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Hi GiGi. Another great & important question from you & btw, thank you, my wife & I had a very enjoyable vacation visiting some of the S. Pacific islands.
My attempt to answer your question, takes me first to its root. And the one Scripture that I believe identifies this is Ephesians 2:8,9.
"For by GRACE are ye saved through FAITH; and that not of yourselves: it is the GIFT of God: Not of WORKS, lest any man should boast."
I see three things at work here:
a. God's Grace. If it wasn't for the Grace of God afforded us, nothing in relation to salvation could ever occur, indeed, could we even continue to exist on Earth without that Grace? As was previously discussed in your other thread (on Mercy & Grace), that only out of God's Holy Character of Love & Mercy for all, can such Love ever be experienced by sinful man. So, first we see that we need a Gracious God ever ready to pour out His Love & ever ready to Forgive (but on His Terms).
b. Of Faith. God knew that man could never generate such faith as to apprehend the glories of God, of Heaven, & of Eternity. Man can, & always had hope of something better than this life, but never knew of it with any certainty. Our fickle faith is limited to what we see & know in our worldview, but to ask us to believe in & apprehend something that is 'impossible to fathom', requires an extra Grace. God has to give us Faith as well as Grace, or else all talk of His Love & Salvation would circumvent our minds. And so Hebrews 11:1 gives us the meaning: this Faith from God to us must be of substance & evident in our hearts & not a wishful hope. If it weren't, then it isn't Faith - Faith brings into reality that which appears unreal.
Matthew 21:21 - Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.
Proverbs 15:29
"The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous."
This completion is by the Spirit dwelling in us.
Hebrews 11:39-40. And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
The law couldn't make one perfect.
Hebrews 7:19.
I believe Christ fulfilling the law, his righteousness imputed to us and the baptism of the Holyspirit is the consummation of all things.
God bless.
Genesis 5:24, Hebrews 11:5, 1Samuel 15:35, Job 10:21,22, Job 34:22, Job 38:17, Revelation 2:7, Luke 23:33-43, Luke 16:19-31, Psalms 6:5, Psalms 48:14, Psalms 49:14, Ecclesiastes 8:8, Isaiah 38:18, Romans 7, 2Corinthians 7:10,
Psalms 56:13, Psalms 89:48, Proverbs 10:2, Proverbs 14:27, Ecclesiastes 9:4,
Psalms 116:15, Proverbs 14:32, Isaiah 9:2, Isaiah 25:8, Hosea 13:14, Luke 18:33, John 8:51, John 5:24, Acts 2:24-27, Romans 5:10-21, Romans 6:2-23, Romans 8, 2Timothy 1:10, 1John 3:14,
Jeremiah 21:8, Ezekiel 18:31,32, 1Corinthians 15:20-58, Revelation 1:18,
Hebrews 2:9-18, Revelation 20, Revelation 21,
Apparently; as verses 8 and 10 indicate; God used his enemies to humble him; which were promised due to him in 2 Samuel 12:9 and following after his downfall with Bathsheeba and causing Uriah to die. These would taunt him for the rest of his days; and also would delay the Temple of the Lord to be built because David's transgressions and whatever was meant by his being a "man of war" ( 1 Chron. 28:3). That could be a veiled reference to causing death to Uriah in war; as well as battles that resulted from enemies that came after him due to his own sin.
God did chasten David as he states in verse 1. David surely was a saint of God; as we see from Hebrews 11:32. His broken and contrite spirit as seen in Psalm 51 allowed him to repent as he did many times; admitting his sin. Hopefully; since all scripture is for instruction ( 2 Timothy 3:16-17) we will avoid certain costly sins in our lives as things are written for examples to us in how to live.
Revelation 6:9,10,11, Revelation 17:14-17, James 5:7,
it appears to me that the final martyr of GOD's beloved, will ignite. Like the other events in the written Word.
Hebrews 1:13, Matthew 24, Mark 13,
As a loving Father, HE appears to be balancing the mercy of HIS will, that none should perish of the people; Matthew 18:14, 2Peter 3:1-18, & mercy for HIS children, Hebrews 11:6-40,
Rejoice evermore. Pray without ceasing. In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. Quench not the Spirit. Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil. And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.
Luke 16:19-31, Matthew 25:31-46, Ezekiel 18:4-32, Luke 20:36-38, Hebrews 9:27-28, James 5:20, 1John 3:14,
John 11:25,26, Romans 8:13, Romans 8, Romans 14:8, 1Corinthians 15:22, 1Corinthians 15,
Revelation 14:12,13, Revelation 2:10,11, Revelation 20:6,13,14, Revelation 21, Revelation 22,
Hebrews 11:5,
Hopefully these are helpful
Hebrews 11:4 says that by faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of, or literally, over his gifts: and by it he being dead yet he speaks.
What is it about Abel's life that continues to speak in witness and in testimony? It's that by faith, he offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain.
Now let me share this to you because there are those who say "Well, he presented a better sacrifice, or more excellent sacrifice because it was an animal, or blood sacrifice, a lamb, vs. Cain's sacrifice which was vegetables from out of his garden."
That's not what the bible says.
As a matter of fact, if you look further back in the law, because there is no law in Genesis Chapter 4, but if you look into the law about God's requirement for sacrifices, it wasn't just animals and blood.
There were herbs. There were meal offerings. So it wasn't that God looked at Abel's and said you got the right kind and Cain doesn't, so we'll reject his and we'll accept yours.
Why was it a more excellent sacrifice?
Because it was given by faith. Abel was governed by the influence of God's Spirit to bring a sacrifice to God.
If you read the account, Cain sees what Abel is doing, and Cain decides he's going to bring an offering too. But his was religious. He wasn't doing it under the inspiration of God's Spirit. His heart wasn't right.
And so when Cain brought his, God rejected it because it was religious and human motivated. Abel showed that he was under the influence of God's Spirit.
God testifying of his gifts: You see, it's by faith. It doesn't make any difference what it is. It's the motive behind it.
Let's use Ephesians 2:11-12 to get the context.
Wherefore remember, that YE BEING IN TIME PAST ""GENTILES"" in the flesh, who are called ""UNCIRCUMCISION"" by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
That at that time YE WERE WITHOUT CHRIST, BEING ALIENS FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Here's a definition in the Greek and how it's used.
Greek:
Transliteration: apallotrio
Pronunciation: ap-al-lot-ree-o'-o
Definition: From G575 and a derivative of G245; to estrange away that is (passively and figuratively) to be non participant: - alienate be alien.
KJV Usage: be alienated with.
Hebrews 11:34 references Israel battles with those alienated from Israel. The Gentiles/Heathen.
"Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, TURNED TO FLIGHT THE ARMIES OF THE ALIENS."
Lamentation 5:2-6.
Here's the aliens in Lamentation.
"Vs 6 We have given the hand to the EGYPTIANS, and to the ASSYRIAN, to be satisfied with bread". They're alienated from Israel.
I hope this helps.
God bless.
39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made complete.
"some better thing" is a vast understatement.
Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day (the day of the Lord: CHRIST IN YOU) on the mount of Olives, which is before (NEW) Jerusalem (Christ in you, the city made of LIVING stones), and the mount of Olives (which is the new Jerusalem) shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west (symbolic); and there shall be a very great valley (symbolic),and half of the mountain (symbolic) shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
This Mountain (symbolic of the people that make up this mountain); half represents the mount of Jacob and half the mount of Esau.
Obadiah 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a FIRE (our God is a consuming FIRE: YOU WILL BE: the image of Christ) and the house of Joseph a Flame ( Luke 16:24), and the house of Esau for stubble; and they SHALL KINDLE IN THEM (as Christ did in you), and devour them, and there shall not be remaining any of the house of ESAU ( Zechariah 14:21); for the Lord hath spoken it.
Obadiah 1:21 And saviours (Christ and those called to be HIS IMAGE) shall come upon mount Zion to JUDGE the mount of Esau; and the kingdom SHALL BE the LORD'S.
The called out; I AM the resurrection, will judge the whole world, the mount of Esau, after the resurrection of the dead.
Isaiah 26:9 ...for when thy judgements are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
Hebrews 11:20 By faith Issac blessed Jacob and Esau CONCERNING THINGS TO COME.
Genesis 27:40 And by thy (Esau's) sword (not God's sword; the word) shalt thy live (and DIE, and at the resurrection of the dead thou shall ) SERVE THY BROTHER; and it shall COME TO PASS (when God's words shall be fulfilled) that thou (also) SHALT HAVE the dominion (the kingdom of God, Christ in you), that thou (through judgement) shall BREAK HIS YOKE from off your neck.
Psalms 22:All the ends of the earth shall REMEMBER ( Luke 16:25 ...Remember) and turn unto the LORD: (when his judgements are in the earth)
Jesse
About resurrection It seems to me there are 3 of them.
1. A pretribulation resurrection during the rapture of the saints to meet Jesus in the air. Are OT sains included? There are two opinions (I dont know which is right). The first opinion says they will be included. Those who believe that use the verse in Hebrews 11:40 "God having provided some better thing for us (the christians), that they without us should not be (the OT saints) made perfect. Others says that only the Bride of Christ, the church, will be caught up. Verses about the Marriage of Christ with His Bride church are used by those who have the second opinion.
2. A resurrection of all those that will not accept the mark of the beast and will be slaughtered during the reign of the antichrist. They will be resurrected just before the second coming of Christ, just before the fight of Armagedon. This is obvious since they will reign on earth together with Jesus for 1000 years.
3.The final resurrection of all the rest of people that died thought the centuaries, just before the Final Judgement.
Now, what is your belief about people to whom Christ was never preached (like muslims, budhists etc)? I believe that they will be judged (and be saved) according to their good life/good works as their conscious says to them. Romans 2:11-16
God Blessings.
Yes, the 144,000 (signified not literal) is the Old Saints.... Mathew 27:52-53
They have already received (I AM the resurrection) the PROMISE (made perfect, Immortality, resurrected INTO the FORM OF CHRIST: Galatians 4:19)
1 Timothy 16:6 Who (Christ) ONLY hath immortality, dwelling in the light .....
Hebrews 11:39 And all these, having obtained a good report through faith (of Christ), received not the promise (to be made perfect).
Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us (we will never see death), that they without us should not be MADE PERFECT (Christ is the ONLY ONE PERFECT).
Luke 46:40 ....but every one that IS PERFECT shall be as his MASTER.
John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they MAY BE PERFECT ......
God Bless YOU.
......Without Faith it is impossible to plz God....Simply b/c without Faith there cannot be a new birth of Christ in us the son of man...The Kingdom....Which is mankinds fruit unto God...That New Born Babe DESIRING THE SINCERE MILK OF THE WORD.. 1ST PETER 2 : 2 KJV....Is the H.G. THE CHILD OF PROMISE...That Christ might be multiplied as the Stars of Heaven.
...... Rev. 12 : 10...After the woman gives birth to the Baby the Child of PROMISE THE H.G....It says that now is come Salvation and the Power of his Christ and the Kingdom of our God....The Woman had FAITH THE SUBSTANCE OF THNGS HOPED FOR THE EVIDENCE OF THING NOT SEEN....The Child which is the H.G. That Child of Promise...As that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit the H.G....That is gonna be born in us who hear his Words....Thats y he has to know us...Thats y Elijah has to come n turn the hearts of fathers to th chidren.
Matthew 1:6 Jesus called Christ, John 4:25, Luke 6:15, John 1:42, John 11:16, not Colossians 4:11,
Romans 2:17, Romans 7:3, same supposed writer as Acts , also Romans 9:26
Matthew 26:14, Luke 23:33, John 19:13, John 19:17, Acts 6:9, Revelation 11:8,
Revelation 12:9,
Luke 2:4, Luke 8:2, John 21:2, different than Acts 9:11,
Acts 1:23, Acts 9:36,
Colossians 3:15, 1John 3:1,
Hopefully these are all helpful in your study
.....Even in the natural when a woman is pregnant she has the substance of things HOPED FOR ( the Baby ) which is the evidence of things NOT SEEN...No body can see what she has, not even her husband....But she knows it b/c her whole biological make up is changing and she can feel the baby moving with in her...@ only 6 weeks there is already a heart beat....Thats US after he sows his good seed in our hearts we have heavenly Faith...We know we are spritual Pregnant...We can feel the Spirit moving within US...My lil Children of whom i travail in birth Again till Christ is formed in you Gal 4 :19...As we have borne the image of the earthly we must also bear ( birth ) the image of the heavenly....We have the evidence of things not seen which is the H.G the Child of Promise.
.....Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....Thats Y he has to know us, thats when his good seed is gona be sown in our hearts and minds....She brought forth a man Child that is gonna rule al nations and her Child was caught up to God and to his throne... Rev. 12 :5....We are the woman and her Child is the result of the sower and his seed...the words of that New covenant....The babes and suckling he mentions ,..Thats y he is saying the Good seed are the CHILDREN OF THE KINGDOM....There is a baby Christ in our future....Thats y he always refers to himself as the SON OF MAN.
.....Blessed are them that follow me in the REGENERATION....a BABY CHRIST...
They were all ashamed of a people that could not profit them, nor be an help nor profit, but a shame, and also a reproach.
2 Samuel 19:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And the people gat them by stealth that day into the city, as people being ashamed steal away when they flee in battle.
Hebrews 2:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
Isaiah 33:9 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
The earth mourneth and languisheth: Lebanon is ashamed and hewn down: Sharon is like a wilderness; and Bashan and Carmel shake off their fruits.
1 John 2:28 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
Micah 3:7 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.
Ezekiel 36:32 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.
Hebrews 11:16 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
Genesis 2:25 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Job 6:20 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
They were confounded because they had hoped; they came thither, and were ashamed.
Isaiah 20:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And they shall be afraid and ashamed of Ethiopia their expectation, and of Egypt their glory.
Romans 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Hebrews 11:6 (But without faith it is impossible to please him): for he that cometh to God (must believe) that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
It appears your backed by scripture
So when the Lord called me into evangelism, I went. I made mistakes, but my heart was pure. I didn't have time to think how people had treated me prior, before I was saved.
Jesus helped me be "one of those people" that you feel you've known many years. Good news carrier with feet lol.
I have happy expectation about heaven. To see family, friends, people I prayed with, and for. I'm still here, so I'm always looking at faces to see that one person who sees the Light of Jesus, on my face. Old age isn't happening. I've got all this hope to give away, before the "door is closed".
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
John 14:1
Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
John 10:38
But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
John 5:47
But if ye believe not his writings, [Bible] how shall ye believe my words?
Love these little verses!!
1 Thessalonians 4:17
(14) For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
(15) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
(16) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
(17) Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
2 Thessalonians 2:7
4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5) Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6) And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10)And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Also what do you mean by "differently" ?
If, and if you think the church the body of Christ is what's Paul talking about thinking again .. also see this verse
Hebrews 11:22
"By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones."
My God bless
GOD's WORD says seek & you shall find, knock & it shall be opened, Matthew 7:7, Luke 11:9, Luke 1:37, Luke 18:27, Mark 10:27,
Ask & you shall receive, say with your mouth believe with your heart & it will happen. Mark 9:23, John 16:23,24, John 14:13,14, John 15:16,
Mark 11:22-26,
That doesn't just apply to believers GOD even gives people over Romans 1:18-32,
Matthew 17:20, Hebrews 11:6,
Mark 14:36,
James 4:3,
James 4,
Please stay within scripture, write it upon your heart. Proverbs 7:1-3, Deuteronomy 11:18, Proverbs 3:3,
Mark 7:9, Mark 7:13, Colossians 2:8,
Hopefully these are helpful & insightful
Ruth preached before the town council
Hebrews 11:31, book of heroes
By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace [hid them]
Esther saved all the Jews 8:18
Lois and Eunice. 2 Timothy 3:14-15
Acts 18:26 - And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
Acts 2:17-18 - And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your DAUGHTERS shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: (Read More...)
Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Judges 4:4-5 - And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time. (Read More...)
Romans 16:1-2 - I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea: (Read More...)
Philippians 4:3 - And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellow laborers, whose names are in the book of life.
2 Corinthians 6:3-5
Hebrews 11:39 And all these (Old Testament saints), having a good report through faith, received not the PROMISE:
The Promise is eternal life (CHRIST IN YOU) and that was not available to man until Pentecost.
The Old saints were waiting in the grave for the resurrection.
Christ is the resurrection.
Hebrews 11:40 God having provided something better for us (DEATH passes over us, and ETERNAL LIFE LIVES IN US), that they without us should not be made perfect (the image of Christ).
The Old saints as well as any that have left this body of flesh, are now in the Holy City, new Jerusalem, made without hands; because they are spirits of just men made perfect.
Hebrew 1:14 Are they not ministering spirits (the image of Christ) sent forth to minister for them who shall be HEIRS OF SALVATION.
God Bless You!