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I agree. It sure seems like Christians are eager to disobey Jesus and what He spoke in Matthew 28:19. Coming up with every possible rationalization to not follow Jesus's words while at the same time claiming to be a Jesus follower. God is the judge and sure He is big and powerful enough to make exceptions and allow anyone in paradise He wants, like the thief on a cross, maybe someone on their death bed who decides to follow Jesus. But why would someone whose goal is to follow Jesus work so hard to NOT follow Jesus? Ashamed? Embarrassed? Mark 8:38 Matthew 10:32-33 It seems like a Christian that just doesn't agree with THAT part of Christianity, but the rest of it? Seems like an enormous risk to take in my opinion, almost like a heart of pride and rebellion has something to do with this resistance.

Acts 2:38 - some silently add a "Do NOT..." in front of this verse. Could satan be involved in this? He sure likes deceiving Christians into doing the opposite of what Jesus tells them.

John 14:15 - Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments. Does someone who doesn't obey Jesus truly love Jesus then?

Psalm 56. In this Psalm once again we see the pleading of David to God in relation to the pursuing enemies. The story of the backdrop in Gath was complex; but basically David had a tenuous relationship with the Philistines while he made them rich fighting surrounding tribes; but acting as though he was fighting against Israel so as to obtain residence and favor while there. Obviously; there would be enemies from without and within as well as Saul always in the backdrop; even if put at bay for a time.

Matthew 10:28 comes to mind when we look at verse 11; and verse 13 also shows salvation of the soul spiritually overrides any fears of man in this world.

Verse 8 needs some explanation. The book here seems to reference something more specific than that of the Book of Life. It may be the same thing or something similar to the Book of Remembrance in Malachi 3:6-18. God surely knows all things and in fact every word we speak we are held accountable for in Judgment Day. ( Matthew 12:36). We are reminded here and with apparently another 99 verses in the Word about sorrow in the lives of believers (see Isaiah 53:3 for the life of Christ as it truly was rather than some sentimental story).

Finally, it should be noticed from verses 3 and 11 that TRUST is an important aspect to true belief in Christ. It is more than mental assent or knowing about Christ. It is trusting our lives to Him; our possessions; our relationships; our vocations; our ALL. It is helpful through this not to place trust ultimately in anything or anyone else; especially ourselves. As Psalm 23 states even through the shadow of death He shall guide us. His Word is true ( 2 Cor 1:18-20; Rev. 3:14). Let us put our trust in Him today and always.

Wisdom part 4

How the family interacts also shows how those who value children as a heritage from the Lord are blessed by prosperity. There are many principles the Amish for instance demonstrate by providing food from their own crops; labor from their children and eliminating waste with those endless gadgets and luxuries the rest of America has felt entitled to. This has largely kept their children from the suicidal; ungodly society rife with all sorts of sins that are bringing this generation at an unprecidented rate to physical and spiritual destruction. This is not to say that there aren't things being put under the rug in those closed societies (I won't mention anything specific here but a little research will demonstrate one particular issue). Nonetheless we see a society which has maintained an amazing amount of stability compared to the rest of Americans largely obsessed with the cares of this life.

One of my favorite scriptures is Matthew 10:16. We are to be wise but maintain a clear conscience. One thing I may have brought up before is how many are attempting to insulate their children from the evils of this world; while all the time exposing them to graphic virtual reality in video games; and other forms of entertainment and whatever they are being indoctrinated into in their schools. We are obsessed with always saying things that are inoffensive; yet leave little room for any real discussion; debate or even confrontations. It used to be much better it seems to me when kids would have occasional fistfights; rather than going out the whole way with guns (like they see in the movies). The wise thing I would say is to teach ALL these kids self defense and how to properly use weapons once they are teenagers so than any nut jub would know there would be say 20 or 30 others attacking them if they decided to go rogue (as well as having the teachers and other sources of protection actually doing their job along with enforcing penalties for crime.

John 15:18

Matthew 10:22

The world hated Jesus first. I'm really concerned about the world currently, because people are exchanging truth for lies as the shinier more appealing object of their affection. Truth seems unpopular in current times- this is hard to see unfold as I used to have hope for a brighter future.

Fortunately God gave us this test to determine if spirits (including voices) are from God or not:

1 John 4:1-3

Also God says do not fear the enemy/satan. He holds no power over us:

Matthew 10:28

He can only tempt, but we can resist and he will flee. We always have a way out if we look for it.

1 Corinthians 10:13

So, you do not need to worry or have any fear about these. If you rebuke the evil spirits in the name of Jesus they will go away.

Matthew 4:10

Mark 9:28-29 Prayer

I am praying for you now. God bless you in the name of Jesus. I would do absolutely everything to dedicate your life to following Jesus, including fasting, reading the word, prayer, praise. Get rid of any filth you can and replace it with God's purity. Don't hang on to any of it. End times are near. Also, watch out for false prophets. They may lurk anywhere, even in this forum. Rely on God's truth, not on man's itching ears who love to spread lies from satan.

There is a phrase I heard while travelling: "Same, but Different"

This might explain the seemingly paradoxical relationship of the trinity or Godhead. Exactly how much the same are they and exactly how different are they? We don't know, we're only humans with limited capacity to comprehend this and no Earthly experience with this relationship. We only know what God's word says...

1 John 5:7

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

1 Kings 8:60 That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

John 1:1-2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Isaiah 9:6

John 10:38

"...the Father is in me, and I in him."

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

1 John 5:20

"And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life."

Acts 17:29

"Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or sto

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

1 Timothy 1:1 "Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;"

True God: ( 1 John 5:20) - This is a direct assertion that Jesus, being the true God, is not only divine, but is the Divine. Because the Bible says there is only one God, this is describing His nature as part of the triune God.

Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." The Son is called "God."

I Am: ( John 8:58, with Exodus 3:14) - When Jesus ascribed to Himself this title, the Jews tried to stone Him for blasphemy.

2 Pet. 1:1 "Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:"

"our God and our Saviour"

Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Severe penalty for denying Jesus.

Matthew 10:22, 2 Thessalonians 2:10.

Hi Dr Lyle Lee.

I agree with you on the two Gospels being preached. Where some get confused is they think that means there's 2 means to salvation. But that's not so.

HERE'S A ARTICLE FROM J VERNON MCGEE ON THIS.

( This may take several posts)

Part 1.

The gospel of the kingdom is the preaching of John the Baptist: "The kingdom of heaven is at hand" ( Matthew 3:2). We do not preach that gospel today. The Lord Jesus preached it when He first began (see Matthew 4:17), and He sent His disciples out, saying, "Goto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand" ( Matthew 10:6,7). These men went out and preached that, but the day came when that changed. After His death and resurrection He said, "Don't just go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, but go now to the world" (see Mark 16:15). And to the world was to be preached the gospel of Christ. Paul mentions in Romans 15:19, "I have fully preached the gospel of Christ." Read his epistles and you'll find that the gospel he preached was that of the death and resurrection of Christ. He wrote to the Corinthians and said, "I delivered unto you first of all the gospel. And the gospel I preach is the one that you believed in, the one that saved you." Well, what is it, Paul? It's "that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures" ( 1 Corinthians 15:3). That's the gospel, it's nothing but the gospel, and nothing else is the gospel. Even if an angel from heaven appears to you and preaches any other gospel, Paul says let him be accursed! (See Galatians 1:8.) Because there's only one gospel that we are to preach today. We do not preach the gospel of the kingdom. I wish we could get that through today to a great many who are talking about the gospel of the kingdom.

See part 2.

This Psalm has the first direct reference to hell in verse 6 as to the punishments inflicted (snares; fire and brimstone and an horrible tempest). David understands in his own life how those who persecute him in verses 1 through 3 how men such as himself are to go into hiding (verse 1). He shows in verse 2 the general attitude of the wicked persecuting the righteous.

Verse 3 seems to suggest the foundations as being those things promised of God or the boundaries set beyond which man cannot pass. We can remind ourselves of what Christ said in Matthew 10:28 about those who can only destroy the body; in regard to fearing what God can do to both body and soul in eternal judgment.

Verse 5 shows the understanding of God chastising those He loves ( Rev. 3:19 among others).

There is a difference between that and God's judgment; as the righteous in this age are going before the Bema Seat; but the wicked to the Great White Throne Judgment. God's promises are always eternal; whether to the souls of the elect; or to His covenants on earth.

We are reminded of such verses as Proverbs 5:22 and the evil devices of man. These are numerous. In fact there are hundreds of verses on man's wickedness. We are reminded in verse 5 that we are never to love violence as the wicked do. Justice may be served without glorifying the necessary penalties rendered under the law without removing corporate punishment. We need to be careful not to get caught up in all the entertainment that displays such behavior; and this includes sports. Maybe one can watch boxing without glorifying violence; but in hockey games in particular it is almost guaranteed that fighting will occur in almost every game at some point. The same thing holds true for those fighting on the battle field. There are those who enjoy talking about killing even innocent people among some veterans today. Sometimes we oversimplify international conflicts as well; so we need to think as Bereans not by all the media says

Hi GiGi,

Neither do I get that God would hate what He would redeem, for this would be to do evil that good may come, which is in direct opposition to the principle Paul established as he was guided by the Holy Spirit, that we should NOT do evil that good may come, for fear of just damnation (wrath) from God: Romans 3:8.

In regards to God hating humans, I'm certain you are aware of Malichi 1:3 which I believe Paul was referring to "As it is written" in Romans 9:13.

You stated, "I think it says that it is because of His loving kindness that He does nor destroy humans because of their sinfulness." To this I would suggest Matthew 10:28.

I'm inclined to think hate is hate just as love is love, although each can appear in different forms, which is the only thing hate and love have in common. As I've mentioned numerous times, Love can only create Itself and nothing but Itself. In the same manner, hate produces hate, meaning also that it cannot create Love. There is no compromise between the two. Actually, the two cannot even communicate with each other. We tend to think that fear as well as Love can be communicated and also be shared. Yet this this is not so real as it may appear; those who communicate fear are promoting attack, and attack always breaks communication, making communication impossible. How is it possible that God or The Prince of Peace have peace in condemnation, attack, wrath, vengeance, damnation, etc? If this is God, then what kind of unimaginable monster is the evil devil. Or if this is God, then its opposite must be Love, full of mercy,compassion, light, joy, and forgiveness?? This is simple logic.

Outside the two scriptures I mentioned about the Bible saying that God hates parts of His Creation, I'm not aware at this time where it says this anywhere else. Once is enough. Yet, there are many biblical passages in Scripture that reflect hate and darkness from God. I don't know if I will ever be able to accept this.

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God Is.

Jesus speaking in context : Mark 10:13-31, notice he started with the little children that were being pushed aside._.. Notice too he says many not all. Luke 18:17, Mark 10:15,

Giannis says Israel, that seems very contradictory to the WORD: Romans 11, whole chapter. Notice, Luke 13:22-35, note Luke 13:27, iniquity, Matthew 7, Matthew 25:31-46, Isaiah 48:12, Matthew 24:48-51,

Matthew 20:1-16, again arrogance & expecting more reward than another? Again if you go back a little in context Jesus is telling them don't forbid the children to come to Him. Matthew 19:14, continued the same event follows. Matthew 19:14-30, so Matthew 20, is repeating the teaching of 1st, & last; meekness, in another perspective same teaching. Matthew 10:22,24,25,42, Matthew 10:5-42, Mark 9:35, Mark 10:44, Matthew 20:27, Matthew 18:3,4,5,

Hopefully these are helpful

Psalm 1 is only five verses long; but contains several very important themes. Namely; it is avoiding heeding to the council of the wicked in terms of taking to heart; the character; longevity and wisdom of the righteous and their eternal destinies; and the opposing state of the wicked.

There are warnings for those who would esteem men and exalt those who the world does in Luke 16:15. The foolishness of God is greater than any of man's vain knowledge ( 1 Corinthians 1:25). We see this pattern among many of the Pharisees who believed but becuase they did not wish to lose their position in the Synagogue remained silent. (see John 12:42). We must heed warnings such as that of Jesus who stated that "he who confesses me before men I will confess before the Father in heaven in Matthew 10:32 and the denial of those who will deny Him in the very next verse. We see what the wicked counsel of the Jews led to with the crucifixion of Christ. At the very least we must heed to Revelation 3:11 which in my book is a very undervalued admonition about losing our reward and basically handing it over to another. We also must take care not to behave as the world does with gossip and chatter about every controversy.

Verse 2 and 3 discuss the characteristics of the righteous. We are reminded here of Psalm 119 where the longest chapter in all scripture repeats over and over the love of the law of God which is only possible with a regenerated heart; else it ends up being religious self-righteousness. The result of such a character is perseverance of character; and blessings for this life and the one to come.

Verse 4 and 5 discuss the wicked. It shows how they won't even stand at the judgment. That makes it clear why we shouldn't stand with them in the first place. They are compared to chaff (also seen in the N.T. and in Job 21:18; etc).

The last verse shows how God keeps His sheep; and the wicked basically are on a default mode to destruction.

Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

Jude 1:4 "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."

Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."

"Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him." James 1:12

"Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory." 2 Timothy 2:10

Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

2 Corinthians 5:10 - For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." Matthew 10:22

"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Matthew 24:13

"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Mark 13:13 KJV

Judy Law,

I pray for you as you mourn you're beloved Queen. Many in the World are saddened. I am deeply saddened for your Country, all those that grieve & are unsure of the future. Your Queen did not deny Jesus Christ Matthew 10:32-33,

Romans 14:4,

Luke 6:22,26, Mark 13:11, Matthew 5:11, Ephesians 6:10-18, Matthew 10:34, 1Peter 4, 2Timothy 3:12, 1Peter 3:8-22,

2Timothy 2:3,

Queen Elizabeth II, was faithfully pointing recognition to Christ even this last Christmas, in today's world, they celebrated the Jubilee, which is biblically founded. Matthew 10:32,

Perhaps the questions arise because of teachings not actually in scripture.

John 17, Please read whole chapter, Isaiah 11:1,2, John 3:16, Matthew 10:32,33,

Ephesians 4:30, Luke 11:13, Ephesians 1:1-13, Ephesians 1:17-23, Matthew 24:35,36,

John 14:26, John 16:7,

Hopefully these are helpful

Wisdom: Yes,

The Bible gives us examples to help direct us, I believe. 1Samuel 18:10,11, 1 Samuel 19:7,9,10, 1Samuel 27:1,2, if someone is physically harming you, dangerous it's wisdom to get away. David forgave, but had to wisely stay away from Saul. Please read all of 1Samuel to know the more complete story.

Judges 16:4-21, Samson keep forgiving it appears & forgetting. Didn't seem wise. Delilah kept betraying Samson.

Many more stories of fleeing evil, Matthew 10:23, Mark 13:14, 1Timothy 6:3-12, all those & these, flee, 1Corinthian 6:18,

But don't fear, James 4:7,

Vengeance is GOD's

Romans 12:17-21,

Hopefully these are helpful to your situation

Hi Spencer

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If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. ( James 1:5)

For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say. ( Luke 12:12)

for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. ( Mark 13:11)

For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. ( Matthew 10:20)

And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

And all the men were about twelve. ( Acts 19:6-7)

But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. ( 1 Corinthians 12:7, 8, 11)

If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. ( 1 Peter 4:11)

2 Timothy 2:15 is a powerful verse. If we do not learn how to rightly divide the word of truth, we will be lost understanding the chain of events from the time God brought the Hebrews from the Land of Egypt until The Christ Lord Jesus died on the cross up to our time today which is approximately 2,000 years. Honestly, we do not have time. As you all noticed the rapid days go by quickly as God says 2 Peter 3:8 and you see Psalms 2:1-12

I do not mind repeating to all that the Bible is a complete book Revelation 19:13 for us today to prepare ourselves and others. I pray all to be saved. We cannot have the people caught unaware of Matthew 24:37. To rightly divide is to know for us today what we need to do. So I will say that the 11 apostles messages are important for the physical Jews Matthew 10:5-7 at the end time; and there are verses in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John that pertains to a spiritual Christians of today.

God had chosen Paul to be His vessel so we can read and believe not in vain. Study the Book of Romans to Philemon because he was the Last and believe it or not the 12th Apostle Galatians 1:1, Acts 9:15, Acts 13:47, Acts 22:21, Roman's 11:13, Ephesians 3:8, 1 Timothy 2:7, Galatians 1:16. After Jesus died He says Hebrews 9:14-17. Then you are Ephesians 1:12-14, 2 Timothy 2:19 and 2 Corinthians 1:22. Therefore, 1 Corinthians 9:2 just like Romans 15:28. Ephesians 4:30 and sing Psalms 49:8, 111:9, 130:7. In conclusion my fellow-believers, Paul is sealed 1 Corinthians 9:2 by God to be our apostle today. Weneedtoputtheworkof Paul not in vain Galatians 6:11. Paul tells us Romans 2:16, Romans 16:25, 2 Timothy 2:8. And the gospel is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Then we are sealed Ephesians 1:13. Perhaps you are not understanding me because Revelation 18:4, Proverbs 20:1, Roman's 7:11, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Corinthians 15:33, Galatians 6:7, 1 Timothy 2:14, 2 Timothy 3:13, Titus 3:3, and lastly Revelation 18:23. Psalm 37:1-40 then we meditate Psalms 27:1-3. Shalom/Agape.

Myfarewellmessagetothissite Matthew 10:14, Luke 9:5. God tells me to go back and convince one more time the people reading this site-must know that God sent his only begotten Son to destroy sins. He died once for all of us Galatians 3:28 in a very powerful way. A pattern that is similar in the Old Testament-sacrificial shedding of blood of the lamb. God knows we cannot save ourselves. So we need a Saviour Jesus Christ. He did it for us All. My prayers are to help everyone understand this basic concept and many will be saved. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. We do not believe in vain, nor we put the work of ALL apostles, most especially Paul who was the last apostle to write plethora of information for everyone to be saved. Remember the Bible is complete by itself. God gave us a free gift of grace Romans 5:15-18. The ten Commandments are for us to see how sinful we are. That is why Paul calls it a schoolmaster Galatians 3:24-25. So when you believe, trust and have faith in Jesus Christ's blood that He shed for our sins Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:2; 1 John 4:10 we die with Him Galatians 2:20. That is the baptism without submerging yourself into the water Acts 1:5, Acts 10:47,Roman's 6:3, Galatians 3:27, 1 Corinthians 10:2. We are not divided Christians 1 Corinthians 1:13-16, 1 Corinthians 12:13. Once you are saved you are sealed Ephesians 1:13, 2 Corinthians 1:22, John 6:27. Jesus sent Paul to seal us Gentiles Romans 15:28. So grieve not Ephesians 4:30. When the Holy Spirit is in you you do not want to commit sin, if you do, you are letting your old self to dominate your spirit. We are walking in the Spirit of God. God already won. Do not let Satan defeat you (on going Spiritual warfare) that is why let every thought to be with God 2 Corinthians 10:5. I came back to fulfill with the help of the Holy Spirit to ask that you trust only Jesus and not yourself here on earth. Let Jesus do the rest. It is indeed true OSAS.Sealed is sealed.You reap what you sow on earth. Peace&joy to ALL.

Of course the soul must die ! How can death be a punishment if our soul , which is us , doesn't die ?

The Pastor is WRONG, and the Bible does support the death of the soul,,,it's called the second death, at the Great White Throne Judgement if thou hath not repented and come to the Lord, thou shall perish.

They are cast into the lake of fire, for God IS that lake of fire

DEUTERONOMY 4:24 (For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.)

PSALMS 37:13 But the lawless shall perish, And the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.

What happens to the fat when it drips onto the coals in a BBQ?

DEUTERONOMY 4:24 (For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.)

20 And the beast was arrested, and with him the false prophet that did the signs before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone

The Son of Perdition means liable to Die, He's the only one sentenced to DEATH thus far, but many follow him into the lake, whereby they die.

Hi Bruce,

As I see this verse, It says not to be fearful of anyone who can kill our bodies where they do die. But to fear the One who can destroy body and soul in hell. I believe, since kill is not used in to second scenario, that Jesus is talking about eternal destruction, eternal punishment, and eternal condemnation, not the death of our soul. I believe that our soul will live immortally as will our bodies at the resurrection, either in heaven or hell. As far as at death when our bodies are dead, is our soul also dead? I don't think it ceases to exist during this time. What does it do during the time of our mortal death and our resurrection?

I would hope to get some well thought out and well explained replies this. This discussion has been on this site before in recent weeks, but not concerning this verse, as far as I can recall.

Bruce,

I agree with your pastor. Matthew 10:28 says, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

That word able is the key. This to me says that God is able to destroy both soul and body in hell, meaning He has the capacity and ability to do so, but no place in scripture supports the idea that He has or will destroy anyone's soul in Hell.

In fact, the bible seems to teach that the soul, when it departs our physical body at death (And death literally means separation), but the soul lives throughout eternity in either Heaven or Hell. Matthew 25:46 is one place that would support the eternal existence of the soul. It says, "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." There are several other places in scripture that also support the same eternal existence of the soul.

Now if the soul is destroyed in Hell, how could it be everlasting punishment? Some do teach that the soul will be destroyed, meaning that it will cease to exist. They call it annihilation. But the bible does not support that teaching. But I would have to agree with your pastor. As person will either spend eternity with Christ, or they will go off to everlasting (Same as eternity) punishment, completely separated from Christ throughout eternity.

Is there any other place/s in scripture other than Matthew 10:28 that would cause you to believe that the soul is not eternal?

matthew10:28 be afraid of him that can kill the soul in hell [GOD] last Sunday our Pastor said the soul never dies. I believe the soul does die in hell... what say you??

Dear "Fred Scanlan", Thanks for the nice introduction to being a Fisherman. It reminded me of the patience a Fisherman must have, go in, wait, patiently, come up with new tactics and sort of guide the fish into the net. Thanks again for there are some Big fish in the keel water here. (smiley) In Jesus name.

Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

As the years go by, I understand more and more God's plan, and see His work with us all. Even the sleaziest fish can turn around and come to the hook in the end. Where it looks closed in cloudy water, there may also be some gold grains. Who comes forth and gives great thanksgiving to our God. So really, all people can thank for the good God we have. So we fishermen must dress with more than patience, with peace, long-suffering, forgiveness yes! All Jesus' good gifts. Because all people are loved by God, therefore we must love one another. God bless you brother through thick and thin. Be strong in your word and share. The only harm it can do is for people to repent from dead works to faith, and belive in the Living Jesus Christ. Amen

John 19

Dear God, Father in Heaven. Hear our prayer Lord we pray in Your Holy Name Jesus Christ. Thank you Jesus for it is written in Your word:

Matthew 10:18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.

19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.

20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

We put this problem on You Lord, deliver your servant and he will always rejoice and be strengthened in You Lord Jesus Christ, Amen

Just on your reference to Master. I've always understood the word to mean 'teacher', as in Matthew 10:25, & many other verses.

Just checked the Greek word for it & it seems to confirm it. If you're of my vintage, we always referred to our male teachers as 'Master', at least in my very early school years (based on the British classification of Master & Mistress). Yet certainly, the idea of subservience is very evident by virtue of the position of the two parties, though unlikely that of a servant/slave.

Thanks for sharing what you did - always helpful & soul-nourishing.

Hello Gigi:

I truly appreciate your response. I am also happy that we can discuss the truth according to the word of God, KJV Bible. I really do agree with what you said that Jesus came to save all of us. So as the apostle Paul. That is why he wrote the gospel according to the scriptures in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. There is none that indicated in my explanations that Paul has a different Gospel than Jesus Christ. I simply stated that these two verses distinguishes one from the other (i.e. between v8 and v16). Come to think of it. It makes it more amazing that God is a God of number. It multiplies the 8 by 2 and you have verse 16. Anyway, I digressed. It also amazes me that in Matthew 15:24 Jesus said that. I know every word in the Bible is very important, especially inspired by God. There is no way one can understand the Bible without dividing the word of truth per 2 Timothy 2:15. That is why I study very hard. Because Jesus Christ personally selected Paul to be His last disciple, Jesus revealed to Paul more information for us Gentiles. Something that Jesus did not reveal to other Apostles. Peter even agreed that some of Paul's epistles are hard to understand. But in the end Peter agreed with Paul. I am trying not to repeat myself in every comment entry I have here. With my 60 years experienced in the world, my professional job is really not to confused people. I have noticed some understand but not many see the truth. That is why I made my comment a stimulating discussions. I truly understand your point. I also can see why people get confused on the passages. I truly believed there is a dispensation in the word of truth. For example, why do you think Jesus Christ said to His disciples in Matthew 10:5-6 to not go to Gentiles but to the lost sheep of Israel? Then in the last two verses in Matthew 28 He said to go to all Nations? If there is no dispensation, one would say Jesus is contradicting Himself. But we know God better than that. Don't we?