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  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Ge.1:27 "Male and Female"

    "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

    Considering God is a Spirit and has a visible image in his Son, to embody His unseen qualities of holiness. This necessitates this curious expression. In his own image refers to Jesus Christ the visible image of the invisible God. ( Col. 1:15a) When the Spirit admonishes us, "Be ye holy, for I am holy" it is what the Word become flesh was. ""Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:"(1 Pe.2:22). At the end of his earthly ministry Jesus could say, " For the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me." ( John 14:30)

    When he set an example how could anyone say he has faith but deny the works? Jesus explained what was the work of God that any man may do. "This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent." He also said "Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart."(Matt.11:29-30) Without taking his yoke and learning of him through straight and narrow what nonsense do we hear of left, right, liberal as though a Christian may run with hares and hunt with jackals? Faith must be wrought in God, and not in the many causes the children of wrath espouse. "But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."( John 3:21;6:29) In his own image demands your total commitment so the glory of the knowledge in the face of our Savior we behold in our hearts and grow from glory to glory.

    Male and female created he them. In case of Adam, Eve was already represented as in the Fellowship of God with Man we have our destinies embedded in the Man component. The deep sleep in Adam foreshadows the death and resurrection of the Son. The Spirit narrates the creation of a holy family in him. Adam is a double for Jesus Christ who of God has become wisdom.(1 Co.1:30) Wisdom is the feminine principle. Pr.9:1 "Of whose are we' (He.3:6)
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jordyn

    Your thinking is from human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective- Matthew 16:23-23.

    In Romans 5:9 Paul was speaking of the salvation of the wrath, NOT of the salvation of the tribulation. It seems you don't know to distinghish between WRATH and TRIBULATION. When Paul, author of Romans, returned to Lystra, and Iconium and Antioch- Acts 14:22-, he said to the believers to exhort the disciples to continue in the faith, because we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of GOD(as is written in Revelation 11:15-18 and 1 Cor.15:24-26).

    Furthermore, you repetidly say in your post the Father WRATHED against His Son, the Christ, the Messiah, what you are preaching will NEVER happended, GOD the Father NEVER wrathed against His Son, so what you wrote is devilish, in fact is satanic. As was revealed to Isaiah "Surely he -JESUS, the Messiah- hath borne our griefs and carried our sorrows, He was WOUNDED for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the CHASTISEMENT WAS UPON HIM (NOT THE WRATH OF THE FATHER AS YOU IN MALIGN SENSE WROTE) and with His stripes we are healed. Yeah, GOD NEVER wrathed against His own Son. By the way, your evil post is a confirmation of what is written the Word of GOD: "he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth"- John 3:31:

    Your interpretation of Scriptures is not different of the man of sin, son of perdition- Genesis 3:1, but equal. GOD forbid us.

    Well, in fact "no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him- Matthew 11:27. It's it.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hey S Spencer,

    Part one.

    Thank you, brother, we will continue in love and respect that we both will grow.

    This is not an easy subject, and we must not let it divide. The one thing that concerns me is some can take this subject to mean they can never lose their salvation regardless. Some say that if a person reverts to sin again, they were never saved to begin with. I am saddened that I may not clearly explain my understanding of this.

    Salvation is a process beginning with justification then sanctification and ending with glorification when we are resurrected and we shall be like Him 1 John 3:2, this is our hope.

    It is not a percentage of the sins we commit; it is all our sins that will be blotted out. My understanding is salvation is a gift from God's grace, Eph. 2:8, We cannot earn this gift, but we must receive it according to God's terms.

    Acts 2:37-41 is this works? No, we acknowledge our faith that Jesus was sacrificed, and His blood was shed for the remission of our sins, and we choose to be obedient in repenting of our sins. It is the same obedience as Abraham when God told him to pick up and leave his country Abraham departed and Abraham was asked to do more and he did in faith and belief in God, Rom. 4:3.

    When we obey and repent of our sins we are justified, justification made righteous through the blood of Jesus 2 Cor. 5:21 Rom. 5:1-2. We move into sanctification through the Spirit of God when we are growing in the Lord. The ongoing work of God through the Spirit in our lives into the image of His Son Jesus Christ. Heb. 10:14 We are being made perfect daily by faith we strive to overcome our imperfections.

    See part two.
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear Bro Oases.

    I can only answer from the word of God,. "John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven." John 3:27 Ask and it shall be given That is what wisdom from heaven does. It is free. " But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated." (Jas.3:17). Neither you nor me can do otherwise.
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    "And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day." (v.8)

    God named heaven so our heavenly calling is not a random call. In separation of light from darkness his holiness set his seal of approval of the works of the light. "But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God." Works of light therefore have transparency as it were. The reason is simple. It is wrought in God. The Holy Spirit gives us a clear proof: Believe in the Son who He sent. "Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. " (John6:29) By the same token the chief priests, elders and those who rejected him, hated the true Light that made their evil point an accusatory finger at them. " For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved."( John 3:20-21)

    The Spirit gives us a sequence of events coming under the second day. The Spirit moved upon the face of the waters sets of their own development so steam rising when the sun heats a body of water to form clouds or wind blowing owing to variation in pressures obey laws of nature. These laws are subject to the Word which is the Law. Word is a sign so the spirit works. "The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."( John 3:8) This invisible quality of the Spirit that any heart can hear is in harmony with holiness of God. It is thus God separated waters. Consequently mercy of God from above can work with the earth. The firmament is a face, which when the three magi looked at it saw the wondrous sign."Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east,"(Matt.2:1-2) It is thus deep calls unto the deep which is non verbal communication of the Spirit.
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Dan

    As an encouragement to you,

    In Rom 6 Holy Spirit describes the certainty of God expectation of not continuing in sin & reveals the working of Grace as the divine power to accomplish the command. Peter says, God gives His Grace to the humble, meekness of heart, lowliness of mind is the pathway to receiving the power of Grace that we desperately need & it is Merciful kindness of God who will work this within us if we acknowledge the Truth about ourselves concerning growing in godliness, Jesus says, "without me you can do nothing". A love for God must be cutivated, for faith worketh by love & Gal 3:2 so obedience to the hearing of the Word of God "Grace" in our hearts we receive ever increasing measures of His Spirit, this is the faith that purifies the heart & will eventually be held in a pure conscience in the working out of our perfect salvation.

    In Rom 7 Holy Spirit reveals the interworking of Paul struggles, now that He found himself without the righteousness of the law, now having to die to this self efforts, what a struggle he had. At the end of 7 Holy Spirit starts to open to us, the Righteousness that is by faith, the hearing of the Word of God in the heart. the Grace of God that appears to all mankind bringing salvation Rom 7:25 picking up the Cross & denying the motions of the carnal minded flesh. Rom 8:2 reveals His Grace is the Law, & goes on to declare Rom 8:14 Revealing 1John 3:6, abiding in His Grace/Spirit/Light/Cross. For the Spirit of God will never lead us into sin. As we continue in the exercise of Grace, putting Christ on, 2Cor 4:6 we're in the working of Titus 3:5 1Pet 1:2 unto the new creature, Col 3:10 where 2Cor 5:17. Rom 8:29 reveals this sonship, the divine nature implanted being Rom 8:15-17 & in Him there is no sin or 1John 1:5,6 we're sinless

    All a free gift from our Father, yet must be appropriated by Faith, God causing us to will do of His good pleasure, for His own Name sake. Ezekiel 36:21-23 Isa 55:3

    Continue in His Love
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    "And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness."

    Holiness is His name. Mary mother of Jesus qualified God thus,'Holy is his name'. From whence came this knowledge? The Spirit moving upon the waters (v.2) sensitized every vapor that God is knowable. "The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly" accordingly gave Mary a measure of the invisible quality of God. How do we differentiate between good and evil? There is only one standard which is what we can infer from this short colloquy. "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God."( Mark 10:18). When God settled for light as good who shall contradict him? He as the Father of lights saw the light, that it was good. Amen.

    Light and darkness are alike unto him. His Son consequently is the true Light which has a great consequence. He named the light as His own. He called the light Day which from henceforth shall signify his holiness as radiating from His godhead, from his force of will. It is set as the law. "And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."( John 1:5). So children of light cannot remain hidden but shine forth boldly. "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;"(Ph.2:15)

    And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

    God separated two nations, children of light and children of darkness on the basis man responds to His holiness."But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."( John 3:21) Adam hid from the presence of God knowing that he disobeyed him.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Jordyn

    1 John 3:9, "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

    The above is an example of a misunderstanding that may occur when a scripture is not translated precisely. Well there is an excuse here since in this case there isn't a respective English term for the grk verb "amartano". It is translated "commit sin" but unlike the Engl. the grk indicates a continuous action, a continuous situation. This means that what the verse says is that whosoever is born of God does not keep sinning or living a sinful life because the seed/Word of God lives inside him. This doesn't mean that he never sins but he never lives a sinful life any more.

    Similarly 1 John 3:6, "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him." That "sinneth not" is not right, it shpuld be "sining not", a continuous condition.

    See 1 John 1:8-9, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

    Blessings
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen Bro dan:

    All men DIED (take up your cross and follow me in death), a NEW CREATION arose, the BODY of Christ, the bride, Christ's wife: and Christ being the HEAD of the BODY.

    1 John 3:9 Whosoever is BORN (new birth, being RAISED as the body of Christ, and Christ as the head of that body) doth not commit sin, BECAUSE his SEED (the word of God, truth, life) remaineth IN HIM (this mystery, Christ IN YOU), and he CANNOT SIN

    WHY can't we sin: BECAUSE

    Ezekiel 36:27 And I WILL put my SPIRIT (the Spirit that raised Christ) IN YOU, and I WILL CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and TO KEEP my judgements and DO THEM.

    It's not our works (in that day they will say, did WE NOT): we do nothing it's all the WORKS OF GOD.

    Revelation 2:26 .... and KEEPS my WORKS .....

    Isaiah 26:10 ....TOGETHER (as ONE), with my DEAD BODY shall they ARISE .....

    Revelation 21:5 ..... I MAKE all things NEW ......

    John 17:22 And the GLORY that thou GAVEST ME, I have given them, that as WE ARE ONE, that may be ONE .

    Christ was RAISED with eternal (IMMORTAL) LIFE, we are joint-heirs of that eternal LIFE

    1 Timothy 6:16 ... Christ ONLY hath IMMORTALITY, dwelling in the light .....

    1 Corinthians 15:53 ....this mortal MUST PUT ON IMMORTALITY ....

    1 Corinthians 15:38 ... and to every SEED ..... HIS OWN BODY ......

    1 Corinthians 12:27 ..... ye are the BODY of CHRIST ......

    God BLESS YOU!

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi GiGi,

    Thanks for your response regarding our struggle with sin. You asked the following: Are you intimating that only those who are living in a continuously sinless life are living godly lives? I will answer by stating: Here is scripture intimating that only those who are living sinless lives are living Godly lives.

    1 John 3:6 "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him."

    1 John 3:8 "He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil."

    1 John 3:9 "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

    Romans 6:6 "Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin."

    2 Corinthians 5:15 "And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again."

    How do you reconcile the above scripture?

    You asked where I'm at in my current walk with the Lord. I'm struggling as you, and apostle Paul, but I finally feel that now I am making progress toward my goal of being sanctified and sin free in this life. The Spirit has convicted me that I should stop using that old worn out excuse that "we can't stop sinning" as being acceptable anymore. I have no choice now but to accept this, and pick up my cross, and reject this world and the lust filled things of this world. I'm praying a lot more, (If we are praying we can't be sinning) focusing on God's/Jesus words throughout my day, and the Spirit is filling me with positive thoughts and healing my mind and body. I'm so blessed Gigi, I really want to help others make progress in achieving the love/sanctification in this life that Christ promises to us if we have Faith as big as a mustard seed!

    GBU
  • Oseas - In Reply on Leviticus 10 - 1 year ago
    "Rainwalker" and Giannis

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    About difference between soul and spirit, I also would like to highlight or point out the difference between HUMAN creation and other kind of animals. Genesis 1:24&26:

    24 GOD said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind(may the Earth produce, or produce the Earth), cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. But about man,(v.26) GOD said, Let us MAKE MAN in our image, after our likeness: ...

    If GOD had not breathed on man, this would be an animal like other animals in which GOD did not breathe the breath of life, in fact, that is why they do not speak a single word, even a letter, by nature.

    I am a fruit of the multiplication that GOD ordered around 6000 years ago. I was born in the last century, but the order of my birth was given by my GOD millennia ago. I was born under His everlating Word of course. Job 33:4 -The Spirit of GOD hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

    Having said that, I would like to highlight and emphasize that when GOD breathed the breath of life into man, He actually gave man the ability to speak with his mouth, and thus dominate the earthly environment. John 3:31-He that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth. So, he that is of above is above all.

    John 20:22 - when JESUS had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Spirit:

    Isaiah 2:22 - Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of ?

    Psalm 19:14 - Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.

    Amen
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Adam,

    Always nice to hear from you, and thanks for your input regarding sin.

    For some time now on this forum I have been questioning sin and the current Christian attitude toward sin. In particular the acceptance that each of us will always be sinners during our lives and never receiving the sanctification promised. I truly believe that acceptance of this "can't ever stop sinning mindset" doesn't help us to grow closer to God. I believe saying we can't stop sinning is just putting a mental stumbling block before ourselves and others. If we use the word CAN'T in any other challenge that we might want to accomplish in life, this will assure us that we wont succeed, so why should we be saying CAN'T when it comes to sin, which is the most important challenge/endeavour for any Christian!

    As a Christian living in sin and stating that we cant stop sinning how do we reconcile many bible verses including some of these.

    1 John 3:6, 1 John 3:8, 1 John 3:9, 1 John 3:24, Romans 6:6

    I understand that Paul and the other apostles struggled with sin, but we really don't know if they eventually became sin free. They may have, and I tend to believe that they all did, and we know they gave up everything for Christ including their lives. My point is, and you may or may not agree, I believe we don't help ourselves or others by continually saying we Can't overcome sin. This is a defeatist mindset, and lulls us into a conscience acceptance of a certain level of sin in our lives.

    My goal in life is to work toward being sin free. In conjunction with the Holy Spirit I have made progress toward this goal. I have finally learned to really fear God, and listen to Him, and Christ. I also used to believe in my heart that as a human I would always be a sinner, I don't believe that anymore, thanks to the hard lessons and conviction by the Holy Spirit.

    GBU
  • Frankie J - 1 year ago
    2 of 2

    , that we must pickup, teaching us to deny these ungodly & worldly lust, & pleasures of this world, which spring up within us & also instructs us in works of righteousness unto holiness this is Christ Spirit / Grace / Light appearance in us to combat the spirits of darkness that appears. Ephesians 6:12 it not without only, Jesus says it's within our hearts Matt 15:19 2Cor 10:5,6

    Friends

    Awake to Righteousness & in time through the exercising of Him, the Grace of God, you'll sin not & be conformed to His Image

    For He only become Hebrews 5:9

    Are have you been deceived by those Paul warned us about in

    2 Timothy 4:3,4 Jude 1:4 Believing against Scriptural Truth, that turn the Grace of God into wantonness, that you can live a life of sin & iniquity & have a faith that never overcome satan, & still be born again, Spirit baptized, & a light that set upon a hill, if this be true of you, your in the Apostasy, the deceitfulness of sin/satan has ensnare you. 2 Thess 2:10-12 is fulfilling upon you, your faith is a lie, John 3:18-20 Rom 1:25

    Friends,

    The working out of our salvation, the sanctification of the Spirit unto obedience, washing of regeneration & renewing of the Holy Ghost is on this side of the grave. What spiritual state we're in when we die, is the state we will be judge in! & if the 1Pet 4:18 be not decieived, 1John 3:7,8,11

    I've spoken this to many people, their response is 'that God is loving, gracious & merciful" very true, that why He sent His only begotten Son to provide a Way, through His Grace & Mercy to overcome the devil & become more than conquerors, through Him that loves us,. This is the whole revelation of the better Covenant, build on better promises, Grace & Mercy takes us out of sin, it's the Rom 8:2 it doesn't leave us in our sins, to pacifying us, saying Oh it's ok we know you can't be perfect, the lie.

    Friends

    For the sake of God's great love wherewith He has demonstrated in sending His Son, consider your state 2Cor 13:5
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Ze.14:9-11 (1 of 2)

    "Universal Peace"

    "And theLordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be oneLord, and his name one."

    The Lord God is one to which there is no dispute. The Spirit establishes in the vision of Daniel his status. He is the sovereign Lord,- the Ancient of Days who confers dominion to the Man. "

    I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him./And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."(Dan.7:13-14)

    Jesus is the Son of man who dwelt among us and he was in a human likeness but with a divine mandate. John 3:16. God sent his Son to the earth whom we received as our Savior. The vision of the golden candlestick (Ch.4). The Spirit established position of man in relation of the Ancient of Days. The candlestick is 'Christ in us' and the two anointed ones in the two olive trees are spirit (12:1) and soul, both from God. Thus we are fellow-laborers with the risen Christ. We are anointed consequently "that stand by theLordof the whole earth. "(4:14). If so what has activism of the Evangelicals to do with us? We cannot hunt with dogs as well as run with hares. We are to stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

    The day of Regeneration must come when he comes int his dominion, the kingdom of his dear Son. "Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power./For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet./The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death".(1 Co.15:24-26)

    There is another day in which God may be in us all. That sets the Fellowship of God with Man an eternal verity.
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jim

    from your answer, you used the words "should lead a life of obedience" this is in character of today's Christianity

    would you agree that those who reject the Grace of God appearance in them, not believing that it is He who is speaking to them in their hearts, the conviction of sin & of righteousness are deluded in their false hopes of salvation? Though they may zealously profess themselve born again Christians, contrary to Truth Rom 6 1John 3:9, who continuing in unbelief & sin for life, not believing that all things are possible with God. including a state of sinlessness, which includes becoming a partaker of His divine nature having escape the corruption of this world through lust, "a past tense" statement, reaching a state of Grace perfection were love is perfected in them according to

    1John 2:5-6 1John 5:18 Rom 8:29

    For we know that God is the same yesterday & today & forever meaning

    His Word Isa 55:11 which is the Word of Faith that Paul preached. Rom 10:11

    In Holy Spirit commanded exhortation in 1Cor 15:34

    If one believes to never expects to reach a state of perfection of the Divine Nature in this life, than its stands to Scripture & sound reasoning that, that person have not receive the true knowledge of God, but a form of godliness without the power, an image without the Spirit & the Life of the Son of God, for the nature of true saving faith purifies the heart, which faith is held in a pure conscience by which

    The Blood of Jesus cleanses from all sin, redeem from all iniquity, & implants the divine nature were one sins no more.

    Heb 10:1,2,26

    I believe one of mankind greatest sins is not being as we were created, Gen 1:27 & I believe God sent His Son to making this possible again, even to a higher state Rom 8:17 Gal 3:29
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Koosees,

    Thanks for the Wonderful verses relating to sin and how so much scripture tells us "over and over" that sin interferes directly with our expected/anticipated salvation.

    I will add a few more here.

    1 John 3:8 "He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil."

    1 John 3:9 "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

    1 John 1:6 "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:"

    As Christains we should take these verses to heart!

    GBU
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Friends,

    How do you explain what Holy Spirit says in 1Cor 15:34 Romans 6-8 & 1John 3:6-9 ?

    & what Jesus says in John 8:34 Matt 5:48 ?
  • Jsz357 on John 13 - 1 year ago
    KJV+, John 3:5: "5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

    Everyone is born of water it's your physical birth in OT it was tradition be baptized in water NT every time mothers water breaks child is born of water, but be born of spirit you have to make that decision to be born of spirit because we are in grace administration

    KJV+, Rom 10:9-13: "9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

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  • ARodrigo - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Interesting story. I have one question and it is a BIG one. Having accepted that gift from that lady, have you accepted the free gift of Salvation? Did you call on the Lord to save you and accept his free gift of Salvation. If you have a Bible, then please read the following verses:

    Rom. 3:23, Rom. 5:8, Rom. 6:23, Rom. 10: 9, 10 and 13

    This is the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. His death, burial and resurrection. The Lord Jesus Christ died for you because He loved you unconditionally. John 3:16 and 17 says it all.

    Call on Him to save you from the fires of hell and write your name in the Lamb's book of life. I pray that you will be saved.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Conclusions (for now) on OSAS

    I have always stated that in the end; God has a certain number of people that enter hell; and a set number in heaven and since God is fair and an impartial judge ( Romans 2:11) that no one will be able to prove Him wrong; or even want to question the final verdict. The wicked will be speechless and the righteous rejoice forever. This settles any issues with OSAS or Predestination for that matter; and even free will. There are those who hate the light and love darkness ( John 3:19-21).

    There are as I mentioned before HUNDREDS of verses that on the surface may appear to render the OSAS concept void; but when we consider the context; the concluding meanings of the text and other factors more often than not it appears to support this idea. Again the scriptures that indate there is no longer any condemnation ( Romans 8:1) for believers; we have "passed from death to life ( John 5:24); will never die ( John 11:25) and a plethora of other supporting texts shows eternal security for a TRUE believer in Christ.

    My emphasis was on the FRUIT of one's life rather than just what is verbalized. One's heart determines their course of action; the righteous is contrasted with the wicked shown in passages such as Mark 7:20-23. Christ for the wicked is a means to an end; whether it be financial security (such as for those who buy into the prosperity gospel or are out to borrow money and fleece those who are called to follow passages such as Luke 6:30.) Christ for the righteous on the other hand is God in the flesh and we are compelled through the Spirit and a new heart to serve with love and obedience (See John 14:15 and read rest of the chapter for further context). Again; loving our enemies and dying for them isn't something natural man will do (see Romans 5:7-9). If we understand the indebtedness we have to Christ and not just a band aid for our sin behavior but a death sentence to our SIN NATURE through the new life in Christ we are saved.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Jema,

    Thank you, John 3:16 God has given us a promise that through faith in Him and the one He sent, His Son Jesus Christ who died on the cross for us, that we will not perish but have eternal life. Eternal life is a gift of God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Salvation is not about where we will spend eternity, without this gift there is no eternity for man.

    Rev. 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Abel

    The second son of Adam was a shepherd. He foreshadows Christ the Good Shepherd. His offering from the firstlings of the flock pleased God more than of Cain.

    How did Abel settle upon a burnt offering? To the pure God shall show himself as pure. ("With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure, "-Ps.18:26). Abel is qualified as righteous. (1 John 3:12)

    Faith is the pure language by which he understood the truth 'Without shedding of blood is no remission' (He.9:22). Here is an example of the wisdom from heaven. "But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy."(Jas.3:17). Besides God first demonstrated when He first dressed his parents with coats of skins. (Ge.3:21).

    He was killed by his older brother Cain in a fit of jealousy and became the first martyr.Matt.23:35.

    "Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength " (Ps,8:2; Matt.21:16) I was four years old and my Sunday school teacher asked what God was like. But I had an answer that amazed my teacher that he would repppeatt o my father some forty years later. It must have seemed a childish nonsense. Does God throw stones from above on the bad? Now I know from reading Re.18:21 that he does so the mighty Babylon is wiped off from the earth. It made me realize how Abel would have known to please God. To the pure He shall reveal his mysteries. Some 75 years later I knew my life began ages ago.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Daruled,

    We cannot say Satan made me do it, we are responsible if we sin.

    What is death? Is it just the body that dies and our conscious soul, lives on somewhere outside the body? This started when the serpent said to Eve, Ye shall not surely die, you will be as gods. Most pagan religions have an afterlife where the soul lives forever. In the Bible, the OT is the word Sheol meaning the grave and death was sleep with no knowledge or consciousness, nowhere is the immortal soul in the Bible.

    When Adam and Eve sinned, they were taken out of the garden and forbidden eternal life/immortality from the Tree of Life, Gen. 3:24. When the OT was translated into Greek Sheol became Hades with the Greek meaning that came with it, and in English, it's Hell with the same Greek meaning, the soul separates from the body and the conscious souls goes to a place of the dead. Many believe there is either eternal life with Jesus or eternal damnation in Hell/lake of fire where they will be tormented for eternity.

    If we say our soul is immortal, we are saying we are gods because we cannot die. But the Bible says without the gift of eternal life given to us in the resurrection we will die the second death, we will perish, be destroyed forever to be no more. Romans 6:23 Psalms 37:10-13 Psalms 92:7 Proverbs 10:25, 29 John 3:16 2 Peter 2:10-12, they are mortal and will perish.

    The unrighteous will be destroyed/perish, they will have their part in the lake of fire, Rev. 21:8. Their death is forever, not forever in torment. When we die our destiny is fixed, there is not a second chance after death. This adoption of the Greek philosophy of the immortal soul and Hades fogs our understanding, it plugs our ears that are to hear.

    I could say more but I will leave it here, I hope you will study for the truth. We should empty our minds in prayer where we are open to the truth given by the Spirit of Truth, not led by the traditions of men, Colossians 2:8.

    RLW
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Daruled

    Who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth- John 3:31. Your earthly and devilish verbiage and chatter is good for nothing, what matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, self-executing, understand? By the way, be sure that your satanic spiritual guide( 2Corinthians 11:12-15) will be cast down into the bottomless pit from now on, day by day, understand?- Revelation 20:3.

    Furthermore, the LAST and main partner of your spiritual guide according Genesis 3:1-, he will be elected soon, that is the LAST Beast to be elected- Revelation 13:1- called Vicarivs Filii Dei, a filii of Devil; he will be cast into the lake of fire - Revelation 19:19-20 - burning with brimstone by the Power of the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD-self-executable- , understand? including their followers, those which he deceived(have been deceived) and received (have received) the mark of the Beast, and they worshipp the Beast making a signal of CROSS- CROSS is CURSE - with right HAND completing the satanic sign on FOREHEAD-AS WAS PROPHESIED- Revelation 13:16- combined with Isaiah 44:20.

    These will be cast alive into the hell's fire from now on- 2 Peter 3:7 combined withn Revelation 19:19-20, even in this LORD's Day, in this seventh and last Day, that is the seventh and last millennium, the current millennium, THE MILLENNIUM OF CHRIST, according the righteous Judgment of GOD, the Judgment Seat of Christ.

    Get ready, for Revelation 21:8 will LITERALLY be fulfilled: "the fearful(the COWARDS), and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    Get ready
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    End of introduction to OSAS

    Once saved always saved is kind of like the word "Rapture"; the verses about being sealed with the Spirit until the Day of Redemption ( Eph. 4:30) basically indicate that once HIS work is completed we cannot "undo" it. We have passed from "death to life" ( John 5:24) if we truly believe; and 1 John 3:14 shows the same author indicating EVIDENCE through loving one another (specifically the brethren) that we are saved; as well as showing that if WE DON'T we are liars and the truth is not in us ( 1 John 4:20).

    My first point is that there is always evidence of the Hope that is within us if it truly exists ( 1 Peter 3:15). The second point goes with it that we preach the truth; any other Gospel is "anathema" ( Gal. 1:8-9). Interestingly; 1 Corinthians 16:22 2 verses before the end of the book state that if any man does NOT love the Lord Jesus Christ let him be "anathema". These two verses domenstate we need truth and love; one doesn't work independently of the other.

    I will make a general statement for my third point. The more knowledge we have; the more responsibility we have. Hence; there is greater punishment for those who walk away from the truth and go back to the world than those who never knew it in the first place ( 1 Peter 2:20-21). We only need to look at Lucifer himself to see how pride brought his judgment without mercy; since he was a Cheribum that led worship of music in heaven itself for an unknown time; created perfect in all his ways before that time ( Ezekiel 28:15).

    The fourth point is related to the third; that much head knowledge apart from the inner man being renewed daily ( 2 Cor. 4:16) is at best a fruitless venture; at worst again leads to greater damnation without accompanying faith. Such a man often obsesses on one doctrine and ignores the integrity of all scripture; or worse can justify a sin by not being a Berean and "rightly dividing the Word" ( 2 Tim. 2:15) despite what all their church friends may say.
  • Daruled - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jema,

    Thank you. I'm sorry that you feel that I berate. I get why you might think that I berate, but Truly it's done in LOVE. What I'm Professing is The Truth, you see, everyone is missing The Message! I'm NOT speaking against the holy bible, I'm rebuking Any declarations that a book is God! God is SO MUCH MORE! A book doesn't "bring" anyone closer to God, and you wonder HOW God reveals Himself to people, Romans 2:13-16. And here is The Prophecy from which it came Jeremiah 31:31-34. You think I call the holy bible frivolous? I call the holy bible holy, just, and good. But, I will never call the holy bible God. Everyone is so incensed that their anger is causing them to sin.

    Jema, you ask for a Revelation to "prove" that God has sent me with His Message. Well, Christ was asked the same, Luke 11:29-30; so, what is The Sign of Jonah? Jonah hated the Ninevites, so the Ninevites had No reason to listen to Jonah because Jonah made his distaste obvious. The sign of Jonah is God sending a man who is disliked and even hated to people, who dislike and hate him, to declare their destruction. Why? For if the people "Listen" to their hatred then they will not hear God in the message, but if the people "put away" their hatred they may avoid Destruction.

    Jema, you ask me to imagine how quarrelsome we would be without the Bible, very quarrelsome indeed; but, I ask you to imagine how MUCH Faith we would have as a consequence. You see, if everyone yells for you to go left, but God's Holy Spirit directs you right, And you obey God, my God, The Wonders we would witness!

    Jema, you ask why the people killed Christ. I tell you, it wasn't because they didn't know He was the Messiah! John 3:1-3 the Pharisees killed Christ because He came to take away their power as priests of God; they were necessary to the people because if a person wanted to seek God, they had to go to them. God "did away with this by making All people a holy nation and priests! Put away anger and Listen!
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Daruled

    The Word is GOD, GOD the Father, two thousand years ago the Word -GOD- was made flesh, and the NAME He chose for He Himself was JESUS( John 1:18).

    Hebrews 1:2-3:- 2 In these last days (last two days) GOD has spoken unto us by His Son,whom He hath appointed heir of all things,by whom also He made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of His Glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE OF GOD's PERSON -the Word-...He sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high.

    1 John 5:7 - There are THREE that (TESTIFY)bear record in heaven,the Father(the Person of GOD the Father-the Word),the Word (GOD Son-the Word made flesh-JESUS),and the Holy Spirit-the Paraclete,the Confort- John 16:12-15 combined with Jn 15:26 (who is not a ghost as is written in English language, but a Person, actually the Ancient of Days- Daniel 7:22, and the God of the earth- Revelation 11:4):these three are One.

    By the way, Judgment was(will be) given to the saints of the most High;the time came that the saints possessed(will posses)the kingdom-Dan.7:22-(in LITERAL fulfillment of Rev.11:15to18.Take a look.)

    Unfortunatelly, Your thinking is from a human perspective,a stumblingblock,not from GOD's perspective.Who is of the earth is earthly,and speaks of the earth- John 3:31-who is from above is above all.

    JESUS said:He that believeth on me,as the Scriptures-the Bible- hath said,out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water- Jn 7:38.And more:Search the Scriptures(the Bible);for in them ye think ye have Eternal Life:and they are they which testify of me- Jn 5:39.

    JESUS said to the Devil:Man shall not live by bread alone,but by every word that proceedeth out of the MOUTH of GOD-Mat.4:4. By the way,GOD who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,Hath in these last days(last two Days or two millenia)spoken unto us by His Son,whom He has appointed heir of all things,by whom also he made the worlds-Heb.1:1-3

    Be careful or get ready

    The Word is GOD,self-executing
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Daruled

    You wrote to Jimbob:

    "the holy bible is only a book;

    "the TRUE Word of God is The Holy Spirit not a book of paper and ink"

    "God(The Holy Spirit)makes things make sense rather than a book".

    Your thinking is from a human perspective,a stumblingblock,not from GOD's perspective.Who is of the earth is earthly,and speaks of the earth- John 3:31-who is from above is above all,so if you really belived in the Holy Scriptures,you would never say or write what you said above,belittling or underestimating the Book of the Lord,in fact a library of 66 books,called Bible,where you can read even the content that GOD Himself wrote with his finger, understand?

    JESUS said:He that believeth on me,as the Scriptures-the Bible- hath said,out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water- John 7:38. And more:Search the Scriptures(the Bible);for in them ye think ye have Eternal Life:and they are they which testify of me- John 5:39.JESUS also says unto every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book(of the Bible),If any man shall add unto these things,GOD shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:if any shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,GOD shall take away his part out of the book of life,and out of the holy city,and from the things which are written in this book(of the Bible)

    JESUS said to the Devil:Man shall not live by bread alone,but by every word that proceedeth out of the MOUTH of GOD-Mat.4:4.By the way,GOD who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son,whom He has appointed heir of all things,by whom also he made the worlds;Who being the brightness of His glory,and the EXPRESS IMAGE OF GOD's PERSON,and upholding all things by the Word of His power,when He had by Himself purged our sins,sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high- Hebrews 1:1-3

    Be careful or then get ready, the Word is GOD,self-executable, OK?
  • Jim Miller - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you, Giannis for your reply.

    1 John 3:4 (KJV) 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

    Just in my humble opinion, I feel the Holy Spirit moved the translator to render it "law" in the KJV.

    As you stated "There were always oral commandments given by God to His people. Even in the garden of Eden, the commandment(Law) was not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and the evil." As I suspected, to put it another way, the law may have been referencing the "law" in God's heart.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    The exact translation of John 3:4 from grk:

    Pas(Everyone) o poion(who is doing) ten amartian(the sin) kai ten anomian(and the lawlessness) poiei(is doing), kai e amartia (and the sin) einai e anomia (is the lawlessness).

    And you are right about the verb "poieo", in this specific verse it has the meaning of a continual behavior, expressed by the present continuous tense, as you said.

    About the Law. Before it was given a written Law to Moses, there were always oral commandments given by God to His people. Even in the garden of Eden the commandment(Law) was not to eat from the tree of knowledge the good and the evil. Breaking God's commandments oral or written was always a sin. But the right and complete Law(commandments) that reflect God's character (what God does really consider right) were given to us by Jesus Christ in His teachings and subsequently written down in the Bible by His disciples and hence preserved for all people of all ages.


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