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John Mark was related to the high priest. ( Acts 4:6) John Mark followed Jesus to the high priest's house and was allowed to go in with Jesus into the high priest's house. ( John 18:15) John Mark was wealthy and had a house in Jerusalem where the disciples met ( Acts 12:12) and where Jesus celebrated Passover and that is why John Mark sat at the head of the table next to Jesus. ( John 13:23) John Mark is given the responsibility to take care of Mary. ( John 19:27)

Remember James and John, the sons of Zebedee, are always mentioned together.

Please read John 19 vs 26 - the disciple standing by whom he loved This disciple is John, the brother of James both of whom were of the 12 apostles. No where in the scriptures is John Mark referred to as the disciple whom Jesus loved.

John Mark was a traveling companion of Paul and Barnabas; in fact it is generally thought that John Mark was related to Barnabas (as a cousin or nephew). Paul and Barnabas has a very big disagreement over John Mark causing them to part ways at Pamphylia.

Papal Rome is indeed not what Paul saw in his day. However the Bible defines what antichrist means.

1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.) If they refuse to use the name Jesus as the angel Gabriel named him and use Yeshua I suspect they may not what be they claim to be

1 John 2:23 - Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah?

1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?

Rome did not kill Jesus. John 19:12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.

Pilate wanted to release Jesus.

King James Bible book of John 5:16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.

John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 - For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST

There are no new revelations -- If someone says they received a new revelation they are saying Jesus was wrong? John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is FINISHED: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Jesus was making a comparison between Jonas being in the belly of the whale and Jesus being in the heart of the earth(grave) for three days. we must remember a day consist of 24 hours. The Jews reckon any part of a day as a day, not necessarily 24 hours. Jesus died on the preparation day (Friday 1st. day), in the grave all day Sabbath,(Sat.2nd. day). He rose early on the first day of the week(Sunday third day). John 19:42, John 20:1. There is a day between the preparation and the first day of the week, SABBATH. JUST A NOTE: We work eight hours a day, not 24. We consider those 8 hours as a day of work, not 24hours.

Marie,

I am one of those that believes Jesus was crucified on a Friday and rose Sunday. My reasoning for this comes from the account given in John Chapter 19, and then the first verse in John Chapter 20. We know from Chapter 19 that He died on a Friday sometime between 3pm and 6pm.



John 19:31 gives us a clue as to the day Jesus was crucified. It had to be on a Friday because they had to be dead before the Sabbath day which would begin at 6pm on Friday and go to 6pm on Saturday. We see in Chapter 19 that they came to break the legs of all three because they were still alive. But when they came to Jesus to break His legs, He was already dead.

It was against Jewish tradition for anyone to be hanging on a cross on the Sabbath (Saturday). The book of Deuteronomy gives us a list of codes. One of them is that cursed is everybody that hangs on a tree, especially on the Sabbath Day.

John 20:1 begins by saying the first day of the week, but it literally says "the first of the Sabbath's," plural! In the scriptures, the Sabbath Day is singular, and the weekdays are plural. So you have the Sabbath Day, and then you have the Sabbath Days, which are used to denote the weekdays.

This is the first day of the week. This is Sunday. The scripture tells us that this Sunday is the first Sunday after Passover, which means the Sabbath of Saturday, the normal Sabbath, has passed. And now we are into Sunday. To understand the Friday to Sunday time frame, you have to count Friday as being day 1, Saturday, day 2, and then Sunday would be the 3rd day, the day Jesus rose.

Hope this helps!

Shawn, on that week there was the "high sabbath" which was related to a Jewish festival and the regular weekly sabbath. So the week of Jesus' crucifixion had not one but two sabbaths.

Hello Marie,

Jesus said in Matthew 12:40 "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

Tradition - not scripture - puts Him crucified on a Friday.

Also know that He was crucified on a high sabbath - John 19:31 - so Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday during the day. Therefore He was in the grave Wednesday night (1st night), Thursday day (1st day), Thursday night (2nd night), Friday day (2nd day), Friday night (3rd night), Saturday (3rd day) and He from the grave after the third day. You are right that a new day begins a 6PM. We are not sure the exact time of the day that Jesus arose but it was after the third day and third night of being in the grave.

Agreed, this is confusing. Also, if you ready Luke 23:56 they prepared the spices before Sabbath, but in Mark 16:1-2 they bought them after the Sabbath. How can they buy them after the Sabbath, but prepare them before the Sabbath?

Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?

A: Mathew 21:43 Therefore say I (Jesus speaks to Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

(Lets see was it the Jews who killed Jesus and Christians? The Greeks who spread the orthodox christian faith all over eastern Europe.)

Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14 - 16 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.

King James Bible book of John 5:16 - And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.

John 5:18 - Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?

In Mark 15: 34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard [it], said, Behold, he calleth Elias.

these Jews did not even understand what Jesus was saying in Hebrew

John 19:13 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. so why would this tell you in the Hebrew Gabbatha if it was originally in Hebrew? NO it was in Greek, it was Jews who killed Christians

I quoted John 19:30 to show how I know Christ's work is finished. The KJVB is about the history of the days of Creation, as introduced in Genesis 1. "Sin," in the KJVB, is anything not compliant with the laws of the creation of this Universe. Information about the hidden wisdom of God may be found with the ten times, "from the beginning," occurs in KJVText, after the book of Proverbs, 1Co 2:7.

Have you read, [ John 19:30 KJV] 30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

I believe that, "sin," in the KJVB; is any incompliancy within this Universe.

One thing, the interpretation works, without need for a topical read and also a chronological read to satisfy all their stipulations. What is your interpretation, where did you get it?

Thank You

Laura per the Bible Herod did not have Jesus killed. Pilate tried to release Jesus.

John 19:12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar. (Pilate was threatened with treason if he let Jesus go free)

Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14 -16 - For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.

The chief priests & Pharisees had it in for Jesus right through His ministry.The Gospels are replete with occasions that raised their ire & plots to do away with Him. I will list some of them, but you ask, "the reason that Jesus was arrested". If I could give just one Scripture, it would be John 19:7: the law was that death would be the penalty for blasphemy, so they demanded this sentence from Pilate for Jesus claimed to be God's Son. Other verses in Mark's Gospel that demonstrate their hatred of Jesus: 2:16, 6:3, 2:24, 2:7, 3:6, 3:22, 7:5, 14:53-64. Jesus not only claimed Deity & called them a generation of vipers ( Mt 3:7), but also broke their traditions & accused them of many things.

(This continues my last comment)Also you're right. People are damned for not believing the Gospel. But you have a different Gospel. The Gospel does not include Baptism. In fact despite tons of scriptures explaining Salvation is not of works and even in Gods definition of the Gospel 1 Corinth. 15:1-4 not including Baptism. We also have an example of someone saved without Baptism. Remember the thief? "But wait he was saved in the Old covenant"...not quite. Luke was not the last we heard of the thief. Look in John 19:31-33 It shows clearly that the thief was alive AFTER Christ Death and therefore not only was he saved without Baptism but it was also in the new covenant

You are kind to love everyone. Study with me please
Psalms 22

Psalms 22:1 ,= Matthew 27:46 ,
Psalms 22:7 -8 = Matthew 27:41-42 Luke 23:35-37
Psalms 22:14 = John 19:34 also read John 19:32-37
Psalms 22:16 = Luke 23:33
Psalms 22:17 = John 19:36
Psalms 22:18 = Luke 23:34
Psalms 22:27
I hope this helps too

Jesus said it is finished, there are no new prophecies or teachings it is complete -- John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. --- Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: Rev 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Dear Irritated, Your outlook on 'life' seems hopeless. As Christians, we don't have to live life wandering if God will save us everyday. If you have trusted the LORD Jesus Christ as your Savior, the work has already been done. Jesus said right before he died on the Cross, "It is finished" John 19:30 and also "neither shall any pluck them out of my hand" John 28:10. Be secure in Christ my friend.

John 19:25 "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magadalena" there are conflicting answers as to whom this Mary Cleophas is I've always wondered I don't think this is a random "Oh there's just 3 ladies who happened to be named Mary" I think there is a deeper meaning. Also do you think Pilate's wife was saved? Thank you

Ann - I read John 19:25 by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. as being 3 women Jesus's mother named Mary, his mother's sister also named Mary, and Mary Magdalena. The wife of Cleophas is Jesus's aunt not Jesus's mother.

Along the traditional reading preparation for sabbath happens on friday. Bible mentions that on friday Jesus died. See: John 19:31. It was a normal weekly preparation day for sabbath but also a yearly festival took place. By the evening soldiers made sure every one was dead at Golgata. Joseph of Arimathaea accompadied by Nicodemus took the body to the crave. On sunday morning the grave was empty.

Mark 14:25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God. John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Joe...Joseph died and his brother Cleophas marries Mary according to Levirate marriage. Jesus, the first born, transfers His inheritance to John Mark to take care of His mother after His death. John Mark takes care of Mary when Cleophas dies. Acts 12:12 ...he came to the house of Mary the mother of John, whose surname was Mark ...

Dear oliver williams-When the Lord Jesus said "it is finished", it meant He had perfectly fulfilled the Law of Moses and perfectly satisfyig the justice of God against Sin Romans 6:23 . Tgerefore when a person believes in Jesus Christ, they are not required to keep the law of Moses to be Justified before God because the Righteouness of Jesus is then transfered to that person. Godbless you

I'm not understanding what you wrote. In verses 26,27 Jesus introduces his mother to John John takes her into his home. Are you saying that Jesus' mother was married? Please clarify.

Josh Ferguson... John 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. There are ONLY 2 Mary s at the cross. Mary, Jesus mother the wife of Cleophas AND Mary Magdalene His mother s sister . Mary married Cleophas Alphaeus after Joseph died. Mary, called Magdalene, is Mary s sister, Jesus Aunt!

Joe ... The Word of God does not come out and say who these people are. Matthew, James and Judas Lebbaeus Thaddaeus are the sons of Alphaeus. Mark 2:14, Matthew 10:3 James and Judas are also The Lord s brothers. How can this be? These can only be both Jesus brothers and the sons of Alphaeus IF Mary married Alphaeus, who is Cleophas, which Mary DID! John 19:25

When Jesus declared that it is finished, could this also be interpreted in the context that He had finished setting up the governmental structure upon which the New Testament Church will be built?

James and John, Zebedee s sons, are always mentioned together. Mary and Jesus brothers sisters travel with Jesus. NO Joseph. John 2:12, Mark 3:31, Mark 6:3. Mary is the wife of Cleophas. John 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. Cleopas KNEW all about Jesus because he married Mary. Luke 24:18, 22, 24, 31

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