I also knew someone who was somewhat overweight, not obese, though; they too changed their diet and were cured of type 2 diabetes.
The Lord still is the "Lord Who heals us"! If we all think about it, it's staggering to think of the many sicknesses we've recovered from, and of the many injuries we've sustained that have mended! God has healed us over and over! It's NOT the treatment or medication that saves us! They could not help us without God using them to help us! Praise the Lord.
At the same time, I know many people who are struggling with health issues who have not been healed..yet. But they WILL be, either here or in heaven! :) One day there will be NO sickness, no pain, no sorrow, no struggle, not battles as we have now. Above all, we will be forever in our Father's house, and behold the face of Jesus, and follow Him wherever He goes! We have EVERYTHING to look forward to, all because of Jesus! Praise the Lord!
Matthew 4:23, Matthew 9:35, Luke 9:1,2,11, 1Corinthians 12, Psalms 6:2, Matthew 10:1,8, Mark 9:23, Mark 9:14-29, Mark 16:17-18,
I have also noticed the Laws given Moses in Deuteronomy, Leviticus, etc. about what GOD said not to eat many of those proven to causes of health problems. I know someone that changed diet & cured her diabetes.
The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram. And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash.
Genesis 22:21
Huz his firstborn, and Buz his brother, and Kemuel the father of Aram,
Numbers 23:7
And he took up his parable, and said, Balak the king of Moab hath brought me from Aram, out of the mountains of the east, saying, Come, curse me Jacob, and come, defy Israel. [Moab is east of Israel]
1 Chronicles 1:17
The sons of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram, and Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Meshech.
1 Chronicles 2:23
And he took Geshur, and Aram, with the towns of Jair, from them, with Kenath, and the towns thereof, even threescore cities. All these belonged to the sons of Machir the father of Gilead.
1 Chronicles 7:34
And the sons of Shamer; Ahi, and Rohgah, Jehubbah, and Aram.
Matthew 1:3-4
And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
Luke 3:33
Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
Aram also known as Aramea, was a historical region including several Aramean kingdoms covering much of the present-day Syria, southeastern Turkey, and parts of Lebanon and Iraq
Aram, Ancient country, Middle East, southwestern Asia. It extended eastward from the Anti-Lebanon Mountains to beyond the Euphrates River.
So the bands from Aram stopped raiding Israel's territory. Some time later, Ben-Hadad king of Aram mobilized his entire army and marched up and laid siege to Samaria.
Today it's part of Syria Jordan Israel Lebanon.
You'll have to Google ancient Bible Maps to see the areas described.
That is a great question. I did not know the answer, but I did an internet search and found this. I cannot confirm the accuracy, but here's what I found:
There were 7 people named JUDAS in The Bible.
1. An ancestor of Jesus ( Luke 3:30-31)
2. "Judas the Galilean"mentioned by Gamaliel at the Sanhedrin. ( Acts 5:37)
3. One of the 12 apostles (aka: Thaddaeus-"son of James") ( Luke 6:16)
4. Judas Iscariot who betrayed Jesus. ( Mark 3:19)
5. One of Jesus' half-brothers. ( Matthew 13:55)
6. A man from Damascus (on the 'street called Straight') where Paul went after he was blinded ( Acts 9:11)
7. Judas (aka:Barsabbas)-who was called a prophet and a 'leading man' among the disciples, sent with Paul and Barnabas to deliver the letter on circumcision to Antioch and encourage the congregation ( Acts 15:22, 30-32)
Just to take this further, Jim. I'm assuming that you're referring to Luke 3:38: "Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God." To remain true to the original language, the phrase "the son" (wherever it appears in the reading), is not shown in Greek. Rather, it would read, "...of Enos, which was of Seth, which was of Adam, which was of God"; as it would similarly read for the others in that passage.
From research, one can learn that in these verses (vv24-38), the Greek word 'tou' (with the genitive) means 'belonging to'; though in Luke 3:22,23, the word 'Son' is definitely used. Why the translators chose to add "the son of" is known only to them, though I suspect that in almost all cases there was a clear line of humanity (of 'begetting') which they carried through to the beginning, that of Adam. And the fact that "the son" is shown in italics, indicates that they understood that it wasn't in the original language.
With that aside, the 1 Corinthians chapter 15 reference by the apostle, was to show that though both Adam & Christ were alike in their 'coming' from God, their origins were totally different. Adam was created from the dust of the earth - Christ created into humanity by the Spirit of God ( Luke 1:35). The first was a product of the earth - the second a product from Heaven. True, Jesus was humanly formed & birthed & that was so, for His Coming was to be understood from the Davidic line, fulfilling the prophecies that went before Him & of course, to lay down His Life as a Sacrifice for all.
Then to assert that "Adam is also God", would be false, as there was nothing about Adam's creation to indicate that another god was produced & then fell. But for Jesus, His Coming was from God's Presence & Being - entitling Him to be called the Son of God & also worshipped.
Luke 3:23 is the clearest reference to Christ's age when He began public ministry. That was the age; traditionally when according to 2 Samuel 5:4 David began to reign. We need to remember that Christ in all ways had to be as we were; but without sin. Obedience to parents meant that He grew in "wisdom and stature". He also "learned obedience" according to some other verses. How the incarnate Son of God became of "no reputation" in order to stand in and be our Redeemer may be beyond our comprehension; but it is so.
Christ would be of "no reputation" ( Philippians 2:7 etal). To be truly a Rabbi; He also was fulfilling an age requirement; as He was Prophet; King and Priest. When the Spirit came down on Him as a dove; and He went out thenceforth to be tempted of the Devil ( Matthew 4:1) then He began the inevitable course of ministry leading Him to the cross. This shows also the value of His family; as we can see when basically He told John to take care of His mother at the crucifixion. Nonetheless; at 12 years old He showed who He would become. It is certain that as John also indicated; that if everything were to be told of Him all the world's books couldn't contain it. It is also true that much spurious material of the sol called "missing years" were allowed by God so that only those who truly hear His voice would respond; and also foreknew the 66 books that would result in the accepted Canon. It doesn't deny that some truths exist that are pieces of the original text from Enoch's prophecy; for instance, nor make all of Satan's statements something we should follow; but ensures that they have been faithfully recorded.
We also have the Apostle Paul and what Christ said to him; as well as John at Patmos (not to mention Pentecost before He rose from the dead). There is also the "Cristophone" occuring with the Angel of God in the O.T. He is eternal; and now risen!
Here are scripture links about Jesus CHRIST ministry, the Bible however indicates HIS open ministry longer than a year on earth.
Luke 3:23, people take that scripture & add holidays & other events to draw a timeline.
It doesn't actually say that Jesus CHRIST ministry is/was limited to just those years of HIS open ministry because it's everlasting. Luke 1, John 1:1-5, Luke 2:42-50, John 8:58, 1Corinthians 15:47-58, Ephesians 3:9-11, Titus 3:7, John 3:15, Hebrews 5:9, Jude 1:21, Romans 6:23, Romans 5:21, John 17:3, 2Timothy 2:10, 2Corinthians 5:1, 1John 5:11, John 10:28, 1John 5:20,
To continue what Alex said: The HOLY Spirit : John 4:25, John 14, Luke 1, Luke 3:16,22, Luke 4, Luke 11:13, Acts 2, Mark 13:5-37, Luke 12:12, 2Timothy 1:7, Galatians 5,
- "Were the sons of god mentioned in the old testament the ones who went in unto the daughters of men and bred the giants (Nephelim)?"
Yes, see Genesis 6. It is plainly stated in v4. This is why God decides to destroy all flesh except Noah who is perfect (whole) in his gene-rations (DNA?). Also see Genesis 3:15 and notice there will be a serpent's seed and the woman's seed.
- "Now I know that angels cannot breed, so that rules them out."
The Bible says that the angels in HEAVEN are not given in MARRIAGE ( Matthew 22:30 & Mark 12:25). It does not say the angels do not have the ability to rebel (we know they do) and leave heaven to procreate with women on earth. Jude 4 references God punishing angels harshly who left their first estate (heaven) and own habitation. Why? Well, cross reference Genesis 6: they cohabitated or married and bore children with women against God's will. Remember the two seeds in Genesis 3?
- "The men who first began to call upon the name of the lord were called the sons of god. So could you clarify for me?"
Actually, this is a myth about the line of Seth. Genesis 4:25 mentions Seth having a son named Enos and then after that men began to call upon the name of the LORD. The Bible does not call them sons of God. Mankind lost that sonship when Adam sinned. It is only restored after the cross when one receives the Lord Jesus Christ ( John 1:12).
- So who does the Bible refer to as sons of God?:
"sons of God"
Referenced 5 times in the OT & is always a reference to heavenly beings directly created by God.
Referenced 6 times in the NT for the saved who are born of God.
"son of God" in Luke 3:38 is reference to Adam when he was created directly by God.
"Son of God" is references 46 times. 45 times in the NT for the Lord Jesus and once in the OT ( Daniel 3:25) is a reference to the Lord pre-incarnate.
There is only 3 in scripture that was created that bares this title
1) Angels.
Genesis 6:2.
Job 1:6.
2) Adam.
Luke 3:38.
We're not a "direct" creation. We're sons of Adam until Born again.
3) Those in Christ.
John 1:12.
We are a NEW creation in Christ.
That's why it's called a new birth. "Born again" properly translated, "Born from above."
With Adam being the first Man/Adam created, And then sinned, sin passed on to ALL Men, "Only if ALL Men came after Adam. The ONLY way redemption is available to ALL.
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 5:12.
To redeem, is to buy back!
When the Law came everyone in Adam spiritually died.
I believe physical death came by Adams transgression, spiritual death came by the giving of the law.
But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. Romans 5:15.
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 1 Corinthians 15:45-49.
If there were people created before Adam how can they be bought back when Adam transgression has no effect on them being they were never "In" Adam.
Note: Acts 17:26.
Genesis 5:1-2. connects Genesis 1:26-28.
and Genesis 2:7. and also cover the use of the name Adam used for both Adam and Eve.
Good question. Open your heart to GOD ALMIGHTY & allow Jesus CHRIST to be you're savior. The HOLY Spirit will guide you & teach you all truth. John 3:16-17,
Genesis 1:26-28, GOD created, multiple men & women to fill the earth, subdue tak dominion over the fish of the sea, cattle, birds of the air .
Then HE formed Man & breathed Life into him: Genesis 2:7, this is a special account because of the details Genesis 2:8,9,15, interesting that this man was alone, Gen 2:18-24 note: Genesis 4:16, they were already cast out of the garden, Cain left the 'Presence of the LORD'' it appears he left the Holy to dwell with the other men & women in a land called Nod. HOLY means set apart, Gen 4:17, then they built a city & named it. So Nod already existed. Then you have: Genesis 4:23-24 why isn't the killed man mentioned? If it was of the same parents? Therefore proving these are the other men & women Genesis 5:1-2, Genesis 4:26, Enoch the HOLY seed begins to call on GOD, "Son's of GOD" Gen 6:1-6, "Son of GOD" Jesus CHRIST Luke 3:23-38, Enos = Enoch, Romans 8:14.
Please don't believe evil lies. GOD says & our spirit testifys sin & perversion bad: Leviticus 20:17, & GOD doesn't lead us to sin : James 1:12-27, note: James 1:13-14,
It's interesting that you're noticing the differences, I'm guessing you've read Genesis before & studying or reading again or just very observant.
John 1:1-5, Revelation 4:10-11, Colossians 1:12-23, Ephesians 3:9, Revelation 10:1-7,
Note: Isaiah 42:1-12, Isaiah 42:23, compare: the Gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke & John,
There is a difference I believe because it seems to point out that man Adam being put into the Garden, symbolic of the Church. To tend it, where GOD seems to already have given the Genesis 1:27-28 'created female & males, direction to multiply & subdue take dominion over the earth & creatures land & sea. Genesis 2:7-8, Genesis 5:1-3, interestingly it is the lineage of Seth the Jesus comes through : Luke 3:23-38
Hi Gigi; I appreciate your response, however; I have understood the retoracle question in Hebrews 1:5 To which of the angels said God at any time, you are my son? This is actually saying God has never called angels sons of God, nor can they become sons of God, as I have previously stated only human beings can become sons of God, it is very clear in Luke 3:38 that Adam was the son of God. Adam was a human being, the genealogy from Adam unto the Lord Jesus, is a lineage of the sons of God, all those listed were sons of God. Now what we do know, is that the apostle Paul stated if a Christian is led by the Holy Ghost, he has matured to become a son of God. I understood your statement about things God has not revealed to us as of yet, this is very true, and we can be content in knowing only what God has revealed, for this reason I can say like Isaiah 28:9-10 a doctrine can only be created when you take line upon line, here a little, precept upon precept, and there a little, usingf this method we can assure ourselves we have arrived at good doctrine. Meaning look for all scriptures that teach sons of God, and see if at any time they refer unto angels, and you will discover what I also discovered, that no scripture refers unto angels as sons of God, only human beings are called sons of God. In conclusion, even Jesus took not upon himself the nature of angels to be called a son of God, but he took upon himself a human body, as the seed of Abraham. Hebrews 2:16
Mary was a virgin as prophesied when she conceived.
But it seems your concern was how did that play a role in the line of David right?
Mary was of the line of David also.
The Bible provides us with two lengthy genealogies of Christ. Matthew, as a Levite, focuses on the Messiahship of Jesus in that he traces the legal line from Abraham (thought to be the first Jew) through David, then Solomon and the royal line, to Joseph, the legal father of Jesus ( Matthew 1:1-17) and the husband of Mary. Luke, as a physician, focuses on the humanity of Jesus. He traces the blood line from Adam (the Son of God versus us, the sons of Adam) and once Luke gets to Abraham, the genealogy is identical to Matthew's up to the House of David. Then Luke goes from David, through Nathan (a different son of David) to Mary, the mother of Jesus ( Luke 3:23-38).
By this Jesus has the legal line as well the blood line and divinely avoid the curse pronounced on king Jeconiah in
Hi Gigi; I understand you are trying to quote Job 38:7 please read it with me, Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? KJB the morning stars here refer unto angels and the sons of God refer unto human beings. Therefore; this text is speaking about after man and angels were created, not before they were created. God never calls angels sons of God Hebrews 1:5 Knowing you must be a human being to become a son of God, like Adam Luke 3:38 or like Christians John 1:12 I believe the bible is revealing the angels were created after mankind, as in Genesis 2:8-9 as Adam was watching God create the trees from the garden of God, this was done after God created trees already on the third day and after he rested on the seventh day, meaning this word tree is metaphorical and are the angels, as the prophet Ezekiel reveals in 31:8-9
(3) Gentiles were not required, but had the privilege of, joining the Hebrew family via the proselytization process (cf. Acts 2:10; 13:16). Additionally, there were many instructions in Moses' law designed to benefit the "strangers" (Gentiles) who came among Israelite people ( Leviticus 19:33ff).
(4) The Lord sent Jonah to the Gentiles of Nineveh ( Jonah 3:1). Archer said that the theme of the book of Jonah "is that God's mercy and compassion extend even to the heathen nations on condition of their repentance" (1964, 295). Jonah is sometimes called "the first apostle to the Gentiles."
(5) Four Gentile women were woven into the genealogical fabric of the Messiah-Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, and Bathsheba-in both legal and biological senses ( Matthew 1:5-6; Luke 3:31-32).
(6) In addition, the prophets clearly revealed Jehovah's redemptive concern for the Gentiles, who were to be grafted into the New Testament church on an equal basis with the Jews ( Genesis 17:4; 22:18; Psalms 2:8; Isaiah 42:1, 6; 49:6; cf. Romans 11:1ff; Galatians 3:28; Ephesians 2:11ff).
Conclusion
There always has been a way for honest people to be right with their Creator-if they seek after him and choose to please him ( Acts 17:27ff). God so loved the entire world and gave his Son as a potential redeeming sacrifice for all who avail themselves of his gift ( John 3:16). He is the loving benefactor to everyone who submits to his will in faithful obedience ( 1 Timothy 2:4; Hebrews 5:8-9; cf. 2 Peter 3:9).
Article by Wayne Jackson.
I share this information for one to go over. I haven't had the time to do no more than glance over the beginning being I'm out town on business again.
Hopefully some others can share on this great question you asked.
Son's of GOD = 1 John 4:15, Galatians 4:7, 1 John 5:10, Ezra 3:2, Hebrews 12:7, Revelation 21:7, 1 Timothy 1:2, 1 Corinthians 6:2-3,
Jesus CHRIST the MESSIAH referred to the most as Son of GOD. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Hebrews, etc.
Luke 3:38,
* Romans 8:14, * Hebrews 1:13-14,
I understand "Son's of GOD presented themselves before GOD" to mean= they prayed notice Job 1:5, "offered burnt offerings" then vrs. 6._._._ the accuser came, Revelation 12:10,
Genesis 4:26, Luke 3:38,
Exodus 34:2, Leviticus 14:11, Leviticus 16:28, 1 Samuel 10:19, Daniel 9:18, Luke 2:22, Romans 12:1, Jude 1:24-25,
Please read Genesis 5:1-2, Genesis 1:26-30, here it states plural. It also reasonably suggests multiple to subdue the entire earth. Genesis 1:26, Genesis 1:28,
Genesis 2:15, was this a separated man? If GOD had already told mankind to subdue the entire earth? Would HE really take him then to dress & tend a special garden HE had made? Or is this symbolic of the Church._. Ezekiel 28:12-15, Ezekiel 31:8-9, Isaiah 58:11, Isaiah 61:11, Joel 2:3? Many times Jesus refers to the "vine dresser", the "stewards", seeds, etc. Luke 13:17, Luke 13:18-21, * John 15:1,5, & many times it's about unfaithfulness of that stewardship many times relating to the "Church" & those in charge. Luke 16:2, Ironic Jesus also being crucified by Garden, John 19:41, & where Jesus was betrayed, bound, taken captive, John 18:26,27, John 18:1-12,
Genesis 4:1-16, note Genesis 4:14,
Then you have an unreasonable fear of being killed by vengeance which was completely irrational if there was only Adam & Eve. There in that family -2 mourning the murdered child & 1 on the run. Then you have the outrageous idea that those same two parents would give a daughter to the murderer who already disregarded his brother's life to kill him. Gross, perverted imagination!! Genesis 4:16-17 then he built a city. Genesis 19:4-25, why isn't man killed mentioned? Then Seth's birth.
The importance of the lineage of Adam & Eve was it led to the Messiah Jesus CHRIST. Luke 3:22-38. Therefore when Eve is called the mother of all living CHRIST even addressed this as "let the dead bury the dead" pointing to spiritual death. Note it doesn't say Eve was of "life" it said mother of living._Genesis 3:20..Note also the day they would surely "die"! Genesis 2:17. Genesis 3:6-8, fear of (death?) eternal judgement? What happened? If it wasn't a spiritual death? Genesis 3:10, loss of fellowship, trust, intimacy even in marriage that's sometimes referred to "death, of the marriage"
I found your comments interesting. You mentioned the word trinity. Could you please show me where this word is used in the bible?
You mentioned John 5:18. Jesus never said he was God. The Jews said he made himself equal with God. Jesus then goes on to explain his standing with God.
Joh 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
You need to understand that our Lord Jesus is not the only Son of God. See Luke 3:38
In John 10:33 Jesus was again accused with making himself God. How did Jesus respond?
Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Jesus is directing them to Psalm 82. It is dealing with the rulers of the nation of Israel. They are called Gods.
This idea "Sons of God" is used a number of times in the New Testament. Here are some of them.
Joh_1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Rom_8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Php_2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
You said that it wasn't even in the shape of a dove but Luke 3:22 says that it was in the shape of a dove. Like I said before it was done that way to indicate the type of ministry Jesus Christ would have.
Hi GiGi. In my understanding of Luke 3:22 & other Gospels referring to the Holy Spirit's descent, each of them describe that vision "as a dove, or like a dove". I realize that it's popular to depict that event as an actual dove descending upon Jesus after His Baptism, but it would seem hard to believe that God would use an animal to represent Himself (e.g. Exodus 20:4; Romans 1:23). Rather, I believe that what the Gospel writers were describing, was the manner of the Spirit's descent, made visual by God for man to behold, & that descent was in the slow, gliding, maybe fluttering manner as of a dove. So, I don't see a picture of a bird here, rather an object of God's design, coming upon His Son as His witness for man's sake.
I would treat describing the Spirit appearing in that instance as a dove akin to us describing the other persons of the Godhead in picture or statue form. Just my thoughts on that time of Jesus' inauguration into ministry.
Genesis 1:26-27, Genesis 2:15,18,22,23, Genesis 3:20, Genesis 5:1-2, interesting it appears by this GOD called them Adam, it was man that named her "Woman & Eve"
Hopefully this is helpful
Through the Adam Genesis 4:25-26, Genesis 5:1-32, comes the line of the living, physically & Spiritualy, Matthew 1:1-16, Luke 3:23-38, John 1:1-5, John 3:15-16, Mark 12:27,
Where in the Bible is the genealogy Mary, Jesus' mother? To answer your question, we look at Matthew 1:1 -16 the genealogy of Jesus from Abraham to Joseph the husband of Mary the mother of Jesus. I believe this is the first record that tells Mary as Jesus' mother. The genealogy of Jesus in Luke 3: 23 -38 is to show man and woman that Jesus is the son of man.
The Lord still is the "Lord Who heals us"! If we all think about it, it's staggering to think of the many sicknesses we've recovered from, and of the many injuries we've sustained that have mended! God has healed us over and over! It's NOT the treatment or medication that saves us! They could not help us without God using them to help us! Praise the Lord.
At the same time, I know many people who are struggling with health issues who have not been healed..yet. But they WILL be, either here or in heaven! :) One day there will be NO sickness, no pain, no sorrow, no struggle, not battles as we have now. Above all, we will be forever in our Father's house, and behold the face of Jesus, and follow Him wherever He goes! We have EVERYTHING to look forward to, all because of Jesus! Praise the Lord!
I have also noticed the Laws given Moses in Deuteronomy, Leviticus, etc. about what GOD said not to eat many of those proven to causes of health problems. I know someone that changed diet & cured her diabetes.
Hopefully this is helpful
The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram. And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash.
Genesis 22:21
Huz his firstborn, and Buz his brother, and Kemuel the father of Aram,
Numbers 23:7
And he took up his parable, and said, Balak the king of Moab hath brought me from Aram, out of the mountains of the east, saying, Come, curse me Jacob, and come, defy Israel. [Moab is east of Israel]
1 Chronicles 1:17
The sons of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram, and Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Meshech.
1 Chronicles 2:23
And he took Geshur, and Aram, with the towns of Jair, from them, with Kenath, and the towns thereof, even threescore cities. All these belonged to the sons of Machir the father of Gilead.
1 Chronicles 7:34
And the sons of Shamer; Ahi, and Rohgah, Jehubbah, and Aram.
Matthew 1:3-4
And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
Luke 3:33
Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
Aram also known as Aramea, was a historical region including several Aramean kingdoms covering much of the present-day Syria, southeastern Turkey, and parts of Lebanon and Iraq
Aram, Ancient country, Middle East, southwestern Asia. It extended eastward from the Anti-Lebanon Mountains to beyond the Euphrates River.
So the bands from Aram stopped raiding Israel's territory. Some time later, Ben-Hadad king of Aram mobilized his entire army and marched up and laid siege to Samaria.
Today it's part of Syria Jordan Israel Lebanon.
You'll have to Google ancient Bible Maps to see the areas described.
That is a great question. I did not know the answer, but I did an internet search and found this. I cannot confirm the accuracy, but here's what I found:
There were 7 people named JUDAS in The Bible.
1. An ancestor of Jesus ( Luke 3:30-31)
2. "Judas the Galilean"mentioned by Gamaliel at the Sanhedrin. ( Acts 5:37)
3. One of the 12 apostles (aka: Thaddaeus-"son of James") ( Luke 6:16)
4. Judas Iscariot who betrayed Jesus. ( Mark 3:19)
5. One of Jesus' half-brothers. ( Matthew 13:55)
6. A man from Damascus (on the 'street called Straight') where Paul went after he was blinded ( Acts 9:11)
7. Judas (aka:Barsabbas)-who was called a prophet and a 'leading man' among the disciples, sent with Paul and Barnabas to deliver the letter on circumcision to Antioch and encourage the congregation ( Acts 15:22, 30-32)
Ecclesiastes 7:8, Psalms 86:15, Romans 2:4, 1Corinthians 4:5, Ruth 1:16,22, Ruth 4:11-22, Luke 3:23-38, note Luke 3:32
Psalms 130:3,4, Isaiah 54:8,
LORD help us all be faithful
Romans 6:3, Mark 10:38,
Acts 8:12-17, Acts 11:16, Acts 19:1-5, Acts 2:38,
From research, one can learn that in these verses (vv24-38), the Greek word 'tou' (with the genitive) means 'belonging to'; though in Luke 3:22,23, the word 'Son' is definitely used. Why the translators chose to add "the son of" is known only to them, though I suspect that in almost all cases there was a clear line of humanity (of 'begetting') which they carried through to the beginning, that of Adam. And the fact that "the son" is shown in italics, indicates that they understood that it wasn't in the original language.
With that aside, the 1 Corinthians chapter 15 reference by the apostle, was to show that though both Adam & Christ were alike in their 'coming' from God, their origins were totally different. Adam was created from the dust of the earth - Christ created into humanity by the Spirit of God ( Luke 1:35). The first was a product of the earth - the second a product from Heaven. True, Jesus was humanly formed & birthed & that was so, for His Coming was to be understood from the Davidic line, fulfilling the prophecies that went before Him & of course, to lay down His Life as a Sacrifice for all.
Then to assert that "Adam is also God", would be false, as there was nothing about Adam's creation to indicate that another god was produced & then fell. But for Jesus, His Coming was from God's Presence & Being - entitling Him to be called the Son of God & also worshipped.
Your opening comments are very interesting.
The things you say of me are exactly what you are doing.
You also didn't address the passage in 1 Cor 15:45, you totally ignored it.
Luke 3:38 Adam is called the son of God. Jesus is compared to him.
He is also the son of God. The two Adams. The first one failed the second one didn't.
Jesus is now at the right hand of God and Jesus has been given all power from God.
Jesus will reign until the last enemy is destroyed and that enemy is death.
Then Jesus gives everything back to God and is subject to him. 1 Cor 15:28
You say I denied Jesus divinity. What do you mean by that? Jesus is at Gods right hand.
He is Gods son. He is in a very divine position.
But is he God? No, he is the son of God. No ware in the scriptures is he called God the Son.
Lets look at some of the scriptures you sent me.
John 14:6 Consider John 5:30, 6:38, 7:16, 14:24,31
His words were his Fathers not his own. The doctrine he spoke wasn't his. He didn't do his own will but his Fathers.
This is why Jesus said I and my Father are one. John 10:30
The Jews accused Jesus of saying he was God. Where did he direct them? Psalm 82:6-7
The scripture called men gods. They were the rulers of Israel. They were Gods representatives.
1 John 5:7 This verse is very interesting. It is not included in a number of other versions.
These are American Standard Version, Bible in Basic English, Easy to Read Version, English Standard Version, Good News Bible,
International Standard Version, Revised Version and World English Version. Why is it not included in these versions?
Jesus was sent and the one sending is greater then the one being sent. John 13:16
Jesus was in the beginning with God in that God new what man was about. Man would need a saviour.
Geneses 3:15 The seed of the woman. Before Abraham was, I Am.
Christ would be of "no reputation" ( Philippians 2:7 etal). To be truly a Rabbi; He also was fulfilling an age requirement; as He was Prophet; King and Priest. When the Spirit came down on Him as a dove; and He went out thenceforth to be tempted of the Devil ( Matthew 4:1) then He began the inevitable course of ministry leading Him to the cross. This shows also the value of His family; as we can see when basically He told John to take care of His mother at the crucifixion. Nonetheless; at 12 years old He showed who He would become. It is certain that as John also indicated; that if everything were to be told of Him all the world's books couldn't contain it. It is also true that much spurious material of the sol called "missing years" were allowed by God so that only those who truly hear His voice would respond; and also foreknew the 66 books that would result in the accepted Canon. It doesn't deny that some truths exist that are pieces of the original text from Enoch's prophecy; for instance, nor make all of Satan's statements something we should follow; but ensures that they have been faithfully recorded.
We also have the Apostle Paul and what Christ said to him; as well as John at Patmos (not to mention Pentecost before He rose from the dead). There is also the "Cristophone" occuring with the Angel of God in the O.T. He is eternal; and now risen!
Amen.
Luke 3:23, people take that scripture & add holidays & other events to draw a timeline.
It doesn't actually say that Jesus CHRIST ministry is/was limited to just those years of HIS open ministry because it's everlasting. Luke 1, John 1:1-5, Luke 2:42-50, John 8:58, 1Corinthians 15:47-58, Ephesians 3:9-11, Titus 3:7, John 3:15, Hebrews 5:9, Jude 1:21, Romans 6:23, Romans 5:21, John 17:3, 2Timothy 2:10, 2Corinthians 5:1, 1John 5:11, John 10:28, 1John 5:20,
Hopefully these are helpful
Acts 10, 1John 3:1-24,
1John 4:1-21,
Hopefully these are helpful in your study.
Yes, see Genesis 6. It is plainly stated in v4. This is why God decides to destroy all flesh except Noah who is perfect (whole) in his gene-rations (DNA?). Also see Genesis 3:15 and notice there will be a serpent's seed and the woman's seed.
- "Now I know that angels cannot breed, so that rules them out."
The Bible says that the angels in HEAVEN are not given in MARRIAGE ( Matthew 22:30 & Mark 12:25). It does not say the angels do not have the ability to rebel (we know they do) and leave heaven to procreate with women on earth. Jude 4 references God punishing angels harshly who left their first estate (heaven) and own habitation. Why? Well, cross reference Genesis 6: they cohabitated or married and bore children with women against God's will. Remember the two seeds in Genesis 3?
- "The men who first began to call upon the name of the lord were called the sons of god. So could you clarify for me?"
Actually, this is a myth about the line of Seth. Genesis 4:25 mentions Seth having a son named Enos and then after that men began to call upon the name of the LORD. The Bible does not call them sons of God. Mankind lost that sonship when Adam sinned. It is only restored after the cross when one receives the Lord Jesus Christ ( John 1:12).
- So who does the Bible refer to as sons of God?:
"sons of God"
Referenced 5 times in the OT & is always a reference to heavenly beings directly created by God.
Referenced 6 times in the NT for the saved who are born of God.
"son of God" in Luke 3:38 is reference to Adam when he was created directly by God.
"Son of God" is references 46 times. 45 times in the NT for the Lord Jesus and once in the OT ( Daniel 3:25) is a reference to the Lord pre-incarnate.
This is a term used as a direct creation of God.
There is only 3 in scripture that was created that bares this title
1) Angels.
Genesis 6:2.
Job 1:6.
2) Adam.
Luke 3:38.
We're not a "direct" creation. We're sons of Adam until Born again.
3) Those in Christ.
John 1:12.
We are a NEW creation in Christ.
That's why it's called a new birth. "Born again" properly translated, "Born from above."
With Adam being the first Man/Adam created, And then sinned, sin passed on to ALL Men, "Only if ALL Men came after Adam. The ONLY way redemption is available to ALL.
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 5:12.
To redeem, is to buy back!
When the Law came everyone in Adam spiritually died.
I believe physical death came by Adams transgression, spiritual death came by the giving of the law.
But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. Romans 5:15.
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 1 Corinthians 15:45-49.
If there were people created before Adam how can they be bought back when Adam transgression has no effect on them being they were never "In" Adam.
Note: Acts 17:26.
Genesis 5:1-2. connects Genesis 1:26-28.
and Genesis 2:7. and also cover the use of the name Adam used for both Adam and Eve.
God bless.
Good question. Open your heart to GOD ALMIGHTY & allow Jesus CHRIST to be you're savior. The HOLY Spirit will guide you & teach you all truth. John 3:16-17,
Genesis 1:26-28, GOD created, multiple men & women to fill the earth, subdue tak dominion over the fish of the sea, cattle, birds of the air .
Then HE formed Man & breathed Life into him: Genesis 2:7, this is a special account because of the details Genesis 2:8,9,15, interesting that this man was alone, Gen 2:18-24 note: Genesis 4:16, they were already cast out of the garden, Cain left the 'Presence of the LORD'' it appears he left the Holy to dwell with the other men & women in a land called Nod. HOLY means set apart, Gen 4:17, then they built a city & named it. So Nod already existed. Then you have: Genesis 4:23-24 why isn't the killed man mentioned? If it was of the same parents? Therefore proving these are the other men & women Genesis 5:1-2, Genesis 4:26, Enoch the HOLY seed begins to call on GOD, "Son's of GOD" Gen 6:1-6, "Son of GOD" Jesus CHRIST Luke 3:23-38, Enos = Enoch, Romans 8:14.
Please don't believe evil lies. GOD says & our spirit testifys sin & perversion bad: Leviticus 20:17, & GOD doesn't lead us to sin : James 1:12-27, note: James 1:13-14,
Study for yourself & GOD will help you see truth.
John 1:1-5, Revelation 4:10-11, Colossians 1:12-23, Ephesians 3:9, Revelation 10:1-7,
Note: Isaiah 42:1-12, Isaiah 42:23, compare: the Gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke & John,
There is a difference I believe because it seems to point out that man Adam being put into the Garden, symbolic of the Church. To tend it, where GOD seems to already have given the Genesis 1:27-28 'created female & males, direction to multiply & subdue take dominion over the earth & creatures land & sea. Genesis 2:7-8, Genesis 5:1-3, interestingly it is the lineage of Seth the Jesus comes through : Luke 3:23-38
1Corinthians 15:45, 1Corinthians 15:42-47, Genesis 2:15, Genesis 2:18-24,
Mark 1:1-5 : Exodus 15:2, Isaiah 40:3, Malachi 3:1, Matthew 3:3, Matthew 11:10, Luke 1:76, Luke 3:4, Luke 7:27,
Vrs 6.- compare: Jeremiah 13:1-11, 2Kings 1:8,
Mark 1:13, : Psalms 106:14, Matthew 4:1, Luke 4:2,
Mark 1:14, : Luke 3,
Mark 1:44, : Leviticus 10:10, Leviticus 13,
Isaiah 11:1-4,
I Agree with Brother Jesse and Brother T. Lewis.
Mary was a virgin as prophesied when she conceived.
But it seems your concern was how did that play a role in the line of David right?
Mary was of the line of David also.
The Bible provides us with two lengthy genealogies of Christ. Matthew, as a Levite, focuses on the Messiahship of Jesus in that he traces the legal line from Abraham (thought to be the first Jew) through David, then Solomon and the royal line, to Joseph, the legal father of Jesus ( Matthew 1:1-17) and the husband of Mary. Luke, as a physician, focuses on the humanity of Jesus. He traces the blood line from Adam (the Son of God versus us, the sons of Adam) and once Luke gets to Abraham, the genealogy is identical to Matthew's up to the House of David. Then Luke goes from David, through Nathan (a different son of David) to Mary, the mother of Jesus ( Luke 3:23-38).
By this Jesus has the legal line as well the blood line and divinely avoid the curse pronounced on king Jeconiah in
Jeremiah 22:30.
God bless.
Part 7 of 7.
(3) Gentiles were not required, but had the privilege of, joining the Hebrew family via the proselytization process (cf. Acts 2:10; 13:16). Additionally, there were many instructions in Moses' law designed to benefit the "strangers" (Gentiles) who came among Israelite people ( Leviticus 19:33ff).
(4) The Lord sent Jonah to the Gentiles of Nineveh ( Jonah 3:1). Archer said that the theme of the book of Jonah "is that God's mercy and compassion extend even to the heathen nations on condition of their repentance" (1964, 295). Jonah is sometimes called "the first apostle to the Gentiles."
(5) Four Gentile women were woven into the genealogical fabric of the Messiah-Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, and Bathsheba-in both legal and biological senses ( Matthew 1:5-6; Luke 3:31-32).
(6) In addition, the prophets clearly revealed Jehovah's redemptive concern for the Gentiles, who were to be grafted into the New Testament church on an equal basis with the Jews ( Genesis 17:4; 22:18; Psalms 2:8; Isaiah 42:1, 6; 49:6; cf. Romans 11:1ff; Galatians 3:28; Ephesians 2:11ff).
Conclusion
There always has been a way for honest people to be right with their Creator-if they seek after him and choose to please him ( Acts 17:27ff). God so loved the entire world and gave his Son as a potential redeeming sacrifice for all who avail themselves of his gift ( John 3:16). He is the loving benefactor to everyone who submits to his will in faithful obedience ( 1 Timothy 2:4; Hebrews 5:8-9; cf. 2 Peter 3:9).
Article by Wayne Jackson.
I share this information for one to go over. I haven't had the time to do no more than glance over the beginning being I'm out town on business again.
Hopefully some others can share on this great question you asked.
God bless.
Jesus CHRIST the MESSIAH referred to the most as Son of GOD. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Hebrews, etc.
Luke 3:38,
* Romans 8:14, * Hebrews 1:13-14,
I understand "Son's of GOD presented themselves before GOD" to mean= they prayed notice Job 1:5, "offered burnt offerings" then vrs. 6._._._ the accuser came, Revelation 12:10,
Genesis 4:26, Luke 3:38,
Exodus 34:2, Leviticus 14:11, Leviticus 16:28, 1 Samuel 10:19, Daniel 9:18, Luke 2:22, Romans 12:1, Jude 1:24-25,
Genesis 2:15, was this a separated man? If GOD had already told mankind to subdue the entire earth? Would HE really take him then to dress & tend a special garden HE had made? Or is this symbolic of the Church._. Ezekiel 28:12-15, Ezekiel 31:8-9, Isaiah 58:11, Isaiah 61:11, Joel 2:3? Many times Jesus refers to the "vine dresser", the "stewards", seeds, etc. Luke 13:17, Luke 13:18-21, * John 15:1,5, & many times it's about unfaithfulness of that stewardship many times relating to the "Church" & those in charge. Luke 16:2, Ironic Jesus also being crucified by Garden, John 19:41, & where Jesus was betrayed, bound, taken captive, John 18:26,27, John 18:1-12,
Genesis 4:1-16, note Genesis 4:14,
Then you have an unreasonable fear of being killed by vengeance which was completely irrational if there was only Adam & Eve. There in that family -2 mourning the murdered child & 1 on the run. Then you have the outrageous idea that those same two parents would give a daughter to the murderer who already disregarded his brother's life to kill him. Gross, perverted imagination!! Genesis 4:16-17 then he built a city. Genesis 19:4-25, why isn't man killed mentioned? Then Seth's birth.
The importance of the lineage of Adam & Eve was it led to the Messiah Jesus CHRIST. Luke 3:22-38. Therefore when Eve is called the mother of all living CHRIST even addressed this as "let the dead bury the dead" pointing to spiritual death. Note it doesn't say Eve was of "life" it said mother of living._Genesis 3:20..Note also the day they would surely "die"! Genesis 2:17. Genesis 3:6-8, fear of (death?) eternal judgement? What happened? If it wasn't a spiritual death? Genesis 3:10, loss of fellowship, trust, intimacy even in marriage that's sometimes referred to "death, of the marriage"
Genesis 6:1-6, Gen 6:6, "earth" not "garden"
I found your comments interesting. You mentioned the word trinity. Could you please show me where this word is used in the bible?
You mentioned John 5:18. Jesus never said he was God. The Jews said he made himself equal with God. Jesus then goes on to explain his standing with God.
Joh 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
You need to understand that our Lord Jesus is not the only Son of God. See Luke 3:38
In John 10:33 Jesus was again accused with making himself God. How did Jesus respond?
Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Jesus is directing them to Psalm 82. It is dealing with the rulers of the nation of Israel. They are called Gods.
This idea "Sons of God" is used a number of times in the New Testament. Here are some of them.
Joh_1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Rom_8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Php_2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
Thanks for your time
You said that it wasn't even in the shape of a dove but Luke 3:22 says that it was in the shape of a dove. Like I said before it was done that way to indicate the type of ministry Jesus Christ would have.
is used in Rev:1:14 his hair was white like [as if] wool appearance. Interestingly both objects are white which is
represents purity.
I would treat describing the Spirit appearing in that instance as a dove akin to us describing the other persons of the Godhead in picture or statue form. Just my thoughts on that time of Jesus' inauguration into ministry.
This full thought of the scriptures you want clarity on : Acts 10:26-46, starts in Acts 10:10-15, with the vision.
Acts 10:28 , I believe Peter was referring to Leviticus 10:10-11, Old Testament Law,
Acts 10:26, Peter didn't want Cornelius to worship him, or reverence him that way, he corrected him.
Mark 1:1-11, Luke 3:21-22, Luke 4:14-15,
Mark 16:6-17, New tongues, Jesus risen from the (grave), ate with them,
Acts 7:8, promise of Covenant, circumcision ; Genesis 17:10, Romans 4:11-12, 1 Corinthians 7:18,19, Galatians 5:6, Colossians 3:11,
Hopefully these are all helpful & pray for understanding
Hopefully this is helpful
Through the Adam Genesis 4:25-26, Genesis 5:1-32, comes the line of the living, physically & Spiritualy, Matthew 1:1-16, Luke 3:23-38, John 1:1-5, John 3:15-16, Mark 12:27,
Where in the Bible is the genealogy Mary, Jesus' mother? To answer your question, we look at Matthew 1:1 -16 the genealogy of Jesus from Abraham to Joseph the husband of Mary the mother of Jesus. I believe this is the first record that tells Mary as Jesus' mother. The genealogy of Jesus in Luke 3: 23 -38 is to show man and woman that Jesus is the son of man.
God Bless
stay prayed up and ready to go up
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