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Revelation 13:16-18

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16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

The mark is something a person has to receive either on their forehead or hand in order to buy or sell during the end times.

In order to receive the mark, a person has to first worship the antichrist. You cannot receive the mark without worshiping him.

Receiving the mark forfeits any hope of salvation.

What specifically is the"Mark of the beast"

The last 2 trumpets are indirectly attributed to Jesus; they couple punishment with extreme violence. Of course the people on earth will be playing the attacks out to its desired outcome. Jesus in the flesh was void of sin, but trumpeted Jesus takes care of business.

1) There is the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord (named for Jesus), is punishment on a vile world from the Almighty. A day responsible for 1/3rd of humanities demise. Revelation 15: Jesus says "Behold, I come as a thief".......to lay the land desolate.

Those that dwell in heaven despise Mystery Babylon and Babylon proper to death. Joel gives a spectacular account of the missile strike on Babylon (America) Joel 2: 1-11, while on the other side of the world, in the self-same hour, Israel is invaded by the beast army and taken, Luke 21:20-24. Hell from beneath will rise up to greet Babylon at its departure, Isaiah 14:9 The current system will be torn down, and will be replaced with hell on earth.

2) Then there is the 7th trumpet slaughter featuring a transfigured Jesus, with a new name only He knows, Revelation 19:12, who defeats anti-christ's fractured beast army. It is Jesus returning with His army of resurrected saints to take possession of the earth. Revelation 14:20 The blood will be up to the horses bridle (in the valley).

In both trumpets, it is Jesus doling out judgment on an evil world, and in His Godly capacity. America and Israel have been poisoned by satan, enough so for God to commence and fulfill all the words of his servants, the prophets.

I literally believe what is written in the Book of Revelation. To put a 2021 spin on it, is misleading to people. There's much to read in chapters 13-16. God gives a blessing every time a person reads Revelation.

Revelation 19:20

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, AND THEM that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 13:17

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Revelation 14:9

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Revelation 14:11

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 16:2

And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

Revelation 20:4

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Mishael: I asked the Holy Spirit if people can ACCIDENTALLY get the Mark of the Beast? He said NO. People will get it willingly, in order to eat, live & take care of their families.

The Marked person has no more chance to recant and be saved. Chopping off the hand will not remove the death sentence of getting the Mark.

This is now. Roman history is not helpful really.

Barbara, the Spirit is gracing you with HIS wisdom and His Understanding. What the Spirit is revealing to you about the armies described in Revelation 19:14 is correct, we are those armies. The armies described in Revelation are much different than the armies we know which are made up of men in their natural state.

1 Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that WAS NOT FIRST which is spiritual, but that which is NATURAL; and afterwards that which is SPIRITUAL.

1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown (at natural birth) a NATURAL body; it is raised (at Christ resurrection) a SPIRITUAL body (we are delivered into this body the moment we depart our natural body). There is a NATURAL body, and there is a SPIRITUAL body.

John 16:21 A woman (the church) when she is in travail hath sorrows (suffers in the flesh), because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she rememberth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.

There are many, many symbols that describe the called out: the elect, the saints, the anointed ones, the church, the temple, the house of God, the trees, the books, the rivers, the streams, the mountains, the house of Israel, the house of Jacob, the chosen, the called, the faithful, the horses, the chariots and many more. When the Spirit causes you to understand the symbols it becomes easier for the Spirit to reveal His truths.

Isaiah 9:5 For every (natural) battle of the (natural) warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this (spiritual battle) shall be with (spiritual) BURNING and FUEL of (spiritual) FIRE.

Isaiah 9:19 and the PEOPLE shall be the FUEL of the FIRE

Isaiah 4:3-6 (vs 4)When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion (another symbol of the called out) and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem (another symbol of the called out) from the midst thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT and by the SPIRIT OF BURNING.

This is what the armies (the ones gone before us) are doing.

In Revelation 22:11 I discern a definite reference to the closing of human probation upon the earth since the language spoken declares them forever after the character our Lord Jesus says they are. In chapters 15: verses 1, 7 and 8, then chapter 16, we have the time for the pouring out of God's wrath (without mixture according to Revelation 14:10). The reference of those who live in the very end of human probation will live through the time of trouble. while the holy righteous class have the promise of mercy and protection even from the holy cherubim (see Psalms 27 and 91) the rest who are unjust and filthy shall receive the full wrath of God and be slain afterwards by the brightness of our Lord's glorious appearing, when He comes to be glorified in His saints. Both 2 Thessalonians 1:6-8; 2:8; Revelation 19:21. These Scriptures help us also to understand how the Lord will be said to come as a thief in the night during the outpouring of His wrath. His wrath upon those who have been marked for wrath are in contrast to them that are sealed in their foreheads. I am saddened that many will be unprepared to meet Him in peace, either because the have failed to put off sins by repentance and faith in our Lord and Savior, Messiah Jesus. Also many will be lost because they have been given a delusional eschatology and told they will be removed before the time of God's wrath. Jesus is coming soon, may we all be ready.

My good brother Chris,

As you know we can all have different views on things of the Eternal realm or Heaven. My belief is there are animals in Heaven but of coarse the only ones who know for sure are not here, in earth, anymore.

One verse from the Bible that may point to this is Revelation 19:11. When our Lord comes down from Heaven riding on a white horse.

Of coarse not to dispute anything with you my brother. Just thought I would note that verse.

God Bless you Chris.

Rebecca, may the Spirit grace you with his understanding.

Most things in God's word have to be discerned by applying multiple scriptures and all applied against:

1 John 2:27 But the anointing (Holy Ghost in you) which ye have received (by grace) of him (Holy Ghost) abideth in you, and you NEED NOT THAT ANY MAN TEACH YOU; but as the same anointing (the Holy Ghost) teacheth you ALL things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it (the Holy Ghost) hath taught you, ye shall abide (become one) in him (the Holy Ghost).

Ephesians 4:21 If so be that ye have HEARD him (the Holy Ghost), and have been taught by him (the Holy Ghost), as the truth is in Jesus (THE WORD OF GOD).

Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by HEARING, and HEARING by the WORD OF GOD (studying, meditating).

The scriptures were written by men under the influence of the Holy Ghost.

Revelation 19:10 .... for the testimony (words) of Jesus (THE WORD) is the spirit of prophecy.

2 Peter 1:21 For prophecy came.....as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Now to your question, what does it mean to blaspheme the Holy Ghost. Since the WORD (truth) was written by the Holy Ghost, you blaspheme when you call his WORD a lie. Example:

1 Timothy 2:3-4 For this is GOOD AND ACCEPTABLE in the sight of God our Saviour; who WILL HAVE all men to be saved, and come to the KNOWLEDGE of the truth.

Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come, thy WILL BE DONE in earth, as it (HIS WILL) is in heaven.

1 Timothy 4:10-11 .....who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN, specially those that BELIEVE.

(vs) 11 These things COMMAND AND TEACH.

Psalm 22:27 ALL the ends of the world shall REMEMBER and TURN unto the LORD: and ALL KINDREDS OF THE NATIONS SHALL WORSHIP BEFORE THEE.

1 Corinthians 15:28 And when ALL THINGS shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him (Father) that put ALL THINGS under him (Son) that GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL.

WE all blaspheme on our journey to TRUTH just REPENT and TURN to the new found TRUTH.

When I pray, it is "Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus". There is one God. Not 3 persons. We must know our God & obey the gospel. "Hear 0 Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord". When the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God & that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Who will be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his power.

Hopeful, may the Spirit grace you with his (spiritual) knowledge and his (spiritual) wisdom.

John 6:63 ....... the words that I ( 1 Peter 1:11,the Spirit of Christ or 1 Peter 1:21,the Holy Ghost or 2 Samuel 23:1-2, the Spirit of the Lord or Revelation 19:10,the words of Jesus) speak unto you, they (words) are spirit, and they (words) are life.

The day of the Lord is prophecy about a spiritual day; but, a day in spiritual time is not necessarily a day in natural time ( 2 Peter 3:8).

Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterwards (after the day of the Lord), that I (Spirit) will will pour my spirit upon all flesh......

Since the Spirit (Holy Ghost) was poured out on all mankind at pentecost; therefore, the day of the Lord begin at pentecost and is continuing to this day 2000 years later in natural time; but, only one day in spiritual time.

Second witness:

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon (symbolic of Christ)..... Psalm 89:35-36 And it (the throne of Christ, from the proceeding verse) shall be established forever as the moon, and as a FAITHFUL WITNESS in heaven...... Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the FAITHFUL WITNESS.......into blood before the terrible (wonderful) day of the Lord (pentecost) come.

Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he (the Lamb) had opened the sixth seal, and lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth hair, and the moon (symbolic of Christ) became as blood.....

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.

Matthew 27:51 ........and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent.

John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there blood and water.

Revelation 8:1 And when he (the Lamb) had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half hour (spiritual time not natural time)

This time was the time between Christ resurrection and the day of the Lord (pentecost)

Daniel 12:11-12 45 days between vs 11 and 12

My dear friend, if you are posting questions so you can have a fight that is not good. Only dogs fight ( Revelation 22:15; Revelation 11:1-2). The word Elohim (God) is plural (Eloah being its singular) See: ( Genesis 1:2; Genesis 1:26; John 1:1; Isaiah 9:6; Deuteronomy 6:4). Your line of reasoning is the same as saying that while your mother and father are Williams, you are simply Kevin so you do not wear their title because you are only the son. There is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. Please read Revelation 19:11-16, Revelation 1, Ezekiel 1, John 1. Read also the apostle Paul to the Phillipians (Philipians 2:12).

However, I will not continue this... Matthew 13:41. May God bless you.

Thank you very much I will do that.

Hi Martha, you can look up J Vernon Mcgee commentary on Revelation 18 and 19, on blue letter bible or Thru the Bible site. he does a good job on it, hope that helps.

In this verse, who or what was the "great whore"?

Why in Deuteronomy chapter 22 is forbidden to wear garment of linen and wool?

17sharp, may the Spirit grace you with understanding, the reason I can justify adding the Holy Ghost in Zachariah 13:9 And I (the Holy Ghost) will bring the THIRD part through the fire is because:

II Peter 1:21 For the prophecy (like the words in Zachariah) came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. It wasn't Zachariah that was going to bring them (creation) through the fire; but the Holy Ghost.

Revelation 19:10 ........worship God: for the testimony (words) of Jesus is the (holy) spirit of prophecy.

I Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ (Holy Ghost) which was in them (prophets) did signify, when it (Holy Ghost) testified beforehand the suffering of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

II Samuel 23: 1-2 Now these be the last words of David, David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed (by the Holy Ghost) of God of Judah, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said,

(2) The spirit of the Lord (Holy Ghost) spake by me, and his (Holy Ghost) words were in my tongue.

When the Spirit causes you to understand that the words in the bible are the words of Spirit and not of man then the Spirit will start bringing you into spiritual understanding and start washing away worldly wisdom, which is foolishness to God.

May the Holy Ghost you with his wisdom.

What is the Dream that you saw?

Comments by Alex about my thoughts on the parable of the Sower and his precious seed. Jesus said know ye not this parable how then will you know all Parables, Understanding this parable has to come from God self ,Jesus said that many righteous men and prophets have desired to see what you see and hear what you hear but saw them NOT. Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. It ALL goes back to the great PROMISE OF MULTIPLICATION, THATS Y THE SOWER WILL GO FORTH TO SOW HIS PRECIOUS SEED, THAT HE MIGHT BE MULTIPLIED AS THE STARS OF HEAVEN IN US ( HUMANITY ) @ THE LAST DAY . The words of Wonder and the book that Daniel saw was SEALED till the last day. which is the book in the right hand of the Father that is sealed with 7 seals . God was so passionate about this GREAT PROMISE that he swore by his very self .There is no other PROMISE IN THE BIBLE where GOD swore by himself . Impling that he himself was gonna be multiplied as the stars of heaven. Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the WORD ( the seed of the Sower ) came it made them Gods, Thats what the H.G is the multiplication of God, and thats y Jesus refers to the H.G as the Promise he is the multiplication of Christ/GOD via that good seed the WORD of the Kingdom as Jesus said. Thus the essence of this parable is CHILD BIRTH A BABY CHRIST BORN IN US, Multiplication, Thats y Jesus said the GOOD SEED are the Children of the Kingdom.Jesus is gona multiply himself in us sinners That was the great PROMISE ( MULTIPLICATION ) Thus the need for a heavenly sower and his seed that results in a new heart and a new spirit, the NEW BIRTH which is a BABY Christ born in us that hear the word th seed of the sower th bridegroom. Thus an ISRAEL OF GOD BORN IS US VIA THE SEED OF CHRIST. Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth ME. the Kingdom has to come via a seed a birth when Isaiah saw the Kingdom coming he said unto US a child is born,unto us a Son is given,Thats the GOOD NEWS Christ is gona multiply himself in us .

Miss J, I had a similar experience, minus the dream of a burning house, of where the Lord clearly spoke to me whilst in morning prayer about forsaking all to serve Him. As background info, I attended a small Fellowship of vibrant believers & who even from a small congregation, had sent out around twenty souls to serve in overseas mission work. So the challenge was ever before us from the pulpit: "what are you still doing sitting here - be up & moving out to serve!"

So, this then became a matter for much prayer. I was already engaged in open-air ministry in the city centre (styled around the work of Open Air Campaigners), doing tract distribution in my neighbourhood, & giving Bible studies. But in all this, the Lord had been quiet about overseas service. It was only after the Lord took home my Dad in 1985, that the word came to me very clearly in prayer at the end of 1987 about serving overseas & to do so with a particular Mission. I knew this was of the Lord, as he undertook for me in every way to achieve His Plan. He even sold my home for me in a few days, without me even mentioning it to anyone that I wanted to put it on the market!

Why I relate all this to you, is that the Lord knows your heart & your desire to serve Him. His child can do no better than to aspire to such a high calling: service to the King of kings. What are the ways you employ now to serve the Lord? Remember, often when those already labouring for Him are those whom He calls specifically. Where lies your interests? For some, the great ministry of prayer is their passion - others to be found serving even to the point of laying down their lives for the Gospel. I read that you sense that this could be a 'global' ministry for you. Keep on praying about the matter, speak to overseas Missions about their work & opportunities to serve. Though age may be against you, your spirit & willingness is very apparent. Have your heart & mind constantly trained on this path - God will direct you for sure.

Praise God Brethren,

Yes, I looked into the story of Moses to see how God called him to serve (he was simply living his normal life). I have been looking for a door to serve God and I don't know how to start. In 2005 God told me in a dream that IHe will cleanse, purify and uplift me and I will be His servant globally. He confirmed the dream in real life ( I asked Him to tell me in simple language if it was Him who spoke to me in a dream, and part of what I saw in that dream happened next day morning after asking. In that dream after God spoke, I saw smoke in a neighbours house and when I turned inside to rescue my belongings the smoke cleared. So, it happened in real life, I was called early morning a neighbours house burning (I saw that heavy smoke), I sent a sister I was staying with to go help while I went back in the house to turn off power. But 2 minutes she came back saying they managed to put down the fire. So I knew, It was Him who spoke to me.

Then a few years ago Jesus stood in the sky (in another dream that was like real), threw something like a small pen/cross glittering to me and when it entered me it was that, He has sent me to serve Him globally.

My question is, when will that be? How will I start as I am still looking for that door. I am now 53.

Be blessed.

To believe that the Rapture is false, would mean disregarding or reinterpreting a lot of Scripture that points to such an event. And those Scriptures don't fit nicely into a belief that Jesus is coming to rule in Jerusalem without something occurring first to both the living & dead believers. The differing viewpoints that arise as to when the Rapture occurs in connection with the Great Tribulation, causes the variation of interpretations of the Scriptures.

Your Father's teaching is what we would refer to as a belief in a 'mid-Tribulation Rapture'. That is, that the Great Tribulation begins at the revelation of Anti-Christ & Christians suffer under his regime, but will be removed mid-way before God pours out His Anger upon the whole world.

Others also believe that the Great Tribulation begins at the advent of the Anti-Christ & so we will either see him briefly, or not at all, before being taken away (pre-Tribulation Rapture). And then, of course, still others hold to the fact that we all (saved & unsaved) go right through the whole Tribulation period of 7 years: (Post-Tribulation Rapture).

For this, we must appeal to 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4. "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition." (vv2,3).

The Thessalonian Christians were fearful that the Great Tribulation was already upon them & they missed out on being raptured. So Paul comforted them by saying the 'Day of Christ (Lord)' would not come until there was first a 'falling away' from the Church & the revelation of the Anti-Christ. This should lead us to believe that Christians might be around to see Anti-Christ appear on the scene but will be raptured some time afterwards. We're not told when, whether there will a time where we will need to decide to take the Mark or not, or even suffer for it. That day & time is known only to the Lord, but we must be ready, waiting & watching. So, I would be too dogmatic to suggest that your Dad is wrong in holding to a mid-trib position, though I would tend to hold to a pre-trib position, based on my understanding of Scripture & removal of the Holy Spirit (v 7) & the Church and that God is always seen to remove His own before His Judgement falls on the unbeliever.

The rapture is false altogether.Christ is returning to Earth to set up his eternal kingdom.it is written in the Psalms that God has chosen Mount Zion on his favorite place where he will dwell forever.

You mean 3 1/2 years of tribulations, meaning raptured in the middle of 70th week, i dont think you will find that.

I have a question. My father was a minister and always taught us that we would go through 3 1/2 years of the rapture then be raptured into Heaven. I have searched the Bible for this but cannot find it anywhere. Was that teaching false or did I misunderstand the teaching?

Hosea 3:5, "Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days."

From the account you read in this chapter, Hosea was to demonstrate very vividly, through having an unfaithful wife, Gomer, God's displeasure with Israel, yet His longing that they would be brought back to Him. When Hosea had to repurchase her, she was to be kept in seclusion (depicting the state of Israel, then & now, when she would have no one to rule, nor would God be present through the ephod & teraphim). Israel may have a Prime Minister & a lawful government now, but there has never been nor will be a human King to rule over her since the days of the kings of Israel & Judah.

But the day will come (in the future) when Israel will begin to truly seek the Lord & yearn for "David their King". So the reference to David cannot be to King David who had long been passed away, but to the Son of David, Jesus Christ, Who would at long last be recognized as Israel's King & Messiah. That's why, when Jesus comes back, He comes with His Title, "King of kings & Lord of lords" on His Vesture & Thigh ( Revelation 19:16). And He comes to rule, in the Davidic line, in Jerusalem & His Rule will be a righteous rule unlike any king before Him & without end.

The first line of the Bible states that heaven is created along with the creation of the earth ( Genesis 1). It is primarily God's dwelling place in the biblical tradition: a parallel realm where everything operates according to God's will.

In Genesis 1, much is written about heaven, firmament, dividing, etc. all those center of the page columns (abc notes) refer to other scriptures. You'll need a study Bible with that feature. Or...

You can go on Google and type in: charts of 3 heavens. NOT all of them are accurate according to scripture.

God is Spirit. He doesn't need to stand on something. The Holy Spirit is Spirit; same thing. In Genesis, Jesus's name is the Word.

See John 1:1-5

Philippians 2:8-10, 6 and 3:19

Revelation 19:13

Zechariah 13:7

Isaiah 9:6

All those scriptures may have reference notes to additional scriptures. You need a reference study Bible, to research deeply.

It takes determination to search out the mysteries of God.

Always ask the Holy Spirit to HELP you and TEACH you those mysteries. He's the Spirit of Christ; and a born again Christian has the Mind of Christ. You have everything you need when combined with Faith: faith that the Holy Spirit does what scripture says that He does. Pursue Him.

Mishael

All we are told in Revelation chapter 19, is that a voice spoke from the (midst) of God's Throne (verse 5). This was not God's Voice nor His Son's, but apparently an angel assigned in regards to the Holiness of God. Elsewhere, as in the Ark of the Covenant, two images of Cherubs were positioned on either side of the Ark. So, it could be assumed that a Cherub or angel from God's Throne spoke to John. Also, we see in Revelation 22:8,9, a similar event, where John began to fall down before the "angel" but was forbidden to do so.

As to Revelation 19:16, there can be no certainty as to where & why this inscription was placed there. A reasonable explanation could be that as the Lord Jesus, the Lord of Glory is seen coming as a horseman, outfitted for battle, his outer clothing (vesture) may have been an extended, fairly heavy tunic that was normally worn. This vesture had His Name inscribed on it & it was written on the tunic at about thigh level. It was common for notable persons (kings, warriors, etc.) from olden days to have their titles inscribed on their clothing & this might be seen of the coming Warrior King in the skies. But all this is only a supposition.

In Revelation 19:10 Who is talking when it says, "See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren, etc.?

In Revelation 19:16 Why were the words "King of Kings, And Lord of Lords" written on Jesus' thigh and not on a

more obvious part of his body?