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  • T. Levis - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 4 years ago
    I believe you're looking for Revelation 12, I gave additional Scripture in your question on same subject.

    I wanted to add: Jude 1, entire chapter & compare Revelation 12 to Luke 2:1-7, Matthew 2:7-23, John 19:30, 1Corinthians 15:20, John 21:14, Luke 22:69, Mark 16:19, Acts 5:31,

    Hopefully these are helpful also
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Luke 3 - 4 years ago
    Matthew 4:23, Matthew 9:35, Luke 9:1,2,11, 1Corinthians 12, Psalms 6:2, Matthew 10:1,8, Mark 9:23, Mark 9:14-29, Mark 16:17-18,

    I have also noticed the Laws given Moses in Deuteronomy, Leviticus, etc. about what GOD said not to eat many of those proven to causes of health problems. I know someone that changed diet & cured her diabetes.

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • T Levis - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Ezekiel 37:12-14, I was amazed the other day to see this prophecy.

    Matthew 27:52-53, I didn't find anywhere it clearly states how long.

    Luke 24:51, Mark 16:19, Acts 1:1-11, here is the account recorded of when Jesus was taken up.

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Free - In Reply - 4 years ago
    In the answers you have received dear sister Melissa, i see disbelief and reluctance. Even if something is true, one can not continue with such a sermon, repent and be baptized! We bear each other's burdens. Galatians 6:2 We will love each other and give each other holy kisses! 1 Corintihans 16:20 It's not about tying hands and sitting in a corner and thanking for everything. You must never forget the gifts of the Spirit. The Spirit is given to each one according to what is acceptable. So i recommend you ladies to throw out the water spirit you have received in your heart.

    1 Corintihans 12

    James 5:13-16

    Here it is clear the saved are being talked about. So there is a difference between laying hands on the saved and the unsaved. In my life I have never experienced and been infected by the people outside the church. Outside, they are not with us in the Spirit, are they?

    Mark 16:14-18

    Here it is Jesus Himself who gives the mission command. I want you all to overcome your unbelief, it is these words that you must prove dear sister. Seize the day, the moment, and capture every evil thought. Cleanse yourself every day from malicious thinking and live your life in Peace with Jesus and ppl that you hope for something you do not see. It applies to all of us. Romans 8 and 9 chapter. Go out at Jesus' command and look neither to the left nor to the right. Do the Lord's revelation and do not be afraid to live out the Gifts of the Spirit. If I have now misunderstood their answers, then remember that language, words can be confusing if they are not presented comprehensibly. I use google and sometimes it also goes wrong. :) please forgive me.

    God bless u all in Jesus Name He loves u, love u in Christ.
  • Cindy R Wiggins Tapia - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Dear Melissa, though I do believe in laying on hands during prayer for God's healing or guidance such as in ordination, the age of miracles such as the times of the apostles ended when the last one went to be with Jesus. I can think of nowhere in the Bible which teaches us to go about healing people.

    Jesus commanded us to bring souls to Jesus. Mark 16:15 "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature," so that they have a chance to be saved. Being born again is more important than anything in this world, including health, because a healthy body will not save one from hellfire. Jesus is the only way to Heaven. John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

    Speaking in Tongues

    4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

    5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

    6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

    7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

    8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

    Speaking in tongues means speaking in a "foreign language". It was the miraculous ability some early Christians had that enabled them to speak a language without first having learned it. The speaker was easily understood by anyone who knew that language, the first occurrence was on Pentecost. God gave this gift so that early Christians could spread the Gospel without foreign language being an obstacle.

    Bless you.
  • Kay - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Forgive me; I worded that badly Linda. I knew what I meant..but didn't say it rightly. Yes, Peter denied the Lord 3 times in a row...but at the same event. The event was singular, not the denial! Forgive me for any confusion on that point.

    Isn't it amazing that in Mark 16:7, Jesus tells Mary to "go tell My disciples, and Peter.."...because Jesus the Good Shepherd knew that Peter needed the assurance of His repentance. INDEED, it can be so that tears don't mean a THING as to repentance, but in Peter's case, they DID! From the point of His tears forward, He was devoted to Christ, even unto death. And we mustn't forget in John 21, Jesus perfectly reclaims Peter and commissions him to go feed Christ's sheep! Jesus does not send devils out to the ministry! OHHH the Love of Christ...that saves us to the UTTERMOST of our heinous sins!

    Oh Linda.. I have been a slow learner many times. It has happened to me as the psalm says, i.e., I have fallen SEVEN times"....but got up again because of GRACE! I've fallen on my face more than Peter's three times, but I KNOW I am forgiven, born from above, and have the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, all because of the grace of God in Christ Jesus!

    My failures have made me more watchful, and more humble, and more ready to be forgiving and patient with others.

    Gigi said a right thing: we can judge NO man's heart! That is Christ's jurisdiction alone, but but BUT we CAN and are instructed to judge the fruit. The fruit between Judas and Peter is entirely different one from another.

    May the Lord help us all grow into Christ and His Word more and more! Amen!
  • Linda - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    Yes! You are Correct.

    The 7th Trumpet Will Sound First.

    Then The Dead In Christ Shall Rise (Come Out Of) Their Graves.

    And They (The Risen Dead) Shall Appear Unto Many Of Us. Matt.27:53

    Then: We which Are Alive And Remain (On The Earth):

    Shall Be Caught Up (In Excitment) Together With Them In The Clouds.

    In The Clouds? Ezek.3816 / Hebrew.12:1 / Isaiah 60:8

    Who Are These that Fly As A Cloud To Their Windows?

    God Likens People To Clouds.

    So: We (Clouds) Shall Be Caught Up (In Excitement) Together With Those

    (Clouds) Who Have Risen Out Of Their Graves And Walk Among Us.

    And We Will All Meet The Lord In The Air.

    In The Air? (In The Air Waves) In Cyber Space.

    Back To Isaiah 60:8 Who Are These That Fly As A Cloud To Their Windows?

    Their Windows?

    Their Computer Screens: Windows 9 / Windows 10 / Windows 11

    Who Are They That Fly (Rush / Hurry) To Their Windows?

    They Are God's Children Who Are Eagerly Waiting For Their Lord's Return To Earth.

    Jesus is Going To Come Back "To" The Earth. He Is "Not Going To Hover" In The Heavens "And Wait" For All Of His Children To Fly Up To Where He Is.

    And So (In This Way) Shall We Ever Be With The Lord.

    In This Way? (Via Internet) Every Eye Shall See Him.

    Re: Rapture? Nothing But Wishful Imaginations.

    It Is Written in Hebrews 9:27

    It Is Appointed Unto Men (People) Once To Die;

    But After This The Judgement.

    No-One Can Escape Their God-Given Appointment With Death.

    Matt.24:13 / Mark 13:13

    Ye Shall Be Hated Of All Men For My Name's Sake:

    But He That Shall Endure (Persecution) Unto The End (Unto Death),

    The Same Shall Be Saved.

    Rev.6:11 White Robes were Given Unto Every One Of Them; And It was Said Unto Them, That They Should Rest Yet For A Little Season,

    Until Their Fellowservants Also And Their Brethren, That Should Be Killed As They Were, Should Be Fulfilled.

    2 Thess.2:3 Let No Man Deceive you By Any Means:

    For That Day Shall Not Come, Except There Be A Falling Away First.
  • ELB - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    Brother Mike W:

    The first resurrection occurred at Christ resurrection.

    John 11:25 ....I am the resurrection....

    Ephesians 1:5 Having predestinated us into the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, ACCORDING TO the good pleasure of HIS WILL.

    John 15:16 Ye have not CHOSEN ME, But I have CHOSEN YOU .....

    All is the WORK'S OF GOD, man just receives the GIFT.

    Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is given, on the behalf of Christ, not ONLY TO BELIEVE on him, but also to suffer for his sake,

    1 Corinthians 4:7 For who maketh thee to be different from another? and what hast thou that ye did not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why does thou glory, as if thou received it not?

    You begin life with a mind of FLESH, if you have your part in the first resurrection, your mind of FLESH IS BEHEADED, and replaced with the mind of Christ.

    All the WORK'S OF GOD.

    GBU
  • ELB - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    Brother Mike W, when did the first resurrection occur?
  • Mike W. - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    One more verse for further confirmation:

    "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years" ( Revelation 20:4-6, KJV).

    Sequence of Events:

    1. The first resurrection (this includes people who are killed during the tribulation for not worshipping the beast or

    receiving his mark).

    2. Those, who are resurrected, reign 1000 years with Christ.

    3. The rest of the dead rise after the 1000 is finished.

    4. The second death (for those who are not a part of the first resurrection).

    Timing: Begins after the people are beheaded for their witness of Jesus, and for not worshipping the beast or receiving his mark, but before the thousand-year reign of Christ.

    Here we can clearly see that there will be people who have been executed during the tribulation present at the first

    resurrection. This can only occur if the resurrection occurs after the tribulation. These are the people who reign with Christ for a thousand years. If there is a pre-tribulation rapture, then these people are raised before the first official resurrection, they may not reign with Christ, and they may even be subject to the second death! Clearly, a pre-tribulation rapture requires that these verses must either be refuted or ignored.
  • Mike W. - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    Allow me to continue...

    "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign forever and ever. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth" (Revelation

    11:15-18, KJV).

    Sequence of Events:

    1. The seventh (last) trumpet of the tribulation sounds.

    2. The earthly reign of Christ begins.

    3. The time of the dead (resurrection).

    4. Prophets and saints judged for rewards.

    5. Those who destroy the earth are destroyed.

    Timing: Beginning with the seventh trumpet of the tribulation. The seventh and final trumpet of the period of the tribulation is sounded and the reign of Christ begins on earth. At this time, the resurrection and judgment of the saints occurs - after the

    tribulation. This seems to confirm our previous conclusion.
  • Replying - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    Luke 22.30

    that ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    Matthew 19.28 ( says it again )
  • Bill - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    If some one can show from scriptures that Jesus is coming 3 times ? Then maybe the error of pretrib rapture should be considered. But it's not there .

    Jesus answered the questions about the end times . In Matthew 24 , and Luke 21 . Check it out .

    Compare to revelation as well .

    1 st reserrection fits the rapture perfectly.
  • Whitehat - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    I believe you got it right Mike .

    God only has one house hold of people .

    Only two class of people his sheep and the goats .

    The 12 apostles will rule over the 12 tribes of Israel ! Really . The lamb and God himself will be the light for his people .

    Can't remember where I read it about the 12 apostles ruling the 12 tribes , that's church leaders over the Jews . The 12 apostles are the foundation of the CHURCH and Christ being the chief corner stone .

    Amen
  • Jesse - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    Mike,

    I am not trying to sway you one way or another about pre/mid/or post tribulation rapture because it's not a salvation issue. But I would like to comment on this section in Matthew you are sharing. There are two words I'm focusing on in those verses, tribes, and elect.

    Now the word "tribes" is very important. That tells us that we are talking about Jewish people. It is a Jewish term. All the tribes of the earth shall mourn. And they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. All the tribes!



    Again, that would be Jews.



    In Revelation Chapter 1 Verse 7, it tells us that every eye will see Him, even those who have pierced Him.



    Zechariah Chapter 12 Verse 10 is a prophecy that the Jews hold to, only they don't understand its application. It says that when Messiah comes, they will look upon Him whom they have pierced.



    So at this time when Christ comes, at His second coming, the Jews who are left on the earth, they are going to mourn, and they are going to look and go "Oh no, we crucified our Messiah, and here He is!"

    They are going to recognize Him. And we see a few verses later that the Lord's going to round them all up.

    It says the great Shofar will blow, and the Lord will gather His people from the four corners of the earth. So that is very important because that's a prophecy that the Jews looked for.



    Verse 31 says He is going to gather them together, his elect, (that would be the Jews), from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other, north, south, east, and west.

    So those two words (tribes and elect) tell me that this is not the church Jesus is talking about.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    Revelation 8, - Revelation 9, - Revelation 10, note there are 7 angels with seven trumpets Revelation 8:2-6, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, & 4th angels "sounded" their trumpets in Rev. 8, Revelation 8:7,8,10,12, & warns of the final 3. Revelation 8:13, "And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabitants of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound"

    The 5th & 6th angels sound in Rev. 9, Revelation 9:1,13, It's not until Revelation 10, the 7th will sound Revelation 10:7,

    1Corinthians 15:52, Jeremiah 4:13, Daniel 7:13, Zephaniah 1, Zephaniah 1:15,16, Amos 5:18-20, Matthew 24:3-51, Mark 13:4-37, Revelation 1:7, Mark 14:60-62, Matthew 26:62-64, Revelation 10:1-7, Revelation 14,

    1Thessalonians 1:9,10, 1Thessalonians 2:19, John 17, 1Thessalonians 3:4, 1Thessalonians 4:13-18, 1Thessalonians 5, 2Thessalonians 1, 2Thessalonians 2, 2Timothy 2, 2Timothy 3, 2Timothy 3:12, 2Timothy 4:1-8, Titus 2:13-15, 2Peter 2:4-9, 2Peter 3:9-18,

    Hopefully these are helpful to this discussion
  • Daniel - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    Agreed. We know it will happen regardless. Why is the church so divided on this? I believe pre-trib rapture and have read through over 28 verses distinguishing it from the second coming or other replacement theology. But, I've debated this and those convinced by a doctrine otherwise simply won't listen; therefore... I no longer debate this to avoid discord.
  • Mike w. - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    Jesus himself explains to His disciples

    what to expect in the end times. There are two sets of verses regarding Jesus explanation:

    "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn,

    and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other" ( Matthew 24:29-31, KJV).

    Sequence of Events:

    1. The Tribulation ends.

    2. Sun, moon darkened - stars fall.

    3. The sign of the Son of man seen - Son of man

    coming.

    4. Angels sent with sound of trumpet.

    5. Elect gathered from four winds (earth) and one end of heaven to the other.

    Timing: The coming of the Son of man and his gathering of the elect follows the darkness at the end of the tribulation.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    I would like to comment on 1 Corinthians 15:51-52. Paul says, "behold, I shew you a mystery;" First of all: we shall not all sleep. The word sleep is the Christian term for death, because the body is only be buried in the ground temporarily. The physical body has the appearance of sleeping. Once a person separates from the body, it's called death.

    We shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed. It tells us in Verse 52 how fast this will happen. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet:

    Fascinating statements! The word moment (ATOMA) in Greek is the word for atom. What he's saying is that it will be so fast, (less than a millisecond). The atom cannot be split, so he says it's that short of a time. You can't even split the second that it's going to take for this to happen! It's in the twinkling of an eye, not blinking of an eye, but twinkling of an eye, the sparkle. And it's at the last trumpet.

    Many believe that this will occur after the seventh trumpet blast in the book of Revelation. And that seventh trumpet blast introduces the second coming of Christ. So they say it is at that last trumpet.

    But if we understand "Biblish" which is bible English or bible language, the seventh trumpet is not the last trumpet. It's the seventh trumpet! It's the last of the seven. This one here is specifically the last trumpet for the call. In fact, it is the same trumpet mentioned in 1 Thessalonians Chapter 4 about the rapture because he says "For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised."

    By the way, that trumpet is not going to be some trumpet player. In the Hebrew, it's the word Shofar. It is a ram's horn. They blow them even in Israel today for the gathering of the armies. It's sounded from the top of the temples for the priests to come to their daily duties at the temple.

    So this shofar will sound, the dead shall be raised incorruptible, not in their corruptible body, but a new body incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    Hi Mike.

    Some do a lifetime of study and debates on such topics for hobby, I agree with Brother Adam. Be ready.

    God bless.
  • Adam - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    Whether pre or post-tribulation view we will find out when it occurs. Either way we already know how to prepare and what to do during our short time on earth. Some get really into such debates and I think the first part of Titus 3:9 may be applicable. God bless.
  • Mike w. on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    What Do the Scriptures Really Say About the Rapture?

    To get an understanding that comes from God's Word and not from our own expectations of God's plan, we need to see what each scriptural reference is really talking about. We also need to establish what events take place for each verse and when they occur.

    Let's start with the favorite verse quoted to support the rapture of the church at the start of the tribulation.

    "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words"

    ( I Thessalonians 4:16-18, KJV).

    Sequence of Events:

    1. The Lord descends.

    2. A shout, voice, trump.

    3. The dead rise.

    4. The living caught up.

    Timing: Nothing specifies a particular time for these events. In this verse we found nothing conclusive to be used to identify the specific time when the rapture might occur except that it follows the Lord's descent from heaven and the sounding of the trumpet of God. Let's take a look at another very popular verse about the rapture of the church:

    "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we

    shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed"

    ( I Corinthians 15:51,52, KJV).

    Sequence of Events:

    1. The trumpet sounds.

    2. The dead rise.

    3. The living changed.

    Timing: Begins with the "last trump". The trump identified as the "last trump" seems to be the cause of these events. This appears to indicate that other trumpets will sound before this one, but none after it. Could this be the final (seventh) trumpet

    found in Revelation? If so, that would put it at or near the end of the tribulation.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 4 years ago
    This morning I thought more on Lazarus & the parable of Lazarus, in thinking about it: maybe the parable/story was also about how the "Rich" in scriptural knowledge, not sharing or helping while Lazarus had "wounds the dogs would._." alone in his suffering, while the other had historical words of hope, healing, redemption, deliverance.

    Just thinking: even though Lazarus in real life may not have been financially poor, his sister had been tormented by 7 demons, in front of the ' religious ' for they judged her openly, Lazarus who dwelt with his sister/s suffered.

    Jesus walks in, delivers, redeems, forgives, restores & teaches GOD's words. Mark 16:9, Luke 5:17, Luke 5:29-32, Mark 2:14-17, Matthew 9:10-13, Luke 8:2, Mark 16:9,

    John 11:2, John 12:1-11, Luke 7:36-50, Luke 8:2, believing Mary to be Mary Madgelene, & reading John 11:2, (as the only time Jesus feet were anointed with oil, & wiped by a Mary's hair)

    Luke 16, interestingly in the Parable/story the "rich" man cried "Father Abraham, have mercy._.._" & "if they hear not Moses an the Prophets._."

    John 11, & John 12,
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 6:13 - 4 years ago
    Reading, Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7, Romans 2:8,

    "believer" Mark 16:16-18, Luke 8, John 1:12, John 6:64, John 7:5, John 12:23-50, John 17, Romans 4, 1Thessalonians 2:13, Hebrews 11:6, James 2, James 2:19, Romans 1, through Romans 2, Romans 6,

    * 1Peter 4, 1Peter 4:17,

    Hope these are helpful
  • T Levis - In Reply on Luke 21 - 4 years ago
    Hello, Michael R. Piland,

    Praying in tongues biblical? Yes! & yes. Please don't let people tell you what the Bible says, & teach you. Scripture says if you lack wisdom ask GOD. James 1:5, here are relevant scriptures:

    * Mark 16:17, in context, Mark 16, Acts 2, Acts 10, Acts 19:6, 1Corinthians 13,

    * 1Corinthians 12, * 1Corinthians 14,
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Mark 16 - 4 years ago
    This website has a free download of the KJV,
  • Hector Rodriguez on Mark 16 - 4 years ago
    Who was Jesus talking to when he talked about the drunkenness
  • Cris pascubillo on Mark 16 - 4 years ago
    can i request a king james bible so i can use for study thanks god bless
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hey Tom,

    This is my understanding; All Israel was looking for the Messiah when He first came to deliver Israel from all oppressors and lead them into a new golden age. We see this as the question the disciples asked Jesus in Matthew 24:3. Jesus' purpose of His first coming was hidden from them, even the Apostles and John, Luke 18:31-34. They even asked Jesus right before He ascended, if He was going to set up the kingdom then, Acts 1:6.

    We see how distraught all were when Jesus was crucified and they did not even believe Mary when she told them He had resurrected, Mark 16:10-14. They were confused and had doubts because they were looking for Him to set up the kingdom then. John probably had these same thoughts when he saw what Jesus was doing because it didn't look like Jesus was moving to deliver the people from the Roman rule and set up the kingdom.

    No one could know, because Satan could not know this part of God's plan, it was still a mystery.

    Just my understanding

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Mishael - In Reply on Mark 16 - 4 years ago
    Between the close of the Old Testament, was 490 years of silence from Heaven.

    Then in Matthew and Luke, we see it is time for Jesus to come into the world.


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