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Pochalla, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and His knowledge.

Let's try with the Spirits working to perceive what the Spirit calls the DAY OF THE LORD.

Amos 5:18-21 Woe unto you that DESIRE THE DAY OF THE LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the Lord is DARKNESS, AND NOT LIGHT.

(20) Shall not the DAY OF THE LORD be darkness and not light? even very dark and no brightness in it?

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned in darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE THE GREAT AND THE TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD COME.

Is this prophecy yet in the future or has it already been fulfilled? Other scriptures and the symbols represented in them provide the answers.

Psalm 89:34-37 .....(36) His (David's) seed (Christ) shall endure forever, and his (Christ) throne as the sun before me. (vs) It (Christ and his throne) shall be established forever as the MOON, AND AS A FAITHFUL WITNESS IN HEAVEN.

Revelation 1:5 And from JESUS CHRIST, who is my FAITHFUL WITNESS IN HEAVEN. The Psalm says the MOON is the faithful witness implying the moon is symbolic of Jesus.

The prophecy says the sun shall be turned into darkness, and the MOON into blood. Has this already happened?

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.

John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there out BLOOD...

THE DAY OF THE LORD is every day and has been going on now for two thousand years.

Christ through the working of the Holy Spirit has been coming (the second time lake a thief in the night to those who look for him).

Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; AND UNTO THEM THAT LOOK FOR HIM SHALL HE APPEAR THE SECOND TIME WITHOUT SIN UNTO SALVATION.

HI Beatrice. Here is some verses to start with, Maybe someone more capable would like to elaborate on this further

Hebrews 9:22. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Leviticus 17:11. For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

The life is in the blood and the wages of sin is death. God don't pardon sin, Jesus came to die in our place because all have sinned. Thats why when John the baptist saw him he said behold the lamb that take away the sins of the world.

In the Old Testament economy, God had ordained that the sacrifice of animals were necessary in regards to man's dealing with sin & God's observance of it. It's not really a matter of God being Holy & a Spirit Being & animals being flesh & blood. It's a case of what was appropriate at that time to deal with sin.

As you know, that all sin is detestable to God & those who commit sin (i.e. all of us), have broken God's Law & Design, & the "wages (payment) of our sin is death" ( Romans 6:23). But God in His great Love didn't want us to perish into Hell (which was created for the Devil & his angels). He wanted us, His creation made in His Likeness, to have every opportunity to be saved from such a place & be with Him forever, worshipping Him.

So when sin reigned in mankind & particularly so in His chosen people, Israel, God in Love, instituted a sacrificial system, whereby through the sacrifice of pure, clean animals, Israel would recognize their sin & the need to make a (temporary) payment for it & by doing so, God would be appeased & not destroy them. So, why use animals, you ask?

Well, Hebrews 9:22 says: "And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission." Since man would have to pay for his sins by dying (i.e. giving up of his life as punishment), God ordered that a pure animal, unstained by sin, could be his substitute in death. That is, by the shedding of an animal's blood, Israel's blood would not be shed (i.e. sent to hell). It's sad for the animal, but it meant that for its life, man's (Israel's) life could be spared. Yet this was only temporary until God brought in His Own Sacrifice that would no longer be a temporary covering & temporary forgiveness, but would be permanent in every way. So, in answer to your question, it would no longer be an 'earthly' sacrifice, but a Heavenly One, coming out of the Being of God as the Son of God, the Perfect Sacrifice sent to redeem both Israel & us back to God forever.

I don't understand why people want to condemn others who believe in God a certain way. We all worship the same God. There is only one true God and only one way to God. Through His Son Jesus Christ. Who was a free gift from our Father to pay for our sins. Having faith and giving yourself to Jesus Christ is the most important thing.

There is only one God our Father. Should we not honor the Son as we honor the Father? Like we're told. Does not Jesus Christ have all the power and authority of the Father? Given to Him by the Father. I myself don't believe Jesus Christ is God the Father but that the Father is in Him and He in the Father. I also believe in the deity of Christ that He was with the Father before He came to earth. Like He says. Can I explain all this? No. That's what I believe and it all came to me through the Holy Bible.

A couple verses showing God the Father is not Jesus Christ:

Matthew 26:39 And He went a little further, and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from Me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

John 8:17-18, 17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

18 I am one that bear witness of Myself, and the Father that sent Me beareth witness of Me.

Hebrews 5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, today have I begotten thee.

Hebrews 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us

( 2 Peter 1:17-18, 17 For He received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to Him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with Him in the holy mount.

Why can't some believe in two, plus the Holy Ghost, which is three in this new covenant? One God.

Cris - in Genesis 1:26 pronoun "us & our" were used, because there were cherubim present. You left out Genesis 1:27 which says this: Notice used of singular pronoun (he & his)= Verse 27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." the reason for the change in pronouns is because God is the only that created man, and all things. The cherubim were there as messengers of God.

In the Old Testament, only Titles were used for God whose name was kept secret.

God, Spirit, LORD, Word, Redeemer of Israel, Holy One of Israel, Adonai, Yahweh, El Shaddai, Creator, Deliverer, Elohim, I AM,

Prophesy of Prophet Isaiah:

Isaiah 7:14 14Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

God is a Spirit - without blood, water, flesh, bones, is invisible to the naked eye. God humbled himself, manifested himself in the flesh a man name Jesus, who suffered, shed blood on the cross to cleanse man from sins, died on the cross, buried then rose from the dead on 3rd day, ascended into heaven, sent the Holy Spirit to indwell in our hearts = gifted us eternal life or salvation.

Jesus is the name above all names, all the titles used in the Old Testament and New Testament belongs to Jesus only. So Jesus is God and God is Jesus - no other God. Those who preach the Trinity are misleading people, preaching a gospel that contradict the true gospel of Jesus during his earthly ministry with his 12 apostles.

In summary = God in creation Old Testament; God manifested as a man name Jesus in New Testament; God as the Holy Spirit in Resurrection - all of these titles only belongs to Jesus.

In the New Testament, these titles were used;

God the Father, Son of God, Son of man, Christ, Holy Spirit, Savior, Messiah, First and Last,

In Hebrews 9:22 - 22And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

I believe this verse speaks about the certain end of all of mankind, i.e. death. That is the appointment we all have to keep except the Lord intervene. And that will be for the Christian, at the appearing of Christ for His Own, a time when they will escape death & be ushered right into the presence of Jesus forever.

Hebrews 9:27 if all men will die once what about those that are called up at the rapture?

I understand that those who have rejected Christ now or died not having heard the Gospel are consigned to hell. And there is no second chance for anybody. Hebrews 9:27, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement". The decision we make in this life is the one & only opportunity we all have. It's a message many don't want to hear - but if we don't tell them, we have sealed their fate.

1 John 3:5: "And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin."

Verses, as the above, or where we read that Jesus has removed our sins, etc. primarily show us that Jesus' coming & shedding of His Blood, was God's basis to be able to forgive us our sins, Hebrews 9:22. Without Jesus' death & resurrection, payment for sin, hence forgiveness of sin, could never be made. So, in "taking away our sins", it's implied that we're forgiven both at the time of our coming to Christ for salvation & in our on-going experience in our Christian walk. The efficacy of His Blood is available to all who come with their sin, confessing to God.

Being born again of the Spirit, doesn't remove the fact that we're still in bodies of flesh, corrupted by sin. The purpose of the Spirit's Work is to reside in the believer & transform his spirit from one given to sin to one given to holy living. Does this make us sinless & unable to sin? Never. The only way that could happen is if God, in the process of transforming our spirits also gave us new bodies untainted by sin, as in the pre-Fall days. While in this "body of death", temptation to sin will always be at our door - we will always be engaged in war between the spirit & the flesh, Galatians 5:16,17. And at times, we will lose the battle, but thanks be to God Who forgives us & gives us victory through His Son. Our only escape from sin's pull on us is through our death or translation.

Daniel, even though this act of killing animals for sacrifices sounds horrible & detestable, it was something that was required by God for His people, Israel. To explain this further:

Ever since mankind was put on the Earth & they chose to do wrong & disobey God, their Creator, they were under the sentence of death; death was both a physical & spiritual death. See Genesis chapter 3 for the account of Adam & Eve & also Ezekiel 18:4: "the soul that sinneth, it shall die." Just as we have to pay the penalty for our wrongs before civil courts, so to the Just God requires that we pay the penalty for our lives of sin & disobedience to Him.

But if God fulfilled His demands, none of us would be alive for long & we would be consigned to Hell for our sins. But this God of Justice is also a God of Love (just as a good parent meets out both love & discipline to the child), & God wanted to give mankind another way to be forgiven & acceptable to Him. So when God had called out a people especially to separate them from the world that was given over to idolatry & wickedness & to put His Name on them, He picked a people out of captivity in Egypt to be His very Own: blessed by Him, God dwelling with them, guiding them & protecting them. But they were still human & still did wrong before God. So God gave them His Laws to abide by & also a sacrificial system whereby whenever they sinned & broke His Laws, a system was in place that would temporarily cover those sins thereby averting God's Anger & Judgement against them. And this involved the sacrifice of various types of animals.

Why the death of animals? Hebrews 9:22 says "without the shedding of blood there is no remission (of sins)". It had to be blood for blood. Rather than the sinner losing his life for his sin, God in love required that a pure, spotless animal would be sacrificed in the sinner's stead. When this was done by the High Priest, God accepted it as a substitutionary payment on behalf of man.

You were taught correctly, Dee: one should not only not pray for the dead, but to do so is pointless & against biblical teaching. Many religions do pray for the dead in the hope that that will assist those souls towards comfort & peace in the after-life. And Roman Catholics particularly believe in this as they also have the teaching of purgatory, where souls reside for a period of time for purification & made acceptability for Heaven. So while souls are being in that state, prayer is offered to God on their behalf.

They cite several Scriptures, and from the apocryphal book Ecclesiasticus, chapter 7:33 we read, "A gift hath grace in the sight of every man living; and for the dead detain it not." And this means, as man gives to the poor (v 32) & weeps & visits the sick (vv 34,35), so to he should give a gift of grace to both the living & the dead (v 33). We can do so while he is alive, but it is wrong to think that a gift of grace (prayer) will be of any use when he is dead.

Rather, Hebrews 9:27 says, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement". Once departing this Earth, there remains no other sacrifice for sins or place of repentance for the unbeliever, only waiting for God's Judgement. That is a sobering thought, but emphasizes the pressing need for man to give full consideration for the condition & destiny of his soul while he is still alive. The teaching that another place of repentance & purification exists, gives man licence to do & live how he wants in this life: and this then dilutes the meaning of the Cross & the urgency of its message.

John 6:66

After this many of his disciples TURNED BACK and no longer walked with him

(Jesus).

HEBREWS 10

How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has spurned the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace?

Hosea 14:4

I will heal their apostasy; I will love them freely, for my anger has turned from them.

Revelation 3:16

So, because you are lukewarm, and NEITHER hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.

2 Timothy 2:18

Who have SWERVED from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already happened. They are upsetting the faith of some.

Book of Jude 1:

For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

Matthew 10:33

But whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.

Hebrews 9:28

So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, NOT TO DEAL WITH SIN, but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

2 Thessalonians 2:3

Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction

Hebrews 3:12

Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God.

Galatians 1:8-9

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I SAY AGAIN, If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you (first) received, let him be accursed.

This is all I know about it:

Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.

But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:

Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? ( Hebrews 9:6-14)

In Genesis 22 :7-8 Isaac askAbraham his father where is the lamb Abraham said my son God will provide HIMSELF A lamb

IN Exodus 12 God gives the times and the orders of the passover lamb (Jesus)

Look at Exodus 12 :2 God starts time over to the beginning this is prophecy if you will perceive it

My interpretation is God StartsTime over here so we would know that when the true final passover lamb Jesus comes Time will start over and it did

And look at the Fulfillment of God will provide HIMSELF a Lamb

John chapter 1 verse 29 Behold the lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world God Brings is on lamb Jesus in to his own house 2chronicles 3:1 on the 10th day of Nissan And Inspected Him ( Luke 6:7)Till the 14th day and judged Him ( John 18:28)by the law and by the religion of the day And Pilate said I FIND NO FAULT IN THE MAN NO BLEMISH NO SIN Luke 23:1-3

And it is still the 14th Till 6 o'clock

And crucified Him Outside of God's house the city Jerusalem at evening 3 clock Exodus 12:6

Matthew 27:37 And set up over His Head His accusation written THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS (God's Name Tag on His LAMB) And ROSE UP 3 days later on the 17th day

Hebrews 9:12 Took His Own BLOOD and Entered in ONCE into The HOLY PLACE (THE THRONE OF GOD) having OBTAINED ETERNAL REDEMPTION for us

John 14:29 (Jesus said) And now I have told you BEFORE IT COMES to pass that WHEN IT IS COME TO PASS YE MIGHT BELIEVE

This may or may not help you it is a point of view that you may have already Studied

May God bless you and your family always

JACKIE

To JOEL OSTEEN

Regarding your views on Water Baptism it cannot save a person. Please read Hebrews 6:1,2. It was one of the rites of of the Jewish Religion ( Numbers 19:7, Hebrews 9:10). Like circumcision, it was strictly an act of faith, and as Peter explains it is an a pledge of good conscience towards God.

For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

Repentance is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21) and learn what 'True Repentance' means, and how this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14; Luke 13:23).

LUKE 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH.

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

The Rapture - the raising of the Church into heaven ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17): is the next event on the prophetic calendar. The Rapture is when Christ comes back and takes every Christian that is still on this earth and resurrects all of those who have died and takes them to heaven with Him. In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-8, Paul expresses that the Lord's return will be like a thief in the night. No one knows the date or time. However, there are several signs of the End Times that we can all be aware of. Events such as earthquakes and diseases, war and dispute among nations, and persecution against Christians are all signs leading to the Rapture.

SCRIPTURES TO LOOK UP:

Matthew chapter 24: 1-46

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 5:2

Revelation 1:7, 3:10

1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

Mark 13:32

John 14:1-3

Luke 21: 34-36; 12:40

Acts 1: 9-11

2 Peter 3:10-13

Hebrews 9:28

Philippians 3:20

Colossians 3:2

Ezekiel 18:4. Revelation 21

Hebrews 9:26

For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world:

but now once in the end of the world hath appeared to put away sin by sacrifice of himself.

Hebrew 9:27

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement.

Hebrews 9:28

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many, and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

The Rapture - the raising of the Church into heaven ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17): is the next event on the prophetic calendar. The Rapture is when Christ comes back and takes every Christian that is still on this earth and resurrects all of those who have died and takes them to heaven with Him. In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-8, Paul expresses that the Lord's return will be like a thief in the night. No one knows the date or time. However, there are several signs of the End Times that we can all be aware of. Events such as earthquakes and diseases, war and dispute among nations, and persecution against Christians are all signs leading to the Rapture.

SCRIPTURES TO LOOK UP:

Matthew chapter 24: 1-46

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 5:2

Revelation 1:7, 3:10

1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

Mark 13:32

John 14:1-3

Luke 21: 34-36; 12:40

Acts 1: 9-11

2 Peter 3:10-13

Hebrews 9:28

Philippians 3:20

Colossians 3:2

Ezekiel 18:4. Revelation 21

Beautiful!

The Bible says much about vows and oaths. I believe you made a promise, which is different as Psalm 76:11 indicates.

Here is this websites commentary on That scripture:

Redeemer.

7-12 God's people are the meek of the earth, the quiet in the land, that suffer wrong, but do none. The righteous God seems to keep silence long, yet, sooner or later, he will make judgment to be heard. We live in an angry, provoking world; we often feel much, and are apt to fear more, from the wrath of man. What will not turn to his praise, shall not be suffered to break out. He can set bounds to the wrath of man, as he does to the raging sea; hitherto it shall come, and no further. Let all submit to God. Our prayers and praises, and especially our hearts, are The Presents we should bring to the Lord. His name is glorious, and he is the proper object of our fear. He shall cut off the spirit of princes; he shall slip it off easily, as we slip off a flower from the stalk, or a bunch of grapes from the vine; so the word signifies. He can dispirit the most daring: since there is no contending with God, it is our wisdom, as it is our duty, to submit to him. Let us seek his favour as our portion, and commit all our concerns to him.

Commentary by Matthew Henry, 1710.

I don't know what you vowed or promised, so I cannot say more. I think you should have a meeting with your Pastor and pray about this. Get this off your chest, so-to-speak.

2Timothy chapter 4 verses 3,4

If it's not found in the scriptures it's a fable . And if the scriptures are not very defined and accurate don't twist them into something it's not saying . With out the Holy Spirits guidance you may very well end up with some corruption of the word of God .

Those that corrupt the word of God are more than those that do not . Even in Apostle Paul's time . So most are false teachers and today we have armies of them .

Read the bible for yourself seek the truth . Amen !

God is faithful unto all Generations. His word endured for ever ! Jesus is Risen and coming again be ready !

Hello, yes, you will be forgiven if you follow Jesus. But under grace we still are accountable for our actions. Jesus asks us to avoid sin. Jesus says in the way we forgive others we will also be forgiven. Read Matthew 18.

If a Christian makes a promise to GOD and does not keep it but continually repents for making that promise will GOD forgive them? The promise was made while in excruciating pain.

The Rapture - the raising of the Church into heaven ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17)-is the next event on the prophetic calendar. The Rapture is when Christ comes back and takes every Christian that is still on this earth and resurrects all of those who have died and takes them to heaven with Him. In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-8, Paul expresses that the Lord's return will be like a thief in the night. No one knows the date or time. However, there are several signs of the End Times that we can all be aware of. Events such as earthquakes and diseases, war and dispute among nations, and persecution against Christians are all signs leading to the Rapture.

SCRIPTURES TO LOOK UP:

Matthew chapter 24. 25: 1-46

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 5:2

Revelation 1:7, 3:10

1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

Mark 13:32

John 14:1-3

Luke 21: 34-36; 12:40

Acts 1: 9-11

2 Peter 3:10

Hebrews 9:28

Philippians 3:20

Colossians 3:2

Ezekiel 18:4

You can use the empty search box on the KJB website: type in 'Antichrist' and it will list other verses you should read.

Write them down so you can share with friends and family, you want to be in heaven with you.

A Pastor just said in a sermon, that watching the DVD named, The Passion: really shows how Christ suffered so we could be saved. God save you. Amen.

Mishael

Is Paul being obtuse with his criticism of Moses, Aaron and the One True God, El Shaddai, who is not divided or dissected , but rather obeyed. He is at once a Gid of mercy and a Gid of retribution. In my mind, Paul mangles what Jesus represented, which is thorough understanding and unrelenting obedience to Torah, which is the Word of God firsthand. Who can u understand Paul as he twists and I think mangles the word with subjective ruminations. The thesis that only adoration of Jesus is sufficient action needed for Salvation. That word is never mentioned in the Torah. It is a Chrisian construct entirely. Meanwhile, in these ladder days, instead of keeping a critical watch on what we are ad human beings, all they need do is smile a meekish smile and cite Jesus's name over and over to feel vindicated from the wellspring of evil in their hearts.

Lora, CONCERNING THE WORD "MYSTERY"

I agree with you, the mystery of God is complex.

I do not agree with you concerning the "mystery of godliness" as it pertains to Scripture you provided, being God Himself. I believe it concerns the Son of God being born of woman ( Isaiah 7:14). Jesus is the One spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:16 and the One promised in Genesis 3:15

I agree with you, Jesus is the way to salvation.

I, however, must disagree with you that God is Jesus and Jesus is God, and again will state that I believe Jesus never came claiming to be His Father.

Jesus came as the personification of the Words of the Father John 1:1-2); and His authority came from the Father; and He lost none of His Father's sheep ( John 17:12)

But Jesus is not the Father.

The word mystery only occurs in the New Testament.

The word "mystery" is the Greek word "musterion" and basically means a "secret."

There is more than one "mystery" spoken of in Scripture.

There is the mystery concerning the DURATION of time of the blindness of Israel ( Isaiah 6:9-10, Romans 11:25).

There is the mystery concerning the kingdom of God which was revealed in parables to the general public, but explained to the 12 Apostles; ( Matthew 13:10-11, 1 Peter 1:10-12)

There is the mystery concerning the fact that "we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed" ( John 11:25-26, 1 Corinthians 15:51, also look at Philippians 3:14, 1 Thessalonians 4:15, Hebrews 9:27)

There is the mystery of iniquity and lawlessness that is connected to MYSTERY BABYLON of Revelation 17:5-7, (look at Daniel 8:23, Daniel 12:4, Matthew 22:4, Acts 2:38, 2 Thessalonians 2:7)

There is the great mystery or secret concerning the Gentiles being co-heirs in the body of Christ, which was only revealed after the second rejection the King and the Kingdom by the Jews in Acts 28:17-31. This is the secret that was kept secret since the world began and what is being spoken of in Romans 16:25-26, Ephesians 3:1-12, and Colossians 1:24-27.

Rev Clayton Biggs, sir, the "rapture" is satan's joke on the unwary Christian. "Rapture" is not Bible doctrine, but from the mouth of a 15 year old lost little girl, Margaret McDonald. Ask yourself, why would God allow his elect 144K to die in the street, and yet rapture every filthy Christian sinner? The sinners who are appointed one mortal death, Hebrews 9:27. Jesus was asked the same question about the 6th trumpet, where are they "taken?", Jesus said Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together. Mathew 17:34-37

Jim,

Yes, Jesus is deserving of praise. You do well to praise Him and realize that He is all you need. I agree that He died for all. There are many places in scripture that show that Christ shed His blood for all and that salvation is offered to all who will receive Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. You quoted Part of John 3:16, but here are a few other verses that agree with what you are saying: 1 Timothy 4:10, 1 John 4:14, 1 John 2:2, John 1:29, John 4:42, Hebrews 10:10, Romans 6:10, Hebrews 9:26, Hebrews 9:12.

So you are correct in saying that Jesus suffered and died for all, but unfortunately not all will receive Him. From what you are saying, I can assume that you've received Christ. Continue to praise Him and always keep Him first in your heart and life. God bless!

Angeline, With respect to keeping the Sabbath, what were the requirements? What is your take on statements that seem to say it doesn't matter if you keep the Sabbath?

Mark 2:27

Then Jesus declared, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Therefore, the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath."

Mark 7:19

because it does not enter his heart, but it goes into the stomach and then is eliminated." (Thus all foods are clean.)

Romans 14:3

For one person has faith to eat all things, while another, who is weak, eats only vegetables. The one who eats everything must not belittle the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted him.

Romans 14:5

One man regards a certain day above the others, while someone else considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes a special day does so to the Lord; he who eats does so to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God.

Romans 14:17

For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.

Galatians 4:10

But now that you know God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you are turning back to those weak and worthless principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing special days and months and seasons and years!

Colossians 2:20

If you have died with Christ to the spiritual forces of the world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its regulations: These will all perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings.



1 Timothy 4:3

They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

Hebrews 9:10

They consist only in food and drink and special washings--external regulations imposed until the time of reform.

Dennis: this is what the scriptures say about REMISSION of sins.

Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Mark 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

Luke 1:77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,

Luke 3:3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;

Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.