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Brandon,

Jesus prayed to the Father and asked him to sanctify them though the truth. Thy word is truth . To know who Jesus is you must trust the scriptures for the answers. You cant even trust your own thoughts because God tells us that his thoughts are not our thoughts.

John:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. [ Who made the world? ]

v11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. These verses are are a reference to Jesus Christ.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. In red letters Jesus said He is the Almighty

I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

The Almighty was dead when he took my place on the cross !

I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Hope this helps

Please pray that I get my own apartment very soon, pray that I am healed more in body & spirit.

Does the Bible say that we as Christians can feel others physical pain

Thanks Rick,

I know its not the sun, moon or stars . If by spiritual light you mean understanding I don't believe that fits for two reasons . for one understanding was with Jesus Christ when he created the heavens and earth. And the second being that you were told that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth which is physical not spiritual . The closest thing to creating something spiritual would be man and even Adam was formed from the dust of the ground. I don't know what the light was or if it still exists but my guess would be it is some form of cosmic light.

I would suggest reading the NT for a better understanding, but Ephesians chapter 6 tells us about putting on the whole armour of God, I hope this is what your looking for.

Ephesians 6:11 "Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil."

Ephesians 6:12 "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

If someone is torn between two ways of life, then they'll be changing their ways based on how they feel at the moment, so his ways are unstable since they are constantly changing. This person ends up getting the worst of both worlds; the guilt coming from a desire to be righteous, and the pain coming from a life of sin.

There 'IS' a time to answer a fool as the very next verse says in Proverbs 26:5, "..lest he become puffed up (or wise) in his conceit/deceit.." Amen? Amen!

by so doing we truly become Christ like or 'Christian'. Search the scriptures ( John 5:39) and see how Jesus responded to his accusers. Meek is strength (in The Lord) & not weak!

Kol tuv i.e. be well :-)

Are you wondering about James 2:3? The way I understand it is you shouldn't judge people based on their outer appearance, but by who they are on the inside.

To the best of my understanding, it seems to be that God can be understood as 3 entities(God the Father, God the Son, The Holy Spirit) who are 1 in heart, so they are the same in the sense that they would make the same decisions, and feel the same way. I find it difficult to fully grasp as well, but I suppose we won't fully grasp it until we go to heaven, but maybe someone can do a better job explaining it than I did.

Most people who don't believe in God believe science holds all the answers people seek, and that people came up with the ideas of gods or God to help explain things that they didn't understand.

Also, it would be very inconvenient for them if they suddenly came to realize God is real, and that they've been doing things that are very wrong.

All their friends believe all that spiritual stuff is a stone age myth, and they wouldn't want to be the odd man out.

2Thessalonians 2:10-13

2Timothy 2:25-26

2Timothy 4:4

Romans 1:25

Through focus and prayer, you can obtain understanding. Ask God to help you understand.

It seems to mean the one unforgivable sin is not having the Holy Spirit, because those without the Holy Spirit people don't have their debts paid by the blood of the Lamb. So rejecting God and Jesus's sacrifice in their place is unforgivable because forgiveness is through the blood.

Once someone accepts Jesus's sacrifice in their place, and puts their faith in Him, that condition no longer exists, and all can be forgiven.

Thank you,Chris,you are very kind. I will meditate on what you have said!

Deuteronomy 18:21-22 might be what you're looking for.

To the best of my understanding, it's because the sin has to be paid for. The payment for sin is blood because the wages of sin is death. There's some kind of connection between the physical things going on in this world and the spiritual world.

Hello:

I want to thank everyone who responded to me. You have all given me alot to think about.

I apologize, I see that some of my comments may have offended or misled some, so I want to clarify. I had no intention to attempt to contradict or discredit the Bible or Christianity. I only was trying to say that at this time and place in my life, it was not for me. I wasn't trying to come onto a Biblical site and criticize the Bible, Christianity or Christians. I was at one time, a Christian. I am no longer because that particular religion was not compatible for me and so I left. And because I was not treated well back in tbe day by some who identified as Christians.

I came on this site because I saw it advertised on television as a place where people could come together and talk about issues that divide us and find reconciliation. I was trying to figure out if it was possible to salvage a friendship that had been heartbreakingly fractured by some of the events of the day, especially racism. I mentioned my sexual orientation to give the context that this friend did not just come out with a prejudice randomly; she had a history of prejudicial behavior and this was part of why I was upset. I received some very helpful responses and some understanding and I thank those who gave them. Thank you very much and God bless.

This can b a tough question ,in my life i have had a very serious illness and i did not hesitate 2 take the medical treatment offered ,i belive that all good things come from God and that he has given people the knowledge to cure and treat illnessess ,all through my treatment i prayed 2 God and asked him that i might continue 2 live ,i wasnt afraid 2 die i just didnt want 2 yet as i wanted 2 b with my loved ones longer ,i believe u should do what u believe is right 4 u ,if God wants u 2 continue living u will and if God wants u 2 die u will die ,we have 2 accept His decision and trust in His righteousness and mercy ,i thank God that He allowed and allows me 2 continue living .Please do what u think is right 4 u without worrying about it ,we r all always in His hands and there is no better place 4 us 2 b .

I think I get what you mean, but it's not that simple. These were the armor(or armour, as it's spelled in kjv) pieces:

helmet of salvation (protects your most vital part)

breastplate of righteousness (righteousness protects your heart from evil)

loins girt with truth (having a base of truth gives you the center on which to build on)

feet shod with preparation of the gospel of peace (to run away quickly from temptations)

shield of faith (to withstand all of satan's fiery darts)

sword of the spirit (the only offensive weapon, prayer)

You can't exactly put on the armor of God without studying the word of truth and growing your relationship with Him. You have to sharpen your sword and repair your shield and armor before going into battle. This is done by growing in understanding and faith, which comes from studying the word of God.

Biblically give to God First and that believing he will give you increase and supply all your need. In the law it was ten percent or first fruits whether animals or crops but you gave your best first, thats the tithe and purpose of it. Now how and where you give is your call, understand this your responsibility if possible is to give and it must not be grudgingly God loves a cheerful giver, also the receiver is responsible for what he does with it. So who do you trust. The apostle Paul talks about it to the church of corinth. Once you give Let Go And Let God. Thats believing!

Putting on the whole armour of God is learning and walking on His word that sir is a lifelong deal because we who are imperfect ate endeavoring to put on perfection Gods word, remember Jesus Christ respose to the devil during the temptations in luke 4 everytime it is written handing over the authority to His Father and our Father.

Please pray for my brothers and sisters that they will give theirs hearts to Jesus. Pray for my brother Joe for total health and total restoration in Jesus.

i'm trying to understand your point Robert and why so angry.

Please pray for me I need a closer walk with God I need to study God word more deeper, I can't seem to study just surface. I truly need a broke through I need a solid relationship I need to be closely ties up with Jesus.

I've heard that before as well, but we have no clue on the nature of spirits and angels, and what they exactly can and can't do. Also, Genesis 6:4;

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

It differentiates "sons of God" and "daughters of men", implying that the sons of God mentioned are not men. I also heard the phrase "sons of God" in the original texts in this context were specifically used for referring to angels.

Are you wondering about James 2:2-4? The way I understand that verse is don't look at the outside of a person and treat them based on that. Instead, you should look at the heart of a person.

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So a life in Christ is not a "try, see if you like it, then accept or reject Christ" type of association - that is merely religion, whereby one can choose to find a belief system or philosophy that fits in with our beliefs. Christianity - pure Christianity from the Bible speaks of a complete inward change that then pursues the things of God in spite of personal conflicts & challenges along the way. So Claudia, please don't give up on Christ - in spite of your past & even distresses of the present, Christ is your (& our) only Hope for this life & that which is to come. As Jesus is ready to forgive us completely,without partiality or condemnation, it is my hope & prayer that you will find both this Love of Christ in your heart & life & also the love & full acceptance of your friend.

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I hope the responses you've received so far have been useful & I thank you for yours to me giving further detail to the most recent 'outburst'. Of course, not hearing your friend's side of this sad account, I can only discern from what you have shared here. Your friend appears to be somewhat 'highly strung' in her changing moods & rhetoric. As others have shared or intimated, Christians may be a forgiven people but certainly God has still to do a lot more work in us. I'm only sad that you're not seeing a better example of Christ-likeness & by your forgiving her & God's Work in her, she may be able to see herself more clearly.

We have a relative (a lady about your age) who is gay, though never suffering childhood abuse as you have. Her story sounds similar to yours, in that she once was quite a vibrant Christian, but was 'put off' by the attitudes & hypocrisies she saw in her family & Christians generally & felt better served to follow her sexual orientation & indeed go right over to the other side & pursue the Hindu philosophy. She is now quite an active Hindu & turned completely away from anything of Christ. Of course, I can't comment on your 're-birth' experience, as it's something personal between God & yourself, but I do know that if we are born again, then it's a complete spiritual change (not physical) done by God for all time. If one such as yourself should also then have to 'fit in' your sexual orientation in that Work of God, then God certainly will speak, guide & counsel you about it. It will be a struggle, as there are struggles in each of us who may have been given over to behaviour that is inconsistent with God's requirements, but we pursue godliness to please the One Who has brought light into our once dark souls.

Was Moses literally judging them? Or was it more like confession at a church?

Just so everyone knows, this is a Bible website where people can come and read it, discuss it, and those who choose to follow its teachings are called Christians who follow Jesus Christ as a role model.

If someone comes to a Bible site and publicly posts that they disagree with its teachings or think the Bible is wrong for this or that reason, then that can be offensive and judgmental to the many who respect its teachings. One must question the true motives of someone coming to a Bible website who then tries to discredit the Bible.

The Bible says the act of homosexuality is a sin. That isn't an opinion. That is what the Bible says in its text in several places: Link - is someone a Bible follower or a Bible-denier? Is someone a Christ follower (Christian) or a Christ denier?

So, the act is morally wrong and a sin. Just because someone has desires for something doesn't mean he must act on it. People regularly have all kinds of desires for sin, because sin is made attractive. Satan loves to dangle sin in front of our faces, but that doesn't mean we must engage in that sin. People also make a logical fallacy of identifying oneself as this or that, as if that somehow justifies sin. No, identifying oneself as a certain label doesn't make sin ok. i.e. I'm a robber, so robbing others is ok. I'm a player, so having affairs is ok, etc. on and on. It's all the same old, tired tricks that satan plays over and over, but they keep working to deceive people.

God calls everyone to be loving. Love people, despite their flaws. Loving doesn't mean to condone sin and it doesn't mean an excuse to commit sin, however. That's a logical fallacy, false assumption and a deception from satan. Sin is sin. God will judge our actions. Sometimes people pretend to be a victim for being called out on sin. Sometimes that feeling is actually guilt from deep-down knowing what one is doing is morally wrong and evil in God's eyes. The Bible is very clear on this subject and it will not be watered down to make someone feel better about their own sin.

Claudia don't get me wrong sin is sin but something to keep in mind sin is broken fellowship with God which all people commit, the challenge is if you want the deliverance and to experience His love and power and healing then it has to be done His way. Its like trying to build a house for someone without looking at their blueprint ain't gonna happen, also the more you do for God the more he will do for you its just the way it works. You wouldn't give a totally disobedient child great rewards or responsibility same with God people want Him to work their way and trust me we all make that mistake because we don't fully trust and obey.