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Hey Dennis,

Satan is permitted, for a time, to rule over the majority in this world as we see when he tempted Jesus, Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

We see again Satan who deceived the whole world when he is cast down to earth permanently, Revelation 12:7-9. He then gives his power, his seat, and authority to the beast over the world, Revelation 13:2. But Satan is limited in accordance with God's will and he dwells in darkness and that is the boundary of his territory. Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

That is why we must do as in Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

If we walk in the Spirit and the true light is in us, darkness will have nothing to do with us, we have victory in Christ. The time is coming when Satan is cast down and gives his authority to the beast, those of us who are still living will see the darkest time and go through it, Jesus does not return until after the tribulations of those days, Matthew 24:29-31 Mark 13:24-27.

So, walk in the light and not in the manners of the world where there is darkness.

God bless,

RLW

John 15:19, John 15:15-27, Romans 12:21, 1John 4:4,

John 16:33,

Please read the WORD for yourself : * Mark 16:17,

Romans 11:29, Romans 12:5-21, Acts 2, Acts 10:46, Acts 19:6,

* 1 Corinthians 12, whole chapter speaks of Spiritual gifts. Ephesians 4:4-25, these chapters: 1 Corinthians 13, 1Corinthians 14, also covers 'Speaking in tongues '

Hopefully these are helpful in your searching for true understanding

One night while laying bed and praying I was overcome by the Spirit, and I started speaking rather praying in tongues the next thing I know is that it was morning and I had prayed in tongues the whole night. So, I know they do exist are a sign of having the Holy Ghost, Baptism of the Holy Ghost. Now as far as interpretations and Prophesying I'm sure it exists but knowing whether the person is really doing it I don't know if you can tell. I've attended Churches that do it speak and interpret it felt strange. I can tell you this that all gifts and answers to prayers depend on our righteousness, James 5:16

"Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

King James Version (KJV)

I suggest you do a word search on tongues and study it, comparing all the verses which pertain to it and pray because many times when I have a question on scripture it's revealed at a later time while I'm reading or sometime while praying. But the most important thing is obeying God's word, but one must know it to obey. Here are some verses to help you in understanding God's word: 2 Timothy 2:15, John 14:26, 1 John 2:27, Romans 12:1 I'm not sure why or how I begun speaking in tongues, but I do know it's a sign of having the Holy ghost as we see happen in ACTS, In ACTS there is a verse that says in reference to it that says they only yet believe and have not received the Holy ghost as we. I believe that if you are truly saved the baptism of the Holy Ghost happens so the believing in Jesus is emphasized by believing it in your heart, like it's real, knowing it with doubt. John 5:39

"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

faith without works is dead, read, study, pray, and serve God, faithfulness in whatever you do, do it as unto the Lord not man. Obedience.

I think you may find your answers in : 1 Samuel, 2 Samuel, Luke 1, Luke 2, 1 Corinthians 12, John 11:51,

Hebrews 3:1-6, Hebrews 4:14-16, Hebrews 5, Hebrews 6, Hebrews 7, Hebrews 8:1-13, Hebrews 9, Hebrews 10,

Romans 12:4-6, Hopefully these are helpful in your study

Thank you so much. I have yearned so much to gain more of God's Word, that I might "Not" be unlearned of His Word. His Word is a light unto our Path and leads us to way that we should go. My desire is to be a Vessel to be used by God bringing unto Him His due Glory, and unto His Church here on earth, Victory is ours to win. All of this I do as "Unto the Lord", He has loved me before the foundation of this world. To shed light, to do His Will, follow the commands with Love and savor this World as Salt, is my responsibility, Romans 12:1, be Ye transformed. This is the least that I can do. I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the Good News, the Grace of God, our Redemption, paid in full.

Son's of GOD = 1 John 4:15, Galatians 4:7, 1 John 5:10, Ezra 3:2, Hebrews 12:7, Revelation 21:7, 1 Timothy 1:2, 1 Corinthians 6:2-3,

Jesus CHRIST the MESSIAH referred to the most as Son of GOD. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Hebrews, etc.

Luke 3:38,

* Romans 8:14, * Hebrews 1:13-14,

I understand "Son's of GOD presented themselves before GOD" to mean= they prayed notice Job 1:5, "offered burnt offerings" then vrs. 6._._._ the accuser came, Revelation 12:10,

Genesis 4:26, Luke 3:38,

Exodus 34:2, Leviticus 14:11, Leviticus 16:28, 1 Samuel 10:19, Daniel 9:18, Luke 2:22, Romans 12:1, Jude 1:24-25,

Please read:

Jeremiah 9:23-25, Zephaniah 1:9,

Promise of punishment to Hebrews if they did not reform; Leviticus 26:23-25, Amos 3:2,

GOD's punishment; Jeremiah 44:13, Hosea 12:2,

Ezekiel 25:14,17, Jeremiah 51:11,36,37, Psalms 94:1, Jeremiah 50:15,18, Luke 21:22, Isaiah 63:4, Micah 5:15, Isaiah 61:2, Psalms 149:7, Jeremiah 11:20, Isaiah 47:3, Isaiah 34:6-9, Psalms 99:6-9, Ezekiel 25:12,

Isaiah 59:16-21, redemption & recompense, Jeremiah 51:6, Jeremiah 30:20, Zephaniah 1:8,

2 Thessalonians 6-9, Hope of GOD's recompense, it is "righteouss" Isaiah 35:4,

Romans 12:19, Hebrews 10:28-31, Deuteronomy 32:35,

Jude 1:5-7,

Nahum 1:2, ''GOD is furious"

Spencer shaw In Romans 12:2 the word conformed[suschematizo] means fashioned in the same way or give over to the pattern of lifestyle or thought sometimes forcibly. That's why its renewed mind to the things spiritual, new man in Christ

which goes against natural man's thinking. 1 John 2:16 Comes to mind.

Valerie First to get to renewed mind a person must be born again I.E. confess Romans 10:9+10 and believe and

start changing your thoughts and habits to what Gods word says which is walking by the revealed knowledge of Gods

Word. This is not sense knowledge thinking,sense knowledge thinking is based on sight,sound smell,touch, and taste.

After born again new input holy spirit which requires putting on Gods thoughts on who we are in Christ and

believing that in our day by day habit patterns or conscience thinking with consistence. Romans 12:2 By doing this

we prove by believing in what God has done what is His good acceptable and perfect will. You cannot do this with

sense knowledge thinking 1 Corinthians 2:14 because you cannot know God with experienced knowledge without Him

revealing Himself by the holy spirit. Then our job Ephesians 4:24-32, Ephesians 5 whole Chapter, Phil. 2:1-15 this is

some things of how to think, also the gospels is loaded with principles. Mathew Chapt.5,6,7, also John 14,15,16,17

those of us who were going to believe what shall be. This is litterally the tip of the ice berg.

What does it mean to not conform to the pattern of this world ( Romans 12:2)?

Donna We keep the word in our hearts where we first believed Romans 10:9+10 and then Proverbs 4:23 kicks in Guard

guard or keep thy heart Gods Word with all diligence[mental effort to get desired result] for out of it are the issues of life. The more we put in our mind Romans 12:2 the more we believe in our hearts and the more we walk in the spirit we have

been given. Then we are witnesses because of changes in our lives.

Amen Brother David,

Romans 12:2-3. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

Thanks for the reply,

God bless you.

David welch on Exodus 20 Throughout Gods word there are alwaystwo Great commandments which always hold

true ander the patriarchs the law and grace. Mathew 22:35-40. Thy neighbor is a friend in context and the same

applied all throughout the old testament. Romans 12:17-21.

Hello David In the gospel of Mathew the Royal law applies here in 37-40 the second half love thy neighbor

as thyself, the word neighbor if friend. The word neighbor in Exodus is friend or companion and is used 13 times

the idea is we walk according to Gods rules with all and then God will deal with it. That's my understanding

In Romans 12:18-21 is our rule in the Church.

Failure Just to help you in understanding what God did for us in forgiveness of sins by Jesus Christ

and making it available to walk by the spirit is all Grace, Gods Job. You committing to continue in your

renewed mind Romans 12:2 is your job to put on the Word and do the scripture. God is not going to make you do that

to do that because he doesn't control us but what you sew is still what you reap.

In society we're seeing a lot of evil called good, and good called evil. Criminals are being rewarded in our justice system, for example. People who loot, assault others, commit crimes for a 'cause' are generally let go with no punishment, while people who try to defend themselves against evil are now prosecuted. Invaders are even paid by certain hidden programs to invade their own country in order to accomplish a certain ideological objective. Money is being stolen from citizens to pay for these ideological partisan programs through government mass printing money to devalue everyone's currency. As if people weren't already financially struggling through recent events, now the government is stealing from innocent people.

It occurred to me that the Bible has predicted this.

Isaiah 5:20

And I found some other verses explaining what we're currently experiencing in society.

2 Timothy 4:3 - this explains the rampant propaganda in the media today. Many peddling lies aren't even as ashamed to be caught doing it anymore and believe the end justifies the means. It turns out their end is not truth, but their religious political objective. To many it is their political ideology is their religion and is their false god they worship.

2 Peter 2:1 - false teachers. In the last 12 months I've heard more false teachings than ever before. Huge attacks on Christianity coming from all angles, even deceived Christians. Amazingly distorted views of God, the Bible, sin, morality, and all kinds of things that are very creative and almost clever in how distorted it is. It turns out there's much pressure to conform to the world's version of morality and some seek to bend God's morals in order to fit the world's morals rather than the other way around, despite Romans 12:2. The Bible and God's morals haven't changed, only some people do.

2 Timothy 3:1-5 - warns about end times.

Folks, I believe we are entering the end times. The time to get right with God is running out. May God's blessings be on everyone here.

Hello, here are some scriptures to consider:

Romans 12:17-21, 1 Peter 3:9, 1 Peter 3:14.

God bless

I believe Judas will go to hell, because he betrayed Jesus to help murder him for profit. This is like blasphemy and turning his back on Jesus. Peter denied Jesus, which might also be a form of blasphemy, however, I believe Jesus forgave him through a special circumstance- asking if he loved Him three times.

People are deceived if they believe everyone goes to heaven regardless of how much sick and vile evil they commit against God, like Hitler mass murdering people. Jesus already said most people will go to hell. Just read the gospels and his many parables. They are all similar themes- warning after warning.

Jesus died for everyone, but forgiveness is contingent upon someone humbling themselves, repenting, confessing, believing, declaring Jesus is Lord and accepting the gift. Acts 2:38 - this requires an action. It doesn't say 'Do nothing and ye shall receive the gift' or 'Keep sinning as much as you want...' Here's another action requirement: repentance: Luke 5:32. Here's another confessing: 1 John 1:9.

Romans 10:9 - notice the "If..." People don't say "if" unless it's conditional. Salvation is conditional.

This says to believe: 1 John 5:13. It doesn't say 'not believing is totally fine.' Romans 12:2 - this says to be transformed and to not conform to the world. That's a big bummer for those hoping for a free get out of hell free card to enjoy a lifetime of sin and guilty pleasures. Look at this: John 8:11 and even this: James 2:26. Another: James 4:6. Reading the Bible for what it is paints a very different picture than the little summaries people like to spread around. People who ignore all the Bible's teachings and do whatever they want should be afraid for their soul: Luke 12:5. God bless.

1 John 5:7-8, in context: 1 John 5:1-12, Romans 12:3-6, Ephesians 4:4-5, John 17:9-23, 1 Corinthians 12:12-14, Ephesians 1:8-11,

John 1:1-5, John 10:14-17, John 10:28-30,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study for truth & understanding.

Good, you're at the right site. Start reading the WORD written inside by clicking the Books, I like Luke when I started that was great to show me as new study who Christ Jesus was, is & is to come. Hover over the scripture here, should bring you straight to it.

Luke 1:1-4, you can continue to read by clicking read full chapter the scroll down, click tab on edges to next chapter, etc. Many people enjoy Psalms, I didn't enjoy it as much as a new beginner study but do enjoy it much more now after years of study.

Psalms 1:1-3,

U may enjoy Exodus, which actually begins in Genesis 37:1-36, continues : Genesis 39:1-23, Genesis 40:1-23, Genesis 41:1-57, Genesis 42:1-38, Genesis 43:1-34, Genesis 44:1-34,

[Note this scripture chapter 44, Genesis, if you noticed we skipped Genesis 38, because it jumps from Joseph to Judah. Now if you read Genesis 38:1-30, you can understand a few things on deeper level = Judah maybe knows painful loss of children at this point in his life & even the difference of love towards children of his "loved wife". Next very importance of Judah's sacrifice for others, resemblance of Jesus sacrifice being beloved Son of GOD. John 3:16, ]also interesting Tamar, bore to Judah the son in Jesus documented lineage Matthew 1:1-3]

Back to story : Genesis 45:1-28, (forgiveness), Genesis 46:1-34, Genesis 47:1-12 (Redemption) Genesis 47:27-31,

Now note: Genesis 47:13-26 , Genesis 12:1-3, Genesis 12:10, Genesis 12:11-16, * Genesis 12:13-20, Genesis 16:3, Genesis 16:6-11, Genesis 15:13-14, Genesis 21:8-21, my own opinion Deuteronomy 32:35-36, Romans 12:19.

These moments in Genesis leading up to how & why Israel came into bondage. Exodus 1:1-8, continue reading Exodus 1:22, please continue to read all of Exodus.

One more encouraging note :) Hebrews 11:22, Psalms 105:1-45,

Furthermore on this site under the 1611 Version tab you can scroll to see more history on the Bible.

Hopefully these inspire a new lifetime desire of deeper study

Dear precious friend, assuming you are right, AND we are "NOT to be 'Conformed' to the world Romans 12:2, let's ask A Very Important about Confused christendom's 'mode' of water BY IMMERSION.

All young and Middle-Aged women who are Christians, please advise, IF this is OK/Approved

Unto God:

How is "immersion of God's Precious WOMEN" as a rite/ritual/'Condemned' By CHRIST 'Tradition' Any DIFFERENT than a "WET t-shirt Contest" at the local UNgodly liquor establishment???

Of Course, there are Many MORE questions about This Important Doctrine of God, but I digress for now...

Good day...

Satan who deceives the WHOLE WORLD

EVERYONE starts out as a god of this world, were are being CREATED a NEW MAN, a god of the WORLD TO COME.

The god of this world (Satan). We start out as the children of Satan ( John 8:44):

We END as children of GOD

We begin as the image of the beast (Satan)( Revelation 13:14-15)

We END the image of God

2 Corinthians 11:14 An no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

2 Corinthians 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers (gods of THIS WORLD) also be transformed TO MINISTERS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS (gods of the WORLD TO COME)......

Romans 12:2 And be ye not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed be THE RENEWING OF YOUR MIND ...

Sis That gets back to rightly divided doctrine, and No private interpretation which has been handed down through the ages. I do what I do because it works not because its a nice head trip, Jesus Christ walked and talked in the realm of the miraculous, we can too which I KNOW most people don't believe but that's not my problem, that's what my God through his Son paid for in full. Because of His Sacrifice and resurrection we can Hebrews 4:16, Romans 12:2, Ephesians 5:1+2,

Ephesians 1:19, John 10:10, 2 Timothy 1:7, 1 John 3:22, there are over 400 of these called promises to us who believe.

I've learned by walking out and doing that is believing, I never received nothing until I read listened and Acted which by the way is why its called the book of Acts, they believed and moved.

Hi Timothy. Here are some Scriptures for you to consider:

1 Corinthians 6:12; Titus 2:11,12; 1 Peter 5:8,9; James 1:12-15; James 4:7,8; 1 Peter 2:11; Romans 13:12-14; Romans 12:1,2.

All these Scriptures show how a Christian can live above the sinful cravings of the heart & mind - when we know that we need help & that help is beyond any power we can muster up, then we must cry to the Lord our God, submit fully to Him & daily trust Him to deliver us of anything that opposes godliness.

I had a few addictions to surrender to the Lord when I was saved by His Spirit; some things left off immediately, others took a little longer. But remember "it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure." Philippians 2:13. God will by His Spirit help an earnest repentant soul. If He is in the business of pulling out wayward souls from the coming fires of Hell through His Son's Sacrifice, He will certainly not forget a struggling child who is still ensnared by the wicked one.

Our strength to resolve our issues very quickly diminishes - God's great Power to deliver & heal awaits all who look only to Him & submit to His Will. And when temptation knocks at our door, we are reminded in 1 Corinthians 10:13, "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." But the part of that verse that tests our genuineness, is whether we see, acknowledge & use the door of escape that God provides for us. When that sin or addiction becomes something most hateful in us, we're on the road to physical, mental & spiritual recovery.

Hi Jessie Hill Something I keep in mind the spirit in us is perfect we do not sin walking by the spirit but the flesh is weak and the mind is in the category of the flesh, therefore the battle is in the mind putting on the mind of christ to control the flesh to walk by the spirit. Committing sin is not just having a thought it is the carrying out in action of the thought. Now if you dwell or constantly think of negative stuff its just a matter of time before an individual carries out what there dwelling on because eventually they will believe it in there heart. Proverbs Guard thy heart with all diligence for out of it are the issues of life. Whether its positive or negative anything an individual dwells on or thinks about enough they will eventually become or do. Guard your mind Romans 12:2, Ephesians 4:23-32, Philippians 4:8, Colossians 3:1-14 2 Corinthians 10:5. Prayerfully this helps.

Part II

2 Corinthians 1:9-10

"...God Which raiseth the dead: Who Delivered us from so great a death, and Doth Deliver: in Whom we trust that He Will Yet Deliver us"

2) God's Eternal Salvation in The Present Tense:

The believer Should do 'good works' for which we 'are created In Christ Jesus' Ephesians 2:10

Note that 'these works' will Never Be Equal to the Total Payment That Christ Made For 'the Penalty of sin,' for which "He Already Delivered" us in the past tense of 2 Corinthians 1:10

These good works are for submission To Him, so that 'He Doth Deliver' us from 'the Power of sin,' present tense of 2 Corinthians 1:10

We "work out Our Own salvation" which Should Be a lifetime of Deliverance From the Power of sin! Our personal {set our-'Self' apart} sanctification:

2A)

"Access The GRACE, Wherein ye stand!..." Romans 5:2

1) "Die Daily" by submission, according to Paul's exhortation:

"I beseech you therefore, brethren, By the Mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice..." Romans 12:1-2 cp 1 Corinthians 15:31

2)

"Walk In The Spirit!" Romans 8:1,4 Galatians 5:16,25

"And walk in love, as Christ Also Hath Loved us, and Hath Given HIMSELF For us An Offering and A Sacrifice To God for a sweet-smelling savour." Ephesians 5:2

2b)

Fulfil, by faith, ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE thy neighbor as thyself!" Galatians 5:6 Galatians 5:14 Romans 13:8-10

2c)

Study HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to show thyself Approved Unto God! 2 Timothy 2:15 Eternal Results:

reward, or loss thereof 1 Corinthians 3:6-15, ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will Finally Be At The Judgment Day:

3) God's Eternal Salvation in The Future Tense:

CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body! This Is ETERNAL DELIVERANCE From the Presence of sin! 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 1 Corinthians 15:51-57



Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

2 Timothy 2:15 Romans 16:25 Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship Romans - Philemon

Romans 12:1-21, John 6:37, are you looking for a place of fellowship? Are you looking for scriptures to learn about giving HIM your life? You are welcome with us fellow believers.

Ask God to help you make a comprehensive list of your sins.

Confess every sin that the Holy Spirit calls to your remembrance and accept God's forgiveness ( 1 John 1:9).

Seek forgiveness from all whom you have offended, and forgive all who have hurt you ( Mark 11:25; Luke 11:4; 17:3,4).

Make restitution as the Holy Spirit leads you.

Ask God to fill you with His Holy Spirit according to His command in Ephesians 5:18 and His promise in 1 John 5:14,15.

Surrender your life fully to Jesus Christ as your Lord and Master; refuse to obey your worldly nature ( Romans 12:1,2).

Meditate on the attributes of God, His love, sovereignty, power, wisdom, faithfulness, grace, compassion, and others ( Psalm 48:9,10; 103:1-8, 11-13).

Begin your time of fasting and prayer with an expectant heart ( Hebrews 11:6).

Do not underestimate spiritual opposition. Satan sometimes intensifies the natural battle between body and spirit ( Galatians 5:16,17).

If you're married with kids, you'll still need to care for them. Attend to your duties, then excuse yourself back to your "closet".

I fast from food and ALL MEDIA. The idea is fast from food, AND feast on the Word of God. Ask the Holy Spirit to shield you from interruptions, like phone calls, people who drop in unannounced or uninvited.

Have on hand, bouillon, fruit juice, lots of water. Jesus hungered after his fast. (he drank water.)

If you are diabetic or on serious meds, check your blood sugar if you feel bad. Dehydration will stop a fast.

Read the Gospels. Spend time in praise and worship. You can do this at work with headphones on. Whatever you do; no long faces. Bathe and dress normal.

Write Eph. 6 on a piece of paper and keep it before you. Don't tell anyone you're on fast. Just your husband. Satan will try to make you mad, feel unspiritual. Jesus used SCRIPTURE to counter attack satans attacks.

It's good to read aloud. We have gates: ears, eyes, mouth, a heart of joy. The Word goes in through all gates.

2 Corinthians 2:7, should read 2 Corinthians 5:17. Apologies, don't know what happened there.