"We believe that there is but one God, who is a Spirit, and the Creator of all things, the Father of all, over and through or in all, in us all; who is to ne worshiped in spirit and truth; to whom alone we look, as the Giver of life, raiment and food, as well as health and sickness, prosperity and adversity; Him we love as the author of all good, and fear Him as the discerner of our hearts.
We believe, that Jesus Christ is the Son and image of the Father, in whom dwells all the fullness of the Godhead; by whom we know as the Father; who is our Mediator and Advocate; and there is no other name under heaven given unto men, whereby we may be saved. In His name alone we worship the Father, and pour out no prayers before God, save those contained in the Holy Scriptures, or which fully agree with the sense of the same.
We believe, that we have a Comforter, the Holy Ghost, who proceeds from the Father and the Son; by whose inspirations we pray, and through whose effectual operation we are regenerated. This Holy Ghost operates in us all good works, and by Him we are led into all truth."
Pochalla, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and His knowledge.
Let's try with the Spirits working to perceive what the Spirit calls the DAY OF THE LORD.
Amos 5:18-21 Woe unto you that DESIRE THE DAY OF THE LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the Lord is DARKNESS, AND NOT LIGHT.
(20) Shall not the DAY OF THE LORD be darkness and not light? even very dark and no brightness in it?
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned in darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE THE GREAT AND THE TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD COME.
Is this prophecy yet in the future or has it already been fulfilled? Other scriptures and the symbols represented in them provide the answers.
Psalm 89:34-37 .....(36) His (David's) seed (Christ) shall endure forever, and his (Christ) throne as the sun before me. (vs) It (Christ and his throne) shall be established forever as the MOON, AND AS A FAITHFUL WITNESS IN HEAVEN.
Revelation 1:5 And from JESUS CHRIST, who is my FAITHFUL WITNESS IN HEAVEN. The Psalm says the MOON is the faithful witness implying the moon is symbolic of Jesus.
The prophecy says the sun shall be turned into darkness, and the MOON into blood. Has this already happened?
Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there out BLOOD...
THE DAY OF THE LORD is every day and has been going on now for two thousand years.
Christ through the working of the Holy Spirit has been coming (the second time lake a thief in the night to those who look for him).
Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; AND UNTO THEM THAT LOOK FOR HIM SHALL HE APPEAR THE SECOND TIME WITHOUT SIN UNTO SALVATION.
Sheri, the Spirit has graced you with his wisdom and understanding. Most don't understand that THE DAY OF THE LORD has been going on for 2000 years.
Amos 8:9 And it shall come to pass in THAT DAY, saith the Lord God, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in a clear day.
Matthew 27:45 And from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned in darkness, and the MOON into blood, BEFORE the terrible DAY OF THE LORD come.
Psalm 89:36 It (his seed, Christ) shall be established for ever as the MOON, and as a faithful witness in heaven.
Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is my FAITHFUL WITNESS......
John 19:34 .....and forthwith came there out blood and water.....
Zachariah 14:7 IT SHALL BE ONE DAY which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass at evening time it shall be light.
It still isn't light and 2000 years has already passed.
Hopeful, may the Spirit grace you with his (spiritual) knowledge and his (spiritual) wisdom.
John 6:63 ....... the words that I ( 1 Peter 1:11,the Spirit of Christ or 1 Peter 1:21,the Holy Ghost or 2 Samuel 23:1-2, the Spirit of the Lord or Revelation 19:10,the words of Jesus) speak unto you, they (words) are spirit, and they (words) are life.
The day of the Lord is prophecy about a spiritual day; but, a day in spiritual time is not necessarily a day in natural time ( 2 Peter 3:8).
Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterwards (after the day of the Lord), that I (Spirit) will will pour my spirit upon all flesh......
Since the Spirit (Holy Ghost) was poured out on all mankind at pentecost; therefore, the day of the Lord begin at pentecost and is continuing to this day 2000 years later in natural time; but, only one day in spiritual time.
Second witness:
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon (symbolic of Christ)..... Psalm 89:35-36 And it (the throne of Christ, from the proceeding verse) shall be established forever as the moon, and as a FAITHFUL WITNESS in heaven...... Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the FAITHFUL WITNESS.......into blood before the terrible (wonderful) day of the Lord (pentecost) come.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he (the Lamb) had opened the sixth seal, and lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth hair, and the moon (symbolic of Christ) became as blood.....
Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
Matthew 27:51 ........and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent.
John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there blood and water.
Revelation 8:1 And when he (the Lamb) had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half hour (spiritual time not natural time)
This time was the time between Christ resurrection and the day of the Lord (pentecost)
In John chapter 3, we have the account of Nicodemus, a Pharisee, a religious leader who adhered strictly to the Law but lacked spiritual understanding to what God was truly seeking in him & us. When he approached Jesus at night, Jesus perceived that his lovely statement about Him ("Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him."), was veiled with the inference that 'I too am a devoted teacher of God's Word & obedient to every command of God'. Jesus, seeing right into his heart as Jesus usually did with people, came out with, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
At this comment, Nicodemus must have thought ('marvelled'): "this is something new I've never heard of before". Or more likely, he believed that he had one up on Jesus, that He speaks with forked tongue when saying that a re-birth (or, a second chance) must be given to a person to come out for another try to be righteous enough to enter God's Kingdom. So Jesus went on to explain that was not the meaning, but that just as in a physical birth (by water), so there must be a spiritual birth (a rebirth by God's Spirit) to enter God's Presence. In the flesh, we are sinners destined for punishment, as those devoid of God & spurning His Love for us. But when we repent from our sins & turn to God by faith in Jesus' Work at Calvary, then a spiritual re-birth takes place, whereby our human spirit is renewed & refreshed by God's Spirit.
Of course, the story in John 3 was pre-Cross, but the Truth was laid out before Nicodemus, & we can only wonder how those words he heard from Jesus would have affected his heart at the time of Jesus' crucifixion. We know that in John 19:39, Nicodemus voluntarily spent much money to purchase the necessary embalming ingredients for Jesus' Body, which might indicate something of a spiritual work in him earlier on & culminating at the Cross.
Hi again Claire. Thank you for reading that lengthy sermon - it was heavy going. I had to re-read it quickly to find the portion I think you're referring to. The part that seemed significant is:
"God cannot write his law in our inward parts till with water and with blood he has purged us. Tables on which the Lord shall write must be clean, therefore the heart on which God is to engrave his law must be a cleansed heart; and it is a great joy to perceive that from the person of our Lord heart-cleansing blood and water flowed, so that the provision is equal to the necessity. Blessed be the name of our gracious God, he knows how to erase the evil and to cleanse the soul through his Holy Spirit's applying the work of Jesus to us."
If this is the portion, then I don't believe Spurgeon is referring to water baptism or the requirement to be baptised first & then born again - that would be totally erroneous. His mentioning "water & blood" is his direct reference to 1 John 5:6, 7: "This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
There have been several interpretations of this "by water & blood". I feel it indicates Jesus' physical birth (water) & He speaks of this in John 3:5 & then the "blood": of His Sacrifice. Or, Spurgeon could even be recalling the water & blood that issued out of the Lord whilst on the Cross ( John 19:34). We're unclear but it wasn't anything to do with water baptism which can only be taken after first being born again by faith in Jesus's Sacrifice & the indwelling & renewal of the Holy Spirit.
Medical Explanation of Jesus39s Death - In Reply on 1 John 5 - 5 years ago
John 19:31-34
The bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath the Jews asked Pilate that the legs might be broken and that they might be taken away. The soldiers came and broke the legs of the 1st and 3rd prisoners. Jesus was already dead, they did not break his legs. But one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, there came out blood and water." Why did blood and water come out of Jesus' side??
Crucifixion typically resulted in death through one of two ways: The first was HYPOVOLEMIC shock. The prolonged rapid heartbeat resulting from hypovolemic shock can cause fluid to gather in the area around the heart. This is called pericardial effusion.
The second way death occurred during crucifixion was due to asphyxiation. The person is unable to breathe in enough oxygen to survive. Crucifixion victims had to pull their weight up with their hands or wrists that were nailed; along with pushing up with the feet or ankles that had another nail through them. Over time, the ability to push up to breathe would end and oxygen flow would be restricted. *This asphyxiation can also result in the buildup of fluid around the heart.
In either case, the account of John is quite accurate. The Romans saw that the other two crucifixion victims were still alive and broke their legs so they would no longer be able to push themselves up to breathe, resulting in death within minutes. Jesus, they saw He had become unconscious and likely was already dead. To confirm, a spear was shoved into His side, likely under His ribs, that ruptured the PERICARDIAL sack, resulting in a flow of both blood and water.
This manner of death was a brutal end for Jesus, there was also prophetic significance to this event. John states in John 19:36-37, "For these things took place that the Scripture might be fulfilled: 'Not one of his bones will be broken. And again another Scripture says, They will look on him whom they have pierced.
The Medical Explanation Of Jesus39s Death - In Reply on John 3:16 - 5 years ago
John 19:31-34 So the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath the Jews asked Pilate that the legs might be broken and that they might be taken away. The soldiers came and broke the legs of the 1st and 3rd prisoners. Jesus was already dead, they did not break his legs. But one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, there came out blood and water." Why did blood and water come out of Jesus' side??
Crucifixion typically resulted in death through one of two ways: The first was HYPOVOLEMIC shock. The prolonged rapid heartbeat resulting from hypovolemic shock can cause fluid to gather in the area around the heart. This is called pericardial effusion.
The second way death occurred during crucifixion was due to asphyxiation. The person is unable to breathe in enough oxygen to survive. Crucifixion victims had to pull their weight up with their hands or wrists that were nailed; along with pushing up with the feet or ankles that had another nail through them. Over time, the ability to push up to breathe would end and oxygen flow would be restricted. *This asphyxiation can also result in the buildup of fluid around the heart.
In either case, the account of John is quite accurate. The Romans saw that the other two crucifixion victims were still alive and broke their legs so they would no longer be able to push themselves up to breathe, resulting in death within minutes. Jesus, they saw He had become unconscious and likely was already dead. To confirm, a spear was shoved into His side, likely under His ribs, that ruptured the PERICARDIAL sack, resulting in a flow of both blood and water.
This manner of death was a brutal end for Jesus, there was also prophetic significance to this event. John states in John 19:36-37, "For these things took place that the Scripture might be fulfilled: 'Not one of his bones will be broken. And again another Scripture says, They will look on him whom they have pierced.
Rhema is the word of God spoken to your spirit, quickened to your soul. The word that is hot and relevant to your current situation and condition. Rhema is personal and effective, it comes from the depth of God's heart, His spirit into your heart & your spirit. It imparts vigor, energy, strength, power, passion and fervency to you.
All the Old Testament prophets received Rhema from God which made a way for them in the spiritual wilderness. Elijah received a Rhema word from God which not only fed him in famine but saved the life of the widow and her son; gave them a continual supply of food when all around them was in draught.
His word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones Jeremiah 20:9
Rhema cries out to you, loud and clear.
When you are reading your Bible, a scripture jumps out of the page to speak to you, or a verse highlighted by the Holy Spirit to enlighten and direct your path. Whatever God tells you to do, He will equip you to do it; wherever God tells you to go, He will prepare for you the way to get there.
The fellowship with God in His Word is vital. The fire, the fervency, the calling comes when you fellowship with God in His Word. For you are face to face with Jesus!
Revelation of John 19:13: and his name is called The Word of God.
The Word imparts vision to you. You become a fired up, proactive, purposeful, God-sent person. Gone are the days of laziness, inactivity and boredom. Your life is no longer "a waste of time"! You become focused, organized and purposeful.
A lot of people out there find life so boring that they have to resort to drugs, alcohol, loud music etc to give them a high; but then when the illusion is gone, they are left worse than before. A person who suffers from depression swings between highs and lows. why? It's because they are not living a "real life", the God given life in Christ Jesus!
There is life in the Word, it is the life of God, the God kind of life.
1 Corinthians 10:13 even applied to *JESUS*. no occasion of stumbling be found in *HIM*. Praise Our *LORD*.
Matthew 27:32, And as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name: him they compelled to bear his cross.
Mark 15:21 And they compel one Simon a Cyrenian, who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross.
Luke 23:26 And as they led him away, they laid hold upon one Simon, a Cyrenian, coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross, that he might bear it after Jesus.
John 19: 16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.
17 And he (Simon of Cyrene 3 witnesses tell us) bearing *HIS* cross went forth unto a place called the place of a skull. Much misleading Art, some showing a scarcely scratched, loin clothed *JESUS*, and false teachers who break Bible principles: No single verse is of private interpretation.
Leaving us, who all were Lambs once, with deceptive images, and at times, false witness to pass on which is nigh Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or MAKETH A LIE: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and MAKETH A LIE.
Cursed is the man who trusteth in man: Be a Berean and trust in the WORD, Zeph 2:3.Seek ye the Lord, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the Lord's anger.
Ephesians 4:15 but speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, CHRIST.16 from whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love. GBU
The Hebrew calendar used at the time of Jesus counted a full day from sunset to sunset, not midnight to midnight.
The Hebrew 24 hour period of time is broken up into two 12 hour segments. The first segment is from 6 pm until 6 am. The second segment is from 6 am until 6 pm.
6pm - 6am = 1st set of 12 hours- "third hour of the night" Acts 23:23 (9 pm)
6am - 6pm = 2nd set of 12 hours- "third hour of the day" Acts 2:15 (9 am)
The "third hour" of the day in Mark 15:25 when Christ was crucified is 9 am
The "ninth hour" when He gave up the ghost is 3 pm.
Look at Sixth hour, Ninth hour, eleventh hour, Matthew 20:5
Right on! Just as Johah said; "Three days AND three nights" Jonah 1:17.
Jesus died on what we call Wednesday just before sundown.
Wednesday sundown to Thursday sundown = 1 day (first night and day in the tomb)
Thursday sundown to Friday sundown = 1 day (second night and day in the tomb)
Friday sundown to Saturday sundown = 1 day (third night and day in the tomb)
Mary came to the sepulchre at daybreak Sunday.
Look at Matthew 12:40.
Jesus rose at some time between Saturday sundown and Sunday morning.
The "high day" of John 19:31 was the first day of the feast (Passover), and is considered a high holy Sabbath day.
The first day of the Feast was a Thursday (15th day of Nisan- April 3/4). The 15th day of Nisan commenced at sunset on what we would still call the 14th.
Jesus was crucified on the 14th, the "preparation day" ( John 19:31), and by law the crucified bodies should not remain on the cross on a Sabbath day. Jesus was put in the tomb before sunset on Wednesday the 14th.
The "first day of the week" ( Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:1-2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1-), the day of the Resurrection, was from our Saturday sunset to Sunday sunset.
Jesus was to be the Lamb slain, and His crucifixion took place on the "preparation day" ( John 19:14) when all lambs were slaughtered for the great Passover Feast the NEXT day.
The Last Supper DID NOT take place on the day of Passover, look at Matthew 27:62, Mark 15:42, Luke 23:54, John 19:14, John 19:31-42.
The "third day" of Matthew 16:21 is not the third day of the great Feast, but the third day of our Lord and Savior being in the tomb.
GOD is talking in Matthew 12:39-40 read it please. Jonah 1:17 read it please?There is no way any one could claim he was in the Grave on Friday?72 hours is still 72 hours!GOD said Himself to everyone in the Belly of the Earth 3 days and 3 Nights.Okay GOD Can't lie ever.Or the Cross is worthless for us.Plus Mary came at 5-6 Am on Sunday to Grave and GOD is Risen.Okay great.It is proven already true.So go back 72 Hours?What day is it?6-9 at night.Then 72 hours to Sunday say 1 minute into it.Say 4:39 4:49 Am.Go back 72 hours?Okay what day is it?It sure isn't Friday.Remember GOD can't Lie! Matthew 12:39,40 GOD talking! Do you believe GOD or Man???Wednesday Night 6-9 Pm.Plus Remember there was Two Sabbaths that week of the Cross.Apparently forgot to look it up and Study the truth?The Truth will set us all Free! Who is Truth? GOD= Lord Jesus Christ!
Jesus died on what we call Wednesday just before sundown.
Wednesday sundown to Thursday sundown = 1 day (first night and day in the tomb)
Thursday sundown to Friday sundown = 1 day (second night and day in the tomb)
Friday sundown to Saturday sundown = 1 day (third night and day in the tomb)
Mary came to the sepulchre at daybreak Sunday.
Look at Matthew 12:40.
Jesus rose at some time between Saturday sundown and Sunday morning.
The "high day" of John 19:31 was the first day of the feast (Passover), and is considered a high holy Sabbath day.
The first day of the Feast was a Thursday (15th day of Nisan- April 3/4). The 15th day of Nisan commenced at sunset on what we would still call the 14th.
Jesus was crucified on the 14th, the "preparation day" ( John 19:31), and by law the crucified bodies should not remain on the cross on a Sabbath day. Jesus was put in the tomb before sunset on Wednesday the 14th.
The "first day of the week" ( Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:1-2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1-), the day of the Resurrection, was from our Saturday sunset to Sunday sunset.
Jesus was to be the Lamb slain, and His crucifixion took place on the "preparation day" ( John 19:14) when all lambs were slaughtered for the great Passover Feast the NEXT day.
The Last Supper DID NOT take place on the day of Passover, look at Matthew 27:62, Mark 15:42, Luke 23:54, John 19:14, John 19:31-42.
The "third day" of Matthew 16:21 is not the third day of the great Feast, but the third day of our Lord and Savior being in the tomb.
The Hebrew calendar used at the time of Jesus counted a full day from sunset to sunset, not midnight to midnight.
The Hebrew 24 hour period of time is broken up into two 12 hour segments. The first segment is from 6 pm until 6 am. The second segment is from 6 am until 6 pm.
The "third hour" of the day in Mark 15:25 when Christ was crucified is 9 am
The "ninth hour" when He gave up the ghost is 3 pm.
In their Doctrines and Covenants of the Mormon faith they teach that Jesus is the brother of Satan.
Do you understand that means your savior is the brother of Satan.
The Bible teaches Jesus created all things, including Satan in
John 1:3 All things were made by (Jesus) him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Mormonism is a denial of the King James Bible since Jesus said:
John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is FINISHED finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Mormonism is another testament, another gospel so basically this means it was not finished as the work of Christ.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Ask yourself if this means Mormonism is cursed?
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel (MORONi) from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Do you really want to trust an angel named MORONi
Do we really believe that Christianity was lost till Joseph Smith found some golden plates that no one knows where they are and an angel named MORONi visited him?
Are you prepared to tell Jesus your savior that he is the brother of Satan?
That is what Mormonism teaches. That the King James is full of errors and that they have another gospel.
Please consider this carefully.
Funny how the archaeologists of the USA can not find any traces of the Nephites or Lamenites civilizations Smith wrote about.
You are correct. The entire scene at the Cross is amazing.
I could not find the Scripture in Job that you were referencing, but dust is mentioned numerous times concerning the product of physical death.
I am under the impression that what Jesus was doing when he stated "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me" was that He was TEACHING to all that could hear.
If you want to know what Jesus said to them, read ALL of Psalms 22; spoken 1000 years before the Cross. Now THAT is AWESOME!
When Jesus addressed His heavenly Father He would always use the word "Father."
The OT phrase "that He hath done this" from Psalms 22:31 is equivalent to the NT phrase "it is finished" ( John 19:30).
John L so the words of Jesus are "serious hostility" towards the Jews?
That is what the Jews write in their commentaries about Jesus and how evil he was for condemning their religious practices.
Paul writes in 1 Thessalonians 2:14 thru 16 - For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their OWN PROPHETS, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
I suppose Paul is an evil antisemite also along with Jesus
John 19:12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release (Jesus) him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.
Rome did not conspire to kill Jesus, guess who did?
I am still not satisfied with the answers given for Jesus' lineage. It is critical that Jesus be a descendant of David to fulfill the prophesy that David's son will be the ruler of the kingdom. If we use the lineage given in Matthew it connects David by blood down to Joseph which has nothing to do with Jesus' bloodline. At best Joseph is Jesus' step father, a non-blood. There is no mention that Joseph legally adopted Jesus as his son. Jesus has no blood relation or legal relation (recorded) to Joseph. And, after the story of Jesus disappearing for 3-4 days at the age of 12, after the festival of Passover in Jerusalem, Joseph is never mentioned again. He is a truly insignificant figure in Jesus' life. Whereas, his mother Mary is mentioned a number of times even at his crucifixion in John 19:26. Unfortunately, the lineage in Luke is "assumed" to be that of Mary's but not stated. For Jesus to be a blood relative of David it is important to know not assume this to be the case. In the past years, this has not been important but has become so since this is a key prophecy and fulfillment of God's covenant. The best I can come to is Jesus was a man/God and was a Spiritual son/Lord of David and of God, the Almighty.
(Bob: I asked God to make it rain if Pretrib was truth, and guess what? It's raining!)
John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, IT IS FINISHED: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. ---- NOTHING CAN BE ADDED
Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Jesus said the Father would send the Holy Spirit to the disciples after He Jesus was departed .
Also Jesus was anointed with the Holy Spirit at his baptism by the father .
A few points to consider.
God is in full control over all !
Amen
"We believe that there is but one God, who is a Spirit, and the Creator of all things, the Father of all, over and through or in all, in us all; who is to ne worshiped in spirit and truth; to whom alone we look, as the Giver of life, raiment and food, as well as health and sickness, prosperity and adversity; Him we love as the author of all good, and fear Him as the discerner of our hearts.
We believe, that Jesus Christ is the Son and image of the Father, in whom dwells all the fullness of the Godhead; by whom we know as the Father; who is our Mediator and Advocate; and there is no other name under heaven given unto men, whereby we may be saved. In His name alone we worship the Father, and pour out no prayers before God, save those contained in the Holy Scriptures, or which fully agree with the sense of the same.
We believe, that we have a Comforter, the Holy Ghost, who proceeds from the Father and the Son; by whose inspirations we pray, and through whose effectual operation we are regenerated. This Holy Ghost operates in us all good works, and by Him we are led into all truth."
Confession 1-3 of the Waldenses and Albigenses
Martyrs Mirror Page 285
Thieleman J. van Braght English Edition
From the very beginning in the bible, water separates or divides from something: Genesis 1: 6, 7.
When God set apart people for himself, he used water to separate you from something to bring you into something else.
In the old testament, Moses and the priest had to wash with water to be sanctified for service.
Want to show how many scriptures(not all) are showing how important baptism is!
Ezekiel 36: 24 - 27:
God takes the unclean, sprinkles clean water on them, and they shall be clean. Puts his Spirit in them and calls them his people!
New Testament:
John the Baptist baptized with water, also baptized Jesus that the scriptures would be fullfilled:
Matthew 3: 11, 16.
John 1: 26 - 33.
Luke 3: 16, 21.
Matthew 28:19:
Teach all nations to baptize in Jesus name.
Mark 16:16:
He that believes and is baptized shall be saved.
Luke 24: 47 - 49:
Beginning at Jerusalem, repentance and water baptism(remission of sins) preached in Jesus name among all nations.
John 3: 5 - 7:
Jesus taught you must be born again of water(baptism) and Spirit.
John 13:10:
Jesus washed his disciple's feet with water, calling them clean.
John 19:34:
Jesus dead on the cross; soldier pierced his side, out came BLOOD and WATER.
Note:
1 John 5: 6, 8:
Jesus came by WATER and BLOOD.
There are 3 that bear witness in the earth: Spirit, water, and blood. These 3 agree in one.
One what? - One new birth.
Continued next text.
Acts 2:38:
Baptized in water for remission of sins to be saved. Jews first, then gentiles.
Note:
2: 41:
3000 souls were baptized to be obedient.
Acts 8: 36 - 39:
Philip baptized eunuch in water.
Acts 9:18:
Apostle Paul is baptized.
Acts 10: 47, 48:
Peter baptized Cornelius and his family.
Acts 18: 8:
Chief ruler of synagogue believed on the Lord(many with him) got baptized.
Acts 19: 1 - 6:
Paul baptized certain disciples in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Continue to water baptism part 2.
From the very beginning in the bible, water separates or divides from something: Genesis 1: 6, 7.
When God set apart people for himself, he used water to separate you from something to bring you into something else.
In the old testament, Moses and the priest had to wash with water to be sanctified for service.
Want to show how many scriptures(not all) are showing how important baptism is!
Ezekiel 36: 24 - 27:
God takes the unclean, sprinkles clean water on them, and they shall be clean. Puts his Spirit in them and calls them his people!
New Testament:
John the Baptist baptized with water, also baptized Jesus that the scriptures would be fullfilled:
Matthew 3: 11, 16.
John 1: 26 - 33.
Luke 3: 16, 21.
Matthew 28:19:
Teach all nations to baptize in Jesus name.
Mark 16:16:
He that believes and is baptized shall be saved.
Luke 24: 47 - 49:
Beginning at Jerusalem, repentance and water baptism(remission of sins) preached in Jesus name among all nations.
John 3: 5 - 7:
Jesus taught you must be born again of water(baptism) and Spirit.
John 13:10:
Jesus washed his disciple's feet with water, calling them clean.
John 19:34:
Jesus dead on the cross; soldier pierced his side, out came BLOOD and WATER.
Note:
1 John 5: 6, 8:
Jesus came by WATER and BLOOD.
There are 3 that bear witness in the earth: Spirit, water, and blood. These 3 agree in one.
One what? - One new birth.
Continued next text.
Let's try with the Spirits working to perceive what the Spirit calls the DAY OF THE LORD.
Amos 5:18-21 Woe unto you that DESIRE THE DAY OF THE LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the Lord is DARKNESS, AND NOT LIGHT.
(20) Shall not the DAY OF THE LORD be darkness and not light? even very dark and no brightness in it?
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned in darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE THE GREAT AND THE TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD COME.
Is this prophecy yet in the future or has it already been fulfilled? Other scriptures and the symbols represented in them provide the answers.
Psalm 89:34-37 .....(36) His (David's) seed (Christ) shall endure forever, and his (Christ) throne as the sun before me. (vs) It (Christ and his throne) shall be established forever as the MOON, AND AS A FAITHFUL WITNESS IN HEAVEN.
Revelation 1:5 And from JESUS CHRIST, who is my FAITHFUL WITNESS IN HEAVEN. The Psalm says the MOON is the faithful witness implying the moon is symbolic of Jesus.
The prophecy says the sun shall be turned into darkness, and the MOON into blood. Has this already happened?
Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there out BLOOD...
THE DAY OF THE LORD is every day and has been going on now for two thousand years.
Christ through the working of the Holy Spirit has been coming (the second time lake a thief in the night to those who look for him).
Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; AND UNTO THEM THAT LOOK FOR HIM SHALL HE APPEAR THE SECOND TIME WITHOUT SIN UNTO SALVATION.
Amos 8:9 And it shall come to pass in THAT DAY, saith the Lord God, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in a clear day.
Matthew 27:45 And from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned in darkness, and the MOON into blood, BEFORE the terrible DAY OF THE LORD come.
Psalm 89:36 It (his seed, Christ) shall be established for ever as the MOON, and as a faithful witness in heaven.
Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is my FAITHFUL WITNESS......
John 19:34 .....and forthwith came there out blood and water.....
Zachariah 14:7 IT SHALL BE ONE DAY which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass at evening time it shall be light.
It still isn't light and 2000 years has already passed.
The Spirits grace continue upon you.
John 6:63 ....... the words that I ( 1 Peter 1:11,the Spirit of Christ or 1 Peter 1:21,the Holy Ghost or 2 Samuel 23:1-2, the Spirit of the Lord or Revelation 19:10,the words of Jesus) speak unto you, they (words) are spirit, and they (words) are life.
The day of the Lord is prophecy about a spiritual day; but, a day in spiritual time is not necessarily a day in natural time ( 2 Peter 3:8).
Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterwards (after the day of the Lord), that I (Spirit) will will pour my spirit upon all flesh......
Since the Spirit (Holy Ghost) was poured out on all mankind at pentecost; therefore, the day of the Lord begin at pentecost and is continuing to this day 2000 years later in natural time; but, only one day in spiritual time.
Second witness:
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon (symbolic of Christ)..... Psalm 89:35-36 And it (the throne of Christ, from the proceeding verse) shall be established forever as the moon, and as a FAITHFUL WITNESS in heaven...... Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the FAITHFUL WITNESS.......into blood before the terrible (wonderful) day of the Lord (pentecost) come.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he (the Lamb) had opened the sixth seal, and lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth hair, and the moon (symbolic of Christ) became as blood.....
Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
Matthew 27:51 ........and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent.
John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there blood and water.
Revelation 8:1 And when he (the Lamb) had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half hour (spiritual time not natural time)
This time was the time between Christ resurrection and the day of the Lord (pentecost)
Daniel 12:11-12 45 days between vs 11 and 12
At this comment, Nicodemus must have thought ('marvelled'): "this is something new I've never heard of before". Or more likely, he believed that he had one up on Jesus, that He speaks with forked tongue when saying that a re-birth (or, a second chance) must be given to a person to come out for another try to be righteous enough to enter God's Kingdom. So Jesus went on to explain that was not the meaning, but that just as in a physical birth (by water), so there must be a spiritual birth (a rebirth by God's Spirit) to enter God's Presence. In the flesh, we are sinners destined for punishment, as those devoid of God & spurning His Love for us. But when we repent from our sins & turn to God by faith in Jesus' Work at Calvary, then a spiritual re-birth takes place, whereby our human spirit is renewed & refreshed by God's Spirit.
Of course, the story in John 3 was pre-Cross, but the Truth was laid out before Nicodemus, & we can only wonder how those words he heard from Jesus would have affected his heart at the time of Jesus' crucifixion. We know that in John 19:39, Nicodemus voluntarily spent much money to purchase the necessary embalming ingredients for Jesus' Body, which might indicate something of a spiritual work in him earlier on & culminating at the Cross.
Was Jesus crucified on Wednesday or Friday?
Was Jesus risen in the 1st day of the week or on the Sabbath?
Hi again Claire. Thank you for reading that lengthy sermon - it was heavy going. I had to re-read it quickly to find the portion I think you're referring to. The part that seemed significant is:
"God cannot write his law in our inward parts till with water and with blood he has purged us. Tables on which the Lord shall write must be clean, therefore the heart on which God is to engrave his law must be a cleansed heart; and it is a great joy to perceive that from the person of our Lord heart-cleansing blood and water flowed, so that the provision is equal to the necessity. Blessed be the name of our gracious God, he knows how to erase the evil and to cleanse the soul through his Holy Spirit's applying the work of Jesus to us."
If this is the portion, then I don't believe Spurgeon is referring to water baptism or the requirement to be baptised first & then born again - that would be totally erroneous. His mentioning "water & blood" is his direct reference to 1 John 5:6, 7: "This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
There have been several interpretations of this "by water & blood". I feel it indicates Jesus' physical birth (water) & He speaks of this in John 3:5 & then the "blood": of His Sacrifice. Or, Spurgeon could even be recalling the water & blood that issued out of the Lord whilst on the Cross ( John 19:34). We're unclear but it wasn't anything to do with water baptism which can only be taken after first being born again by faith in Jesus's Sacrifice & the indwelling & renewal of the Holy Spirit.
The bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath the Jews asked Pilate that the legs might be broken and that they might be taken away. The soldiers came and broke the legs of the 1st and 3rd prisoners. Jesus was already dead, they did not break his legs. But one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, there came out blood and water." Why did blood and water come out of Jesus' side??
Crucifixion typically resulted in death through one of two ways: The first was HYPOVOLEMIC shock. The prolonged rapid heartbeat resulting from hypovolemic shock can cause fluid to gather in the area around the heart. This is called pericardial effusion.
The second way death occurred during crucifixion was due to asphyxiation. The person is unable to breathe in enough oxygen to survive. Crucifixion victims had to pull their weight up with their hands or wrists that were nailed; along with pushing up with the feet or ankles that had another nail through them. Over time, the ability to push up to breathe would end and oxygen flow would be restricted. *This asphyxiation can also result in the buildup of fluid around the heart.
In either case, the account of John is quite accurate. The Romans saw that the other two crucifixion victims were still alive and broke their legs so they would no longer be able to push themselves up to breathe, resulting in death within minutes. Jesus, they saw He had become unconscious and likely was already dead. To confirm, a spear was shoved into His side, likely under His ribs, that ruptured the PERICARDIAL sack, resulting in a flow of both blood and water.
This manner of death was a brutal end for Jesus, there was also prophetic significance to this event. John states in John 19:36-37, "For these things took place that the Scripture might be fulfilled: 'Not one of his bones will be broken. And again another Scripture says, They will look on him whom they have pierced.
Prophesies: Exodus 12:46. Zechariah 12:10.
Our Lord said Son , behold thy mother. Mother behold thy son.
As the male benefactor , Our Lord honoured His mother by leaving her with another male benefactor, for He knew He was to be crucified.
If He did not do this, He would have broken the law
He is white as snow , pure and undefiled , above all things
our Lord said, Those that do the will of my Father, they are my brothers
Exodus 12:1-17
Mathew 26:2
Mark 14:1
Luke 22:1
Hope that helps.
Good Friday Jesus died for us and Easter Sunday he arose... right????
or is this wrong.
Sabbaths is on Saturday... ?
Crucifixion typically resulted in death through one of two ways: The first was HYPOVOLEMIC shock. The prolonged rapid heartbeat resulting from hypovolemic shock can cause fluid to gather in the area around the heart. This is called pericardial effusion.
The second way death occurred during crucifixion was due to asphyxiation. The person is unable to breathe in enough oxygen to survive. Crucifixion victims had to pull their weight up with their hands or wrists that were nailed; along with pushing up with the feet or ankles that had another nail through them. Over time, the ability to push up to breathe would end and oxygen flow would be restricted. *This asphyxiation can also result in the buildup of fluid around the heart.
In either case, the account of John is quite accurate. The Romans saw that the other two crucifixion victims were still alive and broke their legs so they would no longer be able to push themselves up to breathe, resulting in death within minutes. Jesus, they saw He had become unconscious and likely was already dead. To confirm, a spear was shoved into His side, likely under His ribs, that ruptured the PERICARDIAL sack, resulting in a flow of both blood and water.
This manner of death was a brutal end for Jesus, there was also prophetic significance to this event. John states in John 19:36-37, "For these things took place that the Scripture might be fulfilled: 'Not one of his bones will be broken. And again another Scripture says, They will look on him whom they have pierced.
Prophesies: Exodus 12:46. Zechariah 12:10.
Mishael
All the Old Testament prophets received Rhema from God which made a way for them in the spiritual wilderness. Elijah received a Rhema word from God which not only fed him in famine but saved the life of the widow and her son; gave them a continual supply of food when all around them was in draught.
His word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones Jeremiah 20:9
Rhema cries out to you, loud and clear.
When you are reading your Bible, a scripture jumps out of the page to speak to you, or a verse highlighted by the Holy Spirit to enlighten and direct your path. Whatever God tells you to do, He will equip you to do it; wherever God tells you to go, He will prepare for you the way to get there.
The fellowship with God in His Word is vital. The fire, the fervency, the calling comes when you fellowship with God in His Word. For you are face to face with Jesus!
Revelation of John 19:13: and his name is called The Word of God.
The Word imparts vision to you. You become a fired up, proactive, purposeful, God-sent person. Gone are the days of laziness, inactivity and boredom. Your life is no longer "a waste of time"! You become focused, organized and purposeful.
A lot of people out there find life so boring that they have to resort to drugs, alcohol, loud music etc to give them a high; but then when the illusion is gone, they are left worse than before. A person who suffers from depression swings between highs and lows. why? It's because they are not living a "real life", the God given life in Christ Jesus!
There is life in the Word, it is the life of God, the God kind of life.
Mishael
Matthew 27:32, And as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name: him they compelled to bear his cross.
Mark 15:21 And they compel one Simon a Cyrenian, who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross.
Luke 23:26 And as they led him away, they laid hold upon one Simon, a Cyrenian, coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross, that he might bear it after Jesus.
John 19: 16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.
17 And he (Simon of Cyrene 3 witnesses tell us) bearing *HIS* cross went forth unto a place called the place of a skull. Much misleading Art, some showing a scarcely scratched, loin clothed *JESUS*, and false teachers who break Bible principles: No single verse is of private interpretation.
Leaving us, who all were Lambs once, with deceptive images, and at times, false witness to pass on which is nigh Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or MAKETH A LIE: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and MAKETH A LIE.
Cursed is the man who trusteth in man: Be a Berean and trust in the WORD, Zeph 2:3.Seek ye the Lord, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the Lord's anger.
Ephesians 4:15 but speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, CHRIST.16 from whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love. GBU
Wesley refers to the day Christ died as the day of Passover.
The day of the "Last Supper" was not the day of Passover, but the day BEFORE Passover, also called the "Preparation Day"
John 19:14
"And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!"
To understand the timeline, it must be understood that a Hebrew day begins at SUNSET.
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The Hebrew calendar used at the time of Jesus counted a full day from sunset to sunset, not midnight to midnight.
The Hebrew 24 hour period of time is broken up into two 12 hour segments. The first segment is from 6 pm until 6 am. The second segment is from 6 am until 6 pm.
6pm - 6am = 1st set of 12 hours- "third hour of the night" Acts 23:23 (9 pm)
6am - 6pm = 2nd set of 12 hours- "third hour of the day" Acts 2:15 (9 am)
The "third hour" of the day in Mark 15:25 when Christ was crucified is 9 am
The "ninth hour" when He gave up the ghost is 3 pm.
Look at Sixth hour, Ninth hour, eleventh hour, Matthew 20:5
Right on! Just as Johah said; "Three days AND three nights" Jonah 1:17.
Jesus died on what we call Wednesday just before sundown.
Wednesday sundown to Thursday sundown = 1 day (first night and day in the tomb)
Thursday sundown to Friday sundown = 1 day (second night and day in the tomb)
Friday sundown to Saturday sundown = 1 day (third night and day in the tomb)
Mary came to the sepulchre at daybreak Sunday.
Look at Matthew 12:40.
Jesus rose at some time between Saturday sundown and Sunday morning.
The "high day" of John 19:31 was the first day of the feast (Passover), and is considered a high holy Sabbath day.
The first day of the Feast was a Thursday (15th day of Nisan- April 3/4). The 15th day of Nisan commenced at sunset on what we would still call the 14th.
Jesus was crucified on the 14th, the "preparation day" ( John 19:31), and by law the crucified bodies should not remain on the cross on a Sabbath day. Jesus was put in the tomb before sunset on Wednesday the 14th.
The "first day of the week" ( Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:1-2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1-), the day of the Resurrection, was from our Saturday sunset to Sunday sunset.
Jesus was to be the Lamb slain, and His crucifixion took place on the "preparation day" ( John 19:14) when all lambs were slaughtered for the great Passover Feast the NEXT day.
The Last Supper DID NOT take place on the day of Passover, look at Matthew 27:62, Mark 15:42, Luke 23:54, John 19:14, John 19:31-42.
The "third day" of Matthew 16:21 is not the third day of the great Feast, but the third day of our Lord and Savior being in the tomb.
Jesus died on what we call Wednesday just before sundown.
Wednesday sundown to Thursday sundown = 1 day (first night and day in the tomb)
Thursday sundown to Friday sundown = 1 day (second night and day in the tomb)
Friday sundown to Saturday sundown = 1 day (third night and day in the tomb)
Mary came to the sepulchre at daybreak Sunday.
Look at Matthew 12:40.
Jesus rose at some time between Saturday sundown and Sunday morning.
The "high day" of John 19:31 was the first day of the feast (Passover), and is considered a high holy Sabbath day.
The first day of the Feast was a Thursday (15th day of Nisan- April 3/4). The 15th day of Nisan commenced at sunset on what we would still call the 14th.
Jesus was crucified on the 14th, the "preparation day" ( John 19:31), and by law the crucified bodies should not remain on the cross on a Sabbath day. Jesus was put in the tomb before sunset on Wednesday the 14th.
The "first day of the week" ( Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:1-2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1-), the day of the Resurrection, was from our Saturday sunset to Sunday sunset.
Jesus was to be the Lamb slain, and His crucifixion took place on the "preparation day" ( John 19:14) when all lambs were slaughtered for the great Passover Feast the NEXT day.
The Last Supper DID NOT take place on the day of Passover, look at Matthew 27:62, Mark 15:42, Luke 23:54, John 19:14, John 19:31-42.
The "third day" of Matthew 16:21 is not the third day of the great Feast, but the third day of our Lord and Savior being in the tomb.
The Hebrew calendar used at the time of Jesus counted a full day from sunset to sunset, not midnight to midnight.
The Hebrew 24 hour period of time is broken up into two 12 hour segments. The first segment is from 6 pm until 6 am. The second segment is from 6 am until 6 pm.
The "third hour" of the day in Mark 15:25 when Christ was crucified is 9 am
The "ninth hour" when He gave up the ghost is 3 pm.
In their Doctrines and Covenants of the Mormon faith they teach that Jesus is the brother of Satan.
Do you understand that means your savior is the brother of Satan.
The Bible teaches Jesus created all things, including Satan in
John 1:3 All things were made by (Jesus) him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Mormonism is a denial of the King James Bible since Jesus said:
John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is FINISHED finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Mormonism is another testament, another gospel so basically this means it was not finished as the work of Christ.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Ask yourself if this means Mormonism is cursed?
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel (MORONi) from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Do you really want to trust an angel named MORONi
Do we really believe that Christianity was lost till Joseph Smith found some golden plates that no one knows where they are and an angel named MORONi visited him?
Are you prepared to tell Jesus your savior that he is the brother of Satan?
That is what Mormonism teaches. That the King James is full of errors and that they have another gospel.
Please consider this carefully.
Funny how the archaeologists of the USA can not find any traces of the Nephites or Lamenites civilizations Smith wrote about.
You are correct. The entire scene at the Cross is amazing.
I could not find the Scripture in Job that you were referencing, but dust is mentioned numerous times concerning the product of physical death.
I am under the impression that what Jesus was doing when he stated "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me" was that He was TEACHING to all that could hear.
If you want to know what Jesus said to them, read ALL of Psalms 22; spoken 1000 years before the Cross. Now THAT is AWESOME!
When Jesus addressed His heavenly Father He would always use the word "Father."
The OT phrase "that He hath done this" from Psalms 22:31 is equivalent to the NT phrase "it is finished" ( John 19:30).
That is what the Jews write in their commentaries about Jesus and how evil he was for condemning their religious practices.
Paul writes in 1 Thessalonians 2:14 thru 16 - For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their OWN PROPHETS, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
I suppose Paul is an evil antisemite also along with Jesus
John 19:12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release (Jesus) him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.
Rome did not conspire to kill Jesus, guess who did?
I am still not satisfied with the answers given for Jesus' lineage. It is critical that Jesus be a descendant of David to fulfill the prophesy that David's son will be the ruler of the kingdom. If we use the lineage given in Matthew it connects David by blood down to Joseph which has nothing to do with Jesus' bloodline. At best Joseph is Jesus' step father, a non-blood. There is no mention that Joseph legally adopted Jesus as his son. Jesus has no blood relation or legal relation (recorded) to Joseph. And, after the story of Jesus disappearing for 3-4 days at the age of 12, after the festival of Passover in Jerusalem, Joseph is never mentioned again. He is a truly insignificant figure in Jesus' life. Whereas, his mother Mary is mentioned a number of times even at his crucifixion in John 19:26. Unfortunately, the lineage in Luke is "assumed" to be that of Mary's but not stated. For Jesus to be a blood relative of David it is important to know not assume this to be the case. In the past years, this has not been important but has become so since this is a key prophecy and fulfillment of God's covenant. The best I can come to is Jesus was a man/God and was a Spiritual son/Lord of David and of God, the Almighty.
Respectfully,
Alex
John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, IT IS FINISHED: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. ---- NOTHING CAN BE ADDED
Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: