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I thought this was suppose to be a discussion on Gen1. Most here are jumping around to other chapters of the bible. One thing that I noticed about Gen1 is that at first we and all animals were vegetians. We ate no meat yet.

Ron, (regarding Revelation 6:12) the angel told John not to seal the book for the time is at hand. The sixth seal has already been opened. Revelation 1:1 The Revelation (revealing) of Jesus Christ. Revelation 1:3 .....for the time is at hand. Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; Joel 2 (prophecy of the day of the Lord) 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come. Matthew 27:45 (arrival of the day of the Lord) Now the sixth hour was there darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour (the moon became blood;Jesus died) 51 ....and the earth did quake,and the rocks rent; Revelation 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell upon the earth..... Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven (carnal minds) and cast them to the earth..... Ezekiel 5:2 Thou shall burn a third part (carnal minds) in the midst of the city......Zachariah 14:9 And I will bring a third part (carnal minds) through the fire, and will refine them (carnal minds) as silver is refine, and will try them (carnal minds) as gold is tried, they (spiritual minds; minds of Christ ; new heaven) shall call upon my name, and I will hear them; I will say, it is my people: and they shall say, the Lord is my God.

There are members of this same True Church in Nova Scotia!

I need a house ,you see I had a home but I had to foreclose on it ,now I'm on disability and my husband had a stroke so we need a home with separate shower walk in for him ,how can we get enough money to buy a home. I've been praying to the Lord but he's been silent .I told him my sins and I'm in great need

How could anyone look at this world and the sun and think they just evolved from nothing? The sun burns at the perfect temp and has never ran out of fuel every since it was created so how many things do you know that burn and never run out of fuel or run low? How can anyone look at the earth and everything in it and think it evolved from nothing to? Have you non believers every thought how complex the human body and all living things on this earth and think it just evolved from nothing to? How can anyone think we were once monkey's? How many monkeys have you seen sit down at a table and chart the course to mars and back to earth? It is so easy for me to see that this world and everything in it was created by God! I have no doubt in my mind. Just think about really hard and then tell me you think everything was not created by God! I will tell you all one more thing. The Bible is getting fulfilled very very fast, just read all the verses on the end of time and you will see! Thank you everyone and God bless everyone of you! Jesus is going to come down out of the sky and we do not know when but he is coming and there is going to be a lot of scared people that day or night!

To Ronnie on Rev. 13:15. Why are you getting upset over the letter "J"? If you're dissatisfied with the name Jesus, then you have to take issue with every other name in God's Word with the letter "J", such as Jacob, Jesse, Joseph, Joshua, James, John, and others. Even Judas!!! Why would you bother yourself and others with something that bears absolutely NO consequence? I pray God will open your eyes to what is important,

This can only be received by faith, this confession of faith is the confession of faith of God's True Church today, though it is recorded, it is not a book with aging papers, it is in the hearts of born again believers that answered the call: "Come".

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More scriptures on Repentance and Conversion:

Luke 18:13 ; Matthew 9:13 ; Psalms 51:17 2 Corinthians 7:9-11 ; 1 John 1:19 ; Luke 15:18 ; Matthew 3:5-6 ; Acts 19:17-18 ; Romans 6:2 ; 2 Chronicles 7:14 ; Luke 19:8 ; 1 Thessalonians 5:22 ; 2 Corinthians 7:11 ; Romans 8:13 ; Colossians 3:5 ; John 5:24 ; Ephesians 2:1 ; Romans 8:2 ; John 3:5-8 ; Ephesians 5:26 ; Titus 3:5 ; 2 Corinthians 5:17 ;

Romans 12:2 ; John 1:29 ; John 3:14-15 ; 1 Peter 3:18 ; Romans 5:1-2 ; Romans 8:1 ; Philippians 4:7 ; Romans 8:2 ; Romans 8:11-14 ; 2 Corinthians 5:17 ; 1 John 3:19 ; 1 Peter 1:23 ; Psalms 119:11 ; 1 John 4:7 ; Romans 5:5 ; Matthew 5:44 ; 1 John 5:4 ; John 16:33 ; James 1:27 ; 2 Corinthians 4:10 ; Acts 11:26 ; Romans 8:29 ; Ezekiel 36:26-27 ; Ephesians 2:2-3 ; Ephesians 2 4-6 ; Matthew 18:3 ; Acts 3:19 ; Ephesians 4:22-24 ; Colossians 3:1-14 ; Romans 8:29 ; Romans 8:29 ; Romans 6:1-2 ; Matthew 1:21

Likely there are more that are missed here.

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You only need one book - the Word of God. It will become confirmation of those things that He will reveal to you during your journey of Repentance.

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

Mark Padmore,

How do you know the coats of skin was animal skin?

My confession of faith on Repentance is the same as written here:

"We believe in a true conversion, justification and new birth. In a true conversion there is sincere sorrow for sin and transgression, and condemnation thereof. The justification is obtained through conversion when believing upon the wrought- righteousness of Christ, becoming liberated from the debt of sin and judgement, whereby we are "born again" and renewed unto the image and nature of God through the renewing of the Holy Ghost."

Luke 24:27 ; John 1:28 ; John 3:3 ; Acts 20:28 ; Romans 1:27 ; Romans 5:1 ; Galatians 3:26

If you should decide to start your journey of Repentance and turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18), we strongly suggest that you start by disposing of your collection of worldly books ( Acts 19:18,19), containing strictly worldly wisdom that is after the wisdom of men but not after God ( 1 Cor. 2:4-7), and that has you in such terrible bondage.

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nov Scotia, Canada

Janice Lane,

I never said Adam and Eve were angels.

I said that Adam and Eve were "AS" angels of light; because they had not sinned yet.

I agree. Adam and Eve were humans.

The notion that Adam and Eve may have put on actual skin is an alternate idea to the coat of animal skin that I find to be possible. I am not saying that I know this to be fact.

I was not there. I do not know for sure. Do you?

From your responses, I will ask you the following:

Where does the Bible state that "this is the first blood sacrifice for the remission of sins"?

Where does the Bible state that the skin used to cover Adam and Eve came from an animal at all?

Where does the Bible state that a "ram" was the animal skin used for the covering?

Are you making assumptions?

We are back to a spiritual birth in the back of a truck at a produce dock in San Francisco, CA. where a new man drove that truck away completely covered by the blood of Christ and in complete peace from the Holy Ghost just like many, many souls that were persecuted by the Roman Church for the same faith.

You spoke of a natural birth and worldly wisdom, but we do not speak of a natural birth but a spiritual birth and the day the believers started their journey of Repentance. There is a 'natural' body and a 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44). The Word of God is spiritually discerned, which the natural man (like yourself) is unable to understand ( 1 Cor. 2:14).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

John 19:31-34

The bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath the Jews asked Pilate that the legs might be broken and that they might be taken away. The soldiers came and broke the legs of the 1st and 3rd prisoners. Jesus was already dead, they did not break his legs. But one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, there came out blood and water." Why did blood and water come out of Jesus' side??

Crucifixion typically resulted in death through one of two ways: The first was HYPOVOLEMIC shock. The prolonged rapid heartbeat resulting from hypovolemic shock can cause fluid to gather in the area around the heart. This is called pericardial effusion.

The second way death occurred during crucifixion was due to asphyxiation. The person is unable to breathe in enough oxygen to survive. Crucifixion victims had to pull their weight up with their hands or wrists that were nailed; along with pushing up with the feet or ankles that had another nail through them. Over time, the ability to push up to breathe would end and oxygen flow would be restricted. *This asphyxiation can also result in the buildup of fluid around the heart.

In either case, the account of John is quite accurate. The Romans saw that the other two crucifixion victims were still alive and broke their legs so they would no longer be able to push themselves up to breathe, resulting in death within minutes. Jesus, they saw He had become unconscious and likely was already dead. To confirm, a spear was shoved into His side, likely under His ribs, that ruptured the PERICARDIAL sack, resulting in a flow of both blood and water.

This manner of death was a brutal end for Jesus, there was also prophetic significance to this event. John states in John 19:36-37, "For these things took place that the Scripture might be fulfilled: 'Not one of his bones will be broken. And again another Scripture says, They will look on him whom they have pierced.

Prophesies: Exodus 12:46. Zechariah 12:10.

my church is journey commutiy church.

people say we are from chimpanzees. is that true.

About the Inquistion that may have put many people to death for their Holy and Loving Faith, many testimonies are recorded in the Martyrs Mirror. Menno Simmons, Dietrich Philips, Claus Ganloff, Peter Twisk, ( I am not sure of the spellings here at work) have confessions of faith well recorded that do not agree that repentance is a process from birth. The only process from birth is learning that some day our sins will come into account and be ready for that call like Samuel. Read these confessions for yourself. Prove their spirit.

When I have time I will quote some for you all.

Carleton

My adult daughter keeps calling me a liar when I am not lying..My husband and grand daughter know I am not lying..Because my adult daughter wishes to control everyone she says I lie..We have given her proof she still won't believe..I am beside myself. We used to be close but not sadly we have this thing ( really not sure) between us..I am baffled :(

Every believer starts the journey of Repentance as a baby ( Matthew 11:25; Luke 10:21; Romans 2:20; 1 Cor. 3:1; 1 Peter2:2). Then they grow into a child of God ( Mark 10: 10:15) and eventually into an adult. Trust us, that does not happen during a 'truck' ride.

Matthew 18:3. Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

1 Peter 2:2. As newborn babies, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby.

Matthew 7:13,14. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the road, that leadeth to destruction (e.g. wildfires, pandemic, hurricanes, etc.) and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

In case you are wondering what Satan's strongholds are in his kingdom ( 2 Cor. 10:4).

- Religion. Consider the history of the Mystery Babylon and the Mother of Harlots ( Rev. 17:5). Do not forget the hundreds of years of the Inquisition during which time the Vatican ordered millions killed under their direction in the most cruel way anyone can imagine ( worse than the methods used by Al-Qaeda).

- Political Authorities.

- The Medical Profession.

- The Media Industry.

- The Legal Profession and Business Community.

- Sports and Entertainment.

Please remember: For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith ( 1 John 5:4).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

Comments by Alex about our new birth. Isaiah 26 v 17 This is so timely, i just had to mention this. Like a woman with Child that Draweth near the time of her delivery is in pain and crieth out in her pains so have we been in thy sight O Lord. The church, humanity is gona have a baby. Rev 12, the 2 nd coming

Comments by Alex about the new birth, there are so many scriptures that hint about it.But Rev 12 the woman is actually giving birth. She is the very best example of the new birth, Her child is the H.G. as that which is born of the spirit is spirit . John explains her child as the Kingdom of God and salvation is now come. 12 v 10. Jesus had said unless you receive the kingdom of God as a lil child you will in no wise enter there in. A lil child implies a birth, thus she is truly the best example of the new birth.And Paul also said as we have borne the image of the earthy we must also bear the image of the heavenly, her child is heavenly,John saw all these things in the heavenly realm ( in the spirit ) The good seed is the word thus her child is spirit as the word is spirit her child is simply the H.G. The child of PROMISE that is gonna be born in us via that good seed. Its gonna happen to every body, 27 times the prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains. Jesus had said the field was the world where that good seed will be sown. Even in the natural a birth requires an intimacy, THATS Y HE HAS TO KNOW US a seed has to be sown, but now the seed is gona be sown in our hearts. That good seed is gonna form a baby Christ in us, thats the essence of the new birth,and thats y he allways refers to himself as THE SON OF MAN,MANKIND IS GONNA BRING FORTH FRUIT UNTO GOD. Thats y Peter is saying being bornagain of an incorruptible seed , even by the word of God that liveth and abideth for ever impling the LIVING WORD not the written word. The seed of the bridegroom is not paper and ink but spirit and life, my words/seeds are spirit and life. All this has to happen that the prophecy that God almighty made to his son might be fulfilled. I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven which implies children, not flesh and blood children but heavenly children born in our hearts, the multiplication of very God which is the H.G.THE CHILD OF PROMISE.Unto US a child is born. gbu

I am glad that this is me instead of you folks. Besides the gate being narrow it is also low with a threshold that one must stoop under to enter. Like a child. Be faithful.

Pray for all Christians for revival of our faith. Go out to win souls and love and help others who needed help

No believer has ever dared to judge himself and claim to be 'Born Again'. The Word of God teaches us that you must be 'Born Again'. Your experience is typical of a religious experience based on man-made doctrines. It is also referred to as self-transformation ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15). You are still wearing the same garment that by nature you were born with but were not transformed by God.

Our message therefore remains the same: Ye must repent. The repentance process and the transformation and conversion by God takes many years as God teaches all those that come to Him. God taught a host of approximately two million people for forty years. Only Joshua and Caleb were left of the original group that crossed the Red Sea. All the rest died in the wilderness. How long the transformation and conversion process takes depends on the journey of every person. Dianne & I started our journey in 1984 and still submit our bodies as a living sacrifice each day for the transformation and renewal of our minds ( Romans 12:1,2). We know, we are slow learners.

Like every other religious experience your 'truck' experience was just your high-minded thinking. That is not how a person becomes 'Born of God'.

By attending a man-made institution a few hours a week ( Acts 7:48; 17:24), does not mean that a person can make a claim that they are followers of Christ and 'Born Again'. That is falsehood, as in truth they follow after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; Rev. 12:9). This is how Satan has transformed Himself into an angel of light ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15).

You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), It is only by revelation of God that you will come to know Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1). It is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg

Dear Andy, Unlike what you believe as you have privately interpreted against me, the scriptures (judged outside of the hedge, the Bride of Christ) against my witness, which is the Holy Ghost, I will not be limited to your interpretation of the saved and non- saved by choosing by your will to project the God's Holy scriptures on me or others.

Carleton

If God give the disciple power to cast out all devil's why could they not cast the devil Out of the kid ? It says because Your unbelief Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting

Matthew 9.14 15 the disciples fast not and jesus said the children of the bridegroom can not fast as long as he is here?

Until the need to share my testimony today became apparent, I had never before correlated my born again experience with the vision of the Lamb. Both experiences took place in a very similar truck. Both trucks were single axle delivery trucks with fruit. Both experiences happened in the very early morning before there was sunlight. The small difference was a year and a half, and that my born again experience I was in the back in the box part of the truck with the fruit, pouring my sins out by faith in the healing blood and sacrifice of Jesus Christ at Calvary, where I found my burdens of sin relieved and immediately a peace came into my heart which I understand as the Holy Spirit in me to this day. In the vision, I was driving the truck up front, thinking of the height, depth and breadth of the Kingdom of Christ when I was taken up in the waking vision while the truck continued driving down the highway heading West towards State College for deliveries.

Carleton

The most recent comments are confirmation what spirit you are of and the spirt you serve ( Luke 9:55; John 8:34).

There are not too many songs being heard in Eastern Canada, similar to California, but for different reasons. People that make their livelihood of the leading industries have their food basket slowly taken away. China has closed the borders to most products (e.g. lobster) and farmers have little to harvest as a result of the severe drought. The rural communities have been dying for the last ten years and the list of businesses that are closing is staggering. It is clear by your comments that you do not know what 'sin' is. It is not an act as you have been made to believe, but rather the 'fruit of the natural man' and is the very reason we urge you to repent. It means to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

Hospitals are a 'stronghold' ( 2 Cor. 10:4) of Satan's divided kingdom and his world ( Matthew 12:26; Luke 4:6; 11:18; John 12:31; 14:30; 2 Cor. 4:4; Eph. 2:2; 6:12; 1John 3:8) and the love you speak of is the love of the world and we know that you have not the love of God in you ( John 5:42).

So our message will remain the same: ye must repent.

The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9), and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( John 14:17).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg, Canada