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Reply to Terry Henson on Luke 17:32. Look in Genesis 19:24-29 KJV.

And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

30For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation.

31The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation, and condemn them: for she came from the utmost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.

32The men of Nineve shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

33No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.

34The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.

35Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.

36If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light.

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This has always been an intriguing portion of Scripture & you may get other views. But I consider Gen 4:2-7 & Heb 11:4 together. Both Cain & Abel brought their sacrifices to the Lord as an offering (maybe a freewill or thanksgiving offering). But the Lord only had "respect unto Abel & his offering'.

I detect that it was both the type of offering & the type of heart of the giver that comes to question. They were still largely vegetarians in those days, I would think, however, the killing of animals for their skins as garments, would have been necessary. It is also plausible that prior to using the skins, that Abel & maybe their parents, also offered up a 'blood' offering to the Lord, maybe for sin (an instruction from God prior to the giving of the Law?) or as thanksgiving.

Hebrews 11:4: "By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh." Here we read that Abel made it to the Hall of Faith Heroes by reason of 'faith' unlike Cain. So here too, I see that a heart preparedness of Abel with his 'excellent' (acceptable) sacrifice of the "firstlings of his flock & of the fat thereof" engendered him & his sacrifice acceptable to the Lord. Whereas Cain came not in full measure of faith & thankfulness, & maybe for necessity's sake & an impure heart.

I see a correlation to us, as we meet around the Lord's Table & as the Scripture asks us to "examine ourselves" first before coming & partaking. Maybe, Cain needed to do some serious introspection & considering his offering before approaching the Lord. But these are simply my thoughts for your consideration that I wouldn't compel upon you or anyone, as Scripture doesn't clearly give us all the details.

That's a wonderful Psalm to conclude the day & I would think that by now you could repeat it by heart. And with a big AMEN at the end. The Lord bless you & continue to fill you with His Love & Assurance of His Presence.

Karen, I don't read or refer to Ecclesiasticus (Ben Sira), however, there is similar verse in Isaiah 45:7: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

To read that the LORD makes peace and creates evil can be disturbing to us. I checked on the Hebrew word for Evil as written in this verse: it is 'ra:'. And this speaks not of sin as we understand sin, but of 'adversity or calamity', as when 'evil (a calamity, suffering) may come upon us. So does God even do evil or want to do this to us? Well, He does, in a sense. In this context, it shows that when there is absence of Peace, whether in a person's heart or in worldly affairs, then there must be adversity. A little like Truth & Lies (they are 'absolutes'): if the Truth is not spoken, then the words must be a lie - and there cannot be a mix of Truth & Lies - then it's no longer Truth. So to, the presence of Peace cancels out 'evil'. So the opposite is true: if there is adversity, then no peace.

So we can't understand this verse as God making it a point to create adversity (evil) for us, rather, that in the absence of His Peace, He permits adversity to be present. It seems to be our choice: if His Peace reigns in us, then no spiritual or emotional calamity will be ours. If we sin, if we're disobedient to His Spirit, then the result is turmoil within.

Matthew 13:8 - But other fell into good ground and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. Why this fruit brought forth stated in descending order. To me it is effectiveness gospel in times. At the time of our Lord gospel was widely accepted. Then in tribulations it becomes sixtyfold and at present it is only thirtyfold only. The decrease in faith gradually evolved in church. Today preachers are enthusiastic, yet their fruitfullness is very low.Our Lord even asked in Luke 18:8- Nevertheless when the son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?. We are now sure that our Lord coming very soon. And also remember that "So shall my word goeth forth out of my mouth : it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I send it. Isaiah 55:11.In the present world only thirty percent believes in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Adam and Eve had more kids, male and female. Remember, People back then lived a long time. Lots of time to reproduce. In fact God told them to.

But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. I can't understand why God had no respect to Cains offering. He was the first to offer something. Was it rotten? He didn't have to kill a poor innocent animal. Being raised on a Farm myself, we ate eggs from chic kens and mick from our cow. Well we did eat chickens but we would never eat our cow.

Healing for our President. Healing for our nation. Hedge of protection for all in harm's way. Protection and salvation and healing for my entire family and myself. Thank you all and God bless.

Is there another deeper mystical meaning for "Jesus make my dying bed", which is derived from Psalms 41:3?

That is true. In bible times ,the day was from evening to evening.

You can actually go on YouTube and see people having RFID microchips put in their hand. It links to a honking big computer and the person doesn't have to use cash or coin. They just wave their hand at the chip reader.

The technology exists already.

As people have discovered, scar tissue forms over the microchip. Slicing that out will hurt! :(

It's not going to be simple tattoos.

How indeed do you think skin grafts of someone else's microchip can go offline from the computer and then be reconnected without showing up on a log or printout?

If you know, write me back.

PS. RFID implants were in the original Obamacare Package. Google it. It was taken out. People still get the implants so their bloodsugar can be monitored REMOTELY. Also find your dog or cat. Sounds like GPS Location technology, huh?

Yep

"When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:

In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.

But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.

Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of Him that created Him:

Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

And above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfectness."

Best and safest place to hide, is in the Lord.

You don't have to take the mark. I may starve to death but I'm taking no mark.

No need to hide, if you are saved. Bring it. If I'm killed I will go to the Lord. If not I will fight.

They have the Bible in Youtube for those who can't READ a scripture on the page.

One of my Stock sayings is: "My opinions and a buck+50 might get me a ride downtown on a city bus". Lolol

My Dad taught me that.

To have a contrite spirit means we feel guilt or remorse over our wrongdoing and seek repentance in place of our sin

Hi William,

I'm sure you're aware that many Christians would disagree with your saying that 'you cannot' go to hell. On the contrary, Jesus spent quite a bit of time in parables and teaching his followers (Christians) warning them against sinning. So, I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion that this young person is somehow immune from going to hell? It literally says in the Bible to fear the Lord. Jesus said that himself. Matthew 10:28

Satan probably doesn't want people to fear Him though, he loves deceiving people into thinking they can sin all they want with zero consequence. The Bible already clearly says most people will go to hell- narrow is the way. And even not all Christians will get in either. Matthew 7:23. Some people should actually be afraid. But if we actually genuinely follow Jesus then we can put our faith and trust in Him and God's grace. Not all 'Christians' follow Jesus or try to avoid sin is the problem. It's especially concerning that people don't think they can commit blasphemy. It says clear as day that people who do this WILL NOT go to heaven. People have freewill and you don't know what they'll choose in the future. Even angels in heaven had freewill to sin and they did- hence satan and demons. God bless.

Revelation 14:9

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his MARK in his FOREHEAD OR IN HIS HAND.

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the WRATH OF GOD, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb [JESUS].

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the MARK of his name. [666]

Wesley's Notes for Revelation 14:10

14:10 He shall drink - With Babylon, # Rev 16:19|. And shall be tormented - With the beast, # Rev 20:10|. In all the scripture there is not another so terrible threatening as this. And God by this greater fear arms his servants against the fear of the beast. The wrath of God, which is poured unmixed without any mixture of mercy; without hope. Into the cup of his indignation - And is no real anger implied in all this? Anger that these refused to receive Jesus as Lord.

Revelation 14:14 [Moment of the Rapture]

And I looked, and BEHOLD A WHITE CLOUD, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man [JESUS], having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

Commentary:

People's Bible Notes for Revelation 14:14

Upon the cloud [one] sat like the Son of Man. Jesus has himself said that the Son of man shall be seen coming upon the clouds of heaven. Here John sees the Son of Man sitting upon a white cloud. The Savior said that his coming shall be with great power and glory ( Mt 24:30). John now sees upon the head of the Son of man a golden crown. The Savior said that he will send his angels to gather the elect ( Mt 24:31). John hears an angel bid him who sat upon the cloud, to reap the earth, for its harvest was ripe.

Mishael =This is why we pray to the LORD of the Harvest.

I don't believe that for a second. Evil don't come from God. Evil comes from Satan.

There was no commanment that a woman was to shave her head. It was to NOT shave her head.

As Freddieo has said, "God's Word is the most precious Gift given to us" in line with His Gift of His Son & His Spirit. Within His Word we read of Who God is, His dealings with people, His Plans for us now & in the future, His Words of help, guidance & comfort for us, & many more things. Those who don't read (& study) the Bible, are missing out on so much for their Christian walk & in knowing their God & Saviour.

We can just read through its sacred pages, but must do it carefully, quietly & seeking the Spirit's help in understanding & applying what we read to our lives. Or, for those who have more time & desire, to study the Scriptures in depth so that much more can be learned which will strengthen their faith & also help others in spiritual need.

God's Word is truly God speaking to us - it's alive, it's current, it's His speech to our hearts personally. When we read or study it, what we do is to allow God to communicate with our spirit & mind & direct our lives. So many believers languish for want of knowledge ( Hosea 4:6 says that "God's people are destroyed (or, in a spiritual desert of ignorance & defeat) for lack of knowledge"). Also, as we read the Bible, wicked spiritual forces are thwarted from interfering with us as they can't bear to be under the sound of God's Word.

We have no excuse today as the Bible is freely available in many translations but so many forsake it. In some countries in the past (& present) where Christianity & the Bible were forbidden, believers, able to find small discarded portions of the Bible, hung onto them, guarded them & read them over & over again, memorizing these few pieces from the Word & found spiritual sustenance from it.

2 Timothy 2:15, 16: "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness." May the Lord help you & encourage you as you take time to read His Word.

I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? Nevertheless man being in honour abideth not: he is like the beasts that perish. Man that is in honour, and understandeth not, is like the beasts that perish. So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee.

Minnie, Paul in 1 Timothy 3:5, gives a long list of the condition of people's hearts 'in the last days'. Now these last days refers to the time after the establishment of the Church, post resurrection & ascension of Jesus Christ. Ever since that time, the moral & spiritual depravity of mankind has grown worse, as we even have evidence of it now. And we will see more of it, in the way people treat one another, no fear or remorse in inflicting pain or death on innocents, people who are full of themselves & prefer to put others down so they are raised up to be admired, given over to pleasure & satisfying the flesh instead of loving God & finding their delight in Him, etc.

So Paul is reminding young Timothy to watch for these evil traits developing in people & to turn away from them, i.e. not to get caught up in their godlessness or even to be accepting of some of their behaviour. So in verse 4, he speaks of those who are "lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God" & continues on in verse 5: "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof...". So some of these same people who love worldly pleasure more than God, will also make themselves appear to others as good Church-going folk. And this would be so easy to accept since we can never know the full character of a person. But these same 'spiritual frauds' who may talk of God, go to Church or even read the Bible, will ultimately reveal that there may be substance but no Life or spiritual Power behind their lives (i.e. no true repentance, no re-birth, no Holy Spirit).

This word from Paul I don't believe is given for Timothy or for us to go around casting judgement on people. But when this is evident (especially in the Church), we need to be aware of it (as the Church leader also), & either give gentle correction & guidance to the one living a double life, but if they shun correction, then Church discipline is in order (see a similar instruction by Paul in 1 Corinthians 5:9-13).

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. Jesus came to this sin cursed world to die for everyone. God gave his son up to die for a world of people that only see themselves as their own boss. Thinking that Jesus play no part in their live. Glory to God, our Lord and saviour. On judgement day let be ready to enter into heaven. Comment for st John 1

Bronson, You do not go to hell for not perfectly living up to God's standard, in fact, you cannot. It is only by faith in Jesus Christ and His death and ressurection for your sin, that saves you. John 3:16-18,36. Romans Chapters 4 and 5. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. May He provide understanding and help to you in this matter.

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Re: the three Earth & heaven ages. I'm open to accepting this as a possibility simply because the Word is unclear on that period of time - only revealing what the state was in Gen chapter 1:1, 2 & the future renewal in Revelation 21. Whatever condition the universe & its worlds were in prior to Gen 1 can only be speculation.

Re: time period between Satan's rebellion & him being found in Eden. Genesis 3 is the first appearance of the Serpent as one of the animals in creation. Whether Satan who was cast out from Heaven ( Isa 14) then was in Eden ( Ezek 28) before man's fall or the other way around (i.e. he was first in Eden as God's cherub & then came his fall), I cannot ascertain from the Word - it's not clearly given.

So when the Word is unclear, my rule is that I'm to remain in ignorance & not proffer an answer. However, when people give their answer to these & other biblical subjects & don't provide a scriptural argument for it, then it remains a theory & a dangerous stand & belief to maintain.

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Thank you EJL for your explanation & understanding of this passage. I re-looked at it 'through your eyes' & I'm still unable to apply your reference of Jer 4:23-26 to God's speaking of the Earth's former condition. Rather, I see this passage as alluding to it in its specific description.

My reasons are as follows: in prophetical writings, we have both the direct words of God to the prophet, whether words to the prophet or to the people. So in Jer 4:1-9, we see God speaking to Jeremiah. Then from verse 10: "Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD!...": we see Jeremiah responding to God. At times he's speaking as from the Lord or he is quoting the Lord (e.g. v17).

Then in verse 19, he exclaims: "My bowels, my bowels". This has to be Jeremiah's voice - I don't see God saying something like this: He never has before. Then verse 22 appears to be God's Words about these 'sottish' children. Verses 23-26 are now Jeremiah's "I behelds" as he envisions the destruction that will come to Israel & then v 27 qualifies that when the Lord says, "For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end." And this goes on in the following verses.

So, I just can't see that this account relates back to God speaking about the Earth's former condition, but to Israel's future troubles. We may have to agree to disagree on that interpretation.