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Precious friend, Wrath/Great Trib is for ISRAEL and the nations Mat 24 {future};

CHRIST 'Intentionally' Gave to Paul for the 'comfort' of us, The Body Of CHRIST, today = Great GRACE Departure {"NOT appointed to wrath" 1 Th 1:10; 1 Th 5:9}:

resurrection/catching up 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

changing into glorification 1 Corinthians 15:51-57

Judgment In Heaven ( 1 Co 3:6-15), after Which, CHRIST Will Present His Body, holy and

unblameable and unreproveable, In His Sight, To His Father, In Heaven, Where we Live Forever And Ever! Amen! ( 1 Th 3:13; Col 1:5, 22; 1 Co 6:3; 2 Co 5:1-2)

Further 'study' is in the 3rd, 4th, 18th, and 19th {4-part} comments in: Link

Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified! ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL, today?)

God's Simple Will: Link

But what is it to blaspheme the Holy Spirit? How does one do the blaspheming? I want to make sure I have not done it.

I have a kind Shepherd to guide me, No evil I fear on the path; He walks by my side thru the valley;

A comfort, His rod and His staff. The Lord is my Shepherd and I shall not want; He leads me beside waters still;

He maketh me to lie down in pastures green, Forever with Him I shall dwell.

He prepareth a table before me When foes try to lead me astray; In righteousness' path He will lead me,

My cup runneth over alway. The Lord is my Shepherd and I shall not want; He leads me beside waters still;

He maketh me to lie down in pastures green, Forever with Him I shall dwell.

In the desert, my soul He restoreth, Surely goodness and mercy are near; At the end of my days, when He calleth,

I'll dwell with my Shepherd so dear. The Lord is my Shepherd and I shall not want; He leads me beside waters still;

He maketh me to lie down in pastures green, Forever with Him I shall dwell.

"The Lord is My Shepherd" Lois Miller

Hi John , you are correct , the Bible doesn't mess about when discussing human sinfullness . This is why I don't believe that Ham had sex with either of his parents . I think that if he did it would say exactly that . This is just my opinion , I think that Ham found his father 'uncovered ' and had a laugh at his expense , something along the lines of ' look at this silly old drunk ' perhaps ? He said as much to his two brothers and invited them to mock their dad with him . They were a bit more respectfull , Noah awoke with a hangover and in a bit of a bad mood and realised the kind of thing that had happened because of the blanket covering his nakedness . After he had made his enquiries and learnt of Hams disrespect of him , Noah had a few choice words . This is all in my imagination of course . We can always speculate and try to read between the lines as long as we recognise that thats what we have done . May God bless us all with ears to hear and eyes to see .

I pray for my family and that God gives his protective power over us and guides us all to Him. That my children and my wife will be pricked in their consciences by Jesus and turn all of their troubles and concerns over Him to deal with instead of man. Lift the veil of deception from the eyes of my wife and let her see the truth. And help me be the kind of father that you want me to be. In Jesus Holy Name, Amen!

Reading is really fundamental, an comprehension is extremely important, following the subject matter. I'm just always trying to understand, follow, an abide by what is an isn't being taught.

Peace

The subject of that ,.. is sleeping ( death ). An that term Jesus' return,.. is the ones left that are still alive in the flesh , will instantly return to spiritual,.. that's why , if they say Jesus is here , or Jesus is there , believe them not , for upon his return this time , you instantly return to your spiritual body,.. so , as long as you are in the flesh, the real Jesus, is not here !!!

Peace

Lemme give ya my take on the Dog that returns to his vomit and the sowe that returns to her mud thats our old man that goes back into sin. Jesus said when the unclean Spirit is gone out of a man he returns and takes other demons with him and the last state of that man is worse then the beginning. Remember when the Woman gives birth to the manchild which is the H.G. Our new INNERMAN That Child of Promise there was war in heaven ( in the Spirit our minds etc) But its only our old adamic nature the TARES that returns to the mud and the Dog that returns his vomit not our New INNERMAN the H.G. the Child of Promise the Kingdom of God that is gonna be with in US. But the woman was involved in war in heaven But her Child is the H.G. the Child of PROMISE and will rule all nations including our old adamic nature that is in rank with Satan. We are All anti Christ according to our old man, Our adamic nature thats y he refers to Peter as Satan and thats y we must be Bornagain of an incorruptible seed Even by the words of God that new covenant. Our God is a consuming fire and that is what we need. Baptism of the H.G and fire.

Need prayer for me and loved ones. I'm saved but need to move closer to God. Pray that my family would see the need to look to the Lord and ask Him to save them. I felt at one time that God was wanting me to preach the gospel. And I have stood 5 or 6 times and read over scripture that the Lord put on my heart.But now I'm not so sure that was what the Lord was wanting me to do. Please pray for my family that God will save them and pray for me that if God wants me to preach he will put the anointing on me, and if not, pray that the Lord will show me his will and I will step aside. Thank You.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 - if you don't like the word rapture you can call it whatever you'd like, but it would be hard to deny this event in the Bible. Here it says "caught up". We're simply reading and believing this scripture- do you believe 1 Thessalonians 4:17?

Amen thank you God for sending your son JESUS

By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, who can know His own ways? Abiding in Him, will determine our outcome, the savior of the world!

The scriptures speak clearly that 'those who Are alive and remain' will go through them great tribulation'. We have been misled and deceived even by entire denominations saying,"We will escape." This has not been intentional, but rather 'soothing' and easier to swallow. Did Daniel escape before the den of hungry lions? Did the three Hebrew boys escape before the fire? Did John the Baptist escape His beheading, although 'sent from God'? Did any one of the disciples escape horrible deaths? Did Christ Jesus escape betrayal, torture or death? How dare we consider ourselves more worthy than any of them or the billions who lived before us. We may or may not be among those who 'remain alive' until His return. But Paul tells us to be absent From the body is to be present with the Lord' and it is THOSE whom He will bring back with him!

I know the bible often discusses the most despicable and unsavory parts of man's sinful nature. The account in Genesis where Ham "saw the nakedness" of his father seems to be one such scripture.

Growing up hearing and studying Genesis 9:22, I was taught Ham was cursed because he literally "saw the nakedness" of his father Noah. (This seems to be the most polite way of explaining what actually happened.)

Here is the full account of this incident:

Genesis. 9:22

And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father and told his two brethren without.

23. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father, and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

24. And Noah awoke from his wine and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

I have recently come across an interpretation of this incident that is rather disturbing.

In Lev. 18: 12: Thou shalt not "uncover the nakedness" of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman. God is forbidding copulation with close relatives.

In Genesis 9:22 The language is very similar and seems to indicate that Ham copulated with his father Noah and possibly with his mother because a son of Ham was also cursed.

I know this incident is a little unsavory. However, it is in the word of God, and I would like to know the truth about this incident. Especially, in light of the current worldly corruption that is permeating every part of our current world.

Blasphemy, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Most people blaspheme the Holy Spirit all day every day.

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (SPIRIT, since God is Holy, the Spirit is Holy; thus Holy Spirit) which WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

The WORD says the Holy Spirit CAUSES ALL THINGS to be done OF THE WILL of the Holy Spirit, man says NO it's done by mans FREE WILL. Not the miracles of the Holy Spirit.



Matthew 12:32 Says this sin will not be forgiven in THIS AGE (of the calling out of the chosen) or the AGE TO COME (age of judgement); but after judgement they will learn righteousness ( Isaiah 26:9).

Clinging to the cross, while satan is slipping, the sooner his time comes the less control He has. The revelation found in Christ, the power found in the Holy Spirit to guide our way. You are quite right, this tribulation that will come from hell trying to pry the Holy Spirit out of the believing soul. THIS ONE THE SPIRIT OF DARKNESS has taken his place. Those with the mark of Christ shall shine forth. This then is the beginning of judgment! Repent and be baptized

Not a problem. It's good to hear from people, may the Lord shine His face on you, and give you grace in all things. You have a great day in Christ.

In studying and researching the ten Commandments and the topic of "divorce" we discover that men were getting married by placing their cloak over a woman as a sign that she was protected through him. We also discover that once separated, the man and woman could not remarry because it was a form of - incest ... lying.

Yes, all things are to be forgotten once Christ Jesus has life in and through any person; and Revelations 22:15 tells us who will be "outside" of the gates as well as those who are blasphemous.

[satan being the father of all lies reveals who is leading one who is a liar, and why the one who follows satan will not be allowed in heaven. A person can repent and be consumed within the marriage to Christ Jesus and cast satan out of their life.]

Thank you. What you said is what i believe but I had read several statements making it sound bad to be a vegetarian so I thought I would ask.

Only one of the elect, can commit the unpardonable sin ,.. an it's that way , because God protects the majority,.. for he knows only the elect can do this certain job ,.. the elect are not anymore special than all of us , an God loves all his children equally,.. there just the ones that fought Lucifer, when his pride got the best of him , an he fell , along with some angels that followed him instead of God ,.. also a third of our brothers and sisters also followed Lucifer, an that put our Heavenly Father, in a very frustrating situation,.. kill a third of his children ? Or destroy the whole situation, creating this flesh situation, for ALL to decide, weather you will follow God ? or satin ,.. the last shall be first, an the first shall be last ,.. welp , here we are , in the latter days ,.. will you help make Jesus' enemies his foot stool ? or will you be taken in by the false Jesus? The choice is yours ,.. read , study , an ask our Heavenly Father, for leadership, guidance, direction, an to never take his wall of protection down from you ,

Peace

please remember myself and my family today in your prayers , remember my co workers

Thanks so very much for taking the time to respond. You have answered my question with the same response I arrived at, however, it is a blessing that you took your precious time to do so. Again THANKS.

MAY GOD RICHLY BLESS YOU FOR YOUR ACT OF KINDNESS!!!!!

Yes , I agree with you Roland , there has never been a truer verse than : all things work together for good to them that love God . As for the cancer , it seems a million years ago now , it was October 2013 and I found a lump . We are all full of lumps and bumps but this felt different , very firm and like a large pea . Had lots of tests quite quickly on our fab NHS .Got the results in Nov , three tumours one very close to my rib , stage 4 , there is no stage 5 . Hubby was a wreck .Surgery early in Dec 2013 , let's just say I'm no longer symmetrical . 2014 was taken up with 6 chemo sessions and 15 radiotherapy sessions . To be honest it was all a bit of a blur , chemo wasn't as bad as I feared and everyone assured me I suited being bald . I mostly just laid on the sofa and read Agatha Christie novels . I didn't want to die because of hubby , he is the only thing in this life that can keep me here , we were both changed by it all but in good ways . We are both much less scared of death , hubby now believes that there's a small chance he could live without me if he had to and we definately don't sweat the small stuff . Every day is a blessing and I am much more open emotionally , always tell the people that you love that you love them . Make sure they really know it . We both thank God for life .

In 2 Samuel 24 1 who is telling David to take count of the Israelites?

And in 2 Chronicles 21 1 Who is giving David to take count of the Israelites?

That story was in JerusalemPost today. They are running a bunch of new tests on it. There's much more info.

Lots of concern too because people are using ivermectin meant for animals; and it's too strong for a human.

The concept of "blasphemy against the Spirit" is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. Jesus has just performed a miracle. A demon-possessed man was brought to Jesus, and the Lord cast the demon out, healing the man of blindness and muteness. The eyewitnesses to this exorcism began to wonder if Jesus was indeed the Messiah they had been waiting for. A group of Pharisees, hearing the talk of the Messiah, quickly quashed any budding faith in the crowd: "It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons," they said ( Matthew 12:24).

Jesus rebuts the Pharisees with some logical arguments for why He is not casting out demons in the power of Satan ( Matthew 12:25-29). Then He speaks of the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit: "I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come" (verses 31-32).

The unpardonable/unforgivable sin or "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. Jesus said, Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter ( Mark 3:28), BUT then He gives one exception: "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin" (verse 29).

My comment: satan has never done anything good in his existence.

Frequently people may go up front of the church to be prayed for: for healing, favor finding work, a sick relative at the hospital, etc.

And then the prayer is answered according to THEIR FAITH IN GOD.

Some people will say, "ITS JUST A COINCIDENCE, the medication kicked in finally, or some other remark.

That's actually calling something that the Holy Spirit did, NOT a miracle.

The Pharisees accused Jesus of this.

Grant us, Lord God, a vision of your world as your love would have it: a world where the weak are protected, and none go hungry or poor; a world where the riches of creation are shared, and everyone can enjoy them; a world where different races and cultures live in harmony and mutual respect; a world where peace is built with justice, and justice is guided by love. Give us the inspiration and courage to build it, through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Revelation 7:1

And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Philippians 2:10

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Isaiah 37:16

O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.

Genesis 2:4

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Psalms 19:1. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Romans 1:20 - For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Ecclesiastes 3:11 - He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. Genesis 2:1

1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Comment by Mishael: I pray for angels to guard the 4 corners of my home. I have never had any demonic manifestations for 36 years. God gave us DOMINION; and Jesus gives us HIS AUTHORITY to to stop satanic activity immediately.

I think Space dot com slash NASA has the best photos.

I was looking at the moon and Saturn one night ( it was awesome)

Clearly, the moon is round. The sun is round.

If you go to HUBBLE dot com, the other planets are round too. Awesome photos by satellites!

I'm convinced. :D

LET US PRAY THIS OVER OUR NATION:

Daniel 2:20-21

Blessed be the name of God forever and ever, to whom belong wisdom and might. He changes times and seasons; he removes kings and sets up kings; he gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding. (ESV)

Our Nations High Schools REMOVED: Courses on Civics, Social Studies, Step-By-Step how AMERICAN HISTORY CAME TO BE PRESENTLY.

You can't rewrite History by destroying statues, flags, museums and relics of our Nations past.

We have to FOLLOW JESUS to be set free from the past, spiritually. We can't carry a Bible in one hand; and carry hatred and resentment in our hearts. Jesus's throne is our hearts.

Jesus was crucified and shed His holy blood so we all can be freed in our minds and our hearts. We must not trample on His sacrifice.

Hard as it is in these last days of all mankind, all across this world__

Let us all repent of busyness, complacency and intolerance__and lock arms as we wait for the appearing of Jesus in the Clouds.

He will defeat all His Enemies. And someday give us back this world the way it existed before mankind destroyed its beauty. 2 Peter 3

There will be no remembrance of the past: hurt, pain, shame, losses, sickness or disease. We'll be reunited with loved ones who died too soon. God will wipe away every tear we cried.

Hold on tight to Gods unchanging love and commitment as we navigate through this short time, of seeing the world of evil implode upon itself. Like Daniel in the fiery furnace, we will come through this without even the smell of smoke on our clothes.

Some happy future day we will return here to live in Eden, which will cover the earth. Evil will never reign in the earth again. We will work with the angels to build things (I think). Break bread with Jesus ever day, like a real family.

Have hope in this time of witnessing the beginning of the tribulation. Be patient and keep eyes on Jesus. Receive His Salvation.