest things to do is close a casket on your Mother. Since then, I've lost 2 sisters in luv's with in 30 days apart then 2 brothers now my Mother in luv has gained her wings. I feel all alone in this crazy place we call life. But I know that there is a GOD I've never lost my Faith in GOD. My Prayer Request is to be close enough to GOD that I can almost touch the hem of his Garment. I want to breathe GOD, live GODLY as well as righteous focus on self not everyone. LORD JESUS PLEASE GIULD ME IN ALL THINGS... Thought I married a Great man of God turns out he's making passes on his niece. Yes, I walked away from my marriage of 19 years I cannot be with a man playing with GOD. Lord, please help us all we're all dealing with something in life.

Please pray for my grandchildren that they know they are loved. That god will allow me to be part of their lives. Please pray God will help my children and heal them. Please pray i will understand what he needs to do and give me direction.

Matt.14:16-21 "Associates we all"

In this passage we have a masterclass in our service to the world as Associates of Jesus Christ. The twelve disciple were learning on their feet and as such their approach to feed the multitude was to go by time motion analysis. They wanted their master " send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals." But Jesus first would check what they had among themselves. He said, "give ye them to eat". Instantly they reckoned what was at their disposal. "And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes."

Making the multitude sit in an orderly fashion, Jesus, "took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the disciples to the multitude." Here we see how associates to the kingdom of heaven would do. The anonymous boy who brought the loaves of bread and two fishes were also an associate. It is thus we witness before the world as many cogs in a machinery working silently in obedience to the example shown by our Savior Lord. Our time and motions are lock instep with heaven.

Straightaway after feeding the multitude they set about, "And straightway Jesus constrained his disciples to get into a ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the multitudes away." The testimony of 12 baskets before his Father did not require anything other than disposing of the perishable food among the needy which must not have been difficult considering the multitude. Association begun with bessings from God shall indeed go a long away.

Significance of 12 gives as a clue to the Gospel of God transcribed for the flesh and blood.

Hi Alan , it's ok to pray for material things but you must be prepared for the answer to maybe be ' no ' . I am disabled and on a low fixed income , I use public transport . It's a bit of a pain sometimes but I still manage to do everything that I need to , thanks to God . Try not to get down about your situation , maybe a friend or family member or even your church could help ? There are charities to help out blind people and you may even be entitled to some government help . I have a free bus pass :) . Keep praying respectfully to God and be patient while you wait for His answer . It may not be the answer you want or expect so be prepared to adapt and , always be thankful to God for His generosity towards you . Never forget to thank Him for everything . Stay strong and patient and faithful , He hears you and knows your need .

Prayer that I receive each and every promise the Lord Jesus Christ have promised me this year. Thank you Father God for your presence and your attention to this prayer as we gather in the Mighty Name of Lord Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior and we ask expecting to receive this prayer in Your Mighty Name Lord Jesus Christ and thank you what for what you are about to do in my life this year in Your Holy Name King of Kings Lord of Lords King Jesus Christ we pray and thank you for what's coming in Your Holy Name, Amen. The Word says when two or more gather together You are in the mist.

I've been without a car for 4 months now. After doing many repairs myself, it would not run. I had it towed to the dealer for repair and it's been another three weeks. I told Kendall automotive my situation. As a caregiver to my disabled wife, and on a fixed income; I have very little money. They said they think it jumped time but I have no idea how much it will take to get my car back yet. I just pray for the ability to get it back somehow. God bless my neighbors who have helped me with rides. I don't want to be a burden. I want to be able to care for my blind wife and my blind dog. I don't know if it's even appropriate to pray for a material thing. Let alone this Cadillac that I got a good used car deal on 6 years ago. I considered it a blessing then, and I'd consider having it back a blessing also. In Jesus's name Amen. God Bless you thank you for praying for me.

Yes you are so right . We must learn to trust God implicitly and believe that He will help us and then act accordingly . Great post from you :) .

Hi DeonFourie , we can always honour our parents . I honour mine even though they are atheists . I don't however put them before Jesus . If they wanted me to do something that I'm sure Jesus wouldn't want me to do then I wouldn't do it . We must put our relationship with God and Jesus first . They are our true parents , they care for us and provide for us , every good thing in our lives comes from them . We can still honour our biologicals and we must remember that God specifically gave them to us and us to them , there is always something to learn from all of our relationships in this life , with brothers and sisters but even with atheists , we can learn from every contact , every experience . God leaves nothing to chance and their are no coincidences . Put God and Jesus above everyone and everything , they are your breath , your bones , your peace , your truth , your strength and your comfort . If the people around us don't appreciate our faith in God then they can move away from us , that will be their choice . We choose Truth ! Thy Kingdom Come .

Matt.14:13-21 "Feeding Five Thousand"

v.13 Jesus was there not to right the wrongs of temporal powers; nor was he there as a social reformer to create changes from the existing environment but to bring the huddled masses to the light. He began preaching only when they same the light shine on them. "That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet," and what in his time was received in indifference,- so he was a prophet without honor' was now beginning to make sense to the generation of Jesus, and feeding the five thousand stands as culmination of the Word, cast forth upon the waters, connecting with Jesus as the bread from heaven. It is thus every word of God shall be fulfilled in the time appointed.

In the Law of Moses towards restitution it is laid down,"If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep." (Ex.22:1) The ox is man's livelihood so man and ox is considered as one. Feeding Five thousand (5x1000) is an indication of symbolic partaking. "Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you."( John 6:53). (In this context number Four signifies The word become Flesh. Jesus Christ as the Savior in terms of four cardinal direction. Salvator mundi, the Savior of the World).

The Spirit gives us a number 5x1000. Thousand always refers to the end times. So Feeding Five Thousand is a tag for the humanity of Jesus Christ and the fulfillment of the above mentioned quote from St John. We shall similarly discuss feeding of the the Four Thousand in terms of the Word.

please pray for my daughter Jessica and her family please remember me

Matt.14 "Herod"

vv.1-12

Herod beheaded John the Baptist on a whim. His personal honor was at stake lest he did not commit the crime and give his head to the damsel who has had not an iota of understanding. One who lives for pleasure is dead since truth with which one may stake claim, rightly so, for life everlasting is let go. What else is he good for if he had lost his saltines, truth?

It was for this reason Jesus said,'Let the dead bury their dead'. ("But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth.1 Ti.5:6)They are drunk with power as Herod was and mindless pleasure as we get to see nowadays in news media are like wise dead. "They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again."(Pr.23:35). Such are the dead men walking of which Herod is a good example. What was his honor worth when 'he feared the multitude'? In such a pusillanimous spirit what made him equate John whom he had beheaded with Jesus? For that matter what has resurrection to do with one who was given to pleasure. It is what we call truth in his inward parts, the inner man nudging his callous conscience to itself. The Preacher says, "He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end."(Ec.3:11).We have the key in this verse, "Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."( John 6:28-29) 'The work that God maketh' is believing in the Son whom he sent. So Jesus is the only Way for 'the dead', "Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light."(Ep.5:14)

I have asked God to enable me to build him a church. I know except the Lord build the house the laborers labels in vain. And I am asking for prayer. I know prayers are the righteous makes a different.

here we come to letter "O" and there are three biggies i regards to God.

OMNISCENT-ALL KNOWING

OMINPOTENT-ALL POWERFUL

OMINIPRESENT- PRESENT EVERYWHERE AT ALL TIMES.

This post will take up the omniscience of God. He knows everything that is, everything, that happens in past history and everything that will happen in future history. He knows everything from everlasting to everlasting.

He knows every thought that has ever been made by heavenly beings or humans and He knows every thought that will occur in the future. He knows every word ever spoken or what will be spoken. Nothing is hidden from Him: in heaven, on earth, and in hell.

Therefore, God cannot be fooled, deceived, taken by surprise, and fail to have a plan for every aspect of every person's existence. He knows all of the animals, when they die, they are born. When they need food, and when they are preyed upon.

He knows all that is in all of the universe. He is the Creator. He makes alive and brings death to man and living things. He knows the smallest aspect of atoms and all that makes up a planet, solar system, galaxy, everything in outer space, all of the powers that He put in place to order the universe, light, gravity, magnetism, force, energy, matter, and that which is immaterial in the spiritual realm.

For some such knowledge may cause them to fear God and want to hide from Him, but believers can be comforted that He knows what we need before we ask and is a good Father and gives His children good gifts when they ask of Him. He knows who we will interact with each moment and desires to helps us to do what is loving and good to others.

He knows all of our health matters from the time of conception to the time of our death. We may not know why we may become ill or be injured or be afflicted with a disease. But God know why He allows all things in our life. We can trust that His will is always good and best for us.

He knows who our children are before they are conceived, same with us.

DeonFourie,

Jesus says to honor your father and your mother. He is quoting Exodus 20:12 and is speaking of honoring our biological father and mother.

And then we look over at Luke 14:26 which reads, "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

So it seems that we have a dilemma. We're told to honor our father and mother, but then we're told that we can't be His disciple if we come to Him and we don't hate our father and mother.

In the English language, we see the word hate and we know what it means to hate someone or hate something. Hate is such a very strong word.

But here's the beauty of the Greek language. In Luke 14:26, the word hate in the Greek text is the word MISEO. It does not mean to hate someone according to our definition of the word hate in our English language.

This word is MISEO. It is not the word for hostile. It is a word of comparison. When MISEO is used with any of the words that have to do with love, it is showing comparison.



In other words, Jesus is saying you must love me so much that the comparison between me and anybody else, or anything else, it makes it look like you hate them. You really don't, but that's what it looks like to them.

Jesus is saying that our love for Him can't even be close in comparison to how we love others.

Hope this makes things a little clearer on these sections of scripture.

Blessings!!!

Thanks for your reply. I value your input.

Who would you say is then referred to, towards whom we should be honoring in the commandment of "honor your father and your mother?

If we are to hate our father and mother and even yourself to be a disciple, whom is here referred to?

I am in fair understanding of all, just that I have no scriptural proof or enough insight to be able to avail such to others. Hoping you could maybe help?

Thank-you

It is always tough to suffer an addiction and then to suffer the consequences of it.

I would want for you to see the struggle as an opportunity to gain faith. You will need rocksolid faith for everything ahead and thus building faith is precious.

Believing that God forgave you is great, now you need to understand the idea of faith as the substance of things hoped for. You hope to prosper and be responsible and be financially independent and and...

Having faith is also pointless if not supported by works. So you need to choose what you ask from Father God in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, then believe that it will be, keep on motivating yourself to this by faith and then apply an action that confirms your choice and whole frame of belief. Much much easier said than done, but every step is golden. You tend to stop looking at problems but rather opportunities and you tend to see the answers God gave you before you even considered the hassle. You will not be tested above your ability - so if things get really tough- it is because you are and requires more than what most people can give to resolve.

Choosing God and truthfully following Him is the toughest thing any person can do- no wonder the reward is everlasting life with God.

Seek God with all that you are in everything and ignore society programming of Who they impose God is. Find God every day for Who He truly is and be set free by the Truth of Him in you.

Remember- Father God allows His true followers to ask of Him as His children. He wants to help - so let Him...

Matt.13 "Like begets like"

"Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord."(v.51)

Jesus having explained the parables to the disciples treats each of them as a scribe 'a man that is an householder.' They had understood what the power of the Spirit could do in their missionary circuit so the understanding came from their association with Jesus as the Word become flesh. These disciples were called before the foundation of the world. ( John 17:8)

Principle of Similitude sets Jesus Christ as the bread from heaven. The body of man is nourished by food. How it is set in terms of his body spirit and soul we can apply in terms of the Word sent forth. (Is.55:11) The preacher gives us an instance."Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days." The twelve disciples are a proof to it. Their association gives them an understanding of the kingdom of heaven as never before. Jesus as the Word become flesh.

When God created man it was 'in our image after our likeness' Consequently Trinity must be compared the like compared with the like. God breathed into the nostrils and made him a living soul. So truth is knowable. Heart can be most deceitful in man of which the despair of the prophet we read here. Despair of the conflict between law of sin against the Law of Spirit he speaks as an ongoing war, "My bowels, my bowels! I am pained at my very heart; my heart maketh a noise in me; I cannot hold my peace, because thou hast heard, O my soul, the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war."(Je.4:19) Soul, sovereignty of which rests upon God and it is the reality of man. The nacre around which the word of God builds up compares to a pearl."Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:/Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it."(vv.45-46) Man sells all as the disciples who left all behind in order to win Christ.

DeonFourie,

The to me the key for understanding Matt 12:49 is found in the next verse.

Matthew 12:50

"For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."

The key: "For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven."

So those "who do the will of God" should be considered our: brothers, sisters, Mothers, and Fathers, Grandmothers, and Grandfathers.

GBU

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Thank you

I have been presented with a question which gave rise to another question:

In Matthew 12:49 Jesus refers to His brothers and sisters and even His mother as His followers whom He is surrounded by. This He replies when asked by His biological family. Should it then be considered possible that the commandment of "Honor you father and your mother" refers to your elderly persons within the Body of Christ as your "mothers and fathers", and not your biological parents?

If we are to be willing to hate our father and mother and ... ( Luke 14:26) to be a disciple, does these again refer to our biological parents?

Could someone with Hebrew understandings assist me by explaining if there is differences in the term mother and father in the different verses, and what is actual intended?

Thank you

Matt.13:54-59 "A Prophet's honor"

Prophet Isaiah foretold the coming of the Savior. "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:"(Is.9:6) He was delivering the Messianic prophecies as was directed by the Spirit of Christ to a generation whose pride was given, and we see it further down,"The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycamores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars."(v.10) In the shadow of great calamity coming over them from Syria were they unduly worried. Oh no! They knew their Scripture and were awaiting the coming of Messiah-King. Only they did not connect the Promise with the Law given to them and their heart remained in neglect while their observances according to the traditions of their fathers went on as before. Isaiah also had said of the Messiah as a tender plant growing up before them. (Is.53:2)

Here we see Isaiah was misunderstood since by principle of Similitude he referred to the tree of life planted by God in the Garden. The like begets like. Parables of the kingdom of heaven must be comparing the like with like. Isaiah was correct while the nation of Israel read his message wrongly. As with Jesus in their eyes Prophet Isaiah was without honour. "A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house./ And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief."

Literally one may take the narrative mode of the Spirit and make the woods disappear while counting all those leaves as we are familiar. How many times the word perfection comes up in KJV is one example. Spiritually comparing the perfection of the Father in Jesus Christ by abiding in him and seeing the light with his yet another. His grace is what makes our perfection sit well in the sight of his Father. The Spirit has set this down for instruction in righteousness.

DeonFourie,

Here's my understanding of this section of scripture. Matthew 12:46-50 gives us the true understanding of family.

It says in Verse 50, "whoever will do the will of my Father."



The Lord puts a new dimension on family. And we all have our blood relatives and blood family, but Jesus said spirit is thicker than blood. Jesus says that true family are those whoever will be doing the will of my Father.



People will often ask, "What is the will that the Father says we are supposed to be doing? But that's not what it says!



It is giving an evidence and a characteristic of somebody that is saved, because somebody that is saved will be doing the will of the Father.



That is their motive. That's what they are seeking. That's what they want to do. They want to please God.



It is not something we have to do. It is something that we do because of the persuasion of God's Spirit leading us to do it. That is the characteristic of a person that is saved. And that is the person who is doing the will of the Father.

Sometimes people lose family for various reasons. What do we tell them? I guess we could tell them that if they lose family, to go it all alone.



If your family has been split up, and they are Christians, we can tell them to get into a fellowship with the other believers because you have got more moms and dads, and brothers and sisters, than you can count. Join God's family.



So Jesus put a new light on family. Your mother and brothers are out here. Who are my mother and my brothers? My disciples!

Hope this helps!

Could I ask for more info on the topic that I was presented with:

Jesus answered to His family that wanted to see Him, by saying I am with my Mother and Sisters and brethren, ( Matt 12:49) when I am with my followers. Does this then justify that the commandment (Honor your father and your mother) could refer to to elderly "brothers and sisters" within the Body of Christ, be seen as your "father and Mother" and not your biological parents?