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Rick and Mishael,

It is very evident that evil spirits are active in our sphere of existence. The Incarnate Word, Jesus, took them on in His authority as God when they manifested in "broad daylight" before many people. They didn't just begin to work evil in the world during Jesus' time on earth. They did this work from the beginning. And they did not stop working evil when Jesus died and rose and ascended. They have continued working evil to this day. A lot is done in "secret" when people participate in occult practices. But in foreign countries such as Africa and Asia, they do manifest openly in people they are torturing.

They constantly war against God, believers, and the witness of the Church. Perhaps we have been lulled by the ease of life and protection here in the U.S. to not pay attention to these evil entities. But they are paying attention to us, whether we are aware of it or not. We can hide ourselves in Christ and be equipped for the task of interceding for others, speaking God's Word to repel evil spirits, and walking in obedience to Christ.

I appreciate your perspectives, as I have had just a few experiences where I knew I was dealing with something evil within a person I was interacting with. I am thankful it is not an everyday occurrence. But for some, it is a daily battle. May we keep these people in our prayers, whether we know them by name or not. The Spirit will help us in intecessory prayer, praying in and through us.

Thank you very much

Leland,

It is true that Judas repented. But is it really the same repentance that a person expresses when they realize their sin and need of a Savior. I would say no, and please allow me to explain how I come to this conclusion.



First off, we do know that the Bible says that Judas repented. But the word used where it says he repented is not the word used for repent as in making a decision to change the direction of your life and surrendering your life to Christ.

The repentance you mention that we as believers express is the word METANOEO which is true repentance where a person makes the decision to change the direction of their life. And that person must realize that they cannot change themselves. They need Christ to make that change.

The word METANOEO is not the word that was used for Judas where it says he repented. That word is METAMELOMAI which is a word that means to be sorry for your action.

So yes, Judas was sorry for his action, but he did not express true repentance and ask for forgiveness. Plus, Judas was evil from the very beginning when Jesus chose him to be part of the 12. Jesus chose an evil man to fulfill an evil deed.

I just wanted to share this with you on the word repent. We see it in our English Bible and we know what repent means in English. But knowing that there is more than one word in the Greek text for our English word repent, I have to conclude that Judas was only sorry for his action (METAMELOMAI), because that's the word that was used, and he never truly repented (METANOEO).

Thank you for the answer.

Very good explanation, Jesse

Yep, Jesus is above all else, pre-eminent.

Linda. There are two references to this: Isaiah 13:9.10 and Joel 3:14-16.

GiGi, very well put!

Yes, and God's revelation to man that leads us to know Him through His Son, Jesus Christ, of Whom the gospel testifies.

Brother Chris,

I agree. My understanding is that end time prophecies are centered on the Jewish People. So if a prophecy is ever presented as centered on the United States of America, you know it is going to be off. All prophecy is centered around the Jewish people.

Carleton, I have thought that also.

Hello, Amarin,

I think that the verse in Jeremiah is referring to an Asherah pole or tree, which was usually carved in the image of the goddess Asherah, also known as Asteroth, Ishtar, Isis, etc. These poles/trees were stood up next to the altars of Baal, also known as Marduk, Molech, etc. (the Moon god). These idols were used in worship. They were most often placed on "high place" (hills, mounds) and often among a grove of trees (sometimes trees they planted specifically for worship purposes).

Chris and Jesse, agreed, we should work diligently to study what Scripture actually says trying our best to put aside our biases and bents, so that we can be sure not to add to or stretch what we think is said, but consider what is actually said.

Hi Tony Its not that devils have natural traits, when a human is possessed the entity literally controls that body

at its will, notice I said devils because that's what scripture calls them. Also there is a major difference between

possession and influence, this is a field all its own that very few people believe or understand. One example I know

of possession was a person I think in China could change the form of metal by thought, that was spiritual power.

Any person that displays a so called ability that breaks natural law walking on coals of fire, so called mental telepathy

clairvoyance , clairaudience, these things are forms of influence or possession.

All of the above can be delivered and set free by the gospel.

Asking prayer for my sister (needs deliverance from bondage, emotional instability and salvation), my dad (alcoholic for 50 years, salvation), my niece (lots of heart and soul wounds from emotional/verbal abuse, believes in Jesus but is not allowed to "live" her faith at home, read the bible etc. and the enemy attacks her), my mom and I who are believers but struggle with many things, need healing and deliverance), in my church there are quite a few who need deliverance and healing (emotional instability, perhaps demonic issues), for us believers to be equipped to deal with these things with more power. Asking for protection (spiritually, emotionally, physically) for all of us. Asking for the Lord to grant an outpouring of the Holy Spirit on a large scale (worldwide) so that multitudes go free (freed from addictions, emotional issues, the demonic) and are saved (most important). Most my relatives are not saved, none at work, most people where I live. Its a very dark place spiritually. Thank you for praying and may the Lord multiply these prayers so that many who have similar needs get helped too.

Look how closely these 2 prophets parallel each other. Ten thousand x ten thousand and thousands of thousands.

Daniel 7:8-10 &

Revelation 5:8-11

When I read with a Christian attitude

I believe Judas repented and was forgiven by Christ for his betrayal

1,at last supper the decipiles all asked is it I

2,Jesus said it is the one who dip into the bowl at the same time ad Jesus

And when he did satan immediately entered into Judas therefore satan was not in Judas before that

3 Jesus Said go quickly and do what you are to do

4. So Judas identified Jesus and they bound Jesus

5.he later said he betrayed an innocent man and repented

That is the same we all do when we realize as sinners we repent

And ask for forgiveness and accept Jesus as our lord and savoir and he is just to forgive

6,Judas took the money and threw it back at the priest and left

And he went and hanged himself

Who would not feel such sorrow and depressed that he could have done such a thing

Depressed can get so depressed that they cannot accept what he did

He did not buy a field

That field was where he hung himself and where the priest buried the money as that they could put put blood money back in the treasury

How long hang on that tree before he started to decay

Not long as insects would attack an would be easy to fall from the Knose

And hit rocks head first to the. Rocks and spilt open

Resembling when in state people would split there clothes In sorrow

The veil of the temple split when Jesus died on cross and no longer needed any except Jesus to go to god for propitiation to god as he the way the truth any the only way to his father

Cannot Jesus forgive and remove devils he sure can

6 peter denied Jesus 3 times before the cock crowed

The deciples to stay awake while he prayed

He found them sleeping 2 times

Is that not betrayal

God forgave them and Peter

And all the deciples ran and hid when the crowd came and arrested Jesus to save their lived

So is that not betrayal

God forgave

Only John present while jesus was crucified

And told John to take care of his mother

Judas had to do to fulfil the scriptures

Thank-You !!

Thanks Adam, your response was just what I needed...I appreciate it !

Rick,

What I was getting at was the US attacking itself on 9-11 to begin the fifth trumpet, Revelation 9. This is exactly exactly how anti-Christ begins the sixth trumpet with a surprise attack (takes three horns/towers). However, as I point out, in this case the US was quoting the sixth trumpet prophecy where the beast destroys Babylon and three kingdoms of his own confederacy of 10 to 7. The US may be sneaky, trying to couch itself as the mighty Russian beast, but there's no denying who the treacherous one is. Isaiah 33:1

When the smoke clears, America's sun will have gone down while it was yet day. The Arabs will break forth in song. The triumphant Russians will break out their 9-11 satellite trained footage and broadcast what really happened at the World Trade Center and Pentagon to a bewildered world.

Please Pray with me for healing in my body, Our Father knows the details and please Pray with me for understanding of Him and His Word and my children and family to repent and turn to God.Thank You.

Amen, brother Jesse. Guessing prophetical meanings doesn't do anyone any good; we should stay close to what Scripture does reveal for our consideration & prayer.

I feel the same!

The woman in chapter 12 are the 144,000 saints sealed for 1260 days, protected and nourished against death. They are disguised in several instances to make you think there are additional characters to the plot. No one else in Revelation is sealed for 1260 days but the saints, the witnesses to antichrists crimes. That's who the woman represents here.

Please read Jeremiah 10:1-5 which seems to compare admiring a cut down, decorated tree to worshipping idols.

Your faith is probably if superficial if during tough or trying times you do not trust or stand solidly on The Word of God.

Tim Babylon the great whore is the Kingdom of the adversaries greed world wide, a whore is a

user so to speak, the Ruler of this kingdom was Nimrod the mighty hunter Before the Lord [ which means

in absolute defiance or in Gods Face] you can trace the idolatrous systems of the world back to his kingdom which God

scattered at The tower of babel. The worship of Ashtoreth and Molech and Queen of heaven and the Zodiac,

and many other idolatrous worship around the world can be traced to Nimrods rulership, he was a kingpin for the adversary.

Always nice to hear from you brother Carleton!

The Bible is The Word of God traditionally consisting of The Old Testament, The New Testament, and the Apocrypha. Some say the 14 Books of the Apocrypha was removed from American Bibles in the 1800's.

In many older American Bibles the Apocrypha was placed between The Old Testament and The New Testament because some believe the Apocrypha was written between the period between of The Old Testament and The New Testament. The Greek word for word Apocrypha is apokryphos means hidden.

The 14 Books of the Apocrypha are I Esdras; II Esdras; Tobit; Judith; The rest of Esther; The Wisdom of Solomon; Ecclesiasticus; Baruch, with the Epistle of Jeremiah; The Song of the Three Holy Children; The History of Susanna; Bel and the Dragon; The Prayer of Manasses; I Maccabees; and II Maccabees.

Good afternoon David! Hope all is well. Thank you for your comment. I agree with you 100% that spirits cannot procreate. But I am not suggesting that demons are procreating as spirits. I am suggesting that the sons of God are devils that were banished from heaven to earth. There they took on natural bodies.

Do you agree with me that demons can possess a natural body? If you do, then demons would have natural attributes.

One attribute would be physical strength. Consider Matthew 8:28 - And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.

Another physical attribute of a demon possessing physical attributes would be procreation. Perhaps you have insight into who the sons of God were. I am more than willing to change my understanding based on Scripture.

BTW, I also agree with you on your creation statement. Have a terrific day, David! What a great Biblical name!