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It says "they will" not you!?

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These are those who were "SENT" to preach the gospel, "How beautiful are the feet of "THEM" that PREACH the GOSPEL of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!" ( Romans 10:15). Jesus Christ was SENT because HE preached the gospel ( Mark 1:15). Apostles and Disciples were SENT because they were ordained by our Lord Jesus Christ to preach the gospel to "EVERY CREATURE" ( Mark 16:15). Before I Lord Jesus Christ were taken up to heaven HE ordained "ALL NATIONS" to OBSERVE ALL THINGS HE COMMANDED ( Matthew 28:19-20). THEREFORE, The "SPIRIT OF THE LORD" SENT JESUS CHRIST TO PREACH THE GOSPEL ( Luke 4:18) and then JESUS CHRIST SENT APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES, AND ALL NATIONS TO PREACH THE GOSPEL. SO, If you heard the gospel from WHOEVER that BAPTIZED you in the NAME of the FATHER, AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST, then you MUST OBSERVE ALL THINGS whatsoever Jesus commanded, and that INCLUDES preaching the gospel to EVERY CREATURE in ALL NATIONS. Then, you are SENT.

Doesnt this disolve the curse in genesis now that jesus has been resrrurected. In other words it is an example that the laws established then have been disolved and being struck on the heal will no longer hold its power

"These signs shall follow them that believe" "The shall speak with new tongues".I can praise the Lord I have been bought up in a spirit filled family knowing the truth and was encouraged to seek for the holy spirit. I received when I was around 9, and I knew that I did because I speak in tongues. It is an actual language given to you by the Lord. It also confirms this all through acts 2 it describes the day of pentecost when the Lord release this

Its easy to see how well all the verses harmonize together. Mark 16:16, He who believes and is baptized shall be saved... Acts 2:38 And Peter said unto them repent and be baptized everyoneof you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins..... Romans 6:1-6 says we are "Buried with him by baptism into death." But then you get to verses like Eph. 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith... That is excatly right. Faith leads us to repentance. We confess Christ because of our faith. Romans 10:9 Faith makes us do all these things. We are buried with him in baptism and raised THROUGH FAITH. Col 2:12

To: Mark Hudson: ...to the FIRST argument it is NOT true that some will be saved BY His Name "alone" (JESUS)... ...Jesus Christ himself said that he who believed the gospel and is baptised shall be SAVED ( Mark 16:15-16) and it is the baptism in the NAME of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost ( Matthew 28:19)... ...therefore to say that we shall be saved by the name (JESUS) "alone" is contrary to what was written in the bible.

(This is my response to Lurline's comment dated 9/15/2013 at 5:20pm on Chapter 15 about verse 4):

God is a JUST GOD. He will NOT let it happen that His words shall NOT make known unto ONE flesh before the end come...In the last days, God shall pour out His Spirit upon ALL flesh ( Acts 2:17)...To pour out His Spirit means to make known His words ( Proverbs 1:23)...This shall be done after the gospel shall be preached to ever creature ( Mark 16:15-16) in all nations ( Matthew 28:9-20)...in all the world, and then shall the end come ( Matthew 24:14).

jesus said they will not harm you.....nothing can

To Ock:...that is a very BRILLIANT question... The AUTHORITY to SENT someone to PREACH the GOSPEL is in this wise:...from "GOD" who sent Jesus Christ ( John 17:8) with the "Spirit of the Lord" who anointed him to PREACH the GOSPEL to the poor( Luke 4:18-21)...THEN...from "our Lord Jesus Christ" who sent his disciples to PREACH the GOSPEL to "every creature" ( Mark 16:15)...THEN...from "apostles" who were commanded by our Lord Jesus Christ to teach "all nations" to observe ALL THINGS whatsoever he (Jesus) have commanded them (apostles) ( Matthew 28:19-20)...THEN...if YOU "heard the PREACHING of the GOSPEL" from "ANY CREATURE in ANY NATION" and "you believed it" and "you were baptized in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost"...THEN...YOU are also being SENT to PREACH the GOSPEL...and has the authority to SENT those "who believed and were baptized" to PREACH the GOSPEL to every creature in all nations...and that is Romans 10:15 all about...

Disciples of God believed that GRACE and PEACE are from GOD OUR FATHER and the LORD JESUS CHRIST(1-Thessalonians 1:1)...NOT from Jesus Christ ONLY...Since the ELECTION OF GOD is by the GOSPEL which the disciples preached ( Mark 16:15-16)and it came to us in WORD, in POWER, in HOLY GHOST (1-Thessalonians 1:4-5)...which we received after BAPTISM in the NAME of the FATHER, and of the SON (WORD - John 1:1,14), and of the HOLY GHOST ( Matthew 28:19-20) and these three are one (1- John 5:7) which is the mystery of godliness (1-Timothy 3:16) in the HOUSE OF THE GOD, the CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD, the PILLAR AND GROUND OF THE TRUTH(1-Timothy 3:15)

I took it to be the disciples who he was speaking to that could take up serpents and drink poison. The ones that believed (because at first they did not believe it was he). "They went out" It doesn't say do this in church.

I so much love Mark chapter 16:18 "If they drink any deadly thing,it shall not hurt them,they shall LAY HANDS ON THE SICK AND THEY SHALL RECOVER" am a practical witness because i hv used this verse to heal the sick. Inorderwords, the promises/words of God is the truth and effective to them that believe.

To those that believe,they shall lay hands upon the sick and they shall recover. I have seen many good Christians do this yet the person still died. Why?

I BELIEVE.

I, LOVE IT, I, BELIEVE!!! (IN JESUS, NAME, AMEN)!!!

"God's right hand" is a statement that has confused many about the status of Jesus. It is a metaphoric or Heberic way of saying that Jesus is the personality through whom God saves us. It is like this: They asked God in the Old Testament how he delivered his people. He replied that he delivered them by his strong right hand.

It is like a fighter saying that he defeated his opponent by using his strong right hand. So the strong right hand becomes symbolic of the fighter himself. So saying that Jesus sits at God's right hand, or is God's right hand, is saying that Jesus is God.

The Jews knew this. That's why the High Priest got angry and accused Jesus of blasphemy. He knew Jesus was making his claim that he was God.

verse 17.They shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover they shall speak with new tongues. I believe new tongues refers to the baptism of the Holy Spirit as found in the book of Acts. When they received the Holy Spirit, they spoke with new tongues as the spirit gave the utterance. Not everybody who received the Holy Spirit in the book of Acts did so by the laying on of the hands.

It tests faith of those who believe in him and shows how Jesus keeps his promises. I love this chapter so much. Its a spritual remedy!

Patricia The lord always consider you first. Throughout the many generations Men have had many concepts of who are how we got here. But God spends quality time focuson on whats most important like the state of mind or condition of others. He walks in the this peace that surp***es all understanding and that why he uses certian terminology alone with a certian type of contextual setting.

I believe if it in the Bible it's true. I would not want to test my faith by holding a snake or by drinking something, but if it's in the Book I believe it. I don't understand all of the comments but I disagree with some of them. And I believe He was raised just like it says.

Mark 16:8 is where Mark ends. Compare 16:1 with 16:9 of the Biblica Sacra Vulgata Clementine 1592; 16 1 Et cum transisset sabbatum, Maria Magdalene, et Maria Jacobi, et Salome emerunt aromata ut venientes ungerent Jesum. 9 Surgens autem mane prima sabbati, apparuit primo Mariæ Magdalene, de qua ejecerat septem dæmonia. Two different time zones, "He is risen is one thing", using a "tardis" is another thing altogether. So verse 9-20 did not exist in the Codex Sinaiticus. Secondly, it was written in a style of 4th century Latin, or by someone who wrote Latin in a country that was never ruled by Rome thereby never having learned the difference between medieval and late Latin.

Not only did jesus say I am the way the truth and the life no man cometh to the father but by me. this lines up with John 10:9 where jesus says Im the door by me if any man enter he shell be saved and go in and out and find pasture.Also John 6:44, Mark 16:16,and Acts 2:38 So through his resurrection [JESUS] We live through baptism in the name of jesus christ we die to sin. Rom 6:6 Rom 14:7 Gal 2:20 And 2Cor 5:15 never forget Eph 5:2 therefor as 2Cor 2:14,15.

I accept Mark's instructions as being for the Apostles’ only regarding the snakes and poison. Wade's comment about women not being allowed to go to the grave on the Sabbath, the Sabbath was ended when they went there on Sunday morning. The Jewish Sabbath, then as now, started at sundown Friday evening and ended at sundown Saturday evening.

@Saleem,
We have two kinds of baptism:
1. Baptism of water (which is the first after people have received the word);
2. Baptism of the holy spirit. I want say it clear that all believers must be baptized of water and of holy spirit. If you are only baptized of water (that is not enough) read Acts 1:5, Acts 19:1-6, and Acts 2. Some people think by praying for themselves they can be baptized of the holy ghost, NO . One needs to be laid hands on the head by the apostles, then will he/she be baptized. As same applies when one person is baptized of water, no one goes to the river by himself and deep himself in water, then comes out and say I am baptized, no. But one needs an authorized person/pastor to deep him/her in water and get baptized. Also in baptism of the holy ghost, only the apostles today can baptize people of the holy spirit. AND MANY PEOPLE TODAY ARE BAPTIZED OF WATER, I Thank God for the baptism of the holy spirit offered to him by his apostles and I pray that all people could be baptized.

If baptism isn't important to be saved then why does Christ say it is so often in the scriptures? Because it is very important.
Mark 16:16 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 11:16 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

Luke 3:21 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,

Matthew 20:23 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

Acts 1:5 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

Romans 6:3 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

1 Corinthians 1:16 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.

Matthew 20:22 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.

Mark 10:39 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized:

Matthew 3:14 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

Mark 10:38 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?

Acts 22:16 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

I think that Mark 16 ended at verse 8. The following verses are contradictory to the previous sentence that ended verse 8. The girls, the two Mary's, remained silent out of fear. They were right to be fearful for it was illegal for women to visit the tomb on the Sabbath. But the consequences of these inauthentic verses (9-20) have led to many misconceptions that have caused many deaths. The deaths of Christian snake handlers and poison drinkers who took the verses to be true on "faith", and paid the ultimate price for the Christian scribes that added these verses, to further their ends in proselytizing the would be converts to the Christian religion for their own personal agendas. If it's a known fact it's illegitimate than it should be stricken from all versions of the bible and the public, Christians or otherwise should receive an apology from the Catholic Church, and any other denomination that had anything to do with the treacherous forgery. DO NOT HANDLE DEADLY SNAKES OR INGEST POISONOUS CONCOCTIONS OF ANY KIND, WITH OR WITHOUT FAITH. That is my opinion and I am not alone.

The apostle Paul said that he preached the Word of God with boldness. It is with this same boldness I now speak. I am in awe and, at the same time, fury over the comments I have read on this website. Why people do not take the word for what it says in its ENTIRETY, I will never understand. I want to address multiple comments in this post, so please read my post knowing it is in sincerity and in the love of Christ that I write.
First, I would like to talk about those who say that baptism does not consist of water. Baptism is derived from the Greek word "baptizo" which means "immersion." Now, I ask, in what are we immersed? A prime example of immersion takes place in Acts 8, when Philip is called by the Spirit to go and explain the scripture to the Ethiopian eunuch. Philip “preached unto him Jesus” ( Acts 8:35). It continues, “And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, if thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down BOTH into the water, BOTH Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him” ( Acts 8:36-38). How did the eunuch know that he needed to be baptized? Because Philip preached unto him Jesus. Jesus is the word; therefore we must take ALL of the word – not some of it only to make it say we want it to say. Jesus said in Mark 16:16, “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned”. Jesus thought baptism to be important enough to mention it as part of his last words on earth. Don’t you think that means it’s pretty significant? Shouldn’t it be easy enough just to say “well, Jesus said it, so I am going to do it”? I would think so. But so many denominations have taken the precious word of God and twisted it so it fits what they want it to. Matthew 28:19 says, “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost”. Jesus was talking to the apostles here who were men. Men cannot baptize in the Holy Ghost. Only God can baptize in the Holy Ghost. So this proves that it HAD to be water baptism.
Secondly, I have heard so much about the “thief on the cross” that I am seriously sick. I am sick of people AGAIN not interpreting the Bible for what it says. Let’s look at the setting of Calvary and the conversation that took place between Jesus and this thief. First, Jesus was still alive when this all took place. THE OLD LAW WAS STILL IN EFFECT. Jesus’ blood had not been shed yet; therefore, baptism was not in effect yet and would not be until the day of Pentecost. When Jesus died and fulfilled the Old Law, the New Law entered into effect. And if it were not enough that the Old Law was still in effect, he was Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and could do what he wanted to do. He forgave sins long before the thief on the cross. What about Zacchaeus ( Luke 19:9)? What about the woman who anointed Jesus’ feet with oil ( Luke 7:48)? Both of these were granted salvation by Jesus, yet you don’t hear people basing their salvation off them! Jesus did not tell the man that his sins were forgiven. Jesus told the thief he would be with Him in paradise. Paradise. Not Heaven. Now, granted, no one knows what paradise was, but I think it possible to be the place where Jesus went during the three days after his crucifixion. 1 Peter 3 says that, “he went and preached to the spirits in prison”. Maybe this was the paradise in which Jesus spoke of. If I could I would list all the examples of baptism in the New Testament as “what now saves us”, 1 PETER 3:21. But I do not have enough time nor space in which to write. It is my earnest prayer that you study your Bible. Please read it with an open mind and take it LITERALLY and not interpret it. Do NOT take another man’s word for what it says. Read it and believe it by yourself.

Shalom! There is a first Sabbath (protos sabbaton) in Mark 16:9, translated "the first day of the week". But sabbaton is in the singular and therefore refers to a Sabbath day and not a week. This first Sabbath is the weekly Sabbath, counted 7 other ones till Pentecost. By the way the Lord is risen on the first Sabbath and not on Sunday. There is a mia sabbaton, which is in plural and refers to the 7 weeks ( Leviticus 23:15), this refers to the Sunday in Matthew 28:1, Luke and John. But a singular sabbaton refers always to a Sabbath day, as in Luke 6:1.

Verses 17-20 - A little lesson on finding scripture truth in the age of grace (church age) when reading and comprehending the gospels:
1. The apostle Paul is the apostle to the gentiles, church age Christians ( Acts 9:15, Romans 11:13);
2. We must use Paul as our checks and balance to reach doctrinal truth for Christians in the church age, which means if a person is not sure about a verse knowing who the writer is (Jew) writing to Jews, Gentiles, or both and always what time (age )is the writer referring to;
3. We must always refer to what the Pauline epistles says about the subject in question;
4. In these verses, what Paul says aids us to come to the correct truth. "Signs are for the Jews ( 1 Corinthians 1:22);
5. In Mark 16:15 them=apostles and there are two separate commissions given:
a. Verse 16, the charge to go out and be a soul winner (great commission);
b. Verses 17 and 18, this commission is for apostles only (apostolic commission), how do we know this, because of the term signs are only for the Jews and no one else in the gospels ever was given the sign gifts except the Jewish disciples (apostles) and was given by Jesus himself not just the holy spirit.
6. So if you are a gentile believer and think you can handle deadly serpents and drink deadly things and not die. I can tell you of true accounts where gentile believers did these things and died. Because these gifts are for handpicked Jews by Jesus only and will not be seen again until the tribulation age when God is dealing with the Jews for the second time, to receive Jesus as their messiah. Gentiles seek wisdom=word of God ( 1 Corinthians 1:22), start 2 Timothy 2:15.

The Scripture says these SIGNS Shall follow them that “BELEIVE"! Not just the Disciples, BUT them that BELIEVE.