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Chris That is not my understanding.

Hi Chris It does not say demand tribute or taxes, and the sword is Gods word. Verse 4 For he is the minister of God for good that cannot apply to any government of man, and once again this is written in the context of the church epistles, I.E. apostles prophets evangelists pastors and teachers. Also the sword you mention in the immediate context is against those that do evil.

According to first Corinthians 11 should a woman cover her head when she prays or prophesies either in her own private prayer and devotion time, or in public gatherings? And according to first Corinthians 14:34 should a woman keep silent in church?

Enoch (Hebrew: meaning "initiated") is a name in the Hebrew Bible used by two separate figures who lived during the generation of Adam.

The first Enoch was the son of Cain.

He is described as a son of Cain, and father of Irad. After Cain arrived in the Land of Nod, to which he was evicted by the Lord as his punishment for murdering his brother Abel. His wife became pregnant and bore Cain's first child, whom he named Enoch.

The SECOND Enoch was a descendant of SETH, the third son of Adam, and great-grandfather of NOAH ( Genesis 5:22-29). Seth is the bloodline of Jesus Christ ancestors and Must Not be Confused with Cains ancestor.

First Book of Enoch was at first accepted in the Christian Church but later excluded from the biblical canon. Its survival is due to the fascination of marginal and heretical Christian groups, such as the Manichaeans, with its syncretic blending of Iranian, Greek, Chaldean, and Egyptian elements.

Justin, Athenagoras, Irenaeus, Clemens Alexandrinus, Lactantius, and others borrowed an opinion out of this Book of Enoch, that the angels had connection with the daughters of men, of whom they had offspring (Nephilim: 'the giants of the past'). Tertullian, in several places, speaks of this book with esteem; and would persuade us, that it was preserved by Noah during the deluge. The Book of Enoch, however, was rejected by Origen, Jerome and Augustin as spurious.

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Mishael comment: there is Much confusion as to the First Enoch, son of CAIN (who was cursed by God), in Genesis.

please continue to pray for myself and my family please remember my co workers

Jesus is the way the truth and the life. In him we live move and have our being. In Jesus we have our riches in glory, Lord your grace is sufficient for us. Our resources is limited, while yours is of abundance. Amen.

Thanks guys for commenting. I'm still in limbo on the true biblical answer about my question. I've read the Songs of Solomon scriptures etc. I still don't have my answer. I'm still at the same point. Are you being a sodomite by participating in oral sex period. Some dictionaries again include oral sex as the definition for sodomite. If you're doing what lesbians and homosexuals do how can oral sex be Holy? I'm not married but I'm planning on getting married again one day. This will be my second marriage my first husband and I did not participate in oral sex. He died of Covid while we were separated that's why I'm looking to be married again. I want to be true to my husband on sexual matters But Jesus is first in All things in my life. I guess when I find a sound definition of what a sodomite is I'll have my answer. I'm also going to seek the answer from the Holy Spirit. Sometimes good things are just being made wicked by the devil. That's why you must pray about all things.

How many days was the journey from egypt to the promise land ?

Hello ChrIs,

Thanks! I thought I remembered hearing that once.

So what do you think when the italics are not included?

Does it seem like people are adding to the Scripture unintentionally

to you?

Thanks Mishael!

I use the KJV too. I have several - but was using it from the online King James Bible since I was putting

scriptures on a website and wanted to make sure I did it accurately.

Thanks for responding!

The prophecy in Zechariah 8:20-23 speaks of the future time, in the Millenium period, when Israel, who once rejected God & His Messiah, will truly come to know Him & adore Him. Such will be their joy & testimony, that even the nations around will be aware of this change & the blessings upon them - the heathen will "come to seek the LORD of Hosts in Jerusalem & to pray before the LORD" (v22). They will even cling to Israel in the future (v23), when once Israel was a hated & despised people.

In Daniel 11:32 however, we see an earlier part of Jewish history; verses 21-35 speaks of a Grecian King, Antiochus IV Epiphanes (career from 175-164 BC), who made several expeditions into Egypt (vv24-27), & then turned his hatred onto Israel (v28). In venting his anger upon the Jews, Antiochus declared the Mosaic ceremonies illegal & erected in the Holy Place a statue of Zeus (v31). Some Jews resisted him & were martyred (vv32,33). As evil as this king was to the Jews, we also get a picture of this king's antitype, in the Anti-Christ who will once again come upon the Jews (vv36-45). Here again, the Jews will suffer badly for their rejection of the True God & His Christ, but will one day in the future, will worship Him through the Name above all names, & as we read in the Zechariah portion, they will be mighty witnesses for Christ Jesus.

So these two passages show how hard the hearts of Israel are & the change coming. Despite so many prophetical warnings, as well as the Son of God presenting Himself to them to alert them, making God real before their eyes, even giving His Life for them, they still remained blinded & deaf to the patient Call of God. But one day they will know & see the One Whom they pierced ( Zechariah 12:10; Revelation 1:7) & full blessing will be restored to them, as even to those who call on Jesus now.

I believe in a pretrib rapture, what are your views about rature , pretrib, midtrib Bible verses to support it

and also whether you think the vacc is the mark of the Beast, released step by step into it's full form as described by the Bible.

David said, "Delight thyself in the Lord, and He shall give thee the desires of thine heart."

I say, "The desire of my heart is to, delight myself in the Lord."

Hello Free. I'm sorry that I missed your comment to me, but will address it now. My apologies.

In 1 Corinthians chapter 11, the apostle is speaking about this relationship within the New Covenant. Before Jesus came to Earth as a babe, the Bible tells us that He was the Word of God ( John 1:1-14). In other words, God manifested Himself to His people, Israel, through the giving of His Word & by His Spirit through His prophets. But now in these last days (i.e. New Covenant days - post Cross), He has spoken to us by His Son, that Word Who was made Man ( Hebrews 1:1,2).

So, now when we see Jesus, He is seen (in the NT), as God made flesh, died, buried, resurrected, & ascended to sit at the Father's right Hand ( Luke 22:69; Colossians 3:1; Hebrews 10:12). Jesus holds within Himself the full divinity of God His Father, all His Glory, & receives all the worship ( Hebrews 1:6; Revelation 5:12), but He now remains distinct in 'bodily' form because of His incarnation. And this is a picture of how we will be when translated to live in Heaven ( 1 John 3:2).

Therefore, God as Jesus' Father will always be at the Head, then Jesus as His only begotten Son next in position, then man as God's first creation in God's Image, & then woman made out of man, both of them bearing God's Image.

I don't understand your statement: "Also how do you say we are not under the old law but then makes new laws for women?" The only way I can understand your statement is to say that under the old Law, there was neither need nor provision for women preaching in the Church; there was no Church. This "ordinance" that Paul delivered ( 1 Corinthians 11:2) is entirely based on the risen Christ & His Church - nothing at all to do with any 'old' Law or whether the women of old ministered as prophets, judges, warriors, etc. Under the New Covenant, there is also a new order in His Body, as for those who now worship God in spirit & in Truth. Blessings.

why did James say this

In my understanding the first and last scripture reference you posted say we will be 'sleeping' between death and when Jesus comes. And others say we will be judged. There are verses saying we will be judged on the same day also. To me, all that fits together and carries a lot of weight. There are isolated verses that can be used as possible evidence of going immediately to heaven or hell, but I think it's very light in comparison to the evidence for 'sleeping'. It would be quite hard to explain how all the other verses logically fit, and why someone would skip judgment to go to heaven, then back to earth, only to go back to heaven again, then be judged, after they were already in heaven and all this as a formality? All this just to comfort people at funerals? But it seems clear to me we will sleep and it will feel like only a second goes by and Jesus will be here, and time will pass instantly just like it does when sleeping. God bless.

Praying for land for house, business, and unknown prayers. Thanks.

I love thinking about Matthew chapter 28 verse 19 i love their story from bible is God's word in the bible i love God he's is my important God we love him he made us and made me Jesus he die on cross shed of blood we pray i pray for God for loving us he's in my heart he will listen to me and everyone guide you and guide me for taxing other people he's waiting for me when i die see Jesus in heaven is real life is real is not joking i'm truth of life God sent to me i'm only one i say i'm truth of life truth is telling you truth come to me you need telling the truth from John verse 14 is I am the way of the truth no comes to my father but by me truth of life I'm here i'm am truth of life God made me he did sent to me just me you need pray for God and his people from heaven i love God I love Jesus and i love Holy Spirt. Any questions from me i'm here your questions.

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Thank you brother Carleton. That would indeed be a fine line in my understanding. The child of God must refuse that which is evil, yet not render evil for evil. Maybe you could expand your thoughts as time permits, that we may learn.

Hi Rick. I have re-read Romans 13:1-7 & tried to read it inline with your understanding. However, to do so, doesn't make sense. I've never encountered the Church (elders) bearing the sword against their congregations or an avenger to execute wrath, or even demanding tribute (taxes).

Is that how you read it?

Mark 9:17-29

Matthew 17:14-21

Mark 16:15-18

Hopefully these are helpful

Dear Hope,

Yes, you are correct about water baptism according to Jesus.

We should believe in what Jesus states in scripture below:

John 3:5

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

Note: Don't let men confuse you, always test the scripture by comparing what Jesus tells us. The only way to God is through Jesus.

John 14:6

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Many today will turn their back on Jesus, and preach another Gospel that differs from what Jesus taught. They will say many things to try to convince you to turn your back on Jesus and God.

If the gospel or scripture, or man's word's don't match what Jesus says in scripture, it really means nothing. Jesus will be our Judge and he will make the decision on whom enters the Kingdom.

Revelation 22:12-14

12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

God Bless.

I think the scripture reference used is Hebrews 12:1

In context Hebrews 10:35-39, Hebrews 11:1-40, continues = Hebrews 12:1-11

Hopefully these are helpful.

1 Corinthians 15:51-58

Luke 16:22-26

Hebrews 9:27

Revelation 2:11

Revelation 20:4-6

Revelation 20:12-15

Revelation 3:3-5

Revelation 21:10-27

1 Thessalonians 4:14-17

Revelation 7:4-8 12x12=144 specificly of tribes of Israel, Revelation 14:4-5

However Revelation 7:9-17 gives hope to all others

Hope that's helpful.

Hi Adam, I want to start off by apologizing to you, i sounded confrontational, and a little bit of a smart mouth, I did not choose my chose my words wisely, and I am sorry for that. I must of misunderstood the question, I thought they was asking what the curse was, and why he was cursed, and I have only been studying for about 6months now, and don't have much education, I will have to look for that website that I got that information from, I will send it to you and Chris, and I could be wrong, I don't want to discourage, or mislead anyone, I never meant for you to think, that I was saying the KJV isn't the word of the Most High GOD, I just thought that they left out some of the words, and if so, why? For example, the left out the book of Enoch, and that should of definitely been in the bible, because Enoch was face to face with GOD, and walked with GOD, and didn't suffer death for

GOD took him, and like I say, If I'm wrong about it, I'm sorry and I never meant to mislead anyone, I just want people to look and make sure for themselves, don't believe it just because that's what you were told to believe, because when it's all said and done, we will all stand before the LORD. May GOD bless, you and yours brother Adam and Brother Chris.

Luke 4:2 He fasted, 40 days was hungry, yet it's spiritual, some say supernatural

Deuteronomy 8:3 also HE quoted scripture,

Hopefully that's helpful.

Song of Solomon 2:3, Song of Solomon 4:1-15, Hebrews 13:4

It does NOT say a woman isn't allowed to wear pants. Deuteronomy 22:5, Deuteronomy 12:32

Remember John 3:16, Matthew 25:31-46,

it's talking about dressing to resemblance appearance as opposite sex.

At about 5 or 6 years old, I was told by a neighbor man, I should wear a dress, I wore a dress & the "monster" raped me both ways. I went unconscious more than once & was held by a heavenly being after I asked to die. The heavenly being comforted me he was wearing a white robe. I had a conversation as an adult outside of my young self, I guess in the heaven. Then I was back.

Later I was in a church Sunday school that I was made to wear a dress, (by step mother) the boys would lay on the floor to see my undergarments. It was emotionally painful & I would cry not to wear a dress. Even as a young adult men have been dishonorable when I wear shirts or dresses. I could use it for my gain!! However I rarely wear s dress & when I do, heads turn. I find it much more modest to wear pants. The husbands at the churches, stores etc don't stare as much when I wear pants.

Pants aren't what disqualify someone from heaven.

Part II OR: Baptism Of Repentance For The Remission Of sins?:

God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

(1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve 'Were Sent' to water baptize!

The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6 Mark 1:4 Luke 3:3 John 1:31 Luke 7:29-30 Acts 10:37 Matthew 28:19 Mark 16:16 Acts 2:38 Acts 22:16 Ezekiel 36:25 John 18:35 Exodus 19:6 ) +

B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3 Matthew 3:11 Mark 1:8 Mark 16:17-18 Luke 24:49 Acts 2:17-18 Acts 2:38 Acts 8:15-17 Acts 11:16 )

Prophecy/Law

Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15 ) From Things That Differ!:

(2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

Paul 'Was Not Sent' to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5 Colossians 2:12 Galatians 3:27 Romans 6:3-4 1 Corinthians 12:13 )

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Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God Saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

Thus, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

More spiritual understanding of 'Prophecy vs MYSTERY':

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