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The Gospel: Pure and uncompromised

Matthew 12:34 states that "out of the abundance of the heart; the mouth speaketh." Isaiah 8:20 speaking about those who are false Prophets says "to the word and the testimony". They are said if not to speak the truth to have "no light of the dawn". Contrast this with Revelation 12:11 where the word of their testimony of the Tribulation martyrs indicates that they "loved not their lives unto the death." With today's churches having doctrines as skewed as they are we aren't safe to assume that occultic demonic "doctrines of demons" haven't already infected many congregations as 1 Timothy 4:1 warns. But for the remainder of this discussion I will assume that at least a respectable version of the scriptures is being preached in the churches I am examining here.

The Lord stated how "a little leaven ruins the whole loaf". ( Galatians 5:9 and other verses). No one is going to offer arsenic with a little inert ingredient to temper the flavor as an appetizer; but if being devious will put a little poison in something that is tasty. Satan won't come along saying that he is a deceiver; liar and murdurer and by the way wouldn't you like to join my cause? Admittedly there are a few who are sadistic enough to play the fiddle with the Devil as it were with some fantasy that they are so vile that they can command the Devil what to do; and there are some who despite knowing his nature think that Satan won't grind them into powder as was requested by Satan to Christ in the case of Peter.

The greatest danger; therefore lies when sin enters within the tent; the congregation of meeting and scripture is mixed in to instill false confidence in one's spiritual standing; or twisted to justify what eventually becomes a festering cancer after initially being toyed with by a few in idle conversation. There is also the ever present danger of trying to justify a doctrine; either true or false by turning literal scriptures to figurative.

Job 12:16, Revelation 12:10, James 1:5-7,

Wise men; Matthew 2,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study

Part 3

As promised here is my explanation. Our minds are developing through our 20s when we finally become "adults". We can thankfully be freed from ingrained sin; but there are lasting scars and weaknesses that we are vulnerable to. The enemy always falls short in his promises. There are few who gain great strides in wealth and status in this world from Satan's aid; but at best they are never totally fulfilled; and in the end there is always a price to pay. Once we begin to understand the control that Satan has over this whole world system and how we are; apart from Christ totally helpless and hellbound then we are prepared for the victory we can have through Christ when He calls and chooses us out of the world for His Name's sake. We can then give a "Word of testimony" ( Revelation 12:11). This comes to its ultimate fulfillment for the countless multitude massacred during the Great Tribulation. But it starts now; as one cannot help but share how they are set free from the bondage of sin; into the glorious kingdom of God. ( Romans 8:2).

With this background then; I will state that more specifically there are some who are able to more readily discern what is going on in the spiritual realm if they are gifted in discernment. They are called to minister in the Body as well as others with different giftings are to do the same thing. Being given this gift myself; I really don't have much of an idea HOW this can be done or where it is being practiced. The true Word of God isn't usually something people in this age want to hear; and that of course fits into any spiritual truths. There are truly those who you can see are under demonic influence or else are particularly blessed. As with anyone ministering to others we need to make sure that it is God speaking to us; and we need to repent quickly of sins so the enemy doesn't have legal grounds to affect our minds and deceive us. Our soul and spiritual entities interact together so we must view both

It's Israel, because the twelve stars represent 12 tribes. See Genesis 12:9: "And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.". The church does not have 12 stars, but SEVEN: "The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches." ( Revelation 1:20). And as for Mary, she does not represent all twelve stars, save in the fact that she's an Israelite.

Hey Sammi,

This is my understanding; Satan is our accuser, and he still accuses us before God. We see in Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 Satan came along with the sons of God/angels to present themselves to God. I understand that would be in heaven.

We are told to put on the whole armor of God in Ephesians 6:11-12 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. The Greek word for high places is epouranios, heavenly realm.

In Revelation 12:7-8 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. The words "neither was their place found in heaven" tells me they still have access to heaven until they are cast out, down to earth.

Verse 10:12 shows Satan accused the brethren before our God day and night it was by the blood of Christ, they cast him out and he only has a short time. My understanding this starts the tribulation when Satan gives his seat, power, and authority to the beast Rev. 13.

So, my understanding is Satan still has access, I am sure it is limited but until they are cast out permanently that will be in the future. If you understand another way that is ok.

God bless,

RLW

Alex,

I'm going to shift your post a little and see if this interests you. Speaking of Revelation 12, specifically Revelation 12:6 & Revelation 12:14: The woman represents the 144,000 sealed saints ( Revelation 7:4), BOTH are protected for a thousand two hundred and threescore days. Only the saints are officially sealed. It is a continued allegory describing the saints vs the man of sin, end-times, etc.

The saints are so unbelievably important, yet underrated. They are the first fruits, set apart from the 5.5 billion day of the Lord survivors. The saints are the ONLY first resurrection participants, tasked with healing people, the earth and administering to Christ. The rest sleep till called at the second resurrection.

The saints are featured in 7 Chapters of Revelation, hidden in allegory, and referred to. People then add characters to the narrative and always miss that the sealed saints in Revelation 7:4, before the sixth trumpet, are the same saints in heaven at the seventh trumpet, Revelation 7:9-14. "They came out of the great tribulation". AND this occurs at the exact same time God calls up the two witnesses, Revelation 11:12. The saints and the two witnesses are one and the same!!! You will not see the saints without the witnesses from BOTH houses of Israel (Israel & Judah). Don't get the "two men" allegory wrong. Forget about Moses and Elijah or Enoch, that is a tired excuse for filling in the answer with anything that will suffice. After Solomon, Israel was split in two nations, hence, two men. The two candlesticks and two olive trees that stand before God are God's pride and joy, the whole house of Israel.

Okay. I understand what you mean but why did Christ Himself say this;

Matthew 5:19

In Revelation 12:17, we see that the dragon went to make war with the woman's seed (metaphorically Israel) and they keep The Commandments.

Furthermore, in 1 John 2:3-4, John states that only those who keep God's Commandments actually know Him. The Law is still in effect. If not, how do people differentiate between right and wrong ?

(To all that read repent and seek the lord )

Today in the world we have people calling themselves Christians but are not believers and this are people who go to church get 3 hours of worship (entertainment) and 1hour of which half is announcement the the other half is how God love you

when they get home they don't open their bible and any free time they have they spend wasting on tv and phone social medial, prayers are hard to make before the living God

and so they are living on Crumbs and depending on the pastors to help with bible the Living word )

So Saturn is not afraid of uncommitted Christian But one who does not love his life unto the End

That's what Jesus is saying In Matthew

Revelation 12:11

And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

A quote from Mathew Henry - commentary on this website: "The church, under the emblem of a woman, the mother of believers, was seen by the apostle in vision, in heaven." ..... "A dragon is a known emblem of Satan, and his chief agents, or those who govern for him on earth.."

Well Stated Ronald

I believe the woman is Israel.

Revelation 12:1 description is the same description of Israel in Genesis 37.

Revelation12:1. "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the SUN, and the MOON under her feet, and upon her head a crown of TWELVE STARS:"

Genesis 37:9-10.

"And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the SUN and the MOON and the ELEVEN STARS made obeisance to me.

( Verse 10 Jacob interpret the dream for us.)

Vs 10. "And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?"

God bless.

Good afternoon Ronald. It has been five months since my surgery and my foot pain has greatly improved. There is still a few quirks in my foot anatomy that need to be evaluated, so I will be going back to the podiatrist soon.

We have enjoyed the good weather we have had this past spring and summer. We know that the NW fall winter gray and rain will soon be here.

I hope that you are doing well.

Hey GiGi,

Thank you for thinking of me. I too wonder about the well-being of Mishael and others, may they be well. Hope you and your family are well and your walking has improved.

God bless,

RLW

Janet:

The woman is all creation, whether you be male or female, we are all the woman, destined to be the bride of Christ, and be made one with him.

1 Timothy 2:13 For Adam (Christ) was first formed, then Eve (woman, whether you are male are female).

1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman (all creation) being deceived was in the transgression.

1 Timothy 2:14 Notwithstanding she (creation, the woman) shall BE SAVED IN CHILDBEARING .....

Revelation is signified (most nouns have a meaning that is different than what a dictionary would define them) heaven is symbolic of mankind, where God dwells, IN YOU.

Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven (in Janet), a woman (Janet) clothed with the sun (the Spirit of the Father), and the moon (Christ) under her (Janet's) feet, and upon her (Janet's) head a crown of twelve stars (angels, ministering spirits).

Revelation 12:2 And she (Janet) being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pain to be delivered.

Revelation 12:5 And she (Janet) brought forth a man child .....

Galatians 4:19 ....I travail in birth, till Christ be formed in you ....

Revelation 2:26 An he that overcometh (deception), and keepeth MY WORKS (Christ is the life in Janet, the man child Janet birthed) until the end, to him (to Janet the body of Christ) will I (Christ in Janet) give power over the nations,

Revelation 2:27 And he (Janet, the body of Christ) sall rule them with a rod of iron .....even as I received of my Father.

God Bless YOU, Christ's body.

Good evening Ronald.

Haven't heard from you for awhile. Thank you for a good analysis of this scenario in Revelations.

Hey Janet Stemm,

My understanding, study for yours.

Different opinions on who the woman is that is clothed with the sun, the moon under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars. Some say the Church, some say Israel, some say Mary. In verse 3 another wonder, a great red dragon that drew a third part of the stars and cast them to earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman ready to devour her child.

Both of these wonders appeared in heaven. The word wonders Greek- semeion, means something extraordinary, or miraculous, mostly translated sign. Sign with a meaning of divine power or purpose made known. Sometimes the word is used to denote a sign of future things.

We know the dragon is Satan because scripture says so and most would agree the man child is Jesus the one who will rule all nations with a rod of iron, Psalms 2:9, Revelation 2:27, 12:5, and 19:15. The scripture is clear this starts before Jesus was born, the dragon was going to devour the child as soon as it was born. We see this effort of Satan when king Herod ordered not only the killing of all the children in Bethlehem but on all the coasts, from two years old and under.

The woman flees to a wilderness prepared by God to be there for 1260 days. This is after the ascension of Jesus, not just after, but in the future. For the Church as being the woman, when the dragon was standing in front of her, Jesus was not yet born, the Church was formed after he was born, the Church did not birth Jesus.

The woman cannot be Mary, even though she was the mother of Jesus, we are not of the seed of Mary as we see in verse 17, "the remnant of her seed". So, this leaves the third choice, which is Israel. If we look back in Genesis, we see a pretty good picture of this woman, Genesis 37:9-10.

Chapter 12 covers the time from before our Lord's birth and ascension to the throne, up to the casting out of heaven of Satan and the fallen angels permanently, Rev.12:8-9, to the start of the Great Tribulation.

God bless,

RLW

If Revelations is a book of PROPHECY and Jesus is telling John what to write, why would the woman be Mary having Jesus? Makes more sense to be the church.

Brother Anthony:

We are all coming to the truth of God's word, God's doing and God's timetable.

Matthew 24

Christ is talking to his disciples about his coming again to them and the tribulation that must occur first, they didn't understand and most today don't understand.

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, this generation (those to whom he was speaking) shall not pass, till all the things BE FULFILLED.

Revelation explains this, if you take it as the Revelation of Jesus Christ, and not something in the future, the generation living at the time of Christ saw the wrath of God that was poured out on Christ and they saw Christ appearing the second time as the Holy Ghost.

We have been in the days of Noah since that great tribulation was poured out on Christ, and his coming the second time as the Holy Ghost.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.

Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth .......

Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, the was a great earthquake: and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon (Christ) became as blood;

Revelation 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell to earth .....

Luke 23:44 And it was about the sixth hour and there was darkness over the whole earth until the ninth hour,

Luke 23:45 And the sun was darkened ......

Matthew 27:54 .....saw the earthquake .......

Revelation 15:8 ....and no man was able to enter into the temple (you are the temple), till the seven plaques of the seven angels be fulfilled.

God Bless you.

Brother Anthony:

There is not two separate revelations in Revelation, it's one revelation, the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ .......

Revelation is not addressed to the seven churches, but to the angel of the seven churches.

Revelation 2:1 Unto the ANGEL of the church at Ephesus write ....

Revelation 2:8 Unto the ANGEL of the church at Smyrna write .....

Revelation 2:12 Unto the ANGEL of the church at Pergamos write ......

Revelation 2:18 Unto the ANGEL of the church at Thyatira write ....

Revelation 3:1 Unto the ANGEL of the church at Sardis write ......

Revelation 3:7 Unto the ANGEL of the church at Philadelphia write .....

Revelation 3:14 Unto the ANGEL of the church at Laodiceans write .....

Mark !3:24 But in those days (the wrath of God that was poured out on Christ), after the tribulation (that wrath of God, poured out on Christ) , the sun shall be darkened, and the moon (symbolic of Christ) shall not give her light,

Mark 13:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall .....

Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew a third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth .....

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness (the sun was darkened) over all the earth unto the ninth hour.

And the moon (symbolic of Christ) turned to blood, and covered the sins of creation.

God Bless you in the quest for TRUTH ( John 14:6 ...I AM TRUTH....I AM LIFE)

Testify! If God has answered prayer in your life I encourage you to let somebody know! If He has saved you, healed you, or helped you

We are made overcomers by the Blood of the Lamb AND our testimony. And we did not love our lives to the death.

Revelation 12:10-11

Revelation 12:9-17, John 12:20-32,

Why do you ask? James 4:7,

Hopefully these are helpful

Revelation 15

This chapter marks what appears to be the Resurrection of the saints of God from the Tribulation which is immediately before the bowl judgments. In that sense surely God's people won't endure the final plagues. This is accentuated by the comment in verse 8; that no man could enter the temple in heaven until the final plagues occurred. There was no more "smoke of the incense of the prayers" mitigating things; and judgment was to be full force.

It is interesting in verse 5 that the "temple of the tabernacle of the testimony" is mentioned. Certainly; those who gave the testimony to overcome reminds us of Revelation 12:11. We must remember that overcoming any of these things; whether it is the image of the beast (which somehow causes people to be killed ( Rev. 13:15); the mark of the beast and the associated number of his name all takes supernatural strength. Again; we need to remember that ALL whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from before the foundation of the world will worship the Beast ( Rev. 13:8). This shows the destinies of men from before all time were all predestined as WELL as showing Christ was the sacrificial atonement for that group of people ALSO before time began. By default; this means not only are we all sinners and rebels but that literally we would worship Antichrist if he appeared today; and in our hearts Satan is our father ( John 8:44).

These harsh realities are the only rational approach to show how far sin has damaged this nation and the earth as a whole. Today; much of what involves the lust of the eyes ( 1 John 2:15-17) is virtual reality; minds are controlled with substances (Pharmakeia Rev. 18:23) and people desperately want assurance that life can continue and the party can go on. The danger is when the Lord Himself gives up people to sin ( Romans 1:24). Truly; Isaiah 24:17 describes the fear; pit and snare upon the inhabitants of the earth after He raptures the Bride.

It's not really fair to judge someone based on the definition of a name given before or at time of birth, before the person defines who they, themselves are by their life, actions, achievements etc. 1Chronicles 4:9-10, Genesis 10:25, Genesis 35:18, Neither is it Justice to define anyone by a name because someone has the same name. Please read these scriptures: 1Samuel 2:3, Genesis 25:25,26, Genesis 29:32, yet not exactly true, because Genesis 29:33, contadicts the previous name. Following Genesis 29:34,35,

Sometimes people live up to names given, is it because they've been called so? Genesis 27:36,

However sometimes a name is earned: Genesis 25:30, Genesis 30:13, Revelation 11:8, Revelation 12:9, Revelation 19:13, Revelation 17:14

Many times people in the Bible share name, yet are completely different. Especially 1611 KJV, on this site. Examples today many people have name like Jesus pronunciation different are not even close, or Angels names, that are far from. We should be careful to not be deceived even evil can appear as light, likewise many names have been made to deceive. 2Corinthians 11:13,14

There are divine names given by GOD however, those maybe we should take more notice of, :

Genesis 16:11,12, Genesis 11:29, + Genesis 17:5,15,19, Genesis 32:28, Genesis 35:10, Revelation 19:11,

Thanks for your question, for it did remind me of that. Genesis 5:2,

Hopefully these are helpful & give you intrigue into deeper study of names with scripture & reading GOD's WORD

The first five verses are indicative of Christ ascending to heaven after Satan attempted to kill the Messiah. This reflects the prophecy of Mtthew 2:18; as well as the third of the angels that Lucifer drew under his spell in the past in verse 4. There is also an alternative interpretation of the Raptured church being the "manchild." It is true that it is the heritage of the saints to rule and reign with Christ ( Rev. 2:26-28). There are supporting verses to us being Kings and Priests in other places as well. The general statement here can be that some are taken to heaven; others protected on earth of His people (and of course some are martyred). God seems to show favor to the 144,000 in particular here; however and perhaps to the remnant in Petra.

Verse 7-12 show Michael; who is the angel who had contented with Satan previously over the body of Moses (Jude; verse 9). He watches over His people ( Dan. 12:1). He will battle with Satan with each opposing army of angels. Of course; Satan loses and is cast to earth. This gives the victorious statements in verses 10-12. It seems here that the accuser through the whole first half of the Trib. will be accusing us. He won't be able to get in the way of the Lord. Some say this is only for those still alive; but I can't see how that can be said. In any event we ALL will be glad when this event happens.

The rest of the passage gets into God's protection against a "flood" verse 15 (some take it as a band of warriors; but possibly it is a literal flood) which occurs after Satan is cast down. After God protects His own (probably hiding in Petra); Satan goes after the rest of the believers; which will be those in the next chapter taking the mark and going after nonbelievers themselves; most likely or with his minions.

Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another sign in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4 And (his) tail draggeth the third part of the stars of heaven, and (he) cast them to the earth: and the dragon is

standing before the woman which was ready to be delivered, in order to devour her child as soon as it was born.

What is the object ? (The dragon)

What did his tail do ? (It dragged 1/3 part of the stars, and cast them to the earth) they were deceived and followed him, it caused them to be (thrown down) not thrown out with him,.,, as when a fishermans net drags the bottom of the lake, dragging the net of fishes

drew = draggeth. See John 21:8

Spartacus. When you look up the lord's day or day of the lord the context is

Always when he's either returning for the church or His personal appearing in

The appearing or revelation of Jesus Christ. The first appearing he does not

Touch down in thessalonians but we meet Him in the air. The second one he

Does to judge mankind revelation. In 1Corinthians 4:3 Paul talks about being

Judged by man's judgement that is who does the judging in courts around the

World, another way of putting it is man's day. There are things in the book of

Revelation that have already occurred. Revelation 12:1-6 have already happened.

John 8:42-44, Ephesians 4:14, Revelation 12:9, Revelation 18:23, Revelation 20:3, he is deceiver, liar,

Psalms 24:1, 1Corinthians 10:26, The Earth's the LORD's & fullness thereof

Hopefully these are helpful

You couldn't be more wrong GIGI!

Genesis 3:12 And the man Adam said,"The woman whom Thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat."

13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, "What is this that thou hast done?" And the woman said, "The serpent

[Satan] beguiled/wholly seduced me, and I did eat."

14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, "Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15 And I will put enmity/construct between thee and the woman, and between thy [Satan's] seed and her Seed; Christ shall bruise thy head [vital part], and thou shalt bruise His heel [lower part]."

16 Unto the woman He said, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception [pregnancy]; in sorrow [painful

toil] thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be subject to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."

Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the SERPENT BEGUILED EVE THROUGH HIS SUBTILTY, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Who's the serpent? Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Matthew 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets

32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Jeff yes i believe there is a Population left on this earth after the 2 nd coming.... Revelation 11:15....The Kingdoms of this World have become the Kingdoms of our lord and his Christ and he shall reign for ever and ever.

......And Revelation 12:5 ....She brought forth a manchild that is gona rule ALL NATIONS with a rod of iron....Why wd God send this manchild which is the H.G....The Spirit of truth that Jesus tells us will reprove the WORLD of sin and righteousness and judgement...If God were gonna do away with this beautiful earth...(All Nations )... John 16:8 ....When he the spirit of truth is come he will reprove the world of sin and judgement and Righteousness...So this world has no end...It even mentions that God will destroy them that destroy this earth...In Rev. 11 :18

......In Rev. 14 :6 I saw another mighty Angel having the everlasting Gospel to preach to all that dwell on the earth...To every Nation, ppl, kindred, tongue....Saying give Glory to him that made the earth and the heaven and fountains of waters.

......Why wd God send this angel to preach the everlasting gospel to all that dwell on the earth...If there were no Population to preach to....And y wd God have to send this mighty Angel to preach the everlasting gospel to all that dwell on the earth if the Churches had the everlasting Gospel...Plz note the Kingdom of God does not come till the woman births the manchild which is the H.G...That Spirit of truth...The Children of PROMISE....Our new heart and new spirit...We have to birth a new innerman via his good seed the word And Jesus said that he wd abide with us forever...So there is gona be a great Population right here on this earth....Seed time and HARVEST FOREVER.

Which scripture states its the holy spirit that letteth?

I'm not settled on who or what is keeping Satan at bay.

Some theories i've heard,

The holy spirit

The church itself as a whole (seems unlikely to me)

Michael and his angels (see below)

Revelation 12:7-12

King James Version

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, *NOW* is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Seems like satan stays in heaven and is stuck in heaven until he and his are cast down after the war with michael and his angels in heaven.

Hello,

1st want to address

The Earth is The LORD's & the fulness thereof! Psalms 24:1, Daniel 7:13-14, Romans 6:9,

Dominion GOD gave to mankind. Genesis 1:26,27,28,

War in Heaven: cast out, Revelation 12:7-17, persecution but not dominion, John 8:42-44, Revelation 20:7-15, Please read all of Chapter for context. Revelation 13, Revelation 20, deceiver like Genesis 3, James 4,

Psalms 145:1-13, Daniel 4:2,3,34, Daniel 6:26, Ephesians 1:17-23, Ephesians 6:11-18,

Hopefully these are helpful,

Please read the WORD, & study