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i'm an American i was born in Mexico i've believed in Jesus and heard messages given me in dreams and words when waking up. once i heard Israel this is your last chance at that time i was being carnal cause someone was attacking me.

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You could also cite the many Scriptures that speak of those who fell down & worshipped Jesus. And this was not people doing obeisance to a 'mighty Prophet of God', but in recognition that this Holy One came from God & to be worshipped as they would God.

A few Scriptures: Matthew 2:10,11 (the magi from the East before the Babe). Matthew 8:2 (by a Leper). Matthew 9:18. Matthew 14:33. John 9:36-38. Acts 10:25,26 (an account where Peter refused the worship of Cornelius).

I always pray to the Father, but I find no reason why I can't pray to the Lord Jesus & glorify & worship Him also.

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At least two thats why they say a young child

How old was Jesus when the wise man came to visit

In the text it indicates that Jesus was a young child, how young was he when the kings arrived? We have always believed that he was a baby in the manger when the kings arrived........

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Thank you for your feedback. Can you please be more specific? What specific comment by whom do you feel is in error and what specific book and chapter of the commentary do you disagree with?

This web site is a dishonour to the Lord and some day those responsible will answer for it .

Get rid of your comments and commentary made by men that are in error !

I had heard in the past, around age 2; which I tend to believe. It would've been very difficult to go those distances with a newborn infant.

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They reached Egypt after a 65 kilometers journey where they lived for three years until after the death of Herod in 4 B.C. when Joseph had a dream that it is safe to return to Israel. The family traveled to Nazareth which took them a journey of at least 170 kilometers.

The Gospel of Matthew, chapter 2, gives a biblical summary of Christ's early infancy and childhood. This passage identifies the place of Christ's birth as being Bethlehem of Judea and the time of His birth was in the days of Herod the King. Herod the King was known as "Herod the Great," and was made King by the Romans in the year 43 BC Historians tell us that his death occurred approximately 4 BC According to Matthew Henry's commentary on the book of Matthew, page 10, Christ was born in the 35th year of Herod the Great's reign. According to Albert Barnes' commentary on the book of Matthew, King Herod the Great died in his 37th year of reign. The best chronologers have supposed that Herod died somewhere between two and four years after the birth of Christ, but the particular time cannot now be determined; nor can it be ascertained at what age Jesus was taken into Egypt. It seems probable that He was between one and two years old-based upon the account of Herod's order to kill all the children two years and under.

After Joseph was told to take Mary and Jesus to Egypt how long did they remain there, how many years till Herod die?

After Christ was born, how many days later did the three wise men visit?

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The most tragic figures in Matthew's 2nd chapter are the mothers of the children slain by Herod. They would not be comforted because their children were no more. As the mother of a lost child, I can envision their grief and horror since it is not clear they had any real clue as to why their babies were dead. I am struggling with the question this brings up: if fulfilling God's plan meant allowing my child to be slain, could I do it? Who among us could? Yes, God the Father could, and did, allow his Son's death. What could I sacrifice?

Indeed, constellations, stars & planets are mentioned in the Bible, but the problem arises when certain folk begin to read into their location & positioning, thus forming the basis for present & future occurrences in the universe or in people's lives.

There is no indication in the Bible that these heavenly bodies can be referred to for any type of predictions. Just as much as reading the palm of the hand or examining the placement of tea leaves at the bottom of a cup. All these are superstition-based pursuits as only God can only knows, direct & accomplish our futures. Though we do have the instance of a star which guided the maji to Jesus' place of birth ( Matthew 2:1-11) but of what sort that was we're not told & that occasion wouldn't have come under the purview of astrology.

Book of Joel, chapter 1

8 Lament like a virgin girded with sackcloth for the husband of her youth.

9 The meat offering and the drink offering is cut off from the house of the LORD; the priests, the LORD'S ministers, mourn.

10 The field is wasted, the land mourneth; for the corn is wasted: the new wine is dried up, the oil languisheth.

11 Be ye ashamed, O ye husbandmen; howl, O ye vinedressers, for the wheat and for the barley; because the harvest of the field is perished.

12 The vine is dried up, and the fig tree languisheth; the pomegranate tree, the palm tree also, and the apple tree, even all the trees of the field, are withered: because joy is withered away from the sons of men.

13 Gird yourselves, and lament, ye priests: howl, ye ministers of the altar: come, lie all night in sackcloth, ye ministers of my God: for the meat offering and the drink offering is withholden from the house of your God.

14 Sanctify ye a fast, call a solemn assembly, gather the elders and all the inhabitants of the land into the house of the LORD your God, and cry unto the LORD,

15 Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.

In what book can I find the verse "Marry the child of your youth".

Jeremiah 15-18 Prophesy

15 Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rachel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not. (Killed by Herod)

16 Thus saith the LORD; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the LORD; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.

17 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying,

18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.

Matthew 2:13-18; the event as foretold by Jeremiah:

13 And when they (the 3 Kings) were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.

14 When he arose, he took the young child (Jesus) and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt:

15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, Jeremiah saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.

16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.

Comment: it was a prophesy foretold hundreds of years prior. All of Gods prophesies will be fulfilled; if He tells it to a prophet. Note: the slain children went to heaven that day.

Mishael

If only we cared as much for millions of aborted babies in our nation??

Let us cast our VOTE for the Presidential candidate that is Against Abortion & Planned Parenthood. Amen!

I don't understand why God sent a messenger to warn Joseph of the impending coming of Herod's men and didn't do the same for the parents of the children murdered on that unfortunate night.

In Judaism and the Old Testament there are Nazarites. The Nazarites followed very strict interpretation of Jewish Law which included not drinking wine or grapes amoung others. Could the place of Nazareth be confused in interpretation to being a Nazarite?

Jesus the beloved Son of God came to this world to save us from sin. How beautiful was the birth of our Deliverer and Saviour.

For if, by the trespass of the one, death reigned through the one; much more shall they that receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one, (even) Jesus Christ. Adam's sin has allowed death to "reign" over the human race. We face physical and spiritual death because of sin. We may say that at the present time death is king of the hill ( Hebrews 2:15) for all who are not Christians. Death ceases to be king for those who become Christians because the saved "reign in life through Jesus Christ." Those who are in Christ are able to overcome the spiritual consequences of sin, and they overcome physical death in the sense that they will be raised to inherit eternal life. Death is no longer an unbeatable enemy. It may win a battle when it claims our life, but it will not defeat the Christian in the war for the soul. For information on the word "trespasses" (paraptoma), see the commentary on verse16. Concerning the word reign (basileuo), this same term is used of an earthly ruler in Matthew 2:22, sin ( Romans 6:12), and Jesus Himself ( 1 Corinthians 15:25). It is also found in verse21. Here, it is used twice, and its dual use shows that the reign of death can be defeated if we accept the reign offered by Christ. Describing God's grace as "abundant" (perisseia) caused Paul to use a term found only here, 2 Corinthians 8:2; 2 Corinthians 10:15; James 1:21. In each of these places it refers "to something above or beyond the normal. It suggests 'the element of excess and fullness that overflows the set bounds. In this process of overflowing, the existing standards and rules are transcended and what was comparable becomes incomparable'" (CBL, GED, 5:160). We have access to God's grace right now because "receiving" is a present tense verb. Notice too that our ability to overcome the consequences of sin is only possible "through" (ASV) or "by" (KJV) Christ. This is absolutely consistent with other verses like John 14:6.

Morning brethren?Let us always follow the word of God not our thoughts as the book of mathew2says.

This is a testimony by Mathew regarding the basic events that occur when our Savior was born. Without adding anything from anywhere else we can conclude that the birth of Jesus was prophesied way before He was born. This chapter does not state that the wise men were saints. In Russian translation they are called volkhv (which are somebody like sorcerer or magician). Somehow it was open to them that there will be a birth of the King of Jews. God can use anybody in order to achieve His plans, and here he used wise men. Whether wise men knew about the real significance of this event, we do not know, however perhaps they knew something very important about was happening by reading stars.

no there were only three saint

I agree that Satan uses man to change the story as the story has certainly been changed. I believe the main point of the Bible is that man was lost in need of a Savior. So, God the Father sent His son, Yeshua Jesus , a Hebrew to do just that.

Man can not live by his understanding alone we are like sheep and sheep are not known to be smart Yes it is important to follow the whole bible word for word every word counts. But the main point of the bible is that Jesus Christ is the Son of God the Father and Satan uses man like Eve in the garden, very subtly to change the story. Now we know as Christens without Christ you can not get through

Yes it is important to follow the whole bible word for word every word counts. But the main point of the bible is that Jesus Christ is the Son of God the Father and Satan uses man like Eve in the garden, very subtly to change the story. Now we know as Christens without Christ you can not get through to the father.... Example the Muslim book follows the old testament but Jesus not son of God.

Nothing is to small for God to be concerned about. To get all of the meat off the bone, one should be concerned about all details, however small. Failure to do so may result in the incorrect understanding of the meaning of Scripture.