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A very fundamental lesson

All flesh is appointed to die.

Every soul that sin shall die the 2nd death.

There's a new birth at conversion for those who trust in Christ. This is defined in baptism.

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Hebrews 9:27.

There is in scripture what is called the 2nd death. This has been taken care of for those who trust Christ.

Without Christ you're already dead.

1 Timothy 5:6.

Ephesians 2:5.

Revelation 3:1.

Colossians 2:13.

Romans 8:10.

Mathew 8:22.

Luke 15:24.

And here's an important one for the brethren.

1 John 3:14.

John 11:25-26. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

AND WHOSOEVER LIVETH AND BELIEVETH IN ME SHALL NEVER DIE. Believest thou this?

One of many verses on the 2nd death.

Revelation 20:13-14. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Eternal life.

If you truly trust in Christ, you have been baptized into Christ. You already have ETERNAL life. That's the only kind he's giving.

If you haven't truly trusted in Christ you're already dead while you liveth and it shows up in your living and it observed carefully you'll find it in their Doctrine.

Romans 8:9.

Romans 10:8-10. But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

God bless.

Present-day defenders of soul sleep include the Seventh Day Adventist church, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians, and others.

In regards to the portion of your question regarding death=sleep. We must be careful in understanding what is really meant and not fall into the belief of "Soul sleep." Soul sleep is a belief that after a person dies, his/her soul "sleeps" until the resurrection and final judgment. The concept of "soul sleep" is not biblical. When the Bible describes a person "sleeping" in relation to death ( Luke 8:52; 1 Corinthians 15:6), it does not mean literal sleep. Sleeping is just a way to describe death because a dead body appears to be asleep. The moment we die, we face the judgment of God ( Hebrews 9:27). For believers, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord ( 2 Corinthians 5:6-8; Philippians 1:23). For unbelievers, death means everlasting punishment in hell ( Luke 16:22-23).

Until the final resurrection, though, there is a temporary heaven-paradise ( Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians 12:4) and a temporary hell-Hades ( Revelation 1:18; 20:13-14). As can be clearly seen in Luke 16:19-31, neither in paradise nor in Hades are people sleeping. It could be said, though, that a person's body is "sleeping" while his soul is in paradise or Hades. At the resurrection, this body is "awakened" and transformed into the everlasting body a person will possess for eternity, whether in heaven or hell. Those who were in paradise will be sent to the new heavens and new earth ( Revelation 21:1). Those who were in Hades will be thrown into the lake of fire ( Revelation 20:11-15). These are the final, eternal destinations of all people-based entirely on whether or not a person trusted in Jesus Christ for salvation.

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Hi James and thank you.

All flesh is appointed to die.

Every soul that sin shall die the 2nd death.

There's a new birth at conversion for those who trust in Christ. This is defined in baptism.

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Hebrews 9:27.

There is in scripture what is called the 2nd death. This has been taken care of for those who trust Christ.

John 11:25-26. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

AND WHOSOEVER LIVETH AND BELIEVETH IN ME SHALL NEVER DIE. Believest thou this?

One of many verses on the 2nd death.

Revelation 20:13-14. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

God bless.

Hi Roman.

Thanks for replying.

I've moved this conversation to a new thread since the other is a week old, And off topic.

You stated:

"Spencer, Jesus said 2 commandments are most important, above all. If I follow the commandments, I will be OK at that. I don't need to dissect a butterfly to see how it flies. My impression is that everyone good and bad make it to the promised land, the tainted spirits we wear will be made whole so we haven't the capacity to sin. Even though it's dangled in our faces, the lake of fire is only for the 3 evil spirits, and no one else. Too much speculation and fuss is made over what will never be known and confirmed from the hear and now. Anything that occurs past the 7th trumpet is beyond our scope, beyond our comprehension, and out of this world. For all we know, our salvation comes from being thrown back into the universe as dust particles, into a new realm.

I don't think about my salvation, I don't worry about it, because it's not mine to entertain, but God's.

My personal salvation is rooted in selfishness that I could be good enough to make the grade.

I seek truth well before salvation. I was never a fanatic for life, so I look forward to death, the charade over. I wouldn't mind being blotted out as if I never existed, no record, that would be fine with me, too. I will have to wait and see what the Lord has in store for me.' End quote.

Roman if I had that mindset there wouldn't be any need to witness.

Roman you said you believe the lake of fire was only for the 3 evil spirits. here's their fate. Revelation 20:10.

But in this same chapter here's

mention of the lost suffering the same fate!! Revelation 20:15.

Here's a few of many scriptures I believe.

We've all sinned and come up short.

Romans 3:22-25.

The payment/Blood sacrfice.

Matthew 20:28.

Hebrews 9:26.

Conclusion.

John 6:28-29.

John 3:16-17.

Romans 10:9.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

Thanks and God bless you Roman.

Perhaps later.

God bless.

Romans 14:12, Hebrews 9:27, Luke 12, Matthew 25:31-46, Revelation 1:7, Matthew 24, Matthew 26:64, Mark 13, Mark 14:62, 1Thessalonians 4:16-18, Revelation 10, read previous chapters. 7, 8 & 9, 2Thessalonians 2,

Hi Rick.

I believe there's two tabernacles, an Earthly one and an Heavenly one.

I believe they're looking for the Earthly one. Who knows? They may have found it.

Hebrews 8:1-2. Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man......

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Hebrews 8:5. Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

Hebrews 9:2-9. .....

Verses 8-9. The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:

Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;"

Hebrews 9:24. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

I've heard it was seen in the basement at a Church in Ethiopia.

Who knows? perhaps it will be used in the literal Millennium kingdom here on earth.

I don't think we "the Church" have to concern our selves it.

Hebrews 10:19. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

God bless.

Giannis, to understand the parable, you first have to understand the second coming.

The second coming and the second resurrection are two entirely different things.

The second coming is liked unto the time of Noah. Everyday life going on around men, and men are not aware that that the door (Christ, the ark), will be shut at any moment by ones physical death.

The second coming is Christ, coming as a thief in the night, and he is not seen, but:

Hebrews 9:28 ..to those who look for him he shall appear THE SECOND TIME (as the Holy Ghost, Truth and Life) without sin unto salvation.

This has been happening now for two thousand years.

Matthew 25:1 Then (after Pentecost) shall the kingdom of heaven (Christ in you, the Holy Spirit in you, life and truth in you) be likened unto ten virgins (potential BRIDES OF CHRIST), which took their lamps (vessels, that hold oil, and give light, our bodies are the vessel, the oil is the Holy Spirit, and the light is Christ), and went forth to meet the Bridegroom (their potential husband).

Matthew 25: And five were wise, and five were foolish.

Matthew 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps (their vessel of light or their body, and took no oil (the anointing of the SPIRIT) with(in) them (that burns as the light).

Matthew 25:4 But the wise took oil (the anointing of the SPIRIT) in their vessels (their bodies) with their LIGHT (their CHRIST).

Matthew 25:6 And while the bridegroom tarried (remained out of sight from the physical eyes), they all slumbered and slept.

Matthew 26:7 And at midnight there was a cry made (the last trump, the end of time for this body of flesh), Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go you out to meet him (those born of the Spirit returned to the Spirit, and those with no oil went to the grave to await the second resurrection).

This does't happen to the virgins collectively, but in each one's appointed hour.

GBU

Suze: It sounds like from your post that Christ has already come the second time.

Hebrews 9:27 And it is appointed unto man (sinful flesh) once to die, but after this judgement (rightfully dividing the word of God, which is truth).

Psalms 37:28 For the Lord loveth judgement ..........

Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered (in the flesh, as sinful flesh) to bear the sins of many (all); and unto them that look for him he shall appear the SECOND TIME (as the Holy Ghost)(as a thief in the night) without sin unto salvation.

Psalms 116:15 Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death (on the cross, as sinful flesh) of his saints.

Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise ....

Christ arose to a new body that is immortal, as you died with him, you also arose with him, Christ is LIFE and TRUTH, when you depart this fleshly body all that remains is LIFE and TRUTH, as you bear the image of the earthly you will bear the image of the heavenly.

He who is born of spirit IS SPIRIT.

God is Spirit.

Spirit is all the things that can't be seen, life, faith, love, mercy, truth, wisdom, understanding, knowledge, etc.

You will be the image of Christ, because Christ is the image of God.

1 Corinthians 3:21-23 ...for all things are yours ...and ye are Christ's and Christ is God's.

Christ is in creation bringing creation to truth, when you join him you will be doing the same thing.

Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God (SPIRIT) the Judge of all, and to the SPIRITS OF JUST MEN MADE PERFECT.

Revelation 10:11 And he (spirit of Christ) said unto me (John) thou (John) prophesy again (as the image of Christ, working in creation, as a ministering spirit) before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

John 1:51 ....Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels (messenger's) of God ascending and descending upon the son of man.

GBU on our quest for truth.

Hebrews 9:28

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

There are only two 'comings' of the Lord given in Scripture; the first to be born of a virgin, to be our Savior.

The second time - as conquering King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, Jesus Christ our Redeemer.

My understanding is, that pre-tribulation theorists then, add to scripture saying Christ is appearing three times.

Have a grace-filled day, Spencer.

Hebrews 9:27-28, Acts 2:22-35, Proverbs 15:11, 2Peter 2:4-8, Revelation 1:18, Revelation 20,

Matthew 27:50-54, Luke 16,

James 1:5,

Hopefully these are helpful in your searching for wisdom on this matter.

I hope you get other thoughts on this, Follower of Christ, but in a simple way, I consider those phrases in the following manner:

John 1:29: "The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which TAKETH AWAY the sin of the world." This 'taking away of sin', or us 'being freed from sin' ( Romans 6:7), or 'put away sin' ( Hebrews 9:26) appears to be what happens when the Sacrifice of Jesus was completed & the penitent sinner places his trust in Christ & that finished Work. In other words, sin is 'taken away' as God's final dealing with it, to give us spiritual rebirth & confidence & joy in that Act.

Romans 4:6,7: "Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins ARE COVERED." Here, the thought is that the forgiven person's sins are HID from God Eyes. Even though our sins are 'removed as far as the east is from the west' ( Psalm 103:12) so that God remembers them no more (or, no longer holds those sins to our account), Paul in Romans, sees God as hiding our sins from His View, as our sin being a despicable thing in His Eyes. Some could understand this as, 'sins being covered under the Blood'; & this is true as well but taking the passage from David's utterance ( Psalm 32:1,2), the true sense should be that of our sins have been hid from God.

So, in one sense these phrases are similar, as sins are taken away completely, & yet we see both the aspects of a total removal & a total forgiveness as our old sins are treated as filth but covered from God's Sight & taken away only because of Christ's shed Blood. What can wash away our sins? Nothing, absolutely nothing but the Blood of Jesus.

Hebrews 9:15

And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

While some commentators say the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament only applied to believers under the law that came to faith after Jesus died, many say this applied to all sins committed by God's elect in all ages who had the faith of Hebrews 11:6 that pleased God. I take the later view. Also Hebrews 11:40 and Hebrews 12:1 show that the people in Hebrews 11 ultimately had their faith made perfect when we entered into the New Covenant.

They also had the first messianic promise of the Seed of the woman in the curse God uttered against the serpent immediately after the fall before he curse woman and man ( Genesis 3:15

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.)

The old testament was a progressive revelation of the promise within the serpent's curse in numerous ways. It was always expanded by God making other promises, like the promised multiplying of the seed of Abraham like the stars in the heavens which Abraham believed and by that faith was counted righteous. The Messianic Psalms of David. The prophesied Servant of Isaiah. The prophesied New Covenant of Jeremiah. And those are just a small sample of these kinds of promises. We know 2 Corinthiand 1:20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us. I believe Jesus was always an inseparable part of every promise God ever made in the Old Testament from the moment He made them and that is what those old testament saints were believing in, even if only seen in shadow. Even we still only know in part and see through a glass darkly when we look at God's prophetic promises 1 Corinthians 13:9-12.

It should have for believers, but with all things involving people change was difficult and many Jews had difficulty leaving it behind. Social pressures, rejection by families and being put out of the synagogues brought challenges and the temptation to go along to get along. That is why the book of Hebrews was written. The author was trying to prevent Jewish believers from turning back to the sacrificial system and showing them Jesus was superior in every way to that system.

Here is my attempt to summarize Hebrews:

Jesus superior to the prophets: Hebrews 1:1-3

Jesus superior to angels: Hebrews 1:4-14, Hebrews 2:1-8

Jesus able to represent humanity: Hebrews 2:9-18

Jesus superior to Moses: Hebrews 3:1-6

Warnings about hardening our hearts to God's calling: 3:7-19

Warnings about missing God's rest provided by faith in Jesus: 4:1-13

Jesus provides bold access as our high priest: 4:14-16, Jesus meets high priest requirements: Hebrews 5:1-10

Warning about being dull of hearing and unprepared for a deeper teaching: Hebrews 5:11-14, 6:1-8

Encouragement to believe that they are ready for deeper teaching: Hebrews 6:9-12

Teaching about the importance of God giving His oath to Christ He would be a priest forever: Hebrews 6:13-20

Teaching the superiority of the order of Melchisedek that Christ belongs to over the Levitical priesthood order: Hebrews 7:1-28

Christ's priesthood serves the heavenly reality that the law only was an earthly copy of: Hebrews 8:1-5

The superiority of the New Covenant over the Old: Hebrews 8:6-13,

The superiority of Christ's complete sevice over the incomplete Levitical service: Hebrews 9:1-28

The superiority of Christ's sacrifice: Hebrews 10:1-22

Warnings about drawing back: Hebrews 10:23-39

Importance of and examples of faith: Hebrews 11:1-40

Exhortation to submit to chastisement: Hebrews 12:1-29

Exhortation to practically live out their Christian faith and benediction: Hebrews 13:1-25

Jesus superior to

Hello, everyone is a sinner, including Judas (and ourselves). And yes, Judas was a disciple and follower of Christ, both figuratively and literally. So, he was a genuine Christian, but he also genuinely betrayed Jesus, which I think was a form of blaphemy and the unforgiveable sin. That is my personal opinion.

It is one of many examples in the Bible refuting the idea that once you follow Jesus you skip judgment and can commit unlimited sin and blasphemy and follow the world and satan to infinity with zero consequence and that Jesus is somehow totally ok with that. I personally don't believe anyone is 'saved' until we have the day of judgment Romans 14:10, Hebrews 9:27, but believe we can have assurance of salvation for following Jesus. God bless.

Isaiah 46:10,

Genesis 1, Hebrews 1:10,

Revelation 21:6, Revelation 22:13, John 1:1-5, Ephesians 3:9, Colossians 1:18, Luke 24:27, Revelation 3:14, Revelation 1:8,

Psalms 80:15-17, symbolic? Genesis 2, Isaiah 11:1, Jeremiah 23:5, Zechariah 3:8, Zechariah 6:12, John 15,

Isaiah 53, Luke 23, Psalms 22, Mark 15:34, Mark 15, in context

Hebrews 9:24-28,

The last, 1Corinthians 15:45, Romans 5:12-21, John 19:30,

Hopefully these are all helpful in your study

Hi Valerie.

The scripture says. By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. Hebrews 11:4.

Now faith comes by hearing the word of God.

"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Romans 10:17.

So apparently they were instructed to offer what Abel offered which we find in Genesis 4:4.

"And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:"

This was a sacrifice pointing to the Lord Jesus Christ, who would later come and be a sacrfice for the whole world. John 1:29. "The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world."

Faith comes by hearing the word, so apparently Adam may have preached this to them, Abel demonstrated his faith by his offering. "Obedience and belief in what he was commanded to do.

Cain demonstrated unbelief by disregarding and disbelieving in what he was told.

Look at Gods response to Cain.

"But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him." Genesis 4:5-7.

Under the old covenant they offered up sacrifices pointing to one to come (Jesus).

The death of Christ ended that Covenant. read Hebrews 9:13-20.

Now we offer up ourselves.

"I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service." Romans 12:1.

I hope that helps.

God bless.

Thank you Alex, I did read Hebrews 9:14 & then re-read 1 Peter 3:21. I assume your comments are directing my focus on the words "purge your conscience" (in Hebrews), & "a good conscience" (in 1 Peter).

If that's the case, then the Greek words that apply to those verses are 'katharizo' (meaning, to cleanse, or remove), and 'agathos' (meaning, good, pleasant, peaceful); different words - different applications. I fully agree that only the Blood of Jesus can cleanse & remove our sins & guilt completely, as that Blood presents before God continually to be applied to all who come to Him via the Cross; & yes, even make our consciences clear from old 'dead works', believing those Truths & the God Who truly does all that He says.

However in 1 Peter 3:21, the matter is about the other aspect of salvation, i.e. as Noah & family were saved by the flood water bearing them up in the Ark, so to water in baptism also saves - not for outward cleansing (of the flesh), but of cleansing our conscience in a visible act of identification with Jesus in His death, burial, & resurrection. And clearly Peter never implies that water baptism is needed for salvation, for baptism cannot save, only repentance & faith in Christ's finished Work can. But water baptism provides the new believer, through a physical act, a conscience (or, you can read it as 'a mind') that is satisfied, contented, at peace that all that has happened inwardly, is enacted outwardly as a testimony to self & others. When Satan comes knocking at our door, as he always does to refute our faith & new life in Jesus, that physical act of identification with Christ will be sufficient proof to hit him between the eyes - our testimony: Jesus died for me - I'm now identified completely with my Saviour.

So both passages of Scripture are different in application: one, the purging of sin-wrecked consciences; & the other, giving of peace & assurance to revived, renewed consciences.

(1) His miraculous birth was prophesied 800 years before His coming: "Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Emmanuel" ( Isaiah 7:14, KJV).

(2) The prophecy was fulfilled to the letter. "Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favor with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus" ( Luke 1:30, 31, KJV).

(3) Jesus demonstrated human characteristics: He became tired ( John 4:6). He thirsted ( John 19:28), He ate food ( Luke 24:40-43), He showed feelings ( Mark 6:34), He wept ( John 11:35), He knew temptation ( Hebrews 4:15), and He died ( John 19:30).

Jesus Christ Accomplished the Works of His Father:

(1) He died on the Cross. This is the fundamental theme of the Gospel.

The fact of His death-One-fourth of the Gospels are dedicated to His Passion and Resurrection. (a) For this purpose He came into the world ( John 12:27). (b) His death was prophesied hundreds of years before He came ( Isaiah 53:3-8).

The meaning of His death. (a) It was a ransom for sin ( Matthew 20:28; Romans 3:24; 1 Peter 1:18). (b) It was to pay the penalty for sin ( Romans 3:24; 1 John 2:2; 4:10). Man is the object of God's wrath because of rebellion and sin, but God took the initiative in satisfying His wrath by sending His own Son to Calvary. (c) It is a reconciliation. The enmity between us and God has ended ( Romans 5:10), and we are restored to God ( 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19). (d) It is a substitution: He died in our place ( 1 Peter 3:18; 2 Corinthians 5:21). (e) In summary, the matter of sin has been completely dealt with ( 1 Peter 2:24; Hebrews 9:26; Hebrews 10:12).

(2) He was resurrected from the dead: This is unique and fundamental to Christianity.

The reality of the Resurrection ( John 20:1-10; 1 Corinthians 15:4).

The credibility of the Resurrection: (a) Jesus predicted it: Matthew 13:39-41; Luke 24:1-7. (b) The tomb was empty: John 20:11-13. (c) Many witnesses saw Him alive: the women ( Luke 23:55, 56); Mary Magdalene

Hi Ed.

I believe others have very well covered the wages of sin is death and Christ as the sacrificial Lamb.

Romans 6:23.

Hebrews 9:22.

1 Peter 1:18-20...ect.

I would like to give attention to the importance of the resurrection.

If you noticed in 1 Peter 1:18-20. it says Christ crucifixion was ordained before the foundation of the world.

If we consider that verse with

1 Corinthians 15:45-50. and particular on 1 Corinthians 15:45. The life giving spirit now dwells in us and could only come by us being baptized in Christ death, "Cruxifying the old man which we had in Adam.

And we are also baptized in his resurrection.

We could have never gotten that by Adam.

And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.

Jn. 12:23-26.

I've seen it quoted like this:

By rising from the dead, Jesus Christ demonstrated that He had cleansed the guilt of our past and is able to help us in our present lives. His resurrection assures us that our future is safe and secure. Without Christ's resurrection we would have no salvation from sin, and no hope for our own future resurrection.

The empty tomb is proof of Christ's deity. End quote.

God bless.

Hi dear. As concise as possible. To get the whole picture, you can read the Hebrews, in new testament.

Because the whole Word must be fulfilled, Jesus came for us all died on the cross, when He did that He fulfilled the law.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Hebrew 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

When God Speak He who created the whole world and everything around us.

Genesis 2:3

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of

He created from what He sees from His thought's. He diddent only created thats who is like nice cats and dogs, but everything that we sees He created. And not only that we can see. We have a creation beyond that, more heavens and evan more earth becouse we have a underworld as well.

Romans 1:20

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

When God speak who is Holy it has too be fulfilled. 1 Timothy 1:17

Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever.

Ephesians 3:10 God bless u in Jesus Name.

Amen.

Hi Grae

In answer to your question about keeping all the laws of Moses ? and sacrifice a lamb every morning and every evening ?

My understanding is the 10 commandments are Gods Law/ Moral Law and is unchangeable, binding all of every age and over rules Man's Law.

Law of Moses is Ceremonial Law/ Sacrificial system. it's rites pointed to our promised Saviour, Jesus Christ. After sacrificing his life for us, Ceremonial/ Sacrificial system became null and void. It is the purpose of the enemy to lead people to confuse Gods Law/ Moral Law with the Ceremonial Law.

References; Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2: 14-17, Hebrews 9: 8-9

Blessed be in Christ

Tabernacle also as per Old Testament: Exodus 25:8,9, Exodus 26, there is much detail in the Tabernacle GOD had Moses build in several more chapters following Exodus 25, 26, 27, 30

Exodus 30:36, Exodus 33:7, Ezekiel 37:27,

2Corinthians 5:1,4, Hebrews 8:1-13, - Hebrews 9:1-28,

Interesting it also has been referred to as temporary, moveable, place of worship & to meet GOD.

Hopefully this is also helpful

This verse clearly has different interpretations. The simple answer is that eventually; with our new bodies in heaven we will be healed completely physically. Obviously; Christ did heal anyone He chose to during His earthly ministry as He had the Spirit without limit. In one sense; we would have to say that although healing from spiritual death comes upon a believer once he is "sealed with the Spirit" (Ephesians); we are as Romans indicates in a body of death; and only the Lord can rescue us from that totally when He comes. Until then; as Hebrews 9:27 states we are all to die once then face the judgment. (Exception for now with Enoch and Elijah). Healings today; therefore are debated as to whether they are genuine; and certainly if medically they can be proven don't stop the ultimate process of death (as Lazarus no doubt passed on at some point after being raised from the dead). Certainly there are benefits to having our spiritual house in order; as well as having a sound mind; and emotions through the controlling influence of the Holy Spirit. Our sins certainly directly or indirectly contribute to premature aging and destruction. A few cases seem genuine; but again there are some spontaneous healings which seem to occur among nonbelievers. As with any spiritual gifts; God gives it "severally" as Corinthians states; Paul said he would have us to seek all gifts; but even with tongues; he would prefer one clear statement rather than many words; and without interpretations this can be done in a disorderly way which was warned against. God uses who He will; and no one should also name a "healing" ministry after themselves; as though they are a mutually exclusive group who the Lord will use to perform such things. We should keep in mind Christ's eternal scar on His resurrected body that is unique on His hands and feet; as a reminder of what He endured for His own. Surely these will not hurt Him anymore; but shows our deliverance from death and hell.

By not transgressing, he never broke the law, sinned, by obeying God, by being obedient even unto the death of the cross. It's just like fulfilling a contract, you do everything the contract says for you to do.

Hello Henry, please keep reading through Hebrews 10,

Exodus 34, after Moses had interceded for the "Hebrews" Israelites, broken the tablets because of their sin._. Was again with GOD to receive the LAW. If you continue through into Exodus 35, & rest of the books of Exodus, Hebrews 10, should be more clear.

then Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, John 18, John 19, to point to a few.

Hopefully these are helpful.

Christ fulfilled the law in that : he loved God more than he loved his own life , this was expressed when Christ submitted to God's will completely and went willingly to the cross ,and Christ loved us more than he loved himself and offered himself as the perfect sacrifice so that we may be reconciled to our God through his innocent blood .

how did christ forfill the Law

Hi Glenn,

Thanks for your thoughts. On further review, Enoch was a Gentile, so he's probably ruled out as a witness, so we're back to Elijah and Moses. Now regarding Hebrews 9:27 that reads once to die and then the judgement, Dr. Ruckman has pointed out that many have died twice including Lazarus. But you are right, the good Lord knows!

Thank you Brother.

Hello S Spencer,

Thanks for your reply. Someone had suggested that Encoch would not be a candidate because he was a Gentile! Good point I must agree. However, I'm still trying to digest the Hebrews 9:27 passage "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:". But then I read a commentary from Dr. Peter Ruckman who pointed out that many people had died twice. Jarius' daughter, Lazarus, Dorcas, Eutychus and the son of the widow of Nain.

Thanks again for your reply and I will be interested to hear if you have any other thoughts.

God Bless you!

Hi Denise.

Those two along with Moses would be the front runners according to most people, but who knows?

Here's the verse why some say Elijah and Enoch. Hebrews 9:27.

They attach Moses because of the plagues is like the plagues in Egypt.

Mose died in Deuteronomy 34:5.

God bless.