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  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hanna Fowler,

    Sometimes we have to find out who we are not, & who we don't want to be, before we find out who we are. I've told several people at times before testings & temptation we can say "I'd never" but as Peter under the real pressure gave in, we really don't know how we handle trial & temptation until testing. (We're to pray that God deliver us & lead us not into temptation ' Matthew 6,) Luke 22:31-34, Luke 22:40-62, Matthew 26:75, John 21:17, later Peter became a bold preacher read all the book of Acts to see Peter's boldness afterward. Here's a few: Acts 2:38-47, Acts 2:14, this is in the Bible for those of us who need this encouragement. Also this scripture : Luke 7:47, in context Luke 7:37-50,

    Here are a few more: Mark 1:15, Acts 2:38, John 3:15-16, Acts 3:19, Romans 3:22-25,

    Romans 5:8, "But God commendeth his love towards us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

    Ephesians 5,

    Ephesians 5:8 "For ye were sometimes darkness, but now ye are light in the Lord: walk as children of the light."

    Matthew 7, Matthew 25:31-46, 2Corinthians 1:4,

    Hopefully these are all helpful
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello Janelle. I understand you're enquiring about the meaning of Communion, otherwise called, The Lord's Table or Breaking of Bread. As you know, this was first instituted by the Lord Jesus when He shared a meal with His disciples at Passover time, prior to His arrest & crucifixion (called, The Last Supper): Luke 22:14-20.

    Then after Jesus' Death & Resurrection, His apostles & the new Church formed under the Holy Spirit's indwelling & direction, also observed this coming together, eating, & remembering of Jesus' Sacrifice ( Acts 2:41-47; 1 Corinthians 11:23-30). So when Jesus first instituted this at The Last Supper, He wanted to show His disciples very vividly how the bread they had broken & now eating, was a picture of His Own Body being broken (crown of thorns, nails in hands & feet, flesh torn by whipping, & pierced side). And the cup of liquid they drank & shared together, should be a reminder of His Blood that would be shed in death & through it, the New Covenant would be brought in. New Covenant? This is God's Promise that whoever repents & is forgiven, does so because Jesus was made our Sacrifice (our Substitute) & God accepts us on His new Terms. The Old Covenant was under obedience to the Law & Sacrifices, which could never save a person, but it looked forward to when God's Sacrifice (His Son) would fully pay for our sin - for those who truly repent & turn to Him.

    So how does Communion work? It is a memorial occasion, where those who are born again of God's Spirit, share together in a meal (today we generally have small tokens of wafer & juice), remembering in a material way, what the cost of our salvation was & a time to praise God together as a Church body, for God's Gift of His Son because of His great Love for us. This meal/token of bread & wine doesn't change into flesh & blood, as some believe, but are given as reminders of the great work at Calvary. It should be a special time when the Church together focusses on Jesus' Death & Resurrection.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 3 years ago
    The doctrine of election is described as the "total depravity" of man according to the "TULIP" acronym which was credited toward; but not originated with Calvin's set of beliefs on predestination as one of the elements. Simply put; Christ looked down also and saw that there was no man in Isaiah 63:3; thus he renders justice and we are only made right through His sacrifice. If anyone else could have done it; surely Christ wouldn't have to die on the cross; or have to pray that if possible the cup would be spared

    ( Luke 22:42). It is obvious from scripture that "all men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God". ( Romans 3:23). There are; of course many other verses in both Testaments on that subject.

    We could say that since Revelation indicates the fate of ALL who are NOT written in the Book of Life is to worship Antichrist ( Rev. 13:8) we all are going to turn away as your quoted verse in Psalms indicates. Obviously; some do come to God; but since repentance is a gift according to scripture ( Acts 11:18); and faith is also mentioned as such in Ephesians 2:8; it becomes clear that all good gifts come from above ( James 1:17).

    This doesn't absolve our personal responsibility; and part of this mystery of election involves man's response or lack thereof to the same evidence at least with external appearance. The sticking point comes as indicated when Christ said "why do you call me good"? ( Mark 10:18). Seeing Him as God in the flesh only comes through Divine revelation ( Matthew 16:17). Others see Him as a "good teacher; Prophet or something else as the earlier verses in that passage indicate. Those people are not "spiritually discerned" ( 1 Cor. 2:14).

    Finally; going back to Noah we have the lack of salvation available for hybrid offspring of the fallen angels; as well as those angels themselves. Therefore; a universal destruction occured; except for Noah "perfect in his generations" ( Gen. 6:9). This indicates pure human seed; not sinless
  • D W L on Romans 6:11 - 3 years ago
    For me to step on your toe is no sin its an accident, for me to stomp your toe and hurt you is no accident its a sin and a Christian won't stomp your toe. But a Christian may step on your toe by accident. Does it hurt if I step on your toe - YES, could I have avoided it maybe, but I should say i'm sorry and try not to do it again.

    Yes Judas was called and chosen ( John 6:70) Judas sold our SAVIOR for $$$ - (went to far no chance to repent), and Peter denied him there are greater sins than others.

    Luke 22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: 32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art (converted), strengthen thy brethren. 62 And Peter went out, and wept bitterly.
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Thanks for that Suze. I agree with much that you wrote, but rather than deal with each part of it, I would ask, What is the origin of our carnal minds? What was in Paul's mind when he stated, "the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God" Romans 8:7,8: where does this carnal mind/carnal life, lived in the flesh, come from?

    Is this something God has given us from our birth, or has another intruded into humanity causing us to sin against God & that sin has been passed on to all generations? ( Romans 5:12; Acts 5:3; 1 Timothy 5:14,15; 2 Corinthians 2:10,11; 1 Thessalonians 2:18; Luke 22:31,32; etc., are a few verses showing Satan's activity, from the first day till the day he is put away, & our ongoing struggle to withstand him & his devices & to live in the power & joy of the Holy Spirit).

    Satan is never absent - He is present - He is at work - and working in the hearts & minds of those who choose to live according to the dictates of their flesh & not in the fullness of the Spirit. Such were the gross sins of those kings mentioned earlier - if Ananias & Sapphira could have Satan gripping their heart so as to lie to the Spirit, how much more of Satan's control over those kings & indeed so many rulers/govts of today & their workings against Jesus Christ.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 3 years ago
    I believe you're looking for Revelation 12, I gave additional Scripture in your question on same subject.

    I wanted to add: Jude 1, entire chapter & compare Revelation 12 to Luke 2:1-7, Matthew 2:7-23, John 19:30, 1Corinthians 15:20, John 21:14, Luke 22:69, Mark 16:19, Acts 5:31,

    Hopefully these are helpful also
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Revelation 12:4 apparently. Also check out Hebrews 12:22; and Matthew 25:41.

    Some thoughts: Angels were WITH God at the creation; hence they saw everything. God has NO redemption for them. How much they were aware of the consequences of their rebellion is unclear. Praise God that we do NOT see such things. Praise God that God didn't let Adam go on in his FALLEN state without removing the tree of life which would have sealed him forever in that state-and that He had a redemption plan for man as Genesis 3:15 indicates. Of course we don't have any listing of Adam in the "hall of saints" of Hebrews 11.

    We have the apparent corruption of the seed of men mentioned in Genesis 6 and likely that will be repeated with some DNA alteration with the mark of the beast. It would seem; anyway that the demon rising out of the pit (Apollyon) will possess Antichrist; who in turn will decieve ALL those not in the Book of Life with some promise of utopia or eternal existence. My point here is that day and night the devil never sleeps ( Rev. 12:10; and 1 Peter 5:8-9). He uses the minds of natural men and the desires of the world to decieve ( Matt. 16:23). This verse is sobering; because it shows that our natural desire to live must be superceded by dying to self and for Him if necessary. It also reflects what on the surface would seem to e a sympathetic statement by Peter who couldn't concieve of Christ as Lord (which the Spirit apparently revealed to him right before that) having to go through that. His natural mind was like the others who became exceedingly sad and tuned out these hard sayings.

    Jesus; mercifully reasurred Peter that after he converted that he would also strengthen his brethren. ( Luke 22:31-32). This probably refers to the state at Pentecost after he was transformed. Jesus alluded to this after asking 3 times if he loved Him (using different terms for love). He thus went where he didn't want to go. We must also walk in the Spirit. Agape.
  • Robert E. Krotzer - In Reply on 2 Thessalonians 2 - 3 years ago
    Just as I said, you are ignorant of the Gospel in the King James Bible that is: "Christ Jesus took our place in hell." He said he would be in the heart of the earth ( Matt. 12:40) and greatly feared going there, praying in agony, and sweating blood, not to go there ( Luke 22:42-44). The wicked dead are only in hell. "He made his grave with the wicked" Isaiah 53:9-10 where "his SOUL was made an offering for sin" and Jesus would "be the FIRST that should rise from the DEAD" as Acts 26:23 tells you and "His soul was not left in hell." Acts 2:31 clearly tells you. Jesus did what no man can do; anyone can die on a cross, and anyone can go into hell, but only Jesus came out of hell after 36 hours which no other soul has done. God raise Jesus from the DEAD and unless you believe THAT you cannot be saved. Without someone taking your place in hell you will go there. This is Christianity 101; Why do you not know this? You believe the strong delusional lie that denies that Jesus suffered in hell which saves no one! God made the Gospel so simple; just know that "Christ Jesus took your place in hell" and you HAVE Eternal Life! Where is your brain?
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
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    To your questions Linda:

    No. 1. (IF) Judas Was (That One Devil) Then (Why On Earth) Did Jesus Call Simon Peter (SATAN)?

    As far as the Bible records, there is only one Devil (Satan) & many devils (or, demons/evil spirits). Jesus referred to both Judas & Peter as Devil & Satan. In Luke 22:3 we read, "Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve." Judas didn't turn into the (or, a) Devil but the Devil entered him to cause him to betray Jesus (fulfilling the Scriptures, of course).

    In Luke 22:31, Jesus said, "Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat" and "But he (Jesus) turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men." ( Matthew 16:23). Same thing again: from Peter's almost valiant stand to protect Jesus' Honor & Life, Jesus came back to him, calling him Satan.

    Both Judas & Simon acted against Jesus: one an outright betrayal & the other, a refusal to accept Jesus' Mission. When they or anyone believes or works contrary to God's Word, they don't become a Devil, but they are moved by the Devil to act according to his Will & not God's. Jesus saw the work of a living Devil in both these men - both these men eventually realized their errors - one in suicide, the other in the furtherance of the Gospel & building up of Christ's Church. Devils don't repent - but their work in people's hearts is severely obstructed when they have to deal with the Living God in regenerated lives. Peter was forgiven & lived out his life in the Power & Joy of the Holy Spirit. Sadly, Judas chose to end his life, maybe fulfilling Satan's wish for him.
  • Linda - In Reply - 3 years ago
    BTW You stated That Peter's 3 Denials Of Jesus Were Only "One" Event.

    But: It Was Actually 3 Separate Events: Involving 3 Different People: At 3 Separate Times. Luke 22:55-61

    The Bible Doesn't Mention The Length Of The Time Spans: But There Was Probably Somewhere Around 15 Minutes To One Hour Between Each Denial.

    1John 2:23 Says Whosoever Denieth The Son, The Same Hath Not The Father.

    Whosoever = Simon Peter.

    Simon Peter Hath Not God, The Father.

    Simon Peter Is Not A Child Of The God Of Abraham, Isaac And Jacob. Also:

    Jesus Called Simon Peter (Satan).

    Peter = Thee = Satan Matt.16:23

    Do You Really Think That Satan Will Be Allowed Into The Kingdom Of Heaven?
  • Linda - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jesus spoke john 6:70 but verse 71 is not (in red) not the words of jesus.

    matt. 10:33 jesus says, whosoever shall deny me before men. him will i also deny before my father which is in heaven.

    "whosoever" includes simon peter.

    jesus "is not" a liar.

    jesus "will deny" simon peter, (getthee behind me satan)

    before his father which is in heaven.

    simon peter denied jesus 3x

    mt.26:34&75 / mark 24:30&71-72 /

    luke 22:61

    1 john 2:23.whosoever denieth the son, hath not the father: but he that acknowledgeth the son hath the father also.

    simon peter denied the son.3x.

    simon peter hath not the father.
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Giannis. I don't agree with that statement. What I read in the NT, is that the believers broke bread together whenever they came together - at least that is the sense I get from Acts 2:42-47. It seems that whenever they came together for fellowship, whether on the Lord's Day or any other day, then during their meal they set a time aside to remember the Lord's Death (even as the Lord did when He first instituted it in Luke 22:1-20). And of course, that meal of bread & drink were representative of His broken Body & shed Blood & did not mystically reconstitute itself into those human substances.

    The Church today does not function exactly as the early Church did; if we were to in this regard of the Lord's Table, then when believers meet together anywhere for a fellowship meal, it would be good to set a time aside to remember the Lord, both in discussion, prayer & breaking of bread in memory of the Lord Jesus. If the Church no longer recognizes the Lord's Supper, then they should probably remove water baptism as well, as both these were ordinances laid out by the Lord & given to the Church.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Dear Earl,

    I am aware of these Scriptures. I leave it up to Jesus to determine what this will entail. But for me, I don't dwell on ruling over

    anyone, but instead seek to follow Christ's example and words from Luke 22:25-27; John 13:1-17 and elsewhere where our

    Lord instructs His followers to be servants, not rulers and to follow His example (washing their feet) and that those who wish to

    be great in the kingdom must be the servant of all. So, I do not glory in the designation of believers being "kings and priests of

    the Most High" as the King of Kings was humble and a willing servant. That is what I want my attitude to do.

    I just think that those who desire to rule over angels and others have an unhealthy and devilish attitude.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on John 14 - 3 years ago
    Hi Jeremiah.

    God bless you and Amen to all who have responded with great truth!!

    Tina reminded me of something I would like to add.

    In Luke 22:31-32. Jesus tells peter Satan desires to sift him like wheat.

    Then in Luke 22:34. Jesus said, I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me.

    The Lord stands outside of time looking in. He knew what sins we would commit before we committed them and he knew who would come to him.

    What's wonderful about that is we can't disappoint him.

    We are saved according to his mercy Titus 3:5. by grace through faith. Ephesians 2:8-9.

    God bless you.
  • Free - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi all dear, now you all talk a lot again. When referring to Timothy about the treatment of church members, it does not agree with paying taxes to the Emperor / King / State. Romans 13 1 Timothy 6:10-12 ALvin Kamberi is right, and all. But The 10 commandments state the importance of what we should worship and honor. God Alone. God must have everything. Colossians 3:12-17 we have no reason to revel and wallow in the riches of the world. Not even Jesus did, though He could fully enjoy all the benefits of the world. He lived soberly and always worshiped God. Gethsemane as described in Luke 22:44 Then He strained so that he sweated blood.

    But we must work with our hands

    Mark 12:17

    Oh, as I wish we Christians could take care of each other, have daily conversations, have daily testimonies, have daily care for each other. Living in a collective. The model was and lives as in the time of the Acts of the Apostles. We have this web then which is a little skin of the real life we should have had :) So I thank you all every day. The apostles sold everything they had and gave to the needy. New members were added daily! Acts 2

    :D In English we say woman and man. I hold that all men stand before God in truth as a Spirit with Him.

    Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

    27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

    This is an important strategist in how we should live. At that time, it was probably not men's work and women's work that we like and talk about today. We did not come to the hospital to give birth. Even then, they were equal. But then of course the evil came! Take care of yourself, and do not accept what is free, it can be dangerous.

    ohh the space again :D, Jesus loves u all.
  • Free - In Reply on 1 Samuel 17 - 3 years ago
    Dear "Horace Anderson". Must start with the last first :). We are washed clean: Luke 22:7 Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed.

    8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.

    9 And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?

    10 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.

    11 And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?

    12 And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.

    13 And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.

    14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.

    15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:

    16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.

    17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:

    18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

    19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

    20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

    In v 20 we get answers. When we get to Heaven, God's Light will Shine on us. In that light, no sin can manage to be in that :).

    Revelation chapter 22

    Thank you Jesus for your great patience with us, Your Beloved. Soon You are here and we will come to You. Stay blessed in His Holy Name Jesus Christ, love u all. John chapter 11 and 12
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Numbers 9 - 3 years ago
    Hi Sarah,

    The Passover and how it was to be done you will find in Exodus 12:3-11, read all of Exodus 12. The Passover day is on the 14th of Nisan the day Jesus was crucified; this day is also a preparation day for the 15th the first day of 7 days of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Jewish people on Passover, gather together for a ceremonial meal called a seder and telling of the story of the Exodus from Egypt.

    Some Christians celebrate passion week and Easter Sunday, the day Jesus resurrected, and some just Easter Sunday. It is easy to get lost in traditions, there comfortable and many have reunions on these holidays.

    You say you are concerned; Passover is one of the feasts that Israelites were required to return to Jerusalem. Many combine the Passover and the Unleavened Bread feast into 8 days and call it the feast of Passover or the Feast of Unleavened bread, they did that in the time of Jesus, Matthew 26:17 Luke 22:1.

    By following traditions we can overlook what Jesus fulfilled, He rode in on the 10th of Nisan, the Passover day on the 14th of Nisan, the day He was crucified, the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world, the Tamid, the first and the last, the feast of Unleavened Bread with His perfect life, the feast of First Fruits, the day He was resurrected, He ascended the same time as the priest waved the Omer, John 20:17 He is the First Fruits of those who slept, 1 Corinthians 15:20, that we now call Easter.

    1Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

    My understanding is Passover is a sacrifice that Jesus fulfilled; and no other blood sacrifice is needed, if done in faith, how you remember or honor it is up to you.

    1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

    God bless

    RLW
  • GiGi - In Reply on Numbers 9 - 3 years ago
    Hi Jeanie,

    From my understanding and experience Catholics and some Protestants celebrate what they call Holy Week which includes: Palm Sunday (Jesus' triumphant entry into Jerusalem - Luke 19:28-40), the Last Supper on Thursday ( Luke 22:7-38); Jesus' agony in the garden, betrayal, trial, scourging, and crucifixion ( Luke 22:39-23:1-49), his burial and entombment,, ( Luke 23:50-55), and His Resurrection from the dead ( Luke 24:1-12; Matt. 28; Mk. 16; Jn 20-21), but not the Passover in the sense that the jews celebrate it. This week of celebration is pointedly centered on Jesus our Savior, which the Jews do not celebrate because they reject Jesus as the Messiah. The Passover is a memorial of the passing over of the Israelites in Egypt by the angel of death and the hasty meal before they fled from Egypt (In Exodus).
  • D W L on 2 Peter 2:20 - 3 years ago
    2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

    Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    John 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. -- notice it says branch in me.

    3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

    4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

    5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

    6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. --- This is Jesus its not my opinion (fire)

    Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art (converted), strengthen thy brethren.--- Peter you must not cut off people ear --

    John 18:36 if my kingdom were of this world my servants would fight

    Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

    We make mistakes, but a Christian stops lying, steeling, killing, adultery, + the other commandments
  • RichFairhurst - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I think if you trace out commentaries on Judas in the Gospels and Acts you get the answers to both of your questions.

    The set of scriptures that speak about Judas before he committed himself to betray Jesus are: Mark 3:13-19, Luke 6:13-16, John 6:61-71

    The event that triggered Judas to act on his decision to betray Jesus: Matthew 26:6-16, Mark 14:3-11, John 12:3-8

    Judas identified as betrayer at the last supper: Matthew 26:20-25, Mark 14:17-21, Luke 22:21-22, John 13:18-31

    Once his betrayal was set in motion: John 17:9-12

    At the betrayal: Matthew 26:45-50, Mark 14:40-46, Luke 22:45-48, John 18:1-9

    After completing his betrayal: Matthew 27:3-10, Acts 1:16 and Acts 1:20

    We must acknowledge Jn 2:24-25 was true of Christ before He chose any of His disciples. He was never deceived by anyone that temporarily followed him but fell away, including Judas, John 6:64. No prophet had been in Israel for centuries, so Christ alone had this ability when He came until Pentacost. After Pentacost the hearts of certain individuals could be revealed by Christ's Spirit to born again believers that are specially given that gift, such as Peter ( Acts 5:1-13, Acts 8:1-25) Note, Jusas, Ananias and Saphira, and Simon all had their hearts exposed as false thru their follies with money.

    Judas was a disciple and he was broken off the vine, but he never had the fruit of the Holy Spirit and was never pronounced pruned/cleaned by the Father or Jesus. We know this because Judas was broken off by the Father before Jesus told the disciples they were pruned/cleaned branches abiding in Him, the true vine, who would bear fruit in John 15. Judas was marked unclean, he was never born again of the Spirit at Pentacost or made an Apostle for the great commission. He died a disciple without the fruitful presence of the Holy Spirit. He is proof that false fruitless brethren can be among us who depart 1 Jn 2:18-20, but not proof some are broken off by God who actually bear fruit by abiding in Jesus.
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    My opinion is there's nothing wrong with that phrase and think it shows humility and sensitivity to the will of God. It's similar to what Jesus said in Luke 22:42.

    One could ask: isn't everything God's will anyway since He's always in control isn't praying for God's will redundant?

    I believe God is powerful enough to intervene and powerful enough to change His mind based on our interactions with Him, and believe He fully gave us freewill and that we're not mere robots following a script. With that being said, I think living a prayerful life in humility as a servant trying our best to follow Jesus through obedience and asking for God's will to be done seems like a sign of a healthy Christ-follower to me. God bless you.
  • Luke 22:36 Reply - In Reply on 1 Peter 3 - 3 years ago
    and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."

    Again, whether metaphorical or literal, things were becoming dangerous. We can at least assume that Jesus does not call us to total pacifism at all costs. In a moment they would point out that they had two swords already. This tells us that a) Jesus had not prohibited them from carrying swords up to then, and b) When Jesus said, "That's enough" ( Luke 22:38) it shows that he is not expecting them to go to literal war against the Romans or the Jews, but could be an exasperated statement, although it doesn't always get interpreted and read that way.

    Mishael: I think Jesus was saying, you don't have enough swords to fight everybody off as he went forward to fulfill his Ministry on earth.

    Some could say to us, I'm dying. We say and do things to not allow that to happen: exploratory medicine, best surgeon, best hospital etc.

    We all, do not think of death the same ways. We should pray and ask, if we can do that.
  • Elijah G Thompson on 1 Peter 3 - 3 years ago
    Luke 22:36
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Matthew 16:23 - 3 years ago
    Great reply Ronald.

    I believe all through the scripture it supports the view the Holyspirit empowers the believer and as the scriptures you pointed out it took the dwelling of the Holyspirit to perform in them to minister under this new covenant. You see it in the life of Peter here in Luke 22:32. When was Peter strengthened and start to perform? It's obvious in scripture after he was empowered. Christ was preaching his death and resurrection, but they couldn't receive it. In Luke 18:31-34. he declared to them what the Prophets has written, and they still couldn't grasp it because it hidden from them.

    Also, in John 16:12-14. seems to suggest the same thing. The preaching of the Cross was hidden from their eyes, and it seems Paul is mentioning the same thing throughout his epistles speaking of the natural man. 1 Corinthians 2:7-14.

    The Holyspirirt is essential for understand and walk. Once he reveals his truth to us they're written on our hearts it takes him to exercise those truths in us and perfect our walk. we respond to the truth by the power of the Holyspirit, likewise the Apostles.

    For it is God which worketh in you both to "will" and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:13.

    It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63.

    The bible is not like our textbooks in school, what we have here has to be revealed to you, 1 Corinthians 1:18-21.

    Also: 1 Corinthians 1:26-31.

    You see the Holyspirits power over the flesh in Romans 8:1-14.

    You see the Holyspirirt working in us through baptism given us power to cease from sin in Romans 6:1-18.

    You see the contrast of the two natures in Romans 7:1-6. and so on. Here we see the contrast of what we had when we were under the law compared to what we have in Christ.

    God bless.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 22 - 3 years ago
    Matthew 22:45, Hebrews 10, Hebrews 1, Colossians 3:1, Mark 16:19, 1 Peter 3:22, Acts 5:31,

    Luke 22:69, Psalms 110:1, Psalms 110:4, later referenced to clarify Jesus' priesthood Genesis 14:18, Hebrews 7,

    Psalms 110:5-6

    Hopefully these scripture references are helpful.
  • Donna - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 3 years ago
    1 Corinthians 11:24-31

    Luke 22:19

    My humble understanding of the scriptures:-).

    I think it's about remembering what Jesus did on the cross. How He suffered and was bruised and bled. That must never be forgotten. No no no. On the contrary Jesus wants us to remember His Sacrifice for us often. He says take communion often in remembrance of Him. I don't know of any scripture that says you can't do that alone. I have been doing it alone. So if anybody knows of any scripture that says you can't do that alone please share it.

    I cry when I take communion. When I remember what Jesus did and what he went through and the heaviness of the sin that He carried to the cross on behalf of every soul that lives or ever has lived or will live. I couldn't even stand under the weight of my own sin. I think it's about remembering. Until He comes.

    Also, I believe that you should not take the communion unworthily;

    1Corinthians 11:27-31

    in doing so the Bible says you will bring sickness and death to yourself. So I always pray and ask the Lord to forgive any sin in my life, examining my own heart, before I take the communion and I don't take it carelessly or lightly. But that's just me.

    I haven't heard anybody holding communion at church teach on this part of preparing yourself for the communion so that you may not bring sickness and death unto yourself .

    But once again that's my interpretation of the Scriptures. Please don't take my word for it read the Scriptures and pray and ask God for understanding.

    :-)Blessings
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Luke 22:18 - 3 years ago
    Recently, I was pondering in my mind with the LORD about this account & I knew there would be a discussion about this. For some of us it's easier to fight, much more difficult to submit to circumstances beyond our control; especially when it's unjust. I relate with Peter. I was thinking how Peter had come to the realization the Jesus was the CHRIST, MESSIAH. Jesus had just said : Luke 22:27-30.

    Is there much more knowledge we're supposed to get from this?

    Luke 22:36, Luke 22:38, 2 swords enough? Do you think Jesus was being literal or testing them? Do you feel the act of aggregation saved the Disciples? John 18:8-9, ( I've thought that) but look at: John 18:10. "Then._." it seems to be after Jesus had already set their pardon.

    Luke 22:40,42, Luke 22:43-46, Matthew 26:36-44, Mark 14:33-39, Zechariah 13:7, ( Mark 14:27 , Matthew 26:56 )

    Matthew 16:15-27,

    * Mark 14:27, offended? Matthew 26:33-35,

    Mark 14:42-50, Luke 22:47-51, John 18:10-11, Matthew 26:50-52, Were they offended because Jesus didn't fight, nor let them? after He had said to get swords? Would we be offended if Jesus healed our enemy, we thought we were defending Him from? Then rebuke them/Peter or us openly? John 18:6, Matthew 26:53,

    Luke 22:54, John 18:15, Why did Peter follow? Luke 22:33, Where is our strength? In our flesh & resolve, or GOD & HIS will?

    Mark 14:29-31,

    Luke 22:55-62,

    Matthew 10:17-22, Matthew 10:28-34,

    Acts 12:1-12,

    Romans 8:34-39,

    Ephesians 6:10-18,

    Do you think it was much easier to fight? Matthew 26:41, Luke 22:32,

    Isaiah 55:8-9,
  • Ben on Luke 22:18 - 3 years ago
    Verse 35 Jesus was saying how things were when he had been with them. Jesus in Verse 36 tells them he is giving them a change of orders.. (but now let him.. take his money back pack of gear, (i.e. script, where the word conscript comes from for a soldier, con meaning with and script a soliders backpack.) And their sword. Verse 37. He says this because it must be that the profesies about the crusifiction (numbers among the transgressors.. i.e. the thieves on either side of him on the cross) must be fufilled and this is his marching orders of how he wants us to be as we fulfill the great commission that he gave before he left. Sadly many Christian no longer follow Jesus Christ commandments to carry cash, backpack first aid and survival gear, and a sword (pistol or personal defences weapon/rifle etc) when every they go anywhere. I wonder how many people needlessly died because of disobeance of Christians unable to help those in need or heathen where provoked and encouraged to sin by attacking Christian's because following this command isn't common place. When old testament saints did this in Nehemiahs day agression and attacks were averted.
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Zetta11

    Yes, Jesus said that he will eat and drink in the Kingdom, so yes, we should eat and drink with Him!

    Luke 22:16-18

    16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.

    17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:

    18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

    God Bless
  • Rod - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Matthew 20:23 answers your question quite plainly, God the Father has prepared a seat on His right hand for His Son Jesus,

    Matthew 20:23 "And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father."

    Mark 10:40 "But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared."

    Mark 16:19 "So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God."

    Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."

    Luke 22:24-30 "And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;" "That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel."


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